Editing Talk:Falco (SSB4)

Should I mention that one of the pictures on his page on the website is a reference to Momotaro? --[[User:Bob8644|Bob8644]] ([[User talk:Bob8644|talk]]) 13:24, 13 October 2014 (EDT)


== "The following appears to be unchanged" ==
Shouldn't we specify that "the following appears to unchanged" since ''Brawl''? Because Falco was a much different character in Melee. [[File:SSB Symbol (flat).png|18px]] <span style="font-family: Segoe WP; font-size: 10pt; font-weight: bold"> [[User:Davidvkimball|<font color="black">davidvkimball</font>]]</span> 16:48, 11 September 2014 (EDT)
:Because this page does the changes from Brawl to SSB4, I think that's kind of implied. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 11:22, 14 October 2014 (EDT)
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" Falco was nerfed from Brawl to Smash 4, with his lasers and some of his movement and KO options being made much less useful. '''Although he did receive some buffs, they do not properly compensate for the nerfs.''' " - - - Is the bolded line really necessary? It really seems like a matter of opinion to me. I'm loving Falco in this one more than in Brawl, personally. I know I'm alone, but it really is a matter of opinion and not of fact. --[[User:Bakester14|Bakester14]] ([[User talk:Bakester14|talk]]) 17:41, 8 November 2014 (EST)
:I agree, it seems opinion-y. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:Nutta Butta|Nutta.]] </small> 17:43, 8 November 2014 (EST)
::It's not really opinionated to me. It's just saying that, while he does have buffs, his nerfs don't cancel them out. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 23:19, 8 November 2014 (EST)
:::Assuming the game does not get patched frequently, the competitive potential of a character is an objective quality, not a subjective one. With that in mind, most competitive players will agree that Falco is trash. The bulk of his neutral game in previous games consisted of using lasers to make his approaches safe. Now that his lasers have landing lag, he can no longer do this. As such he has a very weak neutral game, given the fact that his moves have very punishable endlag and he lacks Fox's movement. Now unless any of you can prove me wrong, I suggest we revert the summary describing Falco's nerfs to the previous one, or letting me write a paragraph that accurately describes how terrible Falco became.--<span style="background-color:#6d84e1;border:3px solid silver">[[User:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:silver">'''Brian'''</span>]]<sup>[[User talk:1337 B33FC4K3|<span style="color:black">Don't try me!</span>]]</sup>[[File:Falco.gif|link=|27px]]</span> 23:51, 8 November 2014 (EST)
::::What I don't get is why people think updates/patches bring buffs/nerfs to characters. People on Smashboards already proved that rumor wrong.

::::But yes, that does need a rewrite. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Gamer'''</span>]] 23:53, 8 November 2014 (EST)

:::I think we should retain short summaries (for all characters) for now. Longer ones can come after the metagame's developed for several months - sure, major changes are unlikely, but then everything's at least somewhat even. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Sphere 23:58, 8 November 2014 (EST)

== Landmaster ==

*{{nerf|[[Landmaster]] is less powerful.}}
Can someone please remove this nerf from this page and Fox's page?, i mean, Final Smashes are banned from tournaments so it don't affect his moveset. [[User:YoshiKong|YoshiKong]] ([[User talk:YoshiKong|talk]]) 12:59, 4 December 2014 (EST)
:Just because it's not in tournaments doesn't mean it's not a change. {{s|user|PikaSamus}} ([[User talk:PikaSamus|talk]]) [[File:PikaSamusSig.png|12px|link=Special:Contributions/PikaSamus|PikaSamus]] 13:06, 4 December 2014 (EST)

== Is Falco Phantasm now OP? ==

Falco has a new edgeguarding weapon on Falco Phantasm: as it no longer leaves Falco helpless, when he grabs the edge and lets go without fast-falling, he can use it to edgeguard opponents if they are low enough. Too bad for Little Mac.

Should this be mentioned in his page?--[[User:BeepYou|BeepYou]] ([[User talk:BeepYou|talk]]) 18:50, 23 April 2015 (EDT)

== Let's use the template, please? ==

What does this mean on the moveset section? What template? [[Special:Contributions/76.168.47.247|76.168.47.247]] 18:26, 6 May 2015 (EDT)
:{{t|MovesetTable}}, see [[Luigi (SSB4)]] for a sample implementation. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 18:48, 6 May 2015 (EDT)

== Tier drop? ==

What were the two biggest tier drops? [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the fluffy 07:11, 16 February 2016 (EST)
:<nowiki>#2 is Dedede,</nowiki> #1 is Marth. [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Brown">'''Drill Blaster'''</font> <font color="Pink">'''Mark'''</font> <font color="Silver">'''2'''</font>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Purple">(talk)</font>]]'' 08:13, 16 February 2016 (EST)

==Is it worth mentioning this:==
That Falco is considered non-viable, given he's just one spot above Dr. Mario? —[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 16:13, 7 May 2017 (EDT)

==Tier list==

I can't believe Falco is 50th. [[User:MarthandLucina|MarthandLucina]] ([[User talk:MarthandLucina|talk]]) 01:01, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
:*ahem*, [[SW:TALK]]. If you persist, you're going to be met with a temporary block. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 01:06, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
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	I can't believe Falco is 50th. [[User:MarthandLucina\|MarthandLucina]] ([[User talk:MarthandLucina\|talk]]) 01:01, 4 July 2017 (EDT)		I can't believe Falco is 50th. [[User:MarthandLucina\|MarthandLucina]] ([[User talk:MarthandLucina\|talk]]) 01:01, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
	:~~<nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>~~ahem, [[SW:TALK]]. If you persist, you're going to be met with a temporary block. [[User:Disaster Flare\|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png\|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare\|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 01:06, 4 July 2017 (EDT)		:ahem, [[SW:TALK]]. If you persist, you're going to be met with a temporary block. [[User:Disaster Flare\|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png\|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare\|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 01:06, 4 July 2017 (EDT)
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