Editing Talk:Edge slipping

A bit of an unorthodox technique, but it gets the job done. Trust me. Also, do you know how humiliating it is to have this done to you, falling slowly and clumsily and landing face first? I don't think it can be teched, either. [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] ([[User talk:Runer5h|talk]]) 21:24, 11 December 2008 (UTC)Runer5h

Oh, and it's in 3rd person now. Should have realized that earlier. [[User:Runer5h|Runer5h]] ([[User talk:Runer5h|talk]]) 03:34, 10 January 2009 (UTC)Runer5h

==Legitimacy==
This article been around for while but is this a legitimate and notable technique and if so, is this the term use to describe it? While the technique looks legitimate to me (I have seen it work before), I never heard about it outside this article, causing me to question its notability. If this technique is notable, is Defenestration the term to describe it? If not, the article's name needs to be changed to the commonly used term. When I asked Mako Shark about this, she too has never heard the term used before and she linked me to a SWF thread asking if people have heard of Defenestration before. The thread had only three posts and overall seemed to be inconclusive. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 18:44, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
:While it might be inconclusive to say that it is called this, there is also no other commonly accepted name for it, so I think we just stay with what it has been called for two years.  [[User:Clarinet Hawk|Clarinet Hawk]] <small>([[User talk:Clarinet Hawk|talk]] · [[Special:Contributions/Clarinet Hawk|contributions]])</small> 18:55, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
::So is this technique actually notable? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 19:00, July 3, 2010 (UTC)
:::The actual meaning of the word defenestrate is "the action of throwing someone or something out of a window". If it's legit, it needs a more suitable name, since I've searched and no one uses this term. "Guard break" was coined here but it makes sense, "defenestrate" doesn't. [[User:Mako Shark|Mako Shark]] ([[User talk:Mako Shark|talk]]) 19:19, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

==Name/Purpose of page==
I think we should turn this page from a description of the technique into a description of the piece of game physics which involves behing hit off platforms while shielding. As such, we should come up with a better name. How about "shield slipping"? [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Inconceivable 11:29, 21 May 2011 (EDT)
:Personally I like the name "Defenestration" I am against the name change.--[[User:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|<span style="color: green;">'''Shaun's Wiji Dodo'''</span>]] [[User talk:Shaun's Wiji Dodo|''<span style="color: green;">talk</span>'']] [[File:Untitled-1_copy.gif ]] 11:49, 21 May 2011 (EDT)
::I think we should name it "[http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lyFtJDxsqMs&feature=related edge slip]". And it should contain both a description of the technique and the physics behind it. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 12:10, 21 May 2011 (EDT)
:::I was thinking about the name "edge slip", but I thought that the word "shield" should probably be in there somewhere, hence why I suggested "shield slip". [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Awesome 21:59, 21 May 2011 (EDT)
::::Yes, I see the reason for that name as shielding is usually involved, but this describes the event when someone slips off an edge, making "edge slip" more intuitive. And shielding isn't always required for someone to slip off an edge, an attack that produces too weak of knockback to knock someone into the air, but make them slide, can cause someone to slip off an edge with the same mechanics ([http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JD7EfzbW6t8 Wolf's bair] for example, can do this at low percentages without the opponent shielding). Also, as the previously linked video shown, "Edge slip" is a known term among the Smash community. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 04:36, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
:::::Or edge shield(ing) slip?--<span style="font-family:Arial">[[User:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:gray">Wolf</span>]] [[User talk:Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:blue">rulez!</span>]] </span>[[File:WolfHeadSSBB.png|19px]] '''[[Special:Contributions/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:green">The</span>]]''' '''[[Special:Editcount/Wolf rulez!|<span style="color:red">best!</span>]]''' 07:39, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
::::::As I pointed out, shielding isn't always necessary for this phenomenon to occur, so having "shield" in the name of the article isn't needed. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:54, 22 May 2011 (EDT)
OK wait I think I understand this. If you shield a powerful attack (but without powershielding), then you will be knocked back a certain distance, right? Using this to knock an opponent off a platform is a legitimate technique that I've had used on me. [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:13, 21 May 2011 (EDT)

Hello, I know this is an old page but I think it's very fascinating and could use some updates. I agree this tech should have a name change as I've never heard of it being referred to as edge slipping before but I see that GimR seemed to have coined it. The problem is that GimR and other Smash Ultimate labbers have developed a tech with a similar name, "ledge slipping" and some members such as CoachDKPill have even argued that it should just be called "Edge Slipping" because it applies to platform edges as well. PewPewU has also recently referred to the original "edge slipping" as "shield pushoff" or "shield slide off" and describes the difference between sliding off while facing forward and backwards. Both seem to be more accurate and up to date names that would do away with the confusion relating the new Ultimate tech, which I also think should get its own separate page. [[User:Syzr|Syzr]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon|talk]]) 12:00, 28 September 2023 (PST)
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	Hello, I know this is an old page but I think it's very fascinating and could use some updates. I agree this tech should have a name change as I've never heard of it being referred to as edge slipping before but I see that GimR seemed to have coined it. The problem is that GimR and other Smash Ultimate labbers have developed a tech with a similar name, "ledge slipping" and some members such as CoachDKPill have even argued that it should just be called "Edge Slipping" because it applies to platform edges as well. PewPewU has also recently referred to the original "edge slipping" as "shield pushoff" or "shield slide off" and describes the difference between sliding off while facing forward and backwards. Both seem to be more accurate and up to date names that would do away with the confusion relating the new Ultimate tech, which I also think should get its own separate page. [[User:Syzr\|Syzr]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon\|talk]]) 12:00, 28 September 2023 (PST)		Hello, I know this is an old page but I think it's very fascinating and could use some updates. I agree this tech should have a name change as I've never heard of it being referred to as edge slipping before but I see that GimR seemed to have coined it. The problem is that GimR and other Smash Ultimate labbers have developed a tech with a similar name, "ledge slipping" and some members such as CoachDKPill have even argued that it should just be called "Edge Slipping" because it applies to platform edges as well. PewPewU has also recently referred to the original "edge slipping" as "shield pushoff" or "shield slide off" and describes the difference between sliding off while facing forward and backwards. Both seem to be more accurate and up to date names that would do away with the confusion relating the new Ultimate tech, which I also think should get its own separate page. [[User:Syzr\|Syzr]] ([[User talk:Mr. Anon\|talk]]) 12:00, 28 September 2023 (PST)
	:If they're separate mechanics then they should have their own pages. Unfortunately since the names are very similar it might be best to have a separate page with a title like "Ledge slipping (SSBU)" or something similar to differentiate - so feel free to create a new article if you'd like (or alternatively, we can add a new section for Ultimate at the end of the page, and then discuss splitting/renaming to the best title later). One last thing, to sign your comments on talk pages you just have to type four tildes <nowiki>~~~~</nowiki>, it will automatically format the date and time for you. '''[[User:Ac2k\|<span style="color: red;">Awesome</span>]] [[User talk:Ac2k\|<span style="color: red;">Cardinal 2000</span>]]''' 16:09, September 28, 2023 (EDT)
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