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| ==The Gender Trivia== | | ==The Gender Trivia== |
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| *While Corrin is traditionally depicted as female by default in non-Smash Brothers appearances such as in ''Fire Emblem Warriors'', the advertising for ''Fire Emblem Heroes'', and the official trading card game ''Fire Emblem Cipher''; Corrin is depicted as male by default in both ''Super Smash Brothers. 4'' and''Super Smash Brothers. Ultimate''. | | *While Corrin is traditionally depicted as female by default in non-Smash Brothers appearances such as in ''Fire Emblem Warriors'', Corrin is depicted as male by default in both ''Super Smash Brothers. 4'' ''Super Smash Brothers. Ultimate''. |
| I find this trivia somewhat trivial, since only Warriors is the only game that predominantly features female Corrin. For Heroes, I find it much too ambiguous to actually state which one's official because for all events involving them there's always male and female Corrin as Focus. In my honest opinion, I believe we should just leave this trivia off until more games with Corrin is released. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 15:17, 12 January 2019 (EST) | | I find this trivia somewhat trivial, since only Warriors is the only game that predominantly features female Corrin. For Heroes, I find it much too ambiguous to actually state which one's official because for all events involving them there's always male and female Corrin as Focus. In my honest opinion, I believe we should just leave this trivia off until more games with Corrin is released. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 15:17, 12 January 2019 (EST) |
| :Agreed, and Fates itself shows them in equal measure. – [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 17:02, 12 January 2019 (EST) | | :Agreed, and Fates itself shows them in equal measure. – [[User:Emmett|<span style="color:#000000">Emmett</span>]] 17:02, 12 January 2019 (EST) |
| ::While Fates does show them equally, Corrin’s only fully been in 2 other non-smash games. Warriors clearly shows her off as predominantly female. Heroes is a bit more debatable. However, not only did she receive an alternate unit before Male Corrin, she was also goven for free to certain Android players. Additionally, while both genders received an alt for the “Adrift” banner, the icon for the “Adrift” paralogue features Female Corrin and Camilla instead of both Corrins. I’d say Heroes features her predominantly female as well. I’d say keep the trivia <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:184.181.102.188|184.181.102.188]] ([[User talk:184.181.102.188|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/184.181.102.188|contribs]]) 18:54, January 12, 2019</small>
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| :::For the Android point, if I remember that was just a gift for those people who got the game for Android during a certain period (which is how I got mine); I don't really see that as a strong point either. As for when they were released, both were released at launch. As for the Warriors point, looking into it I believe that Corrin is female in the main part of the game simply because the Awakening Avatar Robin is male, while both opposite genders are seen in some "History mode". I don't really think FE actually created an "official" Robin or "official" Corrin simply because both are "Robin" and "Corrin". [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 19:06, 12 January 2019 (EST)
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| :::Sorry about the release thing. Of course both of the default Male and Female Corrins were released simultaneously. However, Summer Corrin (Female Corrin’s first alternate) was released before New Years Corrin (Male Corrin’s first alternate). As for the Robin point I’d actually say that every game predominantly features the male version more than the female version. While Summer Female Robin did come before Christmas Male Robin in Heroes, Nintendo didn’t even allow players to obtain female Robin until a month after the game released, and only in a special event where you could only obtain multiple copies [[Special:Contributions/99.203.11.147|99.203.11.147]] 19:34, 12 January 2019 (EST)
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| ::::I still don't see how female Corrin's first alternative releasing before male Corrin's first alternative automatically states that Corrin's default gender is female. As I said before, I feel like there really isn't a set gender for both characters since both genders are supposed to represent Robin and/or Corrin, it just so happens to be that male versions of each character were announced before opposite genders for the avatars were revealed (or, so I remember). [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 19:57, 12 January 2019 (EST)
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| :::::Although female Corrin is more popular, with me using the female alt. We need it to be the default gender, like we have with Robin. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:Corrin Fan|Corrin Fan]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 20:05, 12 January 2019 (EST)
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| Your statement is completely out of the point of this discussion. We aren't discussing the popularity of one or the other, we are asking which is the actual official default gender in promotional and actual game content. Please don't put personal opinion or fan popularity into this equation. [[User:Mexi|Mexi]] ([[User talk:Mexi|talk]]) 21:07, 12 January 2019 (EST)
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| :If this is directed towards me, I may have gotten carried away. Nevertheless, I've already stated that there is no official word on the official gender of Corrin. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 22:25, 12 January 2019 (EST)
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| ::You’re right that there is no official word. However, as I was looking at the Fire Emblem Direct in 2017 (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Eq1Xzycyp2E) out of nostalgia, I found an interesting detail when they announced the Choose Your Legends event. When listing characters, they specifically listed the female corrin. I’m not sure how much this means, but it does seem like to me that Nintendo is pushing female Corrin as the default everywhere but smash. [[Special:Contributions/184.181.102.188|184.181.102.188]] 01:15, 13 January 2019 (EST)
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| :::(I was directing it to Corrin fan because I didn't want the discussion to be swayed due to opinion, no worries) [[User:Mexi|Mexi]] ([[User talk:Mexi|talk]]) 02:53, 13 January 2019 (EST)
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| As IP has asked for a consensus, here's the result so far:<br>
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| '''Support''': IPs (again, they may be the same but idk)<br>
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| '''Oppose''': Me, Emmett<br>
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| '''Not too sure''': Mexi, Corrin Fan<br>
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| I don't really see a consensus so far, so I guess this trivia will have to stay put for now. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 18:12, 15 January 2019 (EST)
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| :I re-added it in after looking through Corrin in Fire Emblem spin-offs, though with a few modifications. There’s a Fire Emblem Trading Card Game. Female Corrin has 22 cards with unique artwork as opposed to Male Corrin’s 13. If anybody wants evidence for both sides, here they are:
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| :*Evidence for Female Corrin being treated as the default outside of Smash: Fire Emblem Warriors only has the Female participate uses her as the default, the icon for Heroes’s “Adrift” paralogue features Female Corrin and Camilla instead of Male Corrin, the end of the 2017 FE Direct used Female Corrin when listing several characters people could vote for in Choose Your Legends, Female Corrin was the only Corrin with a Heroes alt for 6 months, and Female Corrin has almost double the amount of unique trading cards.
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| :*Evidence against Gemale Corrin being default putside of Smash: Fates features both equally, the second and third pieces of support evidence are extremely minor, Male Corrin eventually had the same amount of alts, and nobody really cares about the Fire Emblem TCG
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| :To be honest, I’d sy that Female Corrin is definitely treated as the default outside of smash. [[Special:Contributions/184.181.102.188|184.181.102.188]] 18:27, 15 January 2019 (EST)
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| I think female Corrin is pretty. Do you? [[User:CBFan6|CBFan6]] ([[User talk:CBFan6|talk]]) 19:56, April 30, 2019 (EDT)
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| == About Corrin... ==
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| So, guys. Is Corrin the only reason why people stopped playing Smash 4? [[User:SafariKid2|SafariKid2]] ([[User talk:SafariKid2|talk]]) 16:38, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Regardless of whether this statement is true or false, [[SW:TALK#Opinion|this isn't really the proper usage of a talk page]]. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 16:40, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::This isn't my opinion, but should I just get rid of it? [[User:SafariKid2|SafariKid2]] ([[User talk:SafariKid2|talk]]) 20:00, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| :::[[SW:TALK#Editing and removing comments|You can't remove talk page posts]]. And to answer your first question, absolutely not. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:04, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::::What I meant was, should it be archived? I mean, sure people kept playing Smash 4 despite Corrin's reveal, but still. [[User:SafariKid2|SafariKid2]] ([[User talk:SafariKid2|talk]]) 20:12, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| :::::Pages don't get archived until they reach more than 36,000 bytes. Archiving a page to cut off a discussion is also prohibited. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]][[Special:Contributions/OmegaToad64|<font color="red">64</font>]]''' 20:10, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| ::::::Sorry! What SHOULD we do with it??? [[User:SafariKid2|SafariKid2]] ([[User talk:SafariKid2|talk]]) 20:12, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| :::::::Just leave it alone. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="dodgerblue">Omegα</font>]][[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="mediumseagreen">Toαd</font>]][[Special:Contributions/OmegaToad64|<font color="red">64</font>]]''' 20:15, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| (reset indent) "''I mean, sure people kept playing Smash 4 despite Corrin's reveal"<br>
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| Actually, almost everyone continued to play Smash 4 after Corrin's reveal, which was in 2015. Most people who ended up quitting did so mid-2018 when ''Ultimate'' was on the horizon. Whatever the case is, don't add this to the page as it falls under speculation. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 20:16, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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| :Fine... [[User:SafariKid2|SafariKid2]] ([[User talk:SafariKid2|talk]]) 20:20, June 20, 2020 (EDT)
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