Editing Talk:Charmander

== Infobox ==
Is there a particular reason this article doesn't have an infobox? ☆<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:green">The</span>]] [[User talk:Solar Dragon|<span style="color:red">Solar</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/Solar Dragon|<span style="color:blue">Dragon</span>]]</span>☆ 16:51, 13 September 2011 (EDT)
:Only Pokemon who appear from Poke Balls have those. This is a stage element in one game and a trophy in another. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 17:32, 13 September 2011 (EDT)
== Should this page exist?==
Is there any reason for this Pokémon to have a page? Porygon doesn't, but they have the same in-game appearances (Pokémon in Saffron City) and trophies don't qualify them for a page. [[User:AmoongussForLife|<span style="color:green">AmoongussForLife</span>]] [[File:AmoongussForLife's_signature.png]][[User_talk:AmoongussForLife|<span style="color:purple">Talk</span>]] 20:44, 6 December 2015 (EST)
:The page shouldn't be deleted just because it only has trophy and spirit information, it should instead be redirected to its proper pages IMO. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 20:36, 19 November 2018 (EST)
:Also, seeing what was established [https://www.ssbwiki.com/Talk:Porygon here], I think the page should just stay how it is. [[User:SugarCookie420|SugarCookie420]] ([[User talk:SugarCookie420|talk]]) 20:38, 19 November 2018 (EST)
::I think we should reformat the disambiguations of minor characters into full character pages. While characters who only appeared as a trophy/sticker/spirit for one game like [[Rayman]] should redirect to their respective list, characters who have made enough cameos for a disambiguation page, such as [[Amy Rose]]  should have their own articles like Charmander and Porygon. I mean look, the [[Silver (disambiguation)]] page has a link to [[Silver the Hedgehog]] which is another disambiguation page. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 18:06, 20 November 2018 (EST)
:::I think characters like Charmander ''should'' have a page if they have appeared only as a Stage Hazard. Some characters have only appeared as just a trophy, but some characters like [[Tetra]] has a page most likely because they appeared as a trophy (or sticker in ''Brawl'''s case) has appeared in more than one installment. [[Unown]] appears as both in ''Melee''. I know background characters, like Wailord, only appear as a trophy and do not have a page. I was surprised that [[Pauline]] does not have one yet as she seems to be intractable in the [[New Donk City]] stage. I would say [[Silver the Hedgehog (disambiguation)|Silver]] should have a page as he at least had a trophy in more than one installment (like [[Tetra]]), and appears as a background character in more than one installment.

:::At the every least, I feel that Hazard characters should get a page. I also think characters that appear in more than one form across more than one installment shorld also get a page. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:30, 20 November 2018 (EST)
:::Here is another thing we should keep in mind, the Smash [[SmashWiki:Deletion_policy|Deletion Policy]]. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:32, 20 November 2018 (EST)
::::Tetra and Unown have a page for different reasons, because Unown is actually a Poké Ball summon in Melee, and Tetra is a Smash Tour item in Smash 4. A character gets a page when they have a significant role in the game; a background character is not a significant role. Actually affecting the match is a different thing.

::::That said, saying those words contradicts my argument for deletion, since we have pages for characters [[Odin|who]] [[Bahamut|follow]] [[Ifrit|those]] [[Ramuh|same]] [[Leviathan|rules]]. So maybe this doesn't need deletion. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:40, 20 November 2018 (EST)
:::::Then in the case of [[Charmander]] and [[Porygon]], ''should'' keep their pages? [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:49, 20 November 2018 (EST)
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 ::::That said, saying those words contradicts my argument for deletion, since we have pages for characters [[Odin|who]] [[Bahamut|follow]] [[Ifrit|those]] [[Ramuh|same]] [[Leviathan|rules]]. So maybe this doesn't need deletion. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:40, 20 November 2018 (EST)
 :::::Then in the case of [[Charmander]] and [[Porygon]], ''should'' keep their pages? [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 18:49, 20 November 2018 (EST)
-::::::That is what I'm saying, yes. I'm going to remove their deletion tags. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: red;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange;">'''the Thankful Rurouni'''</span>]] 18:50, 20 November 2018 (EST)
-::I had just started a discussion on [[:Category talk:Disambiguation]] for characters who are similar cases to Charmander but are disambiguations. It always bothered me how specific characters are disambiguations, and with Charmander, Porygon, Lapras, and the Smash Tour items each having full pages, I think those other pages would be better having full pages. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 23:05, 20 November 2018 (EST)
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