Editing Talk:Boomerang

About the glitch, does anyone know if the hitbox is constant or is it just stuck there as a model and does nothing? <span style="color:green">[[User:Chocolatepie|Chocolate]]</span><span style="color:gold">[[User talk:Chocolatepie|Pie]]</span><sup>[[Special:Contributions/Chocolatepie|is tasty!]]</sup> 16:11, 13 June 2009 (UTC)

== Split ==

Could go either way, honestly. Unlike Hammer and Hammer Flip, this move is shared across three different characters as "Boomerang," and Gale Boomerang has enough written about it that it can stand on its own. I'm leaning towards '''support'''. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:09, 26 April 2016 (EDT)
:'''Weak support''' per MuteSpittah. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 11:25, 26 April 2016 (EDT)
::'''Support'''. The Gale Boomerang does have a functional difference from the other characters' Boomerangs, so it should have its own separate article. [[User:CpnFlacon|CpnFlacon]] ([[User talk:CpnFlacon|talk]]) 10:04, 27 April 2016 (EDT)

I don't necessarily oppose, but I am a little iffy on this one. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 04:09, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

'''Support'''. Like the Blaster and Reflector situations, this is an attack that is essentially similar but has enough special properties and a different name. I think that warrants a move. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 14:21, 28 April 2016 (EDT)

After thinking it over, I '''oppose''' on grounds that I think this split will be a real mess. Let me lay it out: We have a move that has been used by a character (Link) for 2 games, plus a clone (YL) in one of those 2 games. Then, come Brawl, Link's 'rang gets replaced with the gale, and we get a ''new'' clone with the original move, which also caries over into 4. So essentially, we are dealing with 4 different moves here: Link's Boomerang (SSB, SSBM), Young Link's Boomerang (SSBM), Toon Link's Boomerang (SSBB, SSB4), and Link's Gale Boomerang (SSBB, SSB4). Where do we make the split and what goes where? I think we are honestly better off leaving it as is. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:46, 28 April 2016 (EDT)
:'''Oppose''' per Serpent. This would be an even messier job than the other splits we've done recently. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:50, 28 April 2016 (EDT)
::The split would be obvious: Gale Boomerang from the rest of the Boomerangs. Idk I think they can both stand on their own, there's enough written about both.  Any "messiness" would be because it's Link's special in two games, but that is easily remedied by "Boomerang is a special move used by Link in ''Super Smash Bros.'' and ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', Young Link, and Toonk Link." [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 06:35, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
:::Per MuteSpittah. I could probably put together a draft for this today, if you'd like to see how it plays out. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 07:46, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
'''Strong Support'''  [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 20:03, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
::::Wait wait wait. So we are going to split this 1:3? That makes no sense. Also I argue that ''"Boomerang is a special move used by Link in ''Super Smash Bros.'' and ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', Young Link, and Toonk Link."'' is, infact, messy as hell. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:15, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
:::::Oh and while I'm at it, the regular Boomerang is a custom for Link in 4, making the above statement inaccurate. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:21, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
It's 4:2 in favor of splitting. But I '''oppose''' per Mars and The D. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 20:23, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
:Nono 1:3 in terms of moves per page (Boomerang would have 3 different moves while Gale Boomerang has only 1). <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:29, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
::Oh, oops. [[User:Penro|<font color="black">'''Pen'''</font>]][[User:Penro|<font color="blue">'''ro''']] <small><font color="purple">[[User talk:Penro|('''Talk''')]]</font></small> 20:36, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
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 == Split ==
-Could go either way, honestly. Unlike Hammer and Hammer Flip, this move is shared across three different characters as "Boomerang," and Gale Boomerang has enough written about it that it can stand on its own. <s>I'm leaning towards '''support'''</s>. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:09, 26 April 2016 (EDT)
+Could go either way, honestly. Unlike Hammer and Hammer Flip, this move is shared across three different characters as "Boomerang," and Gale Boomerang has enough written about it that it can stand on its own. I'm leaning towards '''support'''. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 03:09, 26 April 2016 (EDT)
 :'''Weak support''' per MuteSpittah. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 11:25, 26 April 2016 (EDT)
 ::'''Support'''. The Gale Boomerang does have a functional difference from the other characters' Boomerangs, so it should have its own separate article. [[User:CpnFlacon|CpnFlacon]] ([[User talk:CpnFlacon|talk]]) 10:04, 27 April 2016 (EDT)
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 It's 4:2 in favor of splitting. But I '''oppose''' per Mars and The D. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 20:23, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
 :Nono 1:3 in terms of moves per page (Boomerang would have 3 different moves while Gale Boomerang has only 1). <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:29, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
-::Oh, oops. [[User:Penro|<font color="black">'''Pen'''</font>]][[User:Penro|<font color="blue">'''ro'''</font>]] <small><font color="purple">[[User talk:Penro|('''Talk''')]]</font></small> 20:37, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
+::Oh, oops. [[User:Penro|<font color="black">'''Pen'''</font>]][[User:Penro|<font color="blue">'''ro''']] <small><font color="purple">[[User talk:Penro|('''Talk''')]]</font></small> 20:36, 29 April 2016 (EDT)
-:Lol, chill out Serpent. And how does that not make sense? What's this ratio you're throwing out here? We've got 3 versions of Boomerang, all incredibly similar, and then Gale Boomerang. The numbers matter not. And I guess we have different interpretations of messy. However, you bring up a good point with the Boomerang being a custom move. Idk, I'm just not really into this split as much as the others anyways. I get a strong sense that this was tagged for the hell of it/OCD/external pressure/just cause. I'm retracting my vote. Also, isn't kinda weird how the Gale Boomerang has more written about it than the standard Boomerang? [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 05:00, 30 April 2016 (EDT)
-How I see it, despite both the regular Boomerang and the Gale Boomerang both functioning the same, they have different properties. But then there are weirdness like having too many moves that would make this page messy or something. I honestly don't want to get this article too confusing, because it looks okay as is. '''Oppose'''. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Starman 14:34, 30 April 2016 (EDT)
-:Agreed, I saw no problem in the first place. I don't see much of a point in a split with the messiness that would ensue. Three moves on one page isn't a problem, it's just that in this case it's best to leave as is for the sake of organization and not being confusing. '''Oppose''' as well. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 14:40, 30 April 2016 (EDT)
-==Split Version 2==
-I'm going with '''Slight Oppose'''. While the bow pages all have their own page, there are like 5 different bows. On the other hand, there's only 2 boomerangs, Gale and normal. There's no real need to separate this page imo. [[User:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Times New Roman"><span style="color: red;">SugarCookie</span></span>]] [[User talk:SugarCookie420|<span style="font-family:Impact"><span style="color: green;">420</span></span>]] 12:41, 3 March 2019 (EST)
-:'''Oppose''' and only because its only real change is it has a windbox, and thus isn't really big enough when we can just redirect here [[User:Xtra3678|Xtra3678]] ([[User talk:Xtra3678|talk]]) 12:29, 6 March 2019 (EST)
-:'''Nah''' Too little content to justify two different articles. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 12:44, 3 March 2019 (EST)
-::The bows are separated, despite essentially being the same move in essence. The Boomerang follows the same deal, though with the added effect of "in ''Brawl'', it has a windbox that pulls opponents and items in". While I am '''neutral''' on a split, I do think that it should be both or none (as in, split the boomerang or merge the bow). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: green;">'''the Irish Rurouni'''</span>]] 12:49, 3 March 2019 (EST)
-'''Support''', why is this not already a thing? We gave [[Remote Bomb]] its own page, there's really no reason not to do the same for this. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:53, 3 March 2019 (EST)
-This is already being [[Forum:General_proposals#Merging_and_Splitting_Moves|disused here]]. [[User:Wolff|&#32;Wolff]] ([[User talk:Wolff|talk]]) 16:53, March 16, 2019 (EDT)
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