Editing Talk:Alternate costume (SSBU)

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== Chrom's Black costume ==

While there is little difference to default Chrom, I think the black costume is based on his [https://fireemblemwiki.org/w/images/8/8f/Portrait_chrom_r_fe13.png portrait in-game], [https://fireemblemwiki.org/w/images/5/52/FEA_Chrom_concept_sheet.png concept art] and even his [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/101/104332.png?updated=1522047033 overworld sprite] in ''Fire Emblem Awakening''. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 16:09, September 19, 2021 (EDT)

== Samus's Green alts ==

It could be posible that Zero Suit Samus white and green alts are based on the monochromatic and original screen color of the ''Game Boy'' in her appearance in ''Metroid II: Return of Samus''. That could also add a little to the normal Samus green alt. On the other hand adding Dark Samus (who is the reincarnated form of Metroid Prime, a mutated Metroid) to the mix, Metroids are primarily of color green with red parts (like Samus green costume) and even some have blue parts (example [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/metroid/images/e/ed/Queenie.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100909073307 Queen Metroid]) just like in Dark Samus's costume. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 02:54, October 19, 2021 (EDT)

== Ike Purple alt ==

I think his costume is lightly based on [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/9/9c/Micaiah_%28FE10_Artwork%29.png/revision/latest?cb=20210502065733 Micaiah] from ''Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn'', mostly because both have a shirt of color purple with small stripes of pink. I can barely see it right, but the color of the bandana Ike uses is a shade of blue just like Micaiah's scarf and hair ornament. The only thing that is weird is the boots where Ike's are red with some light brown strings hanging out while Micaiah is light brown boots with red strings. For this I consider her important because she is the protagonist of this game as well as Ike is. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 03:43, October 19, 2021 (EDT)

== Sora's P7 Costume ==

Unlike his P6 Costume which is nearly, if not entirely, 1-to-1 with his Valor Form from KH2, Sora's P7 Costume is actually a cross between Wisdom Form and his KH3D outfit, using the KH3D outfit as the base with Wisdom Form's color scheme and flame marks.  So basically, it's what Wisdom Form would have looked like if KH2's Drive Forms were in KH3D.  [[Special:Contributions/192.208.172.127|192.208.172.127]] 07:04, October 19, 2021 (EDT)

== Ice Climbers ==

Considering the limits of what the original game offers, I got some ideas from where some colors might be based on. One thing that the game offers you with a variety of colors are vegetables. This are for futher reference: [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/32/34779.png?updated=1460956793 the sprites] and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/6/6d/Vegetables_-_Brawl_Trophy.png the Brawl Trophy].

Green: Based on Cucumber (or Cabbage but i feel cucumber have a more darker shade of green) and Corn. The combination could also reflect the lower heighs of the mountain in the game being of the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/60/63214.png?updated=1460963180 color green and a light orange with yellow].

Brown: Based on Mushroom and Potato, if we consider potatoes having a more gray-ish shade than a brown but could also represent [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/iceclimber/images/5/5a/IC_Topi_Artwork.png/revision/latest?cb=20190324204541 Topi], an enemy from the international release of the game considering the white/light gray color of the furr and the yellow arms and feets just like the boots and mittens of both of them.

Orange: Based on the Pumpkin (or Carrots) and Eggplant, this combination could also reflect the levels where the Eggplant appears being hold by the Condor who is orange. Also some levels in the Arcade version of the game, in some heighs change to [https://youtu.be/mQsPlj6rEMw?t=409 purple and a dark orange].

Blue & indigo: This could reference the different shades of blue used for anything ice related in the sprite work as well as the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/62/65119.png?updated=1460963693 Title screen logo and Popo's results screen]. For INDIGO, Popo resembles colors in the sprite of the Eggplant which used dark blue and purple just like the parka and mittens respectively. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 00:29, October 20, 2021 (EDT)

== Marth Red costume ==

I was serching for ideas of why even though Marth RED costume have a black shirt instead of a red one. I searched on who or what could reference within his games outside of Enemy Units. A character who also is in the status of royalty just like Marth is Minerva. While most of her old apparences feature her in mostly red with some legwear in black or dark red to brown, in [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/b/b5/MinervaFE3.png/revision/latest?cb=20170508061759 ''Mystery of the Emblem''] you can see she is totally red and darker red on some parts while in the [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/c/c7/Minerva_TCG1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100719003259 Trading Card Game] and [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/b/b0/MinervaDS.png/revision/latest?cb=20210502070558 ''Shadow Dragon''] looks a bit more brown so the only thing that she does not have is black shirt, but in the book ''Fire Emblem The Complete'', a piece of artwork shows [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/4/41/Minerva_The_Complete.png/revision/latest?cb=20100904170843 this desing] featuring a the black shirt, yellow to orange details and even have a red cape even tho the green stone ornament is still red for Marth. Some purple details can be seen in Marth (boots straps and the other side of the cape) probably evoking a bit of Minerva's (cape?) in the past two references but also her design in [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fireemblem/images/4/49/Minerva-FE1_Manual_Artwork.png/revision/latest?cb=20190318224000 ''Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light''] in which she was wearing completely purple. I believe this could be the reference all along since ''Melee'' because the book cameout in 1996 and the TCG is probably that old too since it only covered games of the SNES era. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 20:22, October 20, 2021 (EDT)

== Star Fox in general ==

All the Orange alts: Artwork of [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/4/43/Fox_McCloud_SF_art.jpg Fox] and [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/6/60/Falco.jpg Falco] in ''Star Fox''. This also includes Wolf being based on Fox.

Fox

White: Might resemble [https://starfoxwiki.info/wiki/Bill_Grey Bill] in ''Star Fox 64'' and ''Star Fox 64 3D'' and the [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starfox/images/1/18/Star_Fox_Command_Bill_Cornerian_Figther.png/revision/latest?cb=20130321063813 Cornerian Fighter].

Yellow: Also resembles [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/8/8a/Slippy_and_Grenades_Assault_art.jpg Slippy] in ''Star Fox Assault'' and ''Star Fox Command''.

Falco

Green: Resembles [https://www.models-resource.com/resources/big_icons/21/20677.png Falco] in ''Star Fox Adventures''.

Blue: Resembles the colors of the [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/8/86/Arwing_64.jpg Arwing], [https://starfoxwiki.info/wiki/File:Slippy_SF1_art.jpg Slippy] in ''Star Fox'' (most games minus ''Assault'' and ''Command'') and recently [https://starfoxwiki.info/w/images/0/07/Star_Fox_2_Fay_artwork.png Fay] in ''Star Fox 2''.

Pink: Resembles [https://starfoxwiki.info/wiki/Katt_Monroe Katt] color scheme in ''Star Fox 64'', ''Star Fox Zero'' and some cutscenes in ''Star Fox Command''. 

:PD: [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starlink/images/e/e1/Wolf_Transparent.png/revision/latest?cb=20190604232452 HERE] a link for a picture of ''Starlink'' Wolf from their wiki if needed. Edit: Forgot to sign in the first place [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 01:04, October 21, 2021 (EDT)

== Dr. Mario's Purple costume ==
His Purple color possibly takes inspiration of the [https://img.zonared.com/images/analisis/700/700/3.jpg Purple Checkboard background] in the original Dr. Mario game on the NES, due his coat is purple and gloves are almost black. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.93.60.77|70.93.60.77]] ([[User talk:70.93.60.77|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.93.60.77|contribs]]) 19:56, October 21, 2021 (EDT)</small>

Also, his necktie is orange, matching with the display window in-game. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:70.93.60.77|70.93.60.77]] ([[User talk:70.93.60.77|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/70.93.60.77|contribs]]) 17:41, October 25, 2021 (EDT)</small>

== Ganondorf (some ideas) ==

Violet: Might represent [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Gerudo_Guard Gerudo Guards] in ''Ocarina of Time'' and ''Majora's Mask''. Choose this because this alt still have red in the outfit as the Gerudo's outfit does.

Green: Might represent [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Gerudo_Warrior Gerudo Warriors] in ''Ocarina of Time'' as a texture glitch matches Link's tunic even tho in ''Majora's Mask'' [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Gerudo_Pirate Gerudo Pirates] are also found in light green with no glitch linked to it. Ganondorf have a [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/f/fb/HWL_Ganondorf_Koholint_Map_Standard_Armor_Model.png/revision/latest?cb=20160824124735 Koholint armor] that matches more this alt in ''Hyrule Warriors Legends''. Easily could reference [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Farore_(Goddess) Farore], the goddess of Courage and whom Link's triforce is well... linked.

Purple: Because of the clothes being purple as a whole, it might represent [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/2/20/Dinoot.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20100612044200 Din] as she appears in ''Ocarina of Time''. She is the goddess of Power, the same part of the triforce that Ganondorf got in that game. [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/6/6d/ALBW_Yuga_Ganon_Model.png/revision/latest?cb=20191124034811 Yuga Ganon] might also work as his [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/e/e8/HWL_Ganondorf_Lorule_Standard_Armor_Model.png/revision/latest?cb=20161102233311 Lorule armor] in ''Hyrule Warriors Legends'' is purple. [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Yuga#A_Link_Between_Worlds Yuga] himself also mostly wears Purple.

Brown: as extra, brown is also the color of Ganon in ''The Legend of Zelda'' when gets weakened. [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/e/e5/TLoZ_Ganon_Weakened_Sprite_2.png/revision/latest?cb=20170831125743 The sprite is here]. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 02:39, October 22, 2021 (EDT)

== Captain Falcon ==

The black costume also appeared later on in [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/fzero/images/9/9a/Captain_Falcon_%28GX-AX%29_P2.png/revision/latest?cb=20200806235215 as an alt] in ''F-Zero GX/AX'' as an alternate color for him. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 20:44, October 22, 2021 (EDT)

== Kid Icarus series ==
Pit

Yellow - Based on the [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Centurion Centurions] artwork from the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAVE.pdf Instruction Booklet] of ''Kid Icarus'' where they are depicted mostly yellow albeit named "Centurian" in the manual and in Japan they are named "Icarus".

Blue - Also resembles some artworks in [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAVE.pdf Instruction Booklet] of ''Kid Icarus''.

White - Could be a reference to [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Centurion_Strongarm Centurion Strongarm] that have white boots and golden helmet (interpreted as the hair?).

Dark Pit

Green - Might resemble [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Thanatos Thanatos] green color scheme in ''Kid Icarus''.

Yellow - Same as Pit.

Red - Resembles [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Twinbellows Twinbellows] in ''Uprising'' being dark red and yellow flames with the back bones being white just as Dark Pit's wings. 

Blue - Might also resemble Pandora, as she was the one who created him (in a way) and using her power to fly later on.

Palutena

Blue - Resembles herself in the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/clv/manuals/en/pdf/CLV-P-NAAVE.pdf Instruction Booklet] of ''Kid Icarus''. Also resembles [https://kidicarus.fandom.com/wiki/Pandora Pandora]. 

BTW, I linked to an official pdf of the KI instruction booklet by Nintendo so I don't know if the link will work or is right to be referenced here. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 01:26, October 26, 2021 (EDT)

== Bowser's P5 (Grey) Costume ==

Isn't there the possibility that it's been inspired by Shigeru Miyamoto's [https://www.mariowiki.com/File:Bowser_and_Peach_original_SMB.png original artwork] for ''Super Mario Bros.''? [[User:Kusanagi|Kusanagi]] ([[User talk:Kusanagi|talk]]) 14:43, October 27, 2021 (EDT)
:Well, it cannot be because the ''Super Mario Bros.'' artwork was previously referenced in ''Brawl'' as a the Blue skin along side the grey one. [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/3/37/Bowser_Palette_%28SSBB%29.png Bowser's Alternate Costumes in Brawl] [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 01:32, October 30, 2021 (EDT)

== Colors for some ==

Bowser: "Orange" also matches up with artwork of him between the NES and SNES era ([https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/6/63/SMBTLL-Bowser_Art2.png Super Mario Bros.: The Lost Levels], [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/1/11/BowserSMW1.png Super Mario World]) and the N64 era ([https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/c/cc/SM64_Mario_Swings_Bowser.png Super Mario 64]) but the hair is totally ''Ultimate'' version of Giga Bowser.

Cloud: "Advent Blue" also resembles [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/1/11/FinalFantasyAdventChildren-Cloud3.png/revision/latest?cb=20200405213650 Cloud's artwork] in some boxarts of the ''Final Fantasy VII: Advent Children'' movie.

Corrin: "Orange" is based on [https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Oboro Oboro], Takumi's retainer from ''Fate''.

Daisy: "Red" could reference [https://www.otakufreaks.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/marios-tennis-virtual-boy-miltijugador.png Peach's sprite] on the Virtual Boy game ''Mario's Tennis'', the first tennis-related Mario game. "Black" could reference [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/b/bd/SML_Daisy_Screenshot.png Daisy's sprite] in ''Super Mario Land'' with even a bit of green of the Game Boy screen.

Diddy Kong: "Green" furr resembles the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/1/162.png?updated=1548810567 yellow alt] in ''DK: King of Swing''; "Blue" vest is also available in ''Donkey Kong 64'' Multiplayer and ''DK: King of Swing''; "Yellow" cap also resembles the source of "White" but the furr is closer to the monochrome [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/8/8a/DKLDiddyKongSprite.png appearance] in ''Donkey Kong Land'' or the blue alt in ''DK: King of Swing''.

Donkey Kong: "Black" fur could also reference the sprites of the GB's ''[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/b/b4/DKLDonkeyKongSprite.png Donkey Kong Land]'' and GBC's ''[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/9/9d/G%26WG2_Modern_Donkey_Kong_Sprite.png Game & Watch Gallery 2]''. "Green" also resembles [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/c/cf/DKGBDonkeyKongSprite.png his sprite] in ''Donkey Kong'' for  the Game Boy albeit being a darker green.

Greninja: "Red" is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Crawdaunt_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Crawdaunt]; "Pink" is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lickitung_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Lickitung] and/or [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Lickilicky_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Lickilicky]; "Green" is [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Politoed_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Politoed] and/or [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Kecleon_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Kecleon].

Isabelle: "Pink" resembles [https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/Pelly Pelly] while "Purple" resembles [https://animalcrossing.fandom.com/wiki/Phyllis Phyllis], sisters that also worked at the Town Hall in games like ''Wild World'' and ''City Folk''.

King Dedede: "Purple" also resembles [https://wikirby.com/w/images/c/c8/KTD_Masked_Dedede_battle_4.png Masked Dedede] in ''Triple Deluxe'' that was controlled by Queen Sectonia which also his obi have patterns based on her.

Luigi: "Cyan" and "Yellow" are also part of the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/47/50365.png?updated=1635807007 sprite rotation] in the Invincibility effect in ''Super Mario Bros.''. "Blue" is also available in the multiplayer [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/7/77/Multiplayer-LMDM.jpg ScareScraper] of ''Luigi's Mansion: Dark Moon''. "Yellow" is also available in ''[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/0/03/Mgluigi.png Mario Golf]'' and ''[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/e/ed/Luigi_Colors.png Mario Tennis]'' on the N64 albeit the colors are inverted.

Mr. Game & Watch: "Green" also the Game Boy but the dark pixels i guess.

Peach: "Yellow" dress could still be based on the [https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/d/d8/SML_Daisy_Old.png classic appearance of Daisy], or Peach's sprite on the GBC sports games of ''[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/8/8c/MTGBCPeach.png Mario Tennis]'', ''[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/a/a2/MarioGolfPeach.PNG Mario Golf]'' and ''[https://mario.wiki.gallery/images/e/e1/MobileGolfPrincessPeachSprite.png Mobile Golf]''. I have seen some say its the Golden Drink effect from ''Super Mario Party'' that cover the player completely in gold.

Pyra/Mythra: "Saturated" Pyra resembles the [https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Monado Shulk's Monado] while Mythra might slightly resemble [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/xenoblade/images/c/cb/XC2_Nia_Blade_Artwork_alt.png/revision/latest?cb=20190203040043 Nia's blade form]; "Metal" might be taken from Rex's interpretation of Pneuma (Pyra + Mythra) as "Coffee with Milk" (Brown and White), Pyra resembles the [https://xenosaga.fandom.com/wiki/Zohar Zohar] from ''Xenosaga'' while Mythra might resemble the Mini-Zohar which is small white version of it.

Robin: "Blue" resembles the male avatar from ''Fire Emblem: New Mystery of the Emblem'' named [https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Kris Kris], maybe the purple parts were taken from the female avatar.

Sonic: "Purple" might also resemble [https://sonic.fandom.com/wiki/Blaze_the_Cat Blaze the Cat] as she was also playable in her debut game ''Sonic Rush''.

I ignored some because I have commented them before but others I might have already but I was not so "straight to the point", or the previous games already have it. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 01:05, November 11, 2021 (EST)

== Daisy's pink costume ==

I'm pretty sure Daisy's pink costume is inspired by her Super Mario Bros Print World art (https://www.mariowiki.com/File:SMBPW_Princess_Daisy.png) given the color scheme is nearly identical, more so than Peach's early artworks and sprites.
[[User:ANTI|ANTI]] ([[User talk:ANTI|talk]]) 20:19, November 19, 2021 (EST)

== Yellow Pit and Red Dark Pit ==
I might be stretching things way too much with these, but I think I made a major discovery. Dark Pit's red costume looks like {{s|icaruspedia|Twinbellows}}, down to the lighter wings representing the exposed spine. Also, Pit's yellow costume looks almost exactly like his design in the [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/valiantcomics/images/6/6e/Captain_N_The_Game_Master_Vol_1_1.jpg/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20161021101217 official Captain N comic book].[[User:The Other Jared|The Other Jared]] ([[User talk:The Other Jared|talk]]) 20:23, December 3, 2021 (EST)
:I hope they read yours, I said the same thing about Red Dark Pit like a month ago XD. IMO yellow Pit might reference the [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/nintendo/images/5/5d/Centurion.png/revision/latest?cb=20110918135913&path-prefix=en centurions]. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 14:51, December 6, 2021 (EST)

== Luigi's cyan costume ==

I'm pretty sure this resembles Luigi's in-game appearance in [https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Bowser%27s_Inside_Story Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TomAndTheCats|TomAndTheCats]] ([[User talk:TomAndTheCats|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TomAndTheCats|contribs]]) 20:46, December 15, 2021 (EST)</small>
:That game released after Brawl which introduced the alt because Brawl released in 2008 and the Mario game you listed released in 2009. [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 03:11, December 16, 2021 (EST)
::Dang, if only Sakurai had had a heart and changed the color of the emblem on his cap... {{Unsigned|TomAndTheCats|}}
:My bad, I actually meant his boxart appearance in [https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]. In Brawl, his emblem is actually black, which I think is a nice touch! {{Unsigned|TomAndTheCats|}}

== Richter's Harmony of Despair color palette ==

I'm kinda hesitant to point this out because I know that every references need a source link to further enforce the truth yet unfortunately I only have a video  of said color palette about guides to use unused color palette in the game as there's seems to be no sprite rip (https://youtu.be/xtFxXNojBno?t=15). As you can see in the timestamp while blurry it is still kinda noticeable that there are some similarity with some of his costume, specifically the black, red, green, purple, and white and I think this reference is acceptable as HoD came out years before Ultimate. 

If there's someone out there who is a series expert I humbly need a further examination.
[[User:Command Stratos|Command Stratos]] ([[User talk:Command Stratos|talk]]) 07:09, January 5, 2022 (EST)
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 I'm pretty sure this resembles Luigi's in-game appearance in [https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Bowser%27s_Inside_Story Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story]. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TomAndTheCats|TomAndTheCats]] ([[User talk:TomAndTheCats|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TomAndTheCats|contribs]]) 20:46, December 15, 2021 (EST)</small>
 :That game released after Brawl which introduced the alt because Brawl released in 2008 and the Mario game you listed released in 2009. [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 03:11, December 16, 2021 (EST)
-:Dang, if only Sakurai had had a heart and changed the color of the emblem on his cap... <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TomAndTheCats|TomAndTheCats]] ([[User talk:TomAndTheCats|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TomAndTheCats|contribs]]) 11:21, December 21, 2021 (EST)</small>
+::Dang, if only Sakurai had had a heart and changed the color of the emblem on his cap... {{Unsigned|TomAndTheCats|}}
-:My bad, I actually meant his boxart appearance in [https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]. In Brawl, his emblem is actually black, which I think is a nice touch! <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:TomAndTheCats|TomAndTheCats]] ([[User talk:TomAndTheCats|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/TomAndTheCats|contribs]]) 14:28, January 10, 2022 (EST)</small>
+:My bad, I actually meant his boxart appearance in [https://www.mariowiki.com/Mario_%26_Luigi:_Superstar_Saga Mario & Luigi: Superstar Saga]. In Brawl, his emblem is actually black, which I think is a nice touch! {{Unsigned|TomAndTheCats|}}
 == Richter's Harmony of Despair color palette ==
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 If there's someone out there who is a series expert I humbly need a further examination.
 [[User:Command Stratos|Command Stratos]] ([[User talk:Command Stratos|talk]]) 07:09, January 5, 2022 (EST)
-== Kirby's Orange alt ==
-I'd say that the comparison of Suplex Kirby and the Orange alt isn't good as the Suplex coloration for Kirby is Slightly Brown or similar to Normal. I'll say that it looks more like the coloration of Crash and Fireball Kirby in the artworks of Kirby's Adventure (They're both orange with red feet). [[Special:Contributions/162.83.241.208|162.83.241.208]] 09:37, January 15, 2022 (EST)
-== Green Wolf ==
-I believe the Green alt. for Wolf might be based on his team member [https://starfox.fandom.com/wiki/Leon_Powalski Leon Powalski] as he have green skin with yellow details around the eyes just like Wolf's jacket while in ''Assault'' and ''Command'' he wears a purple suit like Wolf's in this alt. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 04:20, January 22, 2022 (EST)
-==Violet Ganondorf==
-I believe that Ganondorf’s violet alt. is based on Yuga from A Link Between Worlds. His hair is similar, being a brighter shade of red, his skin tone is lighter compared to his default alt., and his cape is purple. This would match Ganondorf’s other alts. as they seem to be linked up with other appearances of him throughout the series. Link to a picture of Yuga for reference: https://nintendo.fandom.com/wiki/Yuga
-[[User:LakesideNyq|LakesideNyq]] ([[User talk:LakesideNyq|talk]]) 18:15, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
-:Hmmmm... I think it might be a little bit of a reach. The colour of the cape and the hair matches, that's about it. The skin colour is just a single shade lighter than his default, nowhere near approaching Yuga's appearance. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] the 🦊[[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry''']]🐺. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 20:35, April 2, 2022 (EDT)
-:IMO should be considered as a possibility (a lot of alt colors are not a 1-1 match, consider terms like "inspired", "resembles", "based on" or "reminiscent" to reflect how close the alt color to the source might be) as in the ''A Link Between Worlds'', Yuga and Ganon merges into [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/6/6d/ALBW_Yuga_Ganon_Model.png/revision/latest?cb=20191124034811 Yuga Ganon], aka a canonical reason of why they (the Smash Bros. team) could have seen this as inspiration, but also imo, more closely resembles the Purple one rather than the Violet one. Other posibilities for Violet or Purple could be Din the goddess that represents the triforce of Power (the one that Ganondorf got, in ''Ocarina of Time'' she was [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/powerlisting/images/f/ff/Din_%28Zelda_Ocarina_of_Time%29.png/revision/latest/top-crop/width/360/height/450?cb=20150201204105 purple-pink] instead of orange-red), the color of the [https://zelda-archive.fandom.com/wiki/Six_Medallions Shadow Medallion], some of the [https://www.models-resource.com/nintendo_64/legendofzeldaocarinaoftime/model/1710/ Gerudo Guards] and even White is purple-ish and also resembles [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda/images/7/71/Vaati_Humano.png/revision/latest?cb=20110211200632&path-prefix=es Vaati in human form].
-[[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 03:00, April 13, 2022 (EDT)
-==Purple Incineroar==
-I believe this alternate costume may be based (or at least involuntarily referencing) on [https://sonic.fandom.com/fr/wiki/Big_the_Cat Big The Cat] from the sonic franchise, which matches perfectly his purple hue and is also, as a matter of fact, a cat.<small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Le Canard Belge|Le Canard Belge]] ([[User talk:Le Canard Belge|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Le Canard Belge|contribs]]) 16:04, May 6, 2022 (EDT)</small>
-:This has been brought up [[Talk:Alternate_costume_(SSBU)/Archive_7#Big the Cat|multiple]] [[Talk:Alternate_costume_(SSBU)/Archive_6#Incineroar's_purple_pallet_swap_resembling_Big|times]] to the point that the page itself includes a comment saying not to add that as a reference. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 16:09, May 6, 2022 (EDT)
-== Incineroar ==
-My theory is that Green and Blue actually represents the other two starter Pokémon from Generation VII, those being [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Rowlet_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Rowlet] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Popplio_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Popplio], with Green being more prominent in Rowlet's final avolution [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Decidueye_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Decidueye], the other Pokémon that was considerated instead of Incineroar for Smash.
-Purple is probably based on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Purrloin_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Purrloin], a dark-type (sometimes) bipedal feline from Generation V. The yellow dot on Incineroar's paw (I don't know how its called XD) might be for Purloin's evolution, [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Liepard_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Liepard] that features more yellow rather than a very light brown/yellow.
-Grey is a common color in some breeds of cat for what I have seen (like [https://cf.ltkcdn.net/cats/images/orig/246350-1600x901-blue-persian-kitten-playing.jpg this] [https://i.pinimg.com/originals/a3/42/59/a342592f2e8cc751017b9eda5c96add5.jpg ones] for example, even the yellow eyes), and some Pokémon have those colors like Generation IV's [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Glameow_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Glameow] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Purugly_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Purugly], Generation VI's [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Espurr_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Espurr], and the Alolan form of Generation I's [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Meowth_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Meowth] and [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Persian_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Persian] (this two also being Dark-type Pokémon). [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 18:37, July 10, 2022 (EDT)
-== Lucario: Teal and Pink ==
-I have seen it before but i don't remember where anymore but Teal is based on the colors of [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/c/cb/HOME483_s.png Shiny Dialga] as it features both the color teal but also the light green that Lucario's torso does.
-And while checking just clicked, the Pink one must be based on [https://archives.bulbagarden.net/media/upload/6/66/HOME484.png Palkia], i had commented previosly that might have been based on [https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Medicham_(Pok%C3%A9mon) Medicham] but Palkia makes more sense for the Generation he comes from. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 17:04, July 25, 2022 (EDT)
-:...or maybe they're just teal and pink alts. Why would Lucario reference Dialga or Palkia? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 17:13, July 25, 2022 (EDT)
-:Because they are the legendary pokémon (aka the ones on the box art) from the same generation? The teal one is here since Brawl unchanged, they must have sourced some of them from somewhere easy to pick (Lucario is blue, Dialga is blue... mmmm oh yeah, the shiny is slighty different, let's pick that one). For the Palkia one, same logic albeit i had said Medicham before, a Fighting/Psychic-type pokémon with a similar body structure is also a plausible option. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 17:36, July 25, 2022 (EDT)
-== Lucario: Navy ==
-I think this one was obvious but decided to ignore, does this previously "anime" color Lucario is based on [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/9/9f/SSBU_spirit_Mega_Lucario.png Mega-Lucario]? Of course minus the red parts, this form have a darker blue and a more yellow torso than [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/0/04/SSBU_spirit_Lucario.png his normal form]. This alt been since SSB4 so it's possible as his Mega-evolution was also his Final Smash since then, plus Byleth also have 2 skins that are also part of their Final Smash. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 17:56, July 25, 2022 (EDT)
-== Yellow C.Falcon ==
-While I don't disagree or want to change the current source (Dr. Stewart / Golden Fox) as they predate my source, there is a machine in ''F-Zero X Expansion Kit'' named [https://mutecity.org/wiki/Super_Falcon Super Falcon] being depicted as a modified golden Blue Falcon, it could be another reason they made a full yellow C.Falcon alt color for ''Smash Bros.''  [[User:DoctaShield|Yubes13]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 20:30, July 26, 2022 (EDT)
-== White Rosalina ==
-A possible reason why Rosalina's white outfit uses pink over the usual red that the sources credit, could be a nod on the [https://www.mariowiki.com/White_Mage White Mage] from the ''Final Fantasy'' series, more specifically, the female character that appears in ''Mario Hoops 3-on-3'' and ''Mario Sports Mix'', which also resembles Rosalina's hairstyle (the part of the hair covering one eye) and features pink hair. Also Rosalina's dress is similar to the usual depiction of [https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/White_Mage/Gallery White Mage's] long robe. [[User:DoctaShield|Yubes13]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 00:15, July 27, 2022 (EDT)
-== Blue Kirby ==
-The page says the blue alt. of Kirby is based on Ice Kirby from ''Kirby Super Star'' but it should be from ''Kirby's Adventure'', not only because it's an older game, but also the [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/46/49192.png?updated=1460959367 sprite] and [https://wikirby.com/wiki/File:KA_Ice_artwork.png artwork] from the latter game only uses shades of blue while all  versions of ''Kirby Super Star'' [https://wikirby.com/wiki/Ice#Gallery Ice Kirby] features Kirby's shoes being color purple instead. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 15:56, July 27, 2022 (EDT)
-:The site for Smash 64 states that Kirby's Blue Alt is specifically Ice Kirby in Kirby Super Star. [[Special:Contributions/104.28.56.1|104.28.56.1]] 09:07, August 1, 2022 (EDT)
-:While the ''Kirby's Adventure'' artwork for Ice Kirby (in addition to Freeze Kirby) do have an exact color match, the sprite has a white body and light blue feet (likely due to palette limitations, but whatever), which no Kirby alt. has that exact color scheme. [[File:JacketTerraSig1.png|20px]]'''The [[User:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: blue;">Jacketed</span>]] [[User talk:The Jacketed Terrapin|<span style="color: green;">Terrapin</span>]]'''[[File:JacketTerraSig2.png|20px]] 11:47, August 1, 2022 (EDT)
-:Mmm, alright, my defence here would have been ''but the Brawl and SSB4 trophies of Ice Kirby also name Kirby's Adventure first and [https://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_SSBB_trophies_(Kirby_series) both of] [https://www.ssbwiki.com/List_of_SSB4_trophies_(Kirby_series) them] are full blue'' although I was in the same boat with the sprite being not 1-1 but likewse thinking about palette limiations. Also, there is similar situation is with Samus pink alt., to quote: ''Based on the Gravity Suit's in-game sprite from Super Metroid (Smash 64 source, btw I think the page now is unavailable), but more closely resembles the color scheme of the Varia Suit of the original Metroid when missiles are selected.'' [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 14:52, August 1, 2022 (EDT)
-:I think I have founded why it is like it is. If you go to the [https://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/Color.html JP Smash Bros. 64 webpage] where the alt colors are, you can find the Ice Kirby source is from ''Kirby Super Star'' but if you notice, Kirby does actually have the purple feet as the game of origin does. But visiting this wiki, Kirby's SSB 64 costume alts have [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/1/17/Kirby_Palette_%28SSB%29.png the blue feet] as Ice Kirby from ''Kirby's Adventure'' (I also checked the textures for the 3D model of that alt, it is also dark blue). My conclusion is that the ''Smash Bros.'' 64 webpage was taken from an early version of the game as searching for footage of the JP version of the game [https://youtu.be/yDyI4pIVM8c?t=719 still shows a full blue Kirby] in case it could have been a Japan Only thing before the International release made changes and adjustments. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 21:29, August 16, 2022 (EDT)
-== Pyra/Mythra: likely the colors for P7 and P8. ==
-P7 aka the ''Saturated'' alt is themed around blades in two ways but also might have been skipped explanation due to spoilers. Pyra's emerald (this is the color that is described in ''Xenoblade Chronicles 2'') highlights and core crystal are blue, which with the color red matches with the colors of the blade known as the [https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Monado Monado], it enters a bit of spoiler territory but it's implied in XBC2 that there was 3 core crystals, 1 for Pyra/Mythra/Pneuma, one for Malos (the main antagonist) and another that got lost in a "space time event". Later on the release of XBC ''Definitive Edition'' came around and [https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Alvis Alvis] got redesigned to have a core crystal in his necklace, he could use the Monado with no problem (let's say, the Monado chooses its wielder), that is similar how a Driver and the Blade share the weapon. For Mythra, this is more conjecture on the color of the boots and stockings, red boots, golden details, white stockings, the same as [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/xenoblade/images/c/cb/XC2_Nia_Blade_Artwork_alt.png/revision/latest?cb=20190203040043 Nia's Blade form], everything else in her desing is white with black and some small touches of red too, with the gloves being a mismatch, but matching the inside of Nia's sleeves (black and red), plus some decorations in the ears are black, and so Mythra's tiara. The only mismatch is the hair color, being another shade of blonde instead of the white as the previous yellow alt. This also enters spoiler territory as this is Nia's true form and only reveladed late game (albeit before Pneuma's). Also, they used Mythra again for a Nia alt, but there is also a Blade Special in which Rex uses both Nia and Pyra named [https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Nexus_Force?so=search Nexus Force] so Mythra is the outcast.
-P8 aka "Metal", while we had a two alts based on ''Xenogears'', this one is based around ''Xenosaga''. Pyra's golden color matches with that of the Zohar, a powerful object that appeared both in [https://xenosaga.fandom.com/wiki/Zohar_(Xenogears) ''Xenogears''] and [https://xenosaga.fandom.com/wiki/Zohar ''Xenosaga''], but the desing is from ''Xenosaga'' in this case (according to the wiki, it's inspired by the Monolith from ''2001: A Space Odyssey'' which is also part of [https://nintendo.pe/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/monolith-soft.jpg Monolith Soft's logo] and maybe even inspired the company's name). The thing is, this object is all over XBC2 in (atleast) 3 ways, while not directly confirmed, its great power and shape matches with that of the [https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/Conduit Conduit]; the shape also is the same as the Core Crystal of Pyra/Mythra, Malos and Alvis; and lastly, ''Xenosaga''´s KOS-MOS (and also T-Elos) appear in XBC2 as Blades, with [https://xenoblade.fandom.com/wiki/KOS-MOS KOS-MOS]'s weapon being shaped after the Zohar itself. Mythra's silver is the same, just that it resembles the [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/xenosaga/images/3/30/Art-bg01.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150908053726 Mini-Zohar] from the same series. Both colors also resemble brown and white, which are also a nod to a talk between Rex and Mythra about their new form, Pneuma; Rex asks who of them is Pneuma, Pyra or Mythra, Mythra answer that is both of them at the same time, to which Rex take is as "so it's like coffee with milk", also in the Events Theater (a way to rewatch cutscenes), the cutscene also is named [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mig_2pIXOp8 "Coffee with Milk"]. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 16:25, August 1, 2022 (EDT)
-== Different ideas that I found... for Ness and Sonic ==
-For Sonic, the orange color of his shoes and cuffs could be a reference to a unlockable outfit [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/5/53/SA2_Outfit_Sonic_HUmar.png/revision/latest?cb=20190119035925 (Battle Costume)] for the Dreamcast version of ''Sonic Adventure 2'' which is orange and yellow. Searching it's use (as I only had seen a picture before researching), it is inspired by the [https://phantasystar.fandom.com/wiki/HUmar HUmar class] in ''Phantasy Star Online'', their wiki names [https://phantasystar.fandom.com/wiki/Ash_Canaan Ash Canaan] as their default character of this class (just if this reference is needed). Same deal with NiGHTS I guess, as Sonic also appears in PSO.  Just in case, there is also an unlockable [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/sonic/images/1/16/Sonicsuperdupertrendy.png/revision/latest?cb=20130625133052 cheetah outfit] for Sonic in ''Sonic Rivals 2''.
-For Ness, it's more of a nitpick of mine. I know the cyan outfit have a [https://wikibound.info/wiki/Master_Belch Master Belch] print, but I think it should change the wording as ''the color scheme and the print of this costume is themed around Master Belch and his stronger second form, [https://wikibound.info/wiki/Master_Barf Master Barf]'' as they have colors that matches the whole outfit. Ignoring the cyan like green color, red it's found both for Master Belch's lips (a brown-ish red) and the body of Master Barf body (looking at the overworld sprite; a very red pink) that the shirt, pants and some parts of the shoes have. On the other hand the front part of the cap also have a purple color, similar of that of Master Barf lips or even the blue-ish color of Master Belch clay model. [[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 20:15, August 7, 2022 (EDT)
-== Incineroar's Shiny Rewording ==
-The text for Incineroar's shiny palette in the page says "Resembles its shiny coloration.", and I'm asking if it could be changed with "Based on its shiny coloration, with a black torso instead of gray.", because I think unlike the other shiny palettes, this one is intentionally looking like the actual shiny (because of the white fur), while the other shiny palettes are harder to confirm because they look more like compromises of limited color swapping.
-I've seen people claim that Incineroar's shiny alt isn't accurate just because of this article (Aaronitmar's video mainly) and I think it should be changed to state that alt is absolutely the shiny form.
-It's technically not accurate because they actually made the color of the chest change unlike the real shiny, but I think that's easy to overlook since the important parts of the palette is kept intact.
---[[User:Kirb-Star|Kirb-Star]] ([[User talk:Kirb-Star|talk]]) 18:27, September 29, 2022 (EDT)
-:I don't think it is a necessary change. Pikachu's red alt is much closer to its shiny than Incineroar's is to its shiny and yet we say "resembles". Someone making a video about means nothing. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:35, September 29, 2022 (EDT)
-::That's fair, could the entry be at least edited to mention "Resembles Incineroar's shiny color, with a darker colored chest."? It'd be informative all around if the entry stated what's the difference with the actual shiny regardless. [[User:Kirb-Star|Kirb-Star]] ([[User talk:Kirb-Star|talk]]) 00:59, September 30, 2022 (EDT)
-:::I have no issue with that. May as well extend it to the other Pokemon while I'm at it. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 06:56, September 30, 2022 (EDT)
-== Wario's biker alts ==
-Wario second and third biker alts look nothing like his player 3 and 4 color schemes from ''Mega Party Game$!'' at all. Literally go see them for yourself: https://www.spriters-resource.com/gamecube/wariowareincmegapartygame/sheet/57017/, they changed the colors of his outfit too much in ''Smash'' for the references to even make sense.
-His first biker alt doesn't really look like a ''Mega Party Game$!'' reference either, but not counting the gray pants, blue gloves, or the red belt from that costume it atleast manages to be '''close enough''' to the player 1 color sheme from that game, unlike the other costumes i just mentioned. --[[User:Improvisado|Improvisado]] ([[User talk:Improvisado|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Improvisado|contribs]]) 20:29, October 7, 2022  (GMT)
-== Miscellaneous post on potential origins or small details ==
-Some small comments on random characters which I wanted to share.
--Falco's green costume has a slight resemblance to his outfit in [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/starfox/images/8/8a/Falco_stand.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20150505164502 Star Fox Adventures]. There's a lot of differences but could be worth pointing out. This specific uniform also matches much more with Fox's new green costume in Ultimate.
--Cloud's blue costume was worn more directly by Cloud, as a Shinra infantry uniform [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/finalfantasy/images/c/c9/Cloud-ffvii-troop.png/revision/latest?cb=20120103135626 here.] Might be good to link it here alongside the 3rd Class SOLDIER uniform image. The much more vivid brown boots also resemble his actual boots as seen in [https://www.models-resource.com/pc_computer/finalfantasy7/model/38703/ FFVII's models], which are almost a muted dark grey in default Cloud in Smash.
--Sonic's orange costume resemble very closely his design as a sprite in the Master System/Game Gear games, where they were always portrayed as [https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/352566968345165824/1072006194878758953/sonics_standing_a.png orange.]. The checkpoint hand also has a red arm rather than a red cuff so might be getting outdated as a reference.
---[[User:Kirb-Star|Kirb-Star]] ([[User talk:Kirb-Star|talk]]) 23:08, February 5, 2023 (EST)
-== Snake's Black Costume ==
-I would not say it resembles the metallic skin for Snakes suit in MGS4 but rather Big Boss's sneaking suit in Peace Walker and Ground Zeroes.
-== Piranha Plant Alt 7 ==
-I believe that Piranha Plant's 7th alt color is actually based on modern renditions of the Cheep Chomp, another enemy from the Mario series. It's purple body and, notably, it's pink lips are a far better fit for the alt than the examples currently given. The fact that the Cheep Chomp is also an enemy who primarily attacks Mario by biting and eating him makes the connection very easy, in my opinion. [[User:UFO-Silverd|UFO-Silverd]] ([[User talk:UFO-Silverd|talk]]) 00:48, June 3, 2023 (EDT)
-== Sheik (White) ==
-Sheik's white costume could reference [https://zelda.fandom.com/wiki/Tetra Tetra] from ''The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker'', that while not Sheik, she is also secretely Zelda. Tetra's pants are white like this costume albeit it is also applied to the arms, the part around the Sheikah logo is light blue like Tetra's shirt and, while her scarf has a slightly more pink-ish hue, it is close to Sheik's red scarf in this costume.
-[[User:DoctaShield|DoctaShield]] ([[User talk:DoctaShield|talk]]) 22:45, July 30, 2023 (EDT)
-== Daisy's Section ==
-There is a remark describing Peach's classic look along with Daisy as being a curly-haired brunette. Daisy's hair might be styled in a flip, but it is arguably not at all curly in regard to what curly hair actually looks like, and Daisy's hair is officially orange, and has never actually been brown, especially compared to characters with brown hair. Daisy is not a brunette, she is a redhead, and her hair is not curly. Someone also pointed out this color more-so resembles her art from Mario Print World, which it honestly does. Can someone actually able to edit this protected page revise this info? [[User:TimonLeslieBerkowitz|TimonLeslieBerkowitz]] ([[User talk:TimonLeslieBerkowitz|talk]]) 21:36, October 14, 2023 (EDT)
-:The description is saying that Peach is the curly brunette and that Daisy resembles that, not that Daisy is a curly brunette. I'll at least remove the bit about "curly-haired" because neither Peach nor Daisy have that kind of hair. I'll hold off on the Mario Print World thing since that game appears to not have had the best quality control or color accuracy. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 22:45, October 14, 2023 (EDT)
-{{moved|from|[[User talk:CanvasK]]}}
-It's been a long time since you replied so I figured it'd be best to follow-up on your talk page. The problem I'm bringing up with it being described as such is it's implying Daisy herself has brunette hair akin to someone's perception of the sprite. If anything, too, that sprite had maroon hair, anyway, as it was a dark red color used, not actually brown. Seen here: [https://www.spriters-resource.com/resources/sheets/79/82288.png?updated=1642134016 link] There is a similar erroneous description on here of Zelda's debut The Legend of Zelda color being described as brunette even though it's based on this: [https://static.wikia.nocookie.net/zelda_gamepedia_en/images/e/eb/TLoZ_Princess_Zelda_Artwork.png/revision/latest?cb=20170718124926 link] where like Daisy it is much more of an orange color, even on the Smash model. [[User:TimonLeslieBerkowitz|TimonLeslieBerkowitz]] ([[User talk:TimonLeslieBerkowitz|talk]]) 19:16, December 18, 2023 (EST)
-:I can see where the confusion comes from, but the wording and the fact that Daisy is in neither SMB2 or 3 should suggest it is referring to Peach: "Resembles Peach's appearance in Super Mario Bros. 2 and Super Mario Bros. 3, where [Peach's] sprite had brunette hair."
-:The description for Zelda says it is based on the Red Ring sprite colors, which is closer to Brunette. The costume has red in the dress which is closer to the sprite while the artwork has a pink dress. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 19:44, December 18, 2023 (EST)
-== Cyan Inkling's Section ==
-Hi, I noticed an error on the Ultimate alternate costumes page. The cyan Inkling is listed as wearing the Retro Specs, but they're actually the Black Arrowbands. The artwork hyperlinked in the cyan Inkling's section of text is indeed wearing the Retro Specs, but the render & in-game model is wearing the Black Arrowbands. I'd fix the error myself, but I can't due my account being new & the page having protection. I was wondering if some 1 would be willing to make the edit for me plz. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:ComfiestBlanket|ComfiestBlanket]] ([[User talk:ComfiestBlanket|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/ComfiestBlanket|contribs]]) 19:35, November 14, 2023</small>
-:You are correct so I fixed for you. Also, remember to [[SW:SIGN|sign your comments]] in the future, thanks. [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="#0AF">Ultimate Toad,</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="blue">the Toad Warrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(I'm the best!)</font>]]''' 22:25, November 14, 2023 (EST)
-Thank you so much for doing this for me, I highly appreciate it. Also, sorry about forgetting to sign. [[User:ComfiestBlanket|ComfiestBlanket]] 23:11, November 15, 2023 (PST)
-== Inkling’s P7 Costume ==
-Hey, I think it’s worth mentioning that the Player 7 costume for Inkling are all items that can be obtained from the Splatoon 1 Inkling Girl amiibo. [[Special:Contributions/73.228.154.114|73.228.154.114]] 20:10, June 22, 2024 (EDT)
-== Lucina's P8 Color ==
-Most of Lucina's alts match the hair color of their inspiration, but her P8 alt's hair is a shade of black only slightly brighter than her Tharja alt, whereas Sumia's is a greyish blonde color.  From this info, I would argue that alt is more likely to be [https://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Panne Panne] (as an anonymous contributor stated earlier, and who is also a female character from ''Awakening'') or [https://fireemblemwiki.org/wiki/Ayra Ayra] (who, despite being from ''Genealogy of the Holy War'' rather than ''Awakening'', is also a character that travels on foot and exclusively wields swords, just as Lucina does prior to promotion or reclassing.  On top of that, Lucina is a character who only exists as the offspring to two other characters who have been married, a mechanic that is directly inspired by a similar mechanic in ''Genealogy.''  Ayra in particular is somewhat notable for already having a child prior to the formal introduction of this mechanic.)  [[BasteIt64]] 21:32, June 24, 2024 (PST)
-== Banjo's red costume==
-I don't see how [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/f/f0/Banjo_%26_Kazooie_Palette_%28SSBU%29.png?20190904235447 Banjo's red costume] looks anything like [https://rare.fandom.com/wiki/File:Conker_Artwork_-_Conker%27s_Bad_Fur_Day.png Conker the Squirrel]. It is too much of a red-brown color to resemble his orange fur. --[[User:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 13:58, June 29, 2024 (EDT)
-== Green Captain Falcon ==
-[https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/0/03/Captain_Falcon_Palette_%28SSBU%29.png?20181209012427 Captain Falcon's green costume] is too dark to look like Pico's [https://fzero.fandom.com/wiki/File:Wild_goose.jpg Wild Goose]. It looks closer to [https://fzero.fandom.com/wiki/File:Beastman_ending.png Beastman's] outfit. --[[User:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 13:58, June 29, 2024 (EDT)
-== Default Bowser==
-Comparing [https://mario.fandom.com/wiki/File:EFD96E0C-7BE5-4988-91FC-DBF1B47CF9AD.jpeg Bowser's design] in ''Super Mario Odyssey'' to [https://www.ssbwiki.com/File:SSBUBowserIdle2.gif his design] in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate'', Bowser in SSBU looks original. There's no way this design references ''Odyssey''. --[[User:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 13:58, June 29, 2024 (EDT)
-== King K. Rool's Red Color==
-There is no visual resemblance with [https://www.ssbwiki.com/images/e/e1/King_K._Rool_Palette_%28SSBU%29.png?20181209013233 K. Rool's orange costume] with the [https://donkeykong.fandom.com/wiki/File:RekoilCountry3.jpg Re-Koils] like the table says. The Re-Koil, like Conker, is a bright orange, while K. Rool's costume looks like a muted red. --[[User:Dogleader|Dogleader]] ([[User talk:Dogleader|talk]]) 13:58, June 29, 2024 (EDT)
-== Corrin's Blue alt ==
-I'm pretty sure Corrin's Blue alt is based on or resembles [https://fireemblem.fandom.com/wiki/Takumi Takumi] in Fire Emblem Fates. The colour scheme is pretty similar at least. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:LionCat79|LionCat79]] ([[User talk:LionCat79|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/LionCat79|contribs]]) 08:08, September 8, 2024 (EDT)</small>
-*I think Corrin’s hair being blue means that it’s likely just a blue alt rather than a reference to the character. [[File:ThegameandwatchIcon2.png|20px]] [[User:Thegameandwatch|<span style=" color: Green;">'''Thegameandwatch'''</span>]] [[File:Thegameandwatch signature icon.png|20px]] [[User talk:Thegameandwatch|''<span style="color: blue;">The Nerd </span>'']] 08:50, September 8, 2024 (EDT)
-== Pyra's 3rd alt inspiration  ==
-This page is protected, so I can't edit it. Could someone please add that Pyra's 3rd alternate costume may be based off of some concept art on the Xeno Series Wiki? The file is {{iw|xenoserieswiki|File:Pyra concept art 2.jpg}}. I believe that the alternate costume matches the gold/yellow outfit seen on that file specifically. Thanks! -- [[User:FanOfRosalina2007|FanOfRosalina2007]] ([[User talk:FanOfRosalina2007|talk]]) 17:07, September 13, 2024 (EDT)
-:Same for Mythra: {{iw|xenoserieswiki|File:Mythra concept art 2.jpg}}. It's the red one. Again, thanks! -- [[User:FanOfRosalina2007|FanOfRosalina2007]] ([[User talk:FanOfRosalina2007|talk]]) 17:17, September 13, 2024 (EDT)
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