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[[File:Ssb4stale.gif|thumb|350px|[[VyQ|vyQ]] playing as {{SSB4|Fox}} makes repeated use of his [[back aerial]], demonstrating the effect of stale-move negation. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wis_25jQeew] ]] | [[File:Ssb4stale.gif|thumb|350px|[[VyQ|vyQ]] playing as {{SSB4|Fox}} makes repeated use of his [[back aerial]], demonstrating the effect of stale-move negation. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wis_25jQeew] ]] | ||
'''Stale-move negation''' ({{ja|ワンパターン相殺|Wanpatān sōsai}}, ''One-pattern offsetting''), known as '''Repetition Effect''' in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' and '''Stale Moves''' in ''[[Ultimate]]'', is | '''Stale-move negation''' ({{ja|ワンパターン相殺|Wanpatān sōsai}}, ''One-pattern offsetting''), known as '''Repetition Effect''' in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]'' and '''Stale Moves''' in ''[[Ultimate]]'', is a gameplay element in all games in the ''{{b|Super Smash Bros.|series}}'' series. It refers to how moves cause less [[damage]] and [[knockback]] as they are used multiple times in a row. The strength of a move increases back to its regular power as other moves are used. Starting in ''Melee'', being [[KO]]'d resets the staleness of all of that player's moves. Moves not yet affected by stale-move negation are referred to as '''fresh'''. | ||
Moves are only affected by stale-move negation if they connect with an opponent or other object that can take damage, such as a [[crate]]. They also do not stale if they hit a [[shield]], except in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''. | Moves are only affected by stale-move negation if they connect with an opponent or other object that can take damage, such as a [[crate]]. They also do not stale if they hit a [[shield]], except in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''. | ||
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''Brawl:'' 0.1 + 0.09 + 0.05 = 0.24, the total damage is 76% of the base amount.<br> | ''Brawl:'' 0.1 + 0.09 + 0.05 = 0.24, the total damage is 76% of the base amount.<br> | ||
''SSB4:'' 0.08 + 0.07594 + 0.04462 = 0.20056, the total damage is 79.944% of the base amount.<br> | ''SSB4:'' 0.08 + 0.07594 + 0.04462 = 0.20056, the total damage is 79.944% of the base amount.<br> | ||
''Ultimate:'' 0.09 + 0.08545 + 0.05035 = 0.2258, the total damage is 77.42% of the base | ''Ultimate:'' 0.09 + 0.08545 + 0.05035 = 0.2258, the total damage is 77.42% of the base about. | ||
===Specifics in ''Melee''=== | ===Specifics in ''Melee''=== | ||
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===Specifics in ''[[Brawl]]''=== | ===Specifics in ''[[Brawl]]''=== | ||
Stale-move negation is not applied in any [[Mode#Solo|one-player]] modes except for the [[Home-Run Contest]] (including [[Training]], which initially confused those trying to test the effect); however, it is still present in the fights against | Stale-move negation is not applied in any [[Mode#Solo|one-player]] modes except for the [[Home-Run Contest]] (including [[Training]], which initially confused those trying to test the effect); however, it is still present in the fights against Toon Link, Jigglypuff, and Wolf in the [[Adventure Mode: The Subspace Emissary|Subspace Emissary]]. | ||
Unlike in ''Melee'', stale-move negation affects knockback calculations. Since the damage of a hitbox is a main component in the knockback formula, this results in significant knockback loss as an attack is staled. The damage required to KO as a move is staled rises well beyond the damage dealt by it; the effect is so severe that a move that would normally KO well under 150% fresh will be unable to KO at damages over 300% if fully staled. The effect it has on KO moves means players must actively preserve the use of their primary KO moves, especially if their character has limited KO options, or else they will find themselves unable to KO opponents if they repeatedly use their KO moves without effectively refreshing them with usage of other moves. For setup moves and [[chain throw]]s, the severe knockback reduction can be desirable, as it'll allow the moves to combo/chain well beyond what they normally would, and thus staling of these moves can be beneficial if exploited this way. | Unlike in ''Melee'', stale-move negation affects knockback calculations. Since the damage of a hitbox is a main component in the knockback formula, this results in significant knockback loss as an attack is staled. The damage required to KO as a move is staled rises well beyond the damage dealt by it; the effect is so severe that a move that would normally KO well under 150% fresh will be unable to KO at damages over 300% if fully staled. The effect it has on KO moves means players must actively preserve the use of their primary KO moves, especially if their character has limited KO options, or else they will find themselves unable to KO opponents if they repeatedly use their KO moves without effectively refreshing them with usage of other moves. For setup moves and [[chain throw]]s, the severe knockback reduction can be desirable, as it'll allow the moves to combo/chain well beyond what they normally would, and thus staling of these moves can be beneficial if exploited this way. |