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Omega Tyrant (talk | contribs) (Finally another newcomer, and what do you know, it's the Mario character I said was going to make it in while you guys on IRC went "Rosalina isn't getting in, why do you like her so much, it's going to be Bowser Jr." With that, I also now have the lead) |
Omega Tyrant (talk | contribs) (Now limiting new entries and increasing the penalty for changing a pick. Also locked Toad, Toadette, and Skull Kid picks, and clarified about characters "reasonably confirmed to not return''. Also using indeterminate symbol in the ballot charts now.) |
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*'''Disclaimer:''' This may or may not be a fair game, I cannot know. It's purely for fun. Try not to go all super-math minmax serious. | *'''Disclaimer:''' This may or may not be a fair game, I cannot know. It's purely for fun. Try not to go all super-math minmax serious. | ||
**Additionally, if you're an IP and you want to play, '''you must create an account so that your selections remain fully traceable back to you'''. | **Additionally, if you're an IP and you want to play, '''you must create an account so that your selections remain fully traceable back to you'''. | ||
*Players get | *<s>Players get 30 character selections.</s> This value may be decreased for potential new players as more and more characters are confirmed. | ||
*Choose a character for each selection, either the return of a veteran or a newcomer, '''who has not been confirmed yet''', that you think will make the playable roster in Smash 4. Additionally, you must '''make a minimum of 10 newcomer predictions'''. The inverse applies as well; ''' | **Any new entries at this point get '''25 character selections'''. All other rules still apply. | ||
*Choose a character for each selection, either the return of a veteran or a newcomer, '''who has not been confirmed yet''', that you think will make the playable roster in Smash 4. Additionally, you must '''make a minimum of 10 newcomer predictions'''. The inverse applies as well; <s>you can make no more than 20 newcomer predictions</s>. | |||
**Now you can '''make no more than 15 newcomer predictions'''. | |||
*If the character is confirmed or shows up playable in the final product, you will get points '''based on how common the pick was at the time of confirmation'''. Each correct pick will give a minimum point value of 1 (if everyone at the time picked it), with an additional point for each person that didn't pick the character. The accurate prediction of a newcomer will be worth double the points. The accurate prediction of a third party newcomer will be worth triple the points. | *If the character is confirmed or shows up playable in the final product, you will get points '''based on how common the pick was at the time of confirmation'''. Each correct pick will give a minimum point value of 1 (if everyone at the time picked it), with an additional point for each person that didn't pick the character. The accurate prediction of a newcomer will be worth double the points. The accurate prediction of a third party newcomer will be worth triple the points. | ||
**For bonus points, you can also predict if the character will have to be unlocked or will be a starter character. If you guess right, the points you get from that correct selection will increase 50%. If you guess wrong, the points you get will be decreased by 50%. The bonus value for this will be capped at 5 points. | **For bonus points, you can also predict if the character will have to be unlocked or will be a starter character. If you guess right, the points you get from that correct selection will increase 50%. If you guess wrong, the points you get will be decreased by 50%. The bonus value for this will be capped at 5 points. | ||
*You can change your selections at any time up until the full roster reveal. However, for each changed selection, | *You can change your selections at any time up until the full roster reveal. However, for each changed selection, <s>you will be penalised 1 point</s>. Also keep in mind '''I may set a deadline before the full roster reveal and lock any changes or new predictions from being made'''. | ||
**Penalty for changing a pick is '''now 2 points'''. | |||
**For one more note, if a character you selected gets confirmed, that selection is locked and you cannot change it. This also applies to any characters you selected that get confirmed to not be returning. | **For one more note, if a character you selected gets confirmed, that selection is locked and you cannot change it. This also applies to any characters you selected that get confirmed to not be returning. | ||
**You can however adjust your predicted unlocking status of any selection without incurring a penalty, as long as you don't overdo it. Once your selection gets confirmed however, your predicted unlocking status is locked. | **You can however adjust your predicted unlocking status of any selection without incurring a penalty, as long as you don't overdo it. Once your selection gets confirmed however, your predicted unlocking status is locked. | ||
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*Place returning veterans on top, and newcomers on the bottom. Additionally, try to organise by series. | *Place returning veterans on top, and newcomers on the bottom. Additionally, try to organise by series. | ||
*When a character is confirmed, they will be bolded on each ballot they're on. The unlocking status however, will not be bolded until that is confirmed as well, where correct predictions will then be bolded while incorrect predictions are struck out. | *When a character is confirmed, they will be bolded on each ballot they're on. The unlocking status however, will not be bolded until that is confirmed as well, where correct predictions will then be bolded while incorrect predictions are struck out. | ||
**Characters confirmed to not be playable or extremely likely to not be playable (whether being confirmed as an Assist Trophy or another ingame role that isn't playable, or being confirmed by Sakurai himself or by a credible leak) will be struck out, which also signifies the pick being locked. Of course they could very end up being a playable by the end where they will then be scored normally; this is just done to prevent people from changing their picks of such characters after such a confirmation. | |||
*It's recommended you update the selected characters tables in the next section as you submit a ballot, so they remain accurate. If you can't do it though without messing them up, wait and I or another user will update them. | *It's recommended you update the selected characters tables in the next section as you submit a ballot, so they remain accurate. If you can't do it though without messing them up, wait and I or another user will update them. | ||
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#Lucas(S) | #Lucas(S) | ||
#Mr. Game & Watch(U) | #Mr. Game & Watch(U) | ||
#Toad(S) | #<s>Toad (S)</s> | ||
#Toadette(U) | #<s>Toadette (U)</s> | ||
#Galacta Knight(U) | #Galacta Knight(U) | ||
#Masked Man(U) | #Masked Man(U) | ||
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#'''Sonic''' (U) | #'''Sonic''' (U) | ||
#Bowser Jr. (U) | #Bowser Jr. (U) | ||
#Toad (S) | #<s>Toad (S)</s> | ||
#Funky Kong (U) | #Funky Kong (U) | ||
#Waddle Dee (S) | #Waddle Dee (S) | ||
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#Mr. Game & Watch | #Mr. Game & Watch | ||
#Snake | #Snake | ||
#Skull Kid (Majora's Mask) | #<s>Skull Kid (Majora's Mask)</s> | ||
#Ridley | #Ridley | ||
#Krystal | #Krystal | ||
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| '''Peach''' || '''14/17''' || {{y}} ||'''4''' | | '''Peach''' || '''14/17''' || {{y}} ||'''4''' | ||
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| Diddy Kong || 15 || {{ | | Diddy Kong || 15 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Wario || 14 || {{ | | Wario || 14 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Yoshi || 15 || {{ | | Yoshi || 15 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Zelda || 13|| {{ | | Zelda || 13|| {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Sheik || 11 || {{ | | Sheik || 11 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ganondorf || 15 || {{ | | Ganondorf || 15 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| '''Toon Link || '''4/17''' || {{y}} || '''14''' | | '''Toon Link || '''4/17''' || {{y}} || '''14''' | ||
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| Zero Suit Samus || 10 || {{ | | Zero Suit Samus || 10 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ice Climbers || 9 || {{ | | Ice Climbers || 9 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| R.O.B. || 10 || {{ | | R.O.B. || 10 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Meta Knight || 14 || {{ | | Meta Knight || 14 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| King Dedede || 14 || {{ | | King Dedede || 14 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| '''Olimar''' || '''9/15''' || {{y}} || '''7''' | | '''Olimar''' || '''9/15''' || {{y}} || '''7''' | ||
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| Falco || 11 || {{ | | Falco || 11 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Wolf || 7 || {{ | | Wolf || 7 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Captain Falcon || 14 || {{ | | Captain Falcon || 14 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Pokemon Trainer (same trainer and mons) || 4 || {{ | | Pokemon Trainer (same trainer and mons) || 4 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Charizard (individually) || 1 || {{ | | Charizard (individually) || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Ivysaur (individually) || 0 || {{ | | Ivysaur (individually) || 0 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Squirtle (individually) || 0 || {{ | | Squirtle (individually) || 0 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Lucario || 5 || {{ | | Lucario || 5 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Jigglypuff || 13 || {{ | | Jigglypuff || 13 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| '''Marth''' || '''13/17''' || {{y}} || '''5''' | | '''Marth''' || '''13/17''' || {{y}} || '''5''' | ||
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| Ike || 9 || {{ | | Ike || 9 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ness || 14 || {{ | | Ness || 14 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Lucas || 10 || {{ | | Lucas || 10 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Mr. Game & Watch || 17 || {{ | | Mr. Game & Watch || 17 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Snake || 8 || {{ | | Snake || 8 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| '''Sonic''' || '''8/17''' || {{y}} || '''10''' | | '''Sonic''' || '''8/17''' || {{y}} || '''10''' | ||
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| '''Rosalina''' || '''4/18''' || {{Y}} || '''30''' | | '''Rosalina''' || '''4/18''' || {{Y}} || '''30''' | ||
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| Fawful || 2 || {{ | | Fawful || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Bowser Jr. || 10 || {{ | | Bowser Jr. || 10 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Paper Mario || 1 || {{ | | Paper Mario || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Daisy || 1 || {{ | | Daisy || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Birdo || 1 || {{ | | Birdo || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Waluigi || 3 || {{ | | Waluigi || 3 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Toad || 2 || {{n}} || | | <s>Toad</s> || 2/18 || {{n}} || 0 | ||
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| Toadette || 1 || {{n}} || | | <s>Toadette</s> || 1/18 || {{n}} || 0 | ||
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| Dixie Kong || 7 || {{ | | Dixie Kong || 7 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| King K. Rool || 6 || {{ | | King K. Rool || 6 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Funky Kong || 2 || {{ | | Funky Kong || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Kamek || 3 || {{ | | Kamek || 3 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Wolf Link || 1 || {{ | | Wolf Link || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Link (Majora's Mask) || 1 || {{ | | Link (Majora's Mask) || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Vaati || 3 || {{ | | Vaati || 3 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Koume & Kotake || 1 || {{ | | Koume & Kotake || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Groose || 1 || {{ | | Groose || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Young Link || 1 || {{ | | Young Link || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Retro Link || 1 || {{ | | Retro Link || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Skull Kid (Majora's Mask) || 1 || {{n}} || | | <s>Skull Kid (Majora's Mask)</s> || 1/18 || {{n}} || 0 | ||
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| Ridley || 8 || {{ | | Ridley || 8 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Adam Malkovich || 1 || {{ | | Adam Malkovich || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Dark Samus || 1 || {{ | | Dark Samus || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Anthony Higgs || 1 || {{ | | Anthony Higgs || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Palutena || 1 || {{ | | Palutena || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Medusa || 1 || {{ | | Medusa || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Magnus || 1 || {{ | | Magnus || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Viridi || 1 || {{ | | Viridi || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Magolor || 1 || {{ | | Magolor || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Galacta Knight || 1 || {{ | | Galacta Knight || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Waddle Dee || 1 || {{ | | Waddle Dee || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Waddle Doo || 1 || {{ | | Waddle Doo || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Krystal || 12 || {{ | | Krystal || 12 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Mewtwo || 15 || {{ | | Mewtwo || 15 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Zoroark || 10 || {{ | | Zoroark || 10 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Genesect || 1 || {{ | | Genesect || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Golem || 1 || {{ | | Golem || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Samurai Goroh|| 2 || {{ | | Samurai Goroh|| 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Black Shadow || 3 || {{ | | Black Shadow || 3 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Chrom || 11 || {{ | | Chrom || 11 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Lucina || 4 || {{ | | Lucina || 4 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Roy || 1 || {{ | | Roy || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Camus || 1 || {{ | | Camus || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Lyn || 1 || {{ | | Lyn || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ephraim || 1 || {{ | | Ephraim || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Claus || 3 || {{ | | Claus || 3 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Masked Man || 4 || {{ | | Masked Man || 4 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ninten || 1 || {{ | | Ninten || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Jeff || 1 || {{ | | Jeff || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Gray Fox || 1 || {{ | | Gray Fox || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Shadow || 4 || {{ | | Shadow || 4 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Tails || 2 || {{ | | Tails || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Knuckles || 1 || {{ | | Knuckles || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Mii || 3 || {{ | | Mii || 3 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Little Mac || 12 || {{ | | Little Mac || 12 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Mr. Sandman || 1 || {{ | | Mr. Sandman || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Takamaru || 4 || {{ | | Takamaru || 4 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ryota Hayami || 1 || {{ | | Ryota Hayami || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Isaac || 9 || {{ | | Isaac || 9 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Matthew || 1 || {{ | | Matthew || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Felix || 1 || {{ | | Felix || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Andy || 1 || {{ | | Andy || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ray Mk III || 2 || {{ | | Ray Mk III || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Saki Amamiya || 1 || {{ | | Saki Amamiya || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Isa Jo || 1 || {{ | | Isa Jo || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Chibi-Robo || 1 || {{ | | Chibi-Robo || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Zero || 1 || {{ | | Zero || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Pac-Man || 4 || {{ | | Pac-Man || 4 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Simon Belmont || 2 || {{ | | Simon Belmont || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Lloyd Irving || 3 || {{ | | Lloyd Irving || 3 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Shulk || 2 || {{ | | Shulk || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Sora || 2 || {{ | | Sora || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Geno || 2 || {{ | | Geno || 2 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Terra Branford || 1 || {{ | | Terra Branford || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Zhao Yun || 1 || {{ | | Zhao Yun || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Yukimura Sanada || 1 || {{ | | Yukimura Sanada || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Bayonetta || 1 || {{ | | Bayonetta || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Professor Layton || 1 || {{ | | Professor Layton || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Chrono || 1 || {{ | | Chrono || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| The Main Protagonist of X (Monolith Soft) || 1 || {{ | | The Main Protagonist of X (Monolith Soft) || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Heavy Weapons Guy || 1 || {{ | | Heavy Weapons Guy || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Phoenix Wright || 1 || {{ | | Phoenix Wright || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Jin Kazama || 1 || {{ | | Jin Kazama || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Ivy || 1 || {{ | | Ivy || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Cervantes || 1 || {{ | | Cervantes || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Headdy || 1 || {{ | | Headdy || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Bomberman || 1 || {{ | | Bomberman || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Black Mage || 1 || {{ | | Black Mage || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| White Mage || 1 || {{ | | White Mage || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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| Wonder Red || 1 || {{ | | Wonder Red || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || | ||
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! Character || Number of selections || Confirmed || Point value | ! Character || Number of selections || Confirmed || Point value | ||
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| <big><big><big>'''<span style="color:GOLD;">GOKU</span>'''</big></big></big> || 1 || {{ | | <big><big><big>'''<span style="color:GOLD;">GOKU</span>'''</big></big></big> || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || 9001 | ||
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| <big><big><big>'''<span style="color:gold;">STARBAN</span>'''</big></big></big> || 1 || {{ | | <big><big><big>'''<span style="color:gold;">STARBAN</span>'''</big></big></big> || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || ∞ | ||
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| <big><big><big>'''<span style="color:red;">REGGIE FILS-AIME</span>'''</big></big></big> || 1 || {{ | | <big><big><big>'''<span style="color:red;">REGGIE FILS-AIME</span>'''</big></big></big> || 1 || {{Indeterminate}} || Your score is not ready | ||
|} | |} | ||