User talk:Miles of SmashWiki/Ordering: Difference between revisions

:I know this hasn't been active in 6 years, but I thought I would throw my hat into the ring. I agree with Miles with having every series and fighter be organized by their ''Smash'' debut, but I think they should be organized by playable reveals, regardless of their availability. For example, I think that Lucina should be placed before Robin due to her splash card being shown first in their reveals. ''Wii Fit'' could also be placed before ''Punch-Out!!'' since the Wii Fit Trainer was revealed to be playable before Little Mac. I know Little Mac was an Assist Trophy in ''Brawl'', but the game doesn't even count it as an actual universe since ''Punch-Out!!'' didn't have a series symbol in ''Brawl''. ''Yoshi'' could be placed in between ''Metroid'' and ''Kirby'' like in the games, unless placing him with the ''Mario'' series looks nicer (i.e. In a character table to prevent a character from a series with multiple veterans getting cut off from the rest). ''F-Zero'' and ''EarthBound'' are a sticky situation as ''Smash'' consistently places ''F-Zero'' before ''EarthBound'', but ''Ultimate''{{'}}s fighter numbers place Ness before Captain Falcon. If I would have to choose, I would keep ''F-Zero'' before ''EarthBound'' as even ''Ultimate''{{'}}s stage selection screen and sound test still order it like this. Other than that, I feel the fighters should be ordered by their fighter numbers (minus Ness, Captain Falcon, and Echo Fighters) as they pertain to their playable debuts in ''Smash''. Yes, even having Sheik placed before Zelda as Zelda was the only starter character in ''Melee'' who wasn't revealed to be playable at E3 2001. [[User:Diddy Kongstar|Diddy Kongstar]] ([[User talk:Diddy Kongstar|talk]]) 01:04, April 13, 2021 (EDT)

: I 100% agree that Lucina should be before Robin (mostly because even Lucina's SSB4 trophy and Mario Maker costume are listed before Robin's, as well as her being the only first-party unlockable to be revealed before launch before unlockable characters stopped being kept a secret) and Wii Fit before Little Mac (since the time frame between their reveals was months, not minutes), and do think Miles is being far too adamant about keeping the ordering his way to the point where both you and him start edit warring, especially considering Miles has been making similar changes like this for years according to the page history, but I disagree with the rest of your proposed changes. Despite Ultimate listing Ness before Captain Falcon, the stage and music selections in evey game, including in Ultimate, lists F-Zero before Earthbound. Although Yoshi is counted as its own series in Smash, the games literally feature the same characters, so they're not really different enough to be so spread out on the wiki tables. Sheik was revealed before Zelda, but Melee and Brawl consider Zelda the default despite her later reveal, so logically the default should be listed first, even if she was technically revealed later. Mewtwo was developed before Pichu both in Pokemon and in Smash due to Pichu being a clone, and putting Young Link after Ganondorf lets Young Link be next to Toon Link. It's unconstructive that the two of you edit warred, and if either of you wants to change it, it would be beneficial to discuss it with either a third party (which I have already given my opinion for a compromise), each other, or both. [[Special:Contributions/72.219.72.215|72.219.72.215]] 20:03, April 13, 2021 (EDT)

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