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#: If they cause lag on mobile, there's an easy solution to that: don't visit them on mobile, nobody's forcing you to visit the page or anything, and they work perfectly fine on desktop. The purpose of the hitbox collections is to show the hitboxes, if people want detailed information we could simply link the move names column to the move subpages for a detailed breakdown, no complicated transclusions necessary. Finally, it's useful for exactly that purpose, for viewing all of the moves on a convenient page instead of having to manually pull up every single attack you want to see (surprisingly enough, many people want to see ''all'' of the hitboxes for their main, as they plan on using more than 1 move for the entire match :p). ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 15:58, 30 November 2018 (EST)
#: If they cause lag on mobile, there's an easy solution to that: don't visit them on mobile, nobody's forcing you to visit the page or anything, and they work perfectly fine on desktop. The purpose of the hitbox collections is to show the hitboxes, if people want detailed information we could simply link the move names column to the move subpages for a detailed breakdown, no complicated transclusions necessary. Finally, it's useful for exactly that purpose, for viewing all of the moves on a convenient page instead of having to manually pull up every single attack you want to see (surprisingly enough, many people want to see ''all'' of the hitboxes for their main, as they plan on using more than 1 move for the entire match :p). ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 15:58, 30 November 2018 (EST)
#::The reason I am bringing up the transclusions is keeping the information up-to-date. As it currently stands, any edit on one would require an edit on another to make them contain the same information. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 16:01, 30 November 2018 (EST)
#::The reason I am bringing up the transclusions is keeping the information up-to-date. As it currently stands, any edit on one would require an edit on another to make them contain the same information. [[User:DekZek|<font color="MidnightBlue">'''Dek'''</font><font color="Blue">'''Zek'''</font>]] [[File:Dekzeksig.png|20px|link=User talk:DekZek]] 16:01, 30 November 2018 (EST)
 
#:::Not really. The only variable is the images, and they themselves are transclusions. Just reuoad them with the same name, no further action needed. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 16:03, 30 November 2018 (EST)
==Oppose==
==Oppose==
#'''Oppose,''' to say that the move subpages make these hitbox collections obsolete is frankly absurd. Generally speaking, when people want to see hitboxes for their main, they will try and find all hitboxes for their character, both for the sake of convenience and for making sure they don't miss any. A quick check on Google demonstrates this; searches like "Mario hitboxes smash 4" are far more likely to appear as search suggestions than searches like "Super Jump Punch hitbox smash 4", which is reflective of what people tend to look for, and the role of SmashWiki is to provide people with information on Super Smash Bros. content in a clear and organized manner. But beyond this, expecting people to have to manually go through multiple, or potentially all of, the move subpage for their character in order to view all of the moves they are interested in viewing hitboxes for is in my opinion simply a foolish idea. These pages very much do have a use, I know I certainly use them, and the example I gave above demonstrates that other people would also make use of them. So as a result I am strongly against the deletion of these pages. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 14:48, 30 November 2018 (EST)
#'''Oppose,''' to say that the move subpages make these hitbox collections obsolete is frankly absurd. Generally speaking, when people want to see hitboxes for their main, they will try and find all hitboxes for their character, both for the sake of convenience and for making sure they don't miss any. A quick check on Google demonstrates this; searches like "Mario hitboxes smash 4" are far more likely to appear as search suggestions than searches like "Super Jump Punch hitbox smash 4", which is reflective of what people tend to look for, and the role of SmashWiki is to provide people with information on Super Smash Bros. content in a clear and organized manner. But beyond this, expecting people to have to manually go through multiple, or potentially all of, the move subpage for their character in order to view all of the moves they are interested in viewing hitboxes for is in my opinion simply a foolish idea. These pages very much do have a use, I know I certainly use them, and the example I gave above demonstrates that other people would also make use of them. So as a result I am strongly against the deletion of these pages. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 14:48, 30 November 2018 (EST)