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Overall, Sonic still retains many of his powerful attributes and combo game, though several of his most powerful tools from ''SSB4'' have either been worsened or removed altogether and his worse endurance has given him a newly defined weakness. This has lead to a less oppressive and polarized character, his playstyle shifting into a more offensive and creative one than before where Sonic now makes greater use of his standard moveset and newly buffed Homing Attack instead of relying on Spin Dash and Spin Charge to compensate for his underwhelming attacks, and must now take advantage of ''Ultimate's'' reworked mechanics, which have proven to be extremely benefitial to him. In the end, Sonic has retained his viability in competitive play, and given the nerfs to the previous game's top tiers and in spite of the introduction of powerful DLC characters in game updates, he performs better relative to the cast than he did in ''SSB4''. | Overall, Sonic still retains many of his powerful attributes and combo game, though several of his most powerful tools from ''SSB4'' have either been worsened or removed altogether and his worse endurance has given him a newly defined weakness. This has lead to a less oppressive and polarized character, his playstyle shifting into a more offensive and creative one than before where Sonic now makes greater use of his standard moveset and newly buffed Homing Attack instead of relying on Spin Dash and Spin Charge to compensate for his underwhelming attacks, and must now take advantage of ''Ultimate's'' reworked mechanics, which have proven to be extremely benefitial to him. In the end, Sonic has retained his viability in competitive play, and given the nerfs to the previous game's top tiers and in spite of the introduction of powerful DLC characters in game updates, he performs better relative to the cast than he did in ''SSB4''. | ||
{{ | ===Aesthetics=== | ||
*{{change|As with all [[veteran]]s returning from ''Smash 4'', Sonic's model features a more subdued color scheme. His fur is now lightly detailed, similar to other furry characters.}} | |||
*{{change|Sonic is much more expressive than in Smash 4, as he now has a sly grin while dashing and now frowns when using his up tilt, [[forward smash]], [[forward throw]], and when shielding. His eyes are also slightly more emotive. However, he still isn't as expressive as in ''Brawl'', such as not looking impatient during his foot-tapping idle animation and not grinning while waving his finger.}} | |||
*{{change|Sonic's head quills bounce and move around more, resembling how their movement was in ''Brawl''.}} | |||
*{{change|Sonic now grins during his running [[victory pose]] instead of smirking, like in ''Brawl''.}} | |||
*{{change|One of Sonic's [[victory animation]]s, where he grabs a Chaos Emerald, now has him running up to the Emerald before grabbing it.}} | |||
*{{change|Sonic's mouth now looks more natural and faithful to his normal appearances in all his victory poses than in the Wii U version of ''Smash 4''.}} | |||
===Attributes=== | |||
*{{buff|Like all characters, Sonic's [[jumpsquat]] animation now takes 3 frames to complete (down from 5).}} | |||
*{{buff|Sonic [[walk]]s faster (1.375 → 1.444).}} | |||
*{{buff|Sonic [[run]]s faster (3.5 → 3.85).}} | |||
**{{buff|Sonic's initial [[dash]] is significantly faster (1.5 → 2.31), now being the 3rd fastest.}} | |||
*{{buff|Sonic's [[traction]] has been massively increased (0.06 → 0.138), now being the highest in the entire game. This makes it much easier for him to punish [[out of shield]].}} | |||
*{{buff|Sonic's [[air speed]] is faster (1.15 → 1.208).}} | |||
*{{change|Sonic [[falling speed|falls]] faster (1.45 → 1.65).}} | |||
*{{buff|Sonic's [[fast-fall]] is faster (2.32 → 2.64). This improves his air mobility and makes him less susceptible to juggles.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Sonic is considerably lighter (94 → 86), now making him a lightweight instead of a middleweight, weighing slightly more than {{SSBU|Zelda}} and being lighter than {{SSBU|Little Mac}}, worsening his endurance. While this change would make him less susceptible to combos, this is prevented by his faster fall speed.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Forward [[roll]] grants less [[intangibility]] (frames 4-15 → 4-14) and has more ending lag ([[FAF]] 28 → 29).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Back roll has more ending lag (FAF 28 → 34).}} | |||
*{{nerf|[[Spot dodge]] has more startup (frame 2 → 3).}} | |||
*{{buff|[[Air dodge]] grants more intangibility (frames 2-25 → 2-26).}} | |||
*{{nerf|Air dodge has significantly more ending lag (FAF 31 → 51).}} | |||
*{{buff|The reintroduction of directional air dodges improves Sonic's recovery more than other characters', as due to Spring Jump not causing [[helplessness]], he can get additional distance with a directional air dodge after using it.}} | |||
*{{nerf|Sonic now takes a slight amount of damage per second when [[swimming]]. He shares this trait with {{SSBU|Charizard}}, {{SSBU|Inkling}}, and {{SSBU|Incineroar}}.}} | |||
**{{change|His swimming animation is also changed, showing him constantly in a panicked state (as opposed to only being in one when drowning).}} | |||
===Ground attacks=== | |||
*[[Neutral attack]]: | |||
**{{buff|The first and second hits have different angles to keep opponents closer to Sonic (hit 1: 92°/60°/[[361]]° → 361°/180°, hit 2: 80°/60°/48° → 361°), akin to other neutral attacks, and deal less knockback (18 [[set knockback|set]]/100 scaling → 20 base/20/15 scaling (hit 1), 20/15 base/20 scaling (hit 2)), but inflict additional frames of [[hitstun]] (0 → 8 (hit 1), 4 (hit 2)). This allows them to connect more reliably, and the second hit to [[lock]] opponents.}} | |||
**{{buff|Consecutive uses of the first hit are faster (13 → 10 frames).}} | |||
**{{buff|The first hit transitions faster into the second hit (frame 9 → 7), which transitions faster into the third hit (frame 8 → 6).}} | |||
**{{buff|The third hit launches at a lower angle (50° → 361°), allowing it to force opponents offstage more effectively and set up [[tech-chase]]s.}} | |||
**{{nerf|All hits have a higher [[hitlag]] multiplier (1× → 1.6× (hit 1), 1.2× (hit 2), 2× (hit 3)), giving opponents more time to [[SDI]] each hit and [[DI]] the last hit.}} | |||
**{{nerf|The first hit has had its three large hitboxes replaced with four smaller ones (3u/3.5u/4u → 1.4u/1.4u/1.6u/1.6u). The second and third hits have smaller hitboxes as well (4u/3.4u/3u → 2.3u/2.3u/2.8u (hit 2), 3u/3.5u/5u → 2.6u/2.6u/3.6u (hit 3)).}} | |||
**{{nerf|The second hit deals less damage (2% → 1.5%).}} | |||
**{{nerf|The third hit has a shorter hitbox duration (frames 4-6 → 4-5).}} | |||
**{{change|The third hit has a slightly different animation.}} | |||
*[[Forward tilt]]: | |||
**{{buff|The first hit has drastically reduced knockback scaling, but increased base knockback (60 (base)/70 (scaling) → 80/3) and has been moved farther from Sonic (Z offset: -1.6u → -0.7), allowing it to connect into the second hit more reliably.}} | |||
**{{buff|The second hit's outermost hitbox has been moved further outwards (X offset: 4.9 → 6) improving its range.}} | |||
*[[Up tilt]] | |||
**{{buff|Both hits of up tilt have less startup lag (frame 7 → 6 (hit 1), frame 18 → 13 (hit 2)).}} | |||
***{{nerf|However, its total duration remains unchanged, giving it more ending lag. This completely removes its combo potential.}} | |||
**{{change|The first hit's late portion no longer uses the [[autolink angle]] (365° → 95°).}} | |||
**{{nerf|The first active hitbox is slightly smaller (5.5u → 5.2u).}} | |||
*[[Down tilt]]: | |||
**{{buff|Down tilt launches at a more upward angle (361° → 73°) and deals much more knockback (30 base/80 scaling → 40/100), improving its combo potential.}} | |||
**{{buff|It returns Sonic to his original position after kicking, rather than moving him forward, making it safer to use for [[spacing]].}} | |||
*[[Dash attack]]: | |||
**{{change|Dash attack has been changed to only consist of a lunge kick, with the Spin Attack portion beforehand being removed. As a result, it no longer hits multiple times, although its total damage remains intact (1% (hits 1-3), 3% (hit 4) → 6% (clean)). It also deals less knockback to compensate for the single hit's greater damage relative to the previous version's final hit (80 base/125 scaling → 88/80 (clean), 93/80 (late)).}} | |||
**{{buff|It has much less ending lag (FAF 62 → 50).}} | |||
**{{buff|The late hit has gained a [[shieldstun]] multiplier of 1.57×. Combined with its reduced ending lag and the increased shieldstun for ground attacks, this makes it safer on shield.}} | |||
**{{nerf|It launches at a lower angle (70° → 60°), hindering its KO potential.}} | |||
*[[Forward smash]]: | |||
**{{buff|Sonic's arm stretches out further during the punch, improving its range.}} | |||
*[[Up smash]]: | |||
**{{buff|Up smash has less startup lag (frame 19 → 18).}} | |||
***{{nerf|However, its total duration remains unchanged, giving it more ending lag.}} | |||
**{{buff|Up smash's looping hits are larger (4u/4u/4u/4u → 4.2u/4.2u/4u/4u), slightly improving its range.}} | |||
**{{buff|The first hit launches opponents towards Sonic (90° → 95°), while the looping hits have a lower [[SDI]] multiplier (0.6× → 0.5×), and both use [[weight-independent]] knockback, allowing them to connect more reliably.}} | |||
**{{buff|The last hit has increased knockback scaling (165 → 170), improving its KO potential.}} | |||
*[[Down smash]]: | |||
**{{buff|Down smash's front hit deals much more knockback (55 base/63 scaling → 50/80), matching the strength of the back hit.}} | |||
===Aerial attacks=== | |||
*{{buff|All aerials have less landing lag (16 frames → 10 (neutral), 26 → 16 (forward), 30 → 15 (back), 21 → 13 (up), 38 → 21 (down)).}} | |||
*[[Forward aerial]]: | |||
**{{buff|Forward aerial's multi-hits consist of one large hitbox instead of four smaller ones (2u → 5.5u), which uses the autolink angle (130°/60°/200°/340° → 367°) and has more set knockback (30 → 40), allowing them to connect more reliably. They also have a lower hitlag multiplier (1× → 0.7×), making them harder to SDI out of.}} | |||
*[[Back aerial]]: | |||
**{{nerf|Back aerial's late hit has much less knockback scaling (100 → 76), significantly hindering its KO potential.}} | |||
*[[Up aerial]]: | |||
**{{nerf|Up aerial's first hit has much less knockback scaling (100 → 50) and launches at different angles (100°/118° → 110°/123°). As a result, its knockback fails to follow Sonic's vertical momentum when used in a jump, worsening its linking ability into the second hit.}} | |||
**{{buff|The second hit deals more damage (6% → 8%), with knockback scaling compensated (82 → 68).}} | |||
*[[Down aerial]]: | |||
**{{change|Down aerial only possesses a clean hit and late hit, with the early hit being removed (frames 17-18/19-22/23-32 → 17-19/20-32).}} | |||
***{{buff|Its [[meteor smash]] hitbox is slightly larger (3.5u → 3.6u).}} | |||
***{{buff|This allows for the aerial [[meteor smash]] to be landed much more easily.}} | |||
***{{nerf|However, this reduces the clean hit's duration against grounded opponents.}} | |||
**{{buff|The late hit deals more knockback (80 base/70 scaling → 75/80).}} | |||
**{{nerf|The late hit has gained a sourspot that deals less damage (7% → 5%) without compensation on knockback.}} | |||
===Throws and other attacks=== | |||
*[[Grab]]s: | |||
**{{nerf|All grabs have more ending lag (FAF 31 → 38 (standing), 38 → 48 (dash), 37 → 40 (pivot)).}} | |||
**{{nerf|Standing and pivot grab have slightly more startup lag (frame 6 → 7 (standing), frame 10 → 11 (pivot)).}} | |||
**{{nerf|Standing and dash grab have less range (Z2 offset: 9.7u → 8.7u (standing), 11.1u → 10.4u (dash)).}} | |||
*[[Pummel]]: | |||
**{{nerf|It deals less damage (2% → 1.3%).}} | |||
**{{change|It deals more hitlag (4 frames → 14), but has much less startup (frame 4 → 1) and ending lag (FAF 16 → 7).}} | |||
**{{change|It has a slightly different animation.}} | |||
*[[Forward throw]]: | |||
**{{buff|Forward throw sends opponents at a more horizontal angle that is desirable for edgeguarding (70° → 45°).}} | |||
**{{nerf|It releases opponents faster (frame 12 → 11), but with its total duration unchanged, increasing its ending lag.}} | |||
**{{nerf|It has significantly less knockback scaling (100 → 75), no longer KOing at high percents.}} | |||
*[[Up throw]]: | |||
**{{nerf|Up throw releases opponents faster (frame 28 → 23), but with its total duration unchanged, increasing its ending lag. This reduces its combo potential, despite Sonic's faster jumpsquat and jump speed, and in combination with the faster knockback physics, it severely worsens Spring Jump-assisted followups, no longer being guaranteed.}} | |||
*[[Down throw]]: | |||
**{{buff|Down throw's release deals more damage (4% → 5%), with its base knockback compensated (80 → 75).}} | |||
*[[Edge attack]]: | |||
**{{buff|Edge attack deals more damage (7% → 9%).}} | |||
===Special moves=== | |||
*[[Homing Attack]]: | |||
**{{buff|Homing Attack can be charged for much longer, with Sonic ascending much higher during the charge (frames 22-34 → frames 15-82).}} | |||
***{{buff|It has less startup when uncharged (frame 22 → 15), allowing it to be comboed into from other moves.}} | |||
**{{buff|It deals more damage especially when charged (5%-12% → 7%-20%), with knockback not fully compensated (45 base/90 scaling → 55/65), improving its KO potential at high charge levels.}} | |||
**{{buff|It launches Sonic at a straighter trajectory towards opponents, improving its accuracy.}} | |||
**{{buff|It incurs less ending lag upon hitting an opponent (FAF 32 → 27), allowing it to combo into other moves at certain percentages.}} | |||
**{{buff|It has larger hitboxes (3.5u/3.5u → 5u/5u).}} | |||
**{{nerf|It has gained a shieldstun multiplier of 0.5×, thus dealing less shieldstun than in ''Smash 4'', despite it being increased for moves other than smash attacks and aerials. This makes it relatively less safe on shields.}} | |||
**{{change|It launches at a slightly lower angle (55° → 53°).}} | |||
**{{change|The move shows a reticle on the opponent right before Sonic is about to strike, as in games from ''Sonic and the Secret Rings'' onward. The reticle most closely resembles its design in ''Sonic Colors''.}} | |||
*[[Spin Dash]]: | |||
**{{buff|A grounded charged Spin Dash can be released in the air while keeping its charge.}} | |||
**{{buff|The first jump hit deals slightly more damage (4% → 5%) and has a bigger hitbox (2u → 3u).}} | |||
**{{nerf|Its charge can no longer be canceled by shielding, removing its usefulness for faking out approaches.}} | |||
**{{nerf|It can no longer be held indefinitely, instead being unleashed automatically if charged for more than two seconds. However, this can be somewhat circumvented by starting the move on the ground, then jumping out of it and charging it in the air, in which case the automatic release does not happen until Sonic lands.}} | |||
**{{nerf|The move stops upon hitting an opponent's shield, and cannot [[cross up]] unless it is charged enough, reducing its safety.}} | |||
**{{change|The aura when charging is now more opaque, starting at blue and going to a solid yellow at full charge.}} | |||
**{{change|Sonic does not hop if the move is released at full charge.}} | |||
**{{bugfix|Sonic no longer loses his double jump after landing with an aerial Spin Dash or [[Spin Charge]].}} | |||
*[[Spring Jump]]: | |||
**{{buff|Sonic gains slightly more vertical height from Spring Jump, matching the move's vertical height from ''Brawl''.}} | |||
**{{nerf|The aerial version's Spring launches opponents at a higher angle (361° → 48°), hindering its edgeguarding ability.}} | |||
**{{nerf|It grants significantly less intangibility (frames 5-13 → 5-7), leaving Sonic more vulnerable to edgeguards.}} | |||
**{{nerf|Using the move incurs 10 frames of landing lag.}} | |||
**{{bugfix|Grabbing onto a {{b|ladder|stage element}} no longer causes Sonic to become helpless whenever he lets go or falls after climbing to the top.}} | |||
*[[Spin Charge]]: | |||
**{{buff|Spin Charge's hits launch at a more horizontal angle (60° → 9°), and have more base knockback (40 → 70), but drastically less knockback scaling (60 → 15), as well as lower hitlag and SDI multipliers (1× → 0.5×). This allows them to connect much more reliably.}} | |||
**{{nerf|It can no longer be held indefinitely, instead being unleashed automatically if charged for more than three seconds.}} | |||
**{{nerf|Like the Spin Dash, it stops upon hitting an opponent's shield, and cannot cross up unless it is charged enough, reducing its safety.}} | |||
**{{change|The charging and dash trail aura are now more solid and opaque and now yellow as opposed to purple in WiiU, sharing these similarities along with starting at blue and turning more yellow the more the move is charged along with Spin Dash.}} | |||
*[[Super Sonic]]: | |||
**{{change|Super Sonic's functionality has been changed. Instead of being fully controllable, he moves automatically across the horizontal axis at a drastically increased speed, and only his vertical position can be controlled.}} | |||
**{{buff|When reverting from Super Sonic, Sonic deals damage and knockback if he makes contact with opponents while flying back to his starting point.}} | |||
**{{nerf|Super Sonic's damage output is significantly weaker than its previous iterations, and it lasts for a much shorter time period. The more limited controls also make it less possible for him to secure an early KO.}} | |||
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