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::The "best of their main" criteria in the definition has implications.  If it were meant to only include top tiers then the criteria would not have implication and thus wouldn't be there.  There is no ''argument from ignorance'' there.  The argument from ignorance shows up when you try to imply that because no low tier player examples are given it means that low tiers are not included in the definition. [[Special:Contributions/107.222.230.173|107.222.230.173]] 07:48, 16 November 2015 (EST)
::The "best of their main" criteria in the definition has implications.  If it were meant to only include top tiers then the criteria would not have implication and thus wouldn't be there.  There is no ''argument from ignorance'' there.  The argument from ignorance shows up when you try to imply that because no low tier player examples are given it means that low tiers are not included in the definition. [[Special:Contributions/107.222.230.173|107.222.230.173]] 07:48, 16 November 2015 (EST)
:::First thing's first... your "implications" argument is a [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deductive_fallacy deductive fallacy]; there's no proof that there were any "implications". Secondly, I feel as if you've misunderstood something. I never said the words "only top tiers are included" or that "all players who use low tiers are excluded"; I said "lack of clarification is not the same as 'the best character of this low tier is a top professional'".
:::I feel as if you've misunderstood something. I never said the words "only top tiers are included" or that "all players who use low tiers are excluded"; I said "lack of clarification is not the same as 'the best character of this low tier is a top professional'".
:::1. I already gave the example of {{Sm|Josuke}} from Japan being listed, who wins the majority of national ''Smash 64'' tournaments over there with {{SSB|Samus}} (who is officially ranked as a "low tier").
:::1. I already gave the example of {{Sm|Josuke}} from Japan being listed, who wins the majority of national ''Smash 64'' tournaments over there with {{SSB|Samus}} (who is officially ranked as a "low tier").
:::2. There have been players who have found national success with mid tiers, such as {{Sm|Axe}} ({{SSBM|Pikachu}}), {{Sm|Shroomed}} ({{SSBM|Dr. Mario}}, although he has since switched to {{SSBM|Sheik}}), {{Sm|Plup}} ({{SSBM|Samus}}, who he sometimes uses as a counterpick even though he mains Sheik now), and {{Sm|Abate}} ({{SSBM|Luigi}}).
:::2. There have been players who have found national success with mid tiers, such as {{Sm|Axe}} ({{SSBM|Pikachu}}), {{Sm|Shroomed}} ({{SSBM|Dr. Mario}}, although he has since switched to {{SSBM|Sheik}}), {{Sm|Plup}} ({{SSBM|Samus}}, who he sometimes uses as a counterpick even though he mains Sheik now), and {{Sm|Abate}} ({{SSBM|Luigi}}).

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