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::::::::Isai has never explicitly referred to any of his "favorite characters" as his mains, though. He goes different characters at every national, almost never the same ones. Also, if we want to talk "favorites", he also listed Fox (which is known to be one of his best characters) and Donkey Kong, and he hasn't used either of those characters at [[GENESIS 2]], [[Apex 2012]], [[Apex 2013]], or [[Apex 2014]]. I could see where you're coming from normally, but ''Smash 64'' has relatively few tournaments in comparison to ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'' (especially ''Melee'', with ''Brawl'' having declined since Apex 2014) and we barely ever hear of Isai playing at locals. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
::::::::Isai has never explicitly referred to any of his "favorite characters" as his mains, though. He goes different characters at every national, almost never the same ones. Also, if we want to talk "favorites", he also listed Fox (which is known to be one of his best characters) and Donkey Kong, and he hasn't used either of those characters at [[GENESIS 2]], [[Apex 2012]], [[Apex 2013]], or [[Apex 2014]]. I could see where you're coming from normally, but ''Smash 64'' has relatively few tournaments in comparison to ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'' (especially ''Melee'', with ''Brawl'' having declined since Apex 2014) and we barely ever hear of Isai playing at locals. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:14, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::"Favorite" implies usage, though, and like I said, we ''have'' seen Isai use some of the characters from his list in tournaments. Even if he's using different characters at every national, they're still all characters he's described as his "favorite." That's a fair point about Isai not participate in locals often, but not good enough to warrant writing off any character he uses that isn't named Pikachu as a "sandbagging character." <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 22:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::"Favorite" implies usage, though, and like I said, we ''have'' seen Isai use some of the characters from his list in tournaments. Even if he's using different characters at every national, they're still all characters he's described as his "favorite." That's a fair point about Isai not participate in locals often, but not good enough to warrant writing off any character he uses that isn't named Pikachu as a "sandbagging character." <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 22:30, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::I'm not claiming that Isai not using Pikachu means he's "sandbagging" (that's not really the argument I was trying to make), but I do think that Pikachu should remain in the main slot unless future tournaments prove otherwise. We still have relatively few ''Smash 64'' nationals and the closest upcoming one is [[Zenith 2014]] and Isai did say that he would use Pikachu and Kirby if he went (and considering he said it was to "make sure CT has a good placing", I don't think listing them in "Other" does them justice). Note that he also said the same thing about using Jigglypuff at [[Apex 2014]] and kept his promise. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:42, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
::::::::::I'm not claiming that Isai not using Pikachu means he's "sandbagging" (that's not really the argument I was trying to make), but I do think that Pikachu should remain in the main slot unless future tournaments prove otherwise. We still have relatively few ''Smash 64'' nationals and the closest upcoming one is [[Zenith 2014]] and Isai did say that he would use Pikachu and Kirby if he went. Note that he also said the same thing about using Jigglypuff at [[Apex 2014]] and kept his promise. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 22:42, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
:::::::::::Well, at the very least, Luigi and Jigglypuff should be listed as mains, since he's used them on more than one occasion (GENESIS 2 for both, Apex 2012 doubles for Luigi, and Apex 2014 for Jigglypuff). Also, try to use the preview button more in the future. Despite making only four comments, you've made more than twice that amount in edits to this talk page (10 to be exact). <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#00008B">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 22:56, 18 July 2014 (EDT)
 
For the record, I asked him directly about playing with mario and jiggs at apex and he said, "never have sandbagged in my life"; I have the facebook chat to prove it. [[User:Herbert Von Karajan|Herbert Von Karajan]] ([[User talk:Herbert Von Karajan|talk]]) 00:02, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
:Print screen it and then show it here. The most we could do with that info is add Mario (and Link) under "other SSB characters". DK, Fox, and Yoshi will have to be mentioned in the trivia section or the introduction paragraph, because he's only used them in friendlies as far as I know. <font face="X-Files">[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:#0000a5">Ninjakoopa</span>]]</font> 00:29, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
:Isai was notorious for sandbagging in ''Melee''. If you only mean ''Smash 64'', then yeah, I can believe you. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 17:21, 22 July 2014 (EDT)
 
[http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html Red herring? Red herring.] Please continue this discussion on the talk page for {{s|Talk|Smasher}}.<font face="sand">[[User:Qwerty|<font color="#04FE6D">Qwerty</font>]] [[User talk:Qwerty|<font color="#66CC2A">da</font>]] [[Special:Logout|<font color="#08CFCC">beast</font>]]</font> [[File:Nessytrewq.jpg|16px]]  01:18, 20 July 2014 (EDT)
 
== best player ever ==
Isai recently got 4th at [[Genesis 3]] even while using Pikachu/Fox! So i doubt that everyone considers him the "undisputed" best player ever. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Raize|Raize]] ([[User talk:Raize|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Raize|contribs]]) {{{2}}}</small>
:In terms of right now, the best player is probably {{Sm|wario}}. However, Isai is definitely the "greatest of all time" when it comes to Smash 64. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 00:38, 22 January 2016 (EST)
::Well he did clearly forfeit the last game against Wangera(?), so not even joking he still could've won.--[[User:Dinodomain|Dinodomain]] ([[User talk:Dinodomain|talk]]) 01:10, 22 January 2016 (EST)
 
Superboomfan would probably be the best player generally in my opinion. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Orange 08:27, 22 January 2016 (EST)
:wario was seeded 1st for GENESIS 3 (the largest Smash 64 tournament of all time) and won. Plus, he hasn't lost a tournament starting with Kansai 2014, while SuPeRbOoMfAn has dropped tournaments in Japan and Peru during this time period (and the Japanese tournament was won by wario). I think it's safe to say wario is the champ right now. [[User:PokemonMasterJamal3|PokemonMasterJamal3]] ([[User talk:PokemonMasterJamal3|talk]]) 08:35, 22 January 2016 (EST)
 
== Playstyle ==
 
If Isai is considered one of (if not the absolute) best 64 players shouldn't he have a Playstyle, and he is also the GOAT of 64 and the other GOATS (Armada, M2K, ZeRo, MkLeo, & ThundeRzReiGn) have them, shouldn't he? [[User:Royal Marth|Royal Marth]] ([[User talk:Royal Marth|talk]]) 22:27, December 11, 2021 (EST)

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