Editing Smasher talk:IcyMist

==Top professional==
Look, she has 2 top 64 placings at tier 1 events (CEO and Smash Con) and 5 wins over PGR members. Stop trying to downplay these achievements. Those are top pro results. You don't need to be on the PGR.
Other players were promoted to top pro just for beating a single good player (Cashmere beating Tsu for example). [[User:Dimo|Dimo]] ([[User talk:Dimo|talk]]) 14:06, 20 April 2017 (EDT)
:While I do agree her results are impressive I'm leveling towards IcyMist being just a Pro by definition. People like Juice.Doom have beaten other Top Pros in upsets such as Nairo and Fatality but we don't go saying this underdog is a Top Pro, because he is inconsistent, like IcyMist who has wins over Ned and Dabuz. In contrast Jonny Westside was ranked in SoCal, a strong region, and was very consistent. —[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 16:19, 20 April 2017 (EDT)
::She is Top Pro, remember she does play Samus, a low tier character, ranked 1st in pittsburgh, a pretty tough region. With wins over the ones mentioned and more, including Darkshad, Smasher1001, Raffi-X, Komota, Colinies, and Twi.  [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the God-Slayer 17:31, 20 April 2017 (EDT)
:::I see your point about Max Ketchum, but he never achieved meaningful results at major tournaments, unlike IcyMist. IMO being the best at her character + good results at majors + good wins including a top 10 player should be enough. The wiki has a very loose definition of top pro anyway. Luhtie was promoted just for beating ZeRo. [[User:Dimo|Dimo]] ([[User talk:Dimo|talk]]) 18:53, 20 April 2017 (EDT)
:::*Yeah, I know. I disagree with what the Wiki did, though, because the point here is that these results tend to be just flukes. As for IcyMist, she is inconsistent AF, like Keitaro's Falco back in 2015.
:::*I've just checked the Pittsburg PR for Smash 4 and could find no notable players outside of maybe Volt. Are you sure by "a pretty tough region" you weren't referring to the Melee Scene, where [[Abate]] currently resides?
:::*Maining a low tier and getting some results with it doesn't automatically make you a Top Pro, character choice is irrelevant. However, I don't think if these same results took place in a major or local it would make a difference. —[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 18:17, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
::::What qualification do you have to determine that these wins over top players are "just flukes"? Why do you consistently ignore results? Her results spread isn't shiny gold like ZeRo's is, sure, but things like 33rd at CEO 2016 should not be ignored, nor should it be passed off as just inconsistent. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:54, 21 April 2017 (EDT)
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 :::*Maining a low tier and getting some results with it doesn't automatically make you a Top Pro, character choice is irrelevant. However, I don't think if these same results took place in a major or local it would make a difference. —[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 18:17, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
 ::::What qualification do you have to determine that these wins over top players are "just flukes"? Why do you consistently ignore results? Her results spread isn't shiny gold like ZeRo's is, sure, but things like 33rd at CEO 2016 should not be ignored, nor should it be passed off as just inconsistent. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:54, 21 April 2017 (EDT)
-:::::Where have I been ignoring results? I think IcyMist getting 33rd at CEO was impressive. She doesn't have enough of these kinds of placings but I think that's enough to get her for us to recognize her as "Pro".—[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 18:20, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
 ::Oh god, you again?? --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 23:57, 21 April 2017 (EDT)
-:::Yes siree. If you have anything productive to say please join us. —[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 18:18, 22 April 2017 (EDT)
-== First name ==
-I noticed we still have a masculine given name in her infobox section, which seems like it would be inaccurate; do we know what name she currently uses? I skimmed her twitter and couldn't spot if she uses anything other than her tag. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 22:43, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
-:Lol it's just a name. It's fine as it is right now. —[[User: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Magenta">S+ Tier</font>]] ([[User talk: Tiers_nonexistent|<font color="Purple">List</font>]]) <font color="Aqua">|</font> [[File:Isohunt.jpg|20px|link=Special:Contributions/Tiers_nonexistent|Look what I've done!!!]] 20:48, 30 June 2017 (EDT)
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