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::::I really don't think accusations of bad faith are going to help here. Remember [[SW:AGF]]. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 10:27, March 10, 2021 (EST)
::::I really don't think accusations of bad faith are going to help here. Remember [[SW:AGF]]. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 10:27, March 10, 2021 (EST)
:::Yes, the denomination was commonplace in the past, but nowadays people stray from it, and for good reason. Removing explicit mentions of the name "rapetent" seems more tantamount to us removing "category: female smashers" for being a useless and frankly offensive way of separating players. This isn't an issue of notability, nor is it removing information, but an unnecessary effort to preserve the community's mistakes and let those mistakes constantly stare at them in the face. What ''would'' be questionable to police for instance is removing all mentions of ZeRo being the best SSB4 player for most of the game's life just because of what he did, or pretending the crew "DBR" wasn't once called "Death By Rape". And even in the hypothetical extreme that the playertag of the GOAT is something like "I hate N-word's", I doubt a player with that name is going to get very far without at least one person objecting to it or a reasonable minded TO refusing to register them.<br>Now that being said, in regards to "rapetent" specifically, OT mentioned that preserving the redirect should be harmless, as those who would put it into the search bar probably wouldn't be offended by it (although we might have to add a notice to the page in case anyone sees that it redirects and tries to add it back). I'm still not fully sure I support this proposal to the letter, but there is a point at which it becomes less about notability and more about random factoids that just editorialize and offend readers. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 11:26, March 10, 2021 (EST)
:::Yes, the denomination was commonplace in the past, but nowadays people stray from it, and for good reason. Removing explicit mentions of the name "rapetent" seems more tantamount to us removing "category: female smashers" for being a useless and frankly offensive way of separating players. This isn't an issue of notability, nor is it removing information, but an unnecessary effort to preserve the community's mistakes and let those mistakes constantly stare at them in the face. What ''would'' be questionable to police for instance is removing all mentions of ZeRo being the best SSB4 player for most of the game's life just because of what he did, or pretending the crew "DBR" wasn't once called "Death By Rape". And even in the hypothetical extreme that the playertag of the GOAT is something like "I hate N-word's", I doubt a player with that name is going to get very far without at least one person objecting to it or a reasonable minded TO refusing to register them.<br>Now that being said, in regards to "rapetent" specifically, OT mentioned that preserving the redirect should be harmless, as those who would put it into the search bar probably wouldn't be offended by it (although we might have to add a notice to the page in case anyone sees that it redirects and tries to add it back). I'm still not fully sure I support this proposal to the letter, but there is a point at which it becomes less about notability and more about random factoids that just editorialize and offend readers. - [[User:EndGenuity|EndGenuity]] ([[User talk:EndGenuity|talk]]) 11:26, March 10, 2021 (EST)
:::"''I think this policy would go dangerously into letting users' personal opinions on subjects affect the way that content is displayed, which isn't right for a website trying to be as encyclopedic as possible.''"
:::I understand the concern here, I empathize with this sentiment and I don't like that people have been assuming bad faith on your part for being contrarian here (especially from the other admins). Generally however, slippery slope arguments are fallacious; the administration should be trusted to distinguish between extreme cases that this rewrite is for and when someone lodging a trivial complaint is just being overly sensitive, and not acknowledging "rapetent" in mainspace text does not set a precedent for things like wiping from the the wiki any mention of "sex kick" or whitewashing what DBR used to stand for. We also have to deal with the reality that we are ultimately a wiki for an E10 video game series; while trying to police swearing in talk page discussions is dumb when young kids shouldn't ever be editing in the first place, and community-based articles will naturally cover more heavy-handed subjects when an older audience is involved, there's really no reason to have blatantly derogatory terms be in mainspace articles covering basic game stuff, like using "rapetent" to refer to a stage feature in a stage article. Plus, while I never liked the general argument of "this makes me uncomfortable so we shouldn't have this", I think there's certainly a point to not forcing editors to have to write down tags like the one used by the Zero Suit Samus player that placed 17th at {{Trn|Limit Break}}, especially so when crazies could try using that as a reason to slander the editor outside the wiki. Even though I am very anti-censorship, I certainly wouldn't want edits of mine writing that player's tag down instead of a cleaner alternative that couldn't possibly be held against me in the future. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 01:30, March 11, 2021 (EST)


'''Support''' per reasons provided by everyone else. [[User:Superbound|Superbound]] ([[User talk:Superbound|talk]]) 07:00, March 10, 2021 (EST)
'''Support''' per reasons provided by everyone else. [[User:Superbound|Superbound]] ([[User talk:Superbound|talk]]) 07:00, March 10, 2021 (EST)

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