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| Should it be prohibited to maliciously impersonate active users from non-SmashWiki communities (e.g. YouTube, Reddit, Twitter etc.)? --[[User:Zakawer2|Zakawer2]] ([[User talk:Zakawer2|talk]]) 20:35, February 1, 2022 (EST) | | Should it be prohibited to maliciously impersonate active users from non-SmashWiki communities (e.g. YouTube, Reddit, Twitter etc.)? --[[User:Zakawer2|Zakawer2]] ([[User talk:Zakawer2|talk]]) 20:35, February 1, 2022 (EST) |
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| :I think there was a time where a impersonation was reported and that account was dealt with so there are indeed something being done to these malicious accounts. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 00:07, February 2, 2022 (EST)
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| == Rule amendment regarding similar usernames ==
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| {{proposal|passed}}
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| Currently we have it in our rules that people cannot use a username that is functionally identical or very similar to another active wiki user (or a now inactive but significant wiki user). This rule is good to prevent impersonation and eliminate the inevitable confusion that would occur from two similarly-named users being mistaken for each other, but I do want to make the following amendment:
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| *This restriction on overly similar usernames will be extended to significant Smash figures that do not have SmashWiki accounts, so people will not be allowed to use such names without verifying that they are said figure the name belongs to. This will stamp out any impersonation attempts, prevent issues arising from the account making edits where their identity is relevant (e.g. [[Special:Contributions/Gimr|making edits]] where their legitimacy is based on the user's identity or partaking in conflict of interest editing), and prevent the awkwardness of a big name person trying to create an account on the wiki after their username was already taken by some rando.
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| **This restriction will not apply to overly generic names, e.g. "[[Light]]" or any first name tag. When a name is so generic that several noteworthy figures use the name, it's not practical to bother trying to "reserve" the name, and in the event that multiple people with that same generic tag want to join the wiki, then it's still in our best interest to make them use different usernames so that they aren't confused for each other.
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| There is no hard criteria for what constitutes a "significant Smash figure" and it will have to be decided on a case-by-case basis. So when a new account springs up using a username that would possibly violate this, the administration should be notified and they'll decide if the name is of a significant enough figure to restrict its usage. If they decide it is, the procedure will then be to leave a talk page message notifying the user that they will need to verify their identity with the administration, and if the user confesses or does not give verification, the account will be blocked and the user will be forced to select a new name. If the user refuses to cooperate or does not respond in a timely fashion, then their name will be forcibly changed to something else to free up the username (while any attempt to create new accounts under the restricted name will be met with farther blocks). What do people think of this idea; are you for it, against it, or have any suggestions for revisions to this idea? <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 14:27, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| :Fully onboard with this. A useful heuristic might be if either the name has a Smasher page, or has a red-link to a Smasher page in at least 3 places (or some other arbitrary number) on the wiki, then they're considered a significant smash figure. [[User:Stuart98|Stuart98]] ([[User talk:Stuart98|talk]]) 14:33, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| A natural '''Support'''. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 14:36, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| :'''Support'''. No reason not to support this imo. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:37, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| '''Support''', numerous competitive gaming websites have adopted similar policies with great success. Combatting impersonation is important for good wiki-ing. -[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #4952eb;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 14:59, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| '''Support''' for what should be obvious reasons. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 15:02, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| :'''Support'''. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]] [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''the Spooky Gamer'''</span>]] 16:20, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| Easy '''support''', everything mentioned above sums up my thoughts. [[File:Toad.png|20px]] '''[[User:Ultimate Toad|<font color="#0AF">Ultimate Toad,</font>]] [[User talk:Ultimate Toad|<font color="blue">the Toad Warrior.</font>]] [[Special:Contributions/Ultimate Toad|<font color="#7B5BEE">(I'm the best!)</font>]]''' 16:27, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| '''Support'''. Impersonation has indeed happened before (see above). So it's only natural to have amendments in regard to verifying "significant figures". [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''NPM'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">Morr!?</span>'']] [[File:NaughtyPigBoi.jpg|23x20px]] 19:03, October 17, 2023 (EDT)
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| '''Support''' --[[User:Meester Tweester|Meester Tweester]] ([[User talk:Meester Tweester|talk]]) 13:10, October 18, 2023 (EDT)
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| With no opposition on here nor Discord, I'm passing this. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 06:12, October 20, 2023 (EDT)
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| == <s>Should usernames based off non-Smash celebrities be banned as well?</s> ==
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| <s>Such as Taylor Swift or Terry Fox [[File:Gligar2007sig1.png|25px]][[User:Gligar2007|<span style="color:red;">'''Gligar'''</span>]][[User talk:Gligar2007|<span style="color:blue;">'''2007'''</span>]][[File:Gligar2007sig2.png|25px]] 20:53, January 13, 2024 (EST).</s>
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| == Should we amend the rule about non-English characters to include letters from other languages that are not considered standard English? ==
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| For example ü or é or ñ. I think we already do allow these from what I've seen, and they often appear as part of names, so it seems reasonable to include them. Since they are not considered to be English, should the wording of this rule be adjusted to be more accurate? Or is this unnecessary? ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 22:37, January 13, 2024 (EST)
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| :Bump. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:17, January 20, 2024 (EST)
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| == What if people create usernames impersonating voice actors or deceased smashers? ==
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| Such as if someone makes an account named “{{s|mariowiki|Charles Martinet}}” or “[[Smasher:NES n00b|NES n00b]]?” Would the voice actors never edit this wiki so nobody would care or would it highly depend, meaning you can’t name yourself “[[Satoru Iwata]]” or “[[Masahiro Sakurai]]”? [[File:Gligar2007sig1.png|25px]][[User:Gligar2007|<span style="color:red;">'''Gligar'''</span>]][[User talk:Gligar2007|<span style="color:blue;">'''2007'''</span>]][[File:Gligar2007sig2.png|25px]] 21:21, February 27, 2024 (EST)
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| :Pretty sure your question had been [[User talk:Gligar2007#Policy pages|answered in the last talk post on your talk page]]. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 21:27, February 27, 2024 (EST)
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| ::Do you mean “we will never disallow names of real life people”? People such as Sakurai appear significant Smash figures enough to me that it wouldn’t surprise me if impersonating them would cause confusion. Or would “significant Smash figures” only apply to anyone who would have their page named “Smasher:<nowiki><username></nowiki>”, anyone who works at Nintendo would never edit SmashWiki? [[File:Gligar2007sig1.png|25px]][[User:Gligar2007|<span style="color:red;">'''Gligar'''</span>]][[User talk:Gligar2007|<span style="color:blue;">'''2007'''</span>]][[File:Gligar2007sig2.png|25px]] 23:43, February 27, 2024 (EST)
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| :::The odds of Sakurai legitimately making an account to edit anything is near zero. Because of this, no one would be confused when "Sakurai" makes dumb edits and someone would need to go through a lot of effort to make people thing they are legit (admins could check if they come from a Japanese IP for instance). Also the likely way that someone like Sakurai or Regie would interact with the wiki would be through a legal notice.
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| :::The community cares what people like {{Sm|Sparg0}} or {{Sm|MkLeo}} say about things and someone using that username would easily be called out. Someone impersonating {{Sm|Floppeh}} would be under less scrutiny but would probably still be noticed. Someone probably cares about {{Sm|Garian}}'s opinion but not the wider community these days, and anyone willing to use such a name would likely be that Smasher. --[[User:CanvasK|CanvasK]] ([[User talk:CanvasK|talk]]) 05:11, February 28, 2024 (EST)
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| :::"We're absolutely not going to ban real names from being used", so yes we will never disallow names of real life people and even if there is a case like "Hitler", "we already have a blanket rule against blatantly offensive usernames". Both of these statements were taken from your (Gligar) talk page. [[User:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia;color: black;">Cookies</span>]][[File:CnC Signature.png|20px]][[User talk:Cookies and Creme|<span style="font-family: Georgia; color: black;">Creme</span>]] 11:41, February 28, 2024 (EST)
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