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| If you feel this is so important, then I would advocate SmashWiki:Requests for rollback/Proposal1 instead. It's better written, more professional, like and such as. Additionally, if a list of all rollbackers must be given, I would suggest a link to [[Special:Listusers/rollback]] as opposed to an actual list of all the people. Additionally: | | If you feel this is so important, then I would advocate SmashWiki:Requests for rollback/Proposal1 instead. It's better written, more professional, like and such as. Additionally, if a list of all rollbackers must be given, I would suggest a link to [[Special:Listusers/rollback]] as opposed to an actual list of all the people. Additionally: |
| *"Has the user contributed to the mainspace? Or are they mostly editing the User, User talk and forum namespaces?" is frankly untrue. People may say this is taken into account... but it's not. Sorry. | | *"Has the user contributed to the mainspace? Or are they mostly editing the User, User talk and forum namespaces?" is frankly untrue. People may say this is taken into account... but it's not. Sorry. |
| *"Additionally, consider that rollback is considered a "stepping stone" towards a request for adminship. While rollback'r status is not required, it is considered a sign that one has already shown themself to be wiki-competent." I'd rather like to change this perception. Rollback has nothing to do with adminship. At all. Zero, zip, zilch, nada... you name it. Concensus is that rollback means basically nothing; this line contradicts that community view. {{clr}} | | *"Additionally, consider that rollback is considered a "stepping stone" towards a request for adminship. While rollback'r status is not required, it is considered a sign that one has already shown themself to be wiki-competent." I'd rather like to change this perception. Rollback has nothing to do with adminship. At all. Zero, zip, zilch, nada... you name it. Concensus is that rollback means basically nothing; this line contradicts that community view. {{clear}} |
| --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 23:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | | --<span style="font-family:vivaldi; font-size:12pt">[[User:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4">Shadow</span>]][[User talk:Shadowcrest|<span style="color:#4682b4;">crest</span>]]</span> 23:10, 6 January 2009 (UTC) |
| :Doesn't the Guild Wiki have something like this? In fact, I think most top gaming Wikis have a policy page for rollback. <span style="border:2px outset red;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:Blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC) | | :Doesn't the Guild Wiki have something like this? In fact, I think most top gaming Wikis have a policy page for rollback. <span style="border:2px outset red;background-color:black;-moz-border-radius:1px">'''[[User:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:Blue;">Blue</span>]] [[User talk:Blue Ninjakoopa|<span style="color:blue">Ninjakoopa</span>]]'''</span> 23:32, 6 January 2009 (UTC) |
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| :::The idea behind the system is that it indicates an edit is "checked" and verified to not be problematic in whatever capacity. On a wiki this size, it's not particularly crucial. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:39, 23 January 2016 (EST) | | :::The idea behind the system is that it indicates an edit is "checked" and verified to not be problematic in whatever capacity. On a wiki this size, it's not particularly crucial. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 15:39, 23 January 2016 (EST) |
| ::::The system checks edits it thinks could be vandalizing the article? Why did it check the edit you just made to this page? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 15:45, 23 January 2016 (EST) | | ::::The system checks edits it thinks could be vandalizing the article? Why did it check the edit you just made to this page? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 15:45, 23 January 2016 (EST) |
| :::::Or why did '''you''' just patrol your own edit? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 15:48, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::::Other way around. The system assumes all edits are unchecked and therefore potentially of poor quality or vandalism. However, as an admin, it assumes I've checked the whole page to make sure it's of good quality and therefore the edit is automatically "verified" (patrolled). [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:01, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::::::I think I finally understand. Any time an admin clicks "diff" it records that you checked the change. The supporters want it to also to that with rollbackers, since it's their job to check edits and watch out for vandals. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:07, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::::::One slight correction: clicking diff doesn't do it; my saving an edit afterwards does. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:10, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::::::::It won't say it's okay unless you make an edit after? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:15, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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| ::::::::::Let me try to clarify: I can mark someone else's edit by clicking a "mark as patrolled" option it gives me. However, any edits I make are automatically marked as patrolled. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Verdana;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:18, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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| :::::::::::Oh, that's what else I thought you could mean (and it's both). If an admin makes and edit after the edit or hits the special button, then it will be recorded as patrolled. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]] <small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 16:34, 23 January 2016 (EST)
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| '''Support'''. A solution to clogging the log up is making a filter for Rollbackers. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 12:48, 10 February 2016 (EST)
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| :'''Eh, no''': Not necessary, also, who cares about patrolled edits on a wiki this size? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 13:16, 10 February 2016 (EST)
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| Bump. Anyone have an opinion? -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 15:25, 26 February 2016 (EST)
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| So after my fourth accidental rollback I'm wondering: I always have confirmation requirment enabled, but somtimes when I press "rollback" on recent changes I get stopped to require a confirmation, and sometimes I don't get stopped and rollback anyway. Does anyone know why this happens? I don't want people thinking I'm misusing the tool. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 23:37, November 5, 2019 (EST)
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| :Well, for me, I haven't got an accidental rollback yet I think. From my experience, rollback seems to always require confirmation on mobile if I have confirmation requirement on. I don't know the computer version tho. [[File:Grand Dad.png|23x20px]] [[User:NaughtyPigMario|<span style="color: red;">'''Naughty🐽GRAND DAD'''</span>]] [[User talk:NaughtyPigMario|''<span style="color: blue;">自閉肥宅</span>'']] [[File:NiceGrand.jpeg|23x20px]] 23:51, November 5, 2019 (EST)
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| ::I'm on desktop so I guess that explains it. It's usually happens whenever a "rollback" link is directly above a "diff" link on recent changes, and someone makes an edit right as I'm clicking "diff". Personally I think all versions should always require confirmation. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 08:22, November 10, 2019 (EST)
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| '''No way''', the whole point of rollback is that it's supposed to be a quick way to deal with vandalism. Requiring confirmation can be counter-productive, especially when there are rapid-fire vandal attacks which happen from time to time. Accidentally clicking rollback really isn't that big a deal, just undo the rollback. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 08:30, November 10, 2019 (EST)
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| :What I meant was as a preferences option for desktop like on mobile, but I see your point though. <span style="font-family: Algerian">'''[[User:supatoad64|<span style="color:green;">Supα</span>]][[User talk:supatoad64|<span style="color:red;">Toαd</span><span style="color:blue;">64</span>]]'''</span> [[Image:001Toad.jpg|20px]] 08:44, November 11, 2019 (EST)
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| ::Ok, the way you worded it made it seem as though you meant for requiring confirmation to be mandatory. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 12:21, November 11, 2019 (EST)
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