Editing SmashWiki talk:Redirects

#Why not? It would definitely be useful.  [[User:Kenniky|kenniky]] [[Image:SMASHROSTERSMALL.png|16px|link=User_talk:kenniky]] 23:58, 23 April 2017 (EDT)

#Shift to '''Support ''only as a guideline''''' per Nutty. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 19:54, 5 May 2017 (EDT)

==Oppose==

#'''Oppose''' Eh, has there been a recent example of somebody making lots of pointless redirects? I would say this is the sort of thing that can be left up to the user's discretion when creating the redirects. If somebody did make a 'needless' redirect such as a capitalisation one, I don't think anyone would stand in the way of an admin wiping it on their own accord. Whether you're looking from the perspective of creating or deleting, generally people will be indifferent about each case. Adding a policy only makes the process feel more stringent, and people might start to question whether or not their redirect is useful. I doubt little-used redirects really take up much server space. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="darkorange">Toast</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px|link=Special:Contributions/ToastUltimatum]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="seablue">'''ltimatum'''</font>]][[File:Transparent Swadloon.png|26px]] 00:26, 21 April 2017 (EDT)

#:That's kind of the point, to get people to think before they make a redirect (or in many cases, a series of them) that I later have to delete <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:47, 21 April 2017 (EDT)

#'''Oppose'''. This is a completely pointless policy. Redirect usefulness is generally determined on a case-by-case basis. Any user who repeatedly makes clearly useless redirects is likely trying to stir up trouble. If it were a guideline, I may agree, but I see no point in allowing punishment of users who are trying to make the wiki more navigable (or otherwise giving another redundant reason to punish troublemaking users). <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  00:09, 24 April 2017 (EDT)

==Neutral==

:So say that a small community of people suddenly start calling Pikachu "hotdog" or something (I know it's a dumb example, but I have seen dumber nicknames). Would you want a redirect like that? This is the kind of thing that our policies are meant to protect against. Additionally, each redirect situation can be evaluated against this policy as they come. The policy does not set a hard fast "notability limit" on unofficial nicknames, only mentioning that they must be at least somewhat well known. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 16:47, 6 May 2017 (EDT)

::I guess I see your point. But for things like that it may be better to take things on a case by case basis like DNK suggested. I basically agree with all the other rules, but i really think that the obscure name thing should be more of a guideline. Like I said, if it would be helpful to make the redirect, which in the case of your "hotdog" example it would not, then I think it should be valid. Like for example if a youtube video referred to a known tech by an obscure name, and then a bunch of people who saw the video started calling it that, having no idea what the real name is, they may never find the page for that tech. If it is something that people would genuinely search for (which almost certainly would not be the case with "hotdog", which is a key difference) then it really should be a redirect. To re-use my previous example of move decay, although it is pretty obscure, there are still people who would search it (like I once did many years ago, I never found the page back then), therefore it deserves a redirect. However your example of "hotdog" is realistically not something people would actually search for, as they would already know Pikachu's name, as well as know that there is no way he would actually be called hotdog. Even if a group of people started calling it that, no one would expect it to be a redirect. But some obscure names sound sensible, and may refer to things where a lot of people don't actually know the official name, and in that case, even if it is not hugely popular, I still feel it should have a redirect. It just seems like the section on that on the page is too restrictive. Every case is different, and some alternate name, are relevant, even if they are not well known. In the same way, just because something is well known doesn't mean it deserves a redirect. To use an example similar to "hotdog", but well known, many people know the nickname "Baeonetta", but obviously that would be a stupid thing to have a redirect for. I know I've waffled a bit but what I'm basically saying is that wether or not a redirect is justifiable should be based on how sensible it is, not how well known it is (A.K.A move decay = good, Baeonetta = bad). [[User:Alex Parpotta|Alex Parpotta]] ([[User talk:Alex Parpotta|talk]]) 17:05, 6 May 2017 (EDT)