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If I went off in the wrong direction for what you wanted to discuss, by all means set me straight, but if you want to change the policy you might want to try avoiding looking at this one specific leak (because it may restrict our perspective). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomprehensible 19:03, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
If I went off in the wrong direction for what you wanted to discuss, by all means set me straight, but if you want to change the policy you might want to try avoiding looking at this one specific leak (because it may restrict our perspective). [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Incomprehensible 19:03, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:<s>Did we create pages for fighters implicated in the Gematsu leak when it first surfaced? We never did until they were officially confirmed. This case should be no different.</s> [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 19:16, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:Did we create pages for fighters implicated in the Gematsu leak when it first surfaced? We never did until they were officially confirmed. This case should be no different. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 19:16, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::Except this time, there is evidence in the form of a video. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  19:19, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::Except this time, there is evidence in the form of a video. <span style="font-family:AR JULIAN; font-size:12pt">[[User:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Chuck</span>]][[User talk:ChuckNorris24|<span style="color:brown">Norris</span>]]</span>[[File:24.png|23px]]  19:19, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:::<s>True, but we need to consider the chance that texture hacks and other types of video setup to create the footage were involved.</s> [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 19:27, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:::True, but we need to consider the chance that texture hacks and other types of video setup to create the footage were involved. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 19:27, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::::If you've found evidence that those characters are Brawl hacks, then by all means, please show. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|Lasifer]]</span> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]] 19:36, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::::If you've found evidence that those characters are Brawl hacks, then by all means, please show. --<span style="background-color: black; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|Lasifer]]</span> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]] 19:36, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::::We drew a specific line, which this leak has now crossed. I've seen no evidence to support the claim of Shulk or Bowser Jr.'s gameplay being Brawl hacks. If you have such evidence, feel free to share it. As it stands, though, this leak has met our standards for legitimacy by providing clear and unambiguous video. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:40, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::::We drew a specific line, which this leak has now crossed. I've seen no evidence to support the claim of Shulk or Bowser Jr.'s gameplay being Brawl hacks. If you have such evidence, feel free to share it. As it stands, though, this leak has met our standards for legitimacy by providing clear and unambiguous video. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 19:40, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:::::<s>Had to wait until I got home from classes. Anyways, [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gxj7nzpHK2I compare Shulk's movements] with [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FWdSR_nMryA Marth or Roy's movements] (Project M footage). Notice any similarities? Also, Shulk's voice may be taken directly from Xenoblade Chronicles.</s> [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 19:57, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:::::Had to wait until I got home from classes. Anyways, [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gxj7nzpHK2I compare Shulk's movements] with [https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FWdSR_nMryA Marth or Roy's movements] (Project M footage). Notice any similarities? Also, Shulk's voice may be taken directly from Xenoblade Chronicles. [[User:Berrenta|Berrenta]] ([[User talk:Berrenta|talk]]) 19:57, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::::::There are some minor similarities, although it doesn't explain the constant equipping and dequipping of the Monado (note how often it ends up on Shulk's back). Also, Smash reusing sound clips is very possible, but since Shulk's VA implied he worked on something big it could very well be new recordings of the same lines. On top of that, there's still the matter of Bowser Jr. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:03, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
::::::There are some minor similarities, although it doesn't explain the constant equipping and dequipping of the Monado (note how often it ends up on Shulk's back). Also, Smash reusing sound clips is very possible, but since Shulk's VA implied he worked on something big it could very well be new recordings of the same lines. On top of that, there's still the matter of Bowser Jr. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:03, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:::::::I'm back from Tae-Kwon-Do. Also, there is the fact that Dr. Mario, Lucina and Dark Pit being separated from there franchise and being grouped together as "clones". Sakurai wouldn't emphasize the flaw of having clones. When he explained Lucina's clone status, he gave her an excuse for being separate from Marth. And why is Yoshi in the middle of the Mario characters if Smash considers him from his own series? And doesn't Ganondorf's head look like an inverted Twilight Princess artwork? I know Lucina has the same pose as her masked artwork from Awakening, but would they really be uncreative with poses? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 20:38, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
:::::::I'm back from Tae-Kwon-Do. Also, there is the fact that Dr. Mario, Lucina and Dark Pit being separated from there franchise and being grouped together as "clones". Sakurai wouldn't emphasize the flaw of having clones. When he explained Lucina's clone status, he gave her an excuse for being separate from Marth. And why is Yoshi in the middle of the Mario characters if Smash considers him from his own series? And doesn't Ganondorf's head look like an inverted Twilight Princess artwork? I know Lucina has the same pose as her masked artwork from Awakening, but would they really be uncreative with poses? [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 20:38, 25 August 2014 (EDT)
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:--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  23:08, 28 August 2014 (EDT)
:--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  23:08, 28 August 2014 (EDT)
::I wasn't saying bigfoot or the Paterson footage is real, I was simply using a recognizable example that everyone would know. It's a metaphor. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:142.177.93.149|142.177.93.149]] ([[User talk:142.177.93.149|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/142.177.93.149|contribs]]) 07:04, August 29, 2014 (CDT)</small>
::I wasn't saying bigfoot or the Paterson footage is real, I was simply using a recognizable example that everyone would know. It's a metaphor.
Shulk's official artwork matches the leak, I think this seals it. <span style="background-color: orange; border:3px solid blue; border-radius:10px 30px 30px 10px;">[[User:Lasifer|Lasifer]]</span> [[File:MaskedManSignatureSprite.PNG|link=User talk:Lasifer]] 08:53, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
:All right. I believe the leaks now. [[User:SeanWheeler|SeanWheeler]] ([[User talk:SeanWheeler|talk]]) 09:20, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
::Yep. Game set. We're done here. [[Image:VinSymbol.png|16px|link=User:VinLAURiA]][[User:VinLAURiA|VinLAURiA]] ([[User talk:VinLAURiA|talk]]) 11:16, 29 August 2014 (EDT)
 
== Expand timeframe to include DLC Coverage? ==
 
As title, just to get rid of the grey area. Score[[Special:Contributions/ScoreCounter|C]]o[[User:ScoreCounter|u]]n[[User Talk:ScoreCounter|t]]er 15:37, 29 April 2015 (EDT)
:I'm already more or less using it for this purpose. (Although given the more sophisticated fakes like Artsy Omni's Rayman, I may have to specify further on the subject of videos...) [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 16:11, 29 April 2015 (EDT)
 
== What Shall We Do Now? ==
 
We're approaching 3 years of ''Smash 4'', and I don't think anyone here is going to dispute that the game is old news now.
 
That leaves the question of what to do with this policy. We could just archive it and be done with it, but I think it'd be better if we turned this into a general guideline that covers any future games in the series.
 
Thoughts?
 
--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  00:00, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
:It should have been written like that in the first place. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva;font-size:12pt">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">King</span>]]'''</span> 00:07, 26 June 2017 (EDT)
 
::odamn, was that a callout? lol
 
::In any case, I'll see if I can whip up a draft in the next few days or so. This policy is too narrow as-is, but hopefully, we can make it more useful for future editors.
 
::--- <font face="Pristina"><font size="3">''[[User:Monsieur Crow|Monsieur]] [[User_talk:Monsieur Crow|Crow]], Author Extraordinaire''</font></font>,  00:20, 26 June 2017 (EDT)

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