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#:If you can't supply a reason, why are you voting...? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 19:28, 26 November 2015 (EST) | #:If you can't supply a reason, why are you voting...? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 19:28, 26 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#'''Support''' I can't really say anything on the matter, as all of the valid points have already been stated and would be redundant if I repeated them... [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 01:05, 28 November 2015 (EST) | #'''Support''' I can't really say anything on the matter, as all of the valid points have already been stated and would be redundant if I repeated them... [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 01:05, 28 November 2015 (EST) | ||
===Oppose=== | ===Oppose=== | ||
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#'''Oppose''' on the basis that [[Help:Edit summary]] already exists. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Steppin' 09:25, 28 November 2015 (EST) | #'''Oppose''' on the basis that [[Help:Edit summary]] already exists. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Steppin' 09:25, 28 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#'''Oppose''' per Toomai. {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 09:56, 28 November 2015 (EST) | #'''Oppose''' per Toomai. {{User:Nyargleblargle/Sig}} 09:56, 28 November 2015 (EST) | ||
# | #'''weak oppose''' i just remembered [[Help:Edit summary]] existed [[User:Nintendofan1653|Nintendofan1653]] ([[User talk:Nintendofan1653|talk]]) 10:33, 28 November 2015 (EST) | ||
<s>#'''Weak Oppose''' upon realization per Toomai, NyBlargle, and Nintendofan. I'm sorry.... [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: red;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Festive Evil Clone'''</span>]] 11:16, 28 November 2015 (EST)</s> | <s>#'''Weak Oppose''' upon realization per Toomai, NyBlargle, and Nintendofan. I'm sorry.... [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: red;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:green;">'''The Festive Evil Clone'''</span>]] 11:16, 28 November 2015 (EST)</s> | ||
#<s>'''Oppose''' upon realization that there is a help page about edit summaries, rendering this unnecessary. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="cursive">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">(Talk • </font>]] [[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">Contribs)</font>]]'''''</sup></font> 12:27, 28 November 2015 (EST)</s> | #<s>'''Oppose''' upon realization that there is a help page about edit summaries, rendering this unnecessary. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="cursive">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">(Talk • </font>]] [[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">Contribs)</font>]]'''''</sup></font> 12:27, 28 November 2015 (EST)</s> | ||
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#::I don't think this really works as a help page... I think it would be better to merge the help page into the policy/guideline. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 12:33, 28 November 2015 (EST) | #::I don't think this really works as a help page... I think it would be better to merge the help page into the policy/guideline. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="red">SANTY</font> <font color="green">CLAWS</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 12:33, 28 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#:::Upon realization, I'm now re-supporting as a guideline. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="cursive">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">(Talk • </font>]] [[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">Contribs)</font>]]'''''</sup></font> 12:44, 28 November 2015 (EST) | #:::Upon realization, I'm now re-supporting as a guideline. [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <font face="cursive">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>'''''[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">(Talk • </font>]] [[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">Contribs)</font>]]'''''</sup></font> 12:44, 28 November 2015 (EST) | ||
===Neutral=== | ===Neutral=== | ||
#'''Eh.''' Edit summaries are to be encouraged, definitely, but the response to someone forgetting to use one shouldn't be anything more than a "hey, you probably should use these". It wouldn't hurt as a guideline, but I'm not convinced it's specifically needed either. Either way, this isn't anything worth trying to strictly enforce. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:14, 22 November 2015 (EST) | #'''Eh.''' Edit summaries are to be encouraged, definitely, but the response to someone forgetting to use one shouldn't be anything more than a "hey, you probably should use these". It wouldn't hurt as a guideline, but I'm not convinced it's specifically needed either. Either way, this isn't anything worth trying to strictly enforce. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 20:14, 22 November 2015 (EST) | ||
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# '''Neutral.''' I personally feel that [[Help:Edit summary]] is sufficient and pretty much covers everything you need to know when adding edit summaries. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 16:55, 27 November 2015 (EST) | # '''Neutral.''' I personally feel that [[Help:Edit summary]] is sufficient and pretty much covers everything you need to know when adding edit summaries. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 16:55, 27 November 2015 (EST) | ||
# '''Neutral'''. I think that while there is the [[Help:Edit summary]] page, upon further comparison and analyzation of the content there and what is proposed here, I think that perhaps it is not as sufficient as it could be. Couple this with how that page is a Help page, which provides little reason for users to read it due to the oh so simple nature of writing Summaries in general. Policies and Guidelines do provide more reason for reading, as they are enforcement and strong suggestions, correspondingly. I know that content written in summaries, as well as the lack thereof, has been the spawn of some issues here, many of them being my fault, and perhaps if one or both of my eyes had caught a Guideline written about Summaries at the very bottom of the page, those could have been avoided, or perhaps not. Or, I could have just chosen to be wiser and more effective in communicating what I had changed in the pages I edited. Either way, and regardless of my personal and feelings and speculative thoughts, this a very minor thing to be dealing with, and people are responsible for how they write, fail to write, or respond to Edit Summaries. Therefore, this doesn't seem to be especially necessary. I would be '''mildly fine''' with it either being a '''Guideline''' or not existing at all, but definitely ''not'' a policy. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 22:47, 27 November 2015 (EST) | # '''Neutral'''. I think that while there is the [[Help:Edit summary]] page, upon further comparison and analyzation of the content there and what is proposed here, I think that perhaps it is not as sufficient as it could be. Couple this with how that page is a Help page, which provides little reason for users to read it due to the oh so simple nature of writing Summaries in general. Policies and Guidelines do provide more reason for reading, as they are enforcement and strong suggestions, correspondingly. I know that content written in summaries, as well as the lack thereof, has been the spawn of some issues here, many of them being my fault, and perhaps if one or both of my eyes had caught a Guideline written about Summaries at the very bottom of the page, those could have been avoided, or perhaps not. Or, I could have just chosen to be wiser and more effective in communicating what I had changed in the pages I edited. Either way, and regardless of my personal and feelings and speculative thoughts, this a very minor thing to be dealing with, and people are responsible for how they write, fail to write, or respond to Edit Summaries. Therefore, this doesn't seem to be especially necessary. I would be '''mildly fine''' with it either being a '''Guideline''' or not existing at all, but definitely ''not'' a policy. [[User:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:maroon;text-shadow:1px 1px 3px orange">'''Smashedpotatoes'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Smashedpotatoes|<span style="color:cerulean;text-shadow: 1px 1px 3px cyan">'''(Talk)'''</span>]] 22:47, 27 November 2015 (EST) | ||
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How about merging these two pages? [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Gold">'''Drill Blaster'''</span> <span style="color:LightBlue">'''Mark'''</span> <span style="color:Crimson">'''2'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Grey">(talk)</span>]]'' 06:07, 29 November 2015 (EST) | How about merging these two pages? [[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Gold">'''Drill Blaster'''</span> <span style="color:LightBlue">'''Mark'''</span> <span style="color:Crimson">'''2'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<span style="color:Grey">(talk)</span>]]'' 06:07, 29 November 2015 (EST) | ||
:I have [[User:Serpent King/Sandbox/Help:Edit summary rewrite|drafted the new help page]] for if this proposal fails. If it passes, the help page should be deleted. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:33, 29 November 2015 (EST) | :I have [[User:Serpent King/Sandbox/Help:Edit summary rewrite|drafted the new help page]] for if this proposal fails. If it passes, the help page should be deleted. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:33, 29 November 2015 (EST) | ||