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This page is an archive for nominations on the page [[SmashWiki talk:Article of the Week]].
This page is an archive for nominations on the page [[SmashWiki talk:Article of the Week]].


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*'''Strong For''', once we get the technical things sorted out.  Let's save this article for SmashWiki's unveiling. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 17:03, February 25, 2007 (GMT)
*'''Strong For''', once we get the technical things sorted out.  Let's save this article for SmashWiki's unveiling. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 17:03, February 25, 2007 (GMT)
*'''For'''. Use of the word "mustachioed" makes this hands-down the best URL on the internet. :^) -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 16:56, February 26, 2007 (GMT)
*'''For'''. Use of the word "mustachioed" makes this hands-down the best URL on the internet. :^) -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 16:56, February 26, 2007 (GMT)


=== [[Wavedash]] ===
=== [[Wavedash]] ===
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* '''Nomination'''.  Has a bloated trivia section; otherwise I think it's good. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 03:59, March 12, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Nomination'''.  Has a bloated trivia section; otherwise I think it's good. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 03:59, March 12, 2007 (GMT)


=== [[Metroid (universe)]] ===
=== [[Metroid (universe)]] ===
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=== [[Tournament legal (SSBM)]] ===
=== [[Tournament legal (SSBM)]] ===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-14]]'''


* '''Nomination'''.  OK, I know it isn't pretty.  It's functional though.  I'd like to see what you guys think about this article (and articles like it). {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 03:59, March 12, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Nomination'''.  OK, I know it isn't pretty.  It's functional though.  I'd like to see what you guys think about this article (and articles like it). {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 03:59, March 12, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Weak For'''. Could be better, but it's pretty good. [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 08:30, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Weak For'''. Could be better, but it's pretty good. [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 08:30, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Wear For'''. What Waluigi said. [[User:ItemHazard|ItemHazard]] ([[User talk:ItemHazard|talk]]) 01:10, 26 June 2008 (UTC) ItemHazard
=== [[M3D]] ===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-15]]'''
* '''Nomination''' (and for, of course).  I just noticed this article the other day.  I think it's a very nice article - information-filled but concise.  Thoughts? {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 03:59, March 12, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Against.''' Having smasher articles for AOTW could make others jealous (not me, though). {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 23:55, March 23, 2007 (GMT)
:I'd say the nomination is valid; we're in the business of distributing information, not social networking and public relations designed to soften the blow for people with easily-bruisable egos. -- <font color="000023">'''[[User:Randall00|Randall00]]'''</font> <sup>''[[User talk:Randall00|Talk]]''</sup> 20:29, April 2, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For'''. [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 08:31, March 27, 2007 (GMT)
=== [[Teleport (SSB)]] ===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-16]]'''
* '''Nom and tentative for''' It's pretty complete, but I dunno, it's not exactly flashy or lengthy. --[[User:Greenblob|Greenblob]] 19:03, April 2, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Weak For''' [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 17:11, April 5, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For'''.  We don't have a repository of amazing long articles anyways - most of the big ones have equally big problems. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 13:55, April 7, 2007 (GMT)
=== [[Final Destination]] ===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-17]]'''
* '''Nom and for''' {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 19:16, March 16, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Weak against''', as it is.  Not ready yet - it needs wikification and a perhaps-thorough copyedit of the big paragraphs.  It certainly has the stuff of a good stage article though. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 23:12, March 16, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For''' -- I agree that this is one of the better stage articles. [[User:The Magnum Master|The Magnum Master]] 19:48, April 2, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Weak For''' [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 04:34, April 20, 2007 (GMT)
=== [[Directional influence]] ===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-18]]'''
*'''Nom and For''' Not because it's incredibly outstanding, but because it's good enough and we currently don't have any nominations with scores above zero. <_< --[[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 09:12, April 29, 2007 (GMT)
=== [[Tournament]] ===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-21]]'''
* '''Nom, abstain'''. Something I've been working on for a while on and off. Could probably use a History section and maybe some more pictures, but otherwise I think it's a good intro to the tournament scene and what one can expect to find there. --[[User:Nealdt|nealdt]] 19:42, May 4, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For'''. I really liked this article, it really helped me host my first [[CAST]] when I first entered the competitive scene. Although, i agree with Nealdt, a History section would be nice.... --[[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 05:33, May 16, 2007 (GMT)
=== [[Smash Bros. universe]] ===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-22]]'''
* '''Nom & for''' {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 11:20, May 18, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Confident For'''. It's been a while since we've had a universe article as AOTC, eh? {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 12:47, May 18, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For''' [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 03:38, May 20, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For''' Thanks muchly, people. Supposing there are 17 Universe articles, and we feature one every three weeks, they'd last up to an entire year. I should warn, however; if the Dojo site is going to relaunch, and perhaps show an immense amount of new information about Brawl, all of these universe pages would need to be updated, though that might not really matter much to whether a universe page can be AOTW that week. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 16:52, May 20, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For.''' Good article just like all the other universe articles. [[User:The Magnum Master|The Magnum Master]] 17:22, May 20, 2007 (GMT)
* '''For''' [[User:Janitor|Janitor]] 09:17, May 20, 2007 (GMT)
===[[Amsah]]===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-24]]'''
*'''Nomination & for'''. This page is quite complete, quite well organized. It seems well written, but since english isn't my mother tongue, I won't assert it. It's also interesting since, for the wiki readers, it's an open door to the european community. And also, I think this Amsah has an interesting smash career. --[[User:Slhoka|Slhoka]] 19:56, June 5, 2007 (GMT)
*'''For''', if for no other reason than the fact that we desperately need a featured article right now. [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 02:40, June 7, 2007 (EDT)
===[[Luigi (SSBM)]]===
'''Result: article selected as [[SmashWiki:Article of the Week/2007-26]]'''
*'''Nom & For''': I remember the votes against [[Mewtwo (SSBM)]] on here some time ago, stating that the extreme detail on that page effectively scares away readers. This Luigi page appears to conform much better with what voters expect from a page on a playable fighter appearing in a specific Smash game; His pros and cons section is well-written prose, his big move-descriptions section is appealing to me personally (especially without a bunch of giant GIFs clogging up the page), and his unlock method is near the top where it should be. I'm also aware this was nominated three months ago and failed, but [http://www.smashwiki.com/w/index.php?title=Luigi_%28SSBM%29&diff=28322&oldid=16442 this] is the editing that has occured to it since then. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 16:35, June 18, 2007 (EDT)
*'''For''', for the same reasons as before.  I'll try to touch it up before it goes up. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 15:43, June 23, 2007 (EDT)


== Unsuccessful votes ==
== Unsuccessful votes ==
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* '''Against''', per KK and AltAcnt.  Though, I think GSC could be a potential candidate if its focus was on its history/significance instead of how to use it and the system requirements.  {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 17:37, February 23, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Against''', per KK and AltAcnt.  Though, I think GSC could be a potential candidate if its focus was on its history/significance instead of how to use it and the system requirements.  {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 17:37, February 23, 2007 (GMT)
**kk, how about [[GSC|now]]? :^) -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 21:56, February 23, 2007 (GMT)
**kk, how about [[GSC|now]]? :^) -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 21:56, February 23, 2007 (GMT)
*** No. Still, there are a lot of you's, and imperative moods. Also, there are GSC/sv|two GSC/fr|translations to work on. I can help you with the Swedish one, but I'm a very poor French speaker. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 22:36, February 23, 2007 (GMT)
*** No. Still, there are a lot of you's, and imperative moods. Also, there are [[GSC/sv|two]] [[GSC/fr|translations]] to work on. I can help you with the Swedish one, but I'm a very poor French speaker. {{User:AltAcnt/sig}} 22:36, February 23, 2007 (GMT)
***Well it's as comprehensive as it will ever be in English and I removed the "you" completely now. As to the imperative moods, it's hard enough to give instructions without using "you" but it's more important for the information to be available in its most useful form than it is to scrutinize the tone. Either way, I did forget about the translations so it looks like this is going to take much longer than anticipated. -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 16:34, February 26, 2007 (GMT)
***Well it's as comprehensive as it will ever be in English and I removed the "you" completely now. As to the imperative moods, it's hard enough to give instructions without using "you" but it's more important for the information to be available in its most useful form than it is to scrutinize the tone. Either way, I did forget about the translations so it looks like this is going to take much longer than anticipated. -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 16:34, February 26, 2007 (GMT)


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*'''Nomination & for'''.  I've cleaned up the page considerably in the past two days and I think it's one of our better pages. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 00:46, February 24, 2007 (GMT)
*'''Nomination & for'''.  I've cleaned up the page considerably in the past two days and I think it's one of our better pages. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 00:46, February 24, 2007 (GMT)
*'''For.''' Although I would really like to see standardization with the character pages, I like the way this page flows off the page. Standardization should happen after SSBB, however, when we know what to add for every character and page. Good job, Mask. [[User:Oddeven2002|Oddeven2002]] 01:10, February 24, 2007 (GMT)
*'''For.''' Although I would really like to see standardization with the character pages, I like the way this page flows off the page. Standardization should happen after SSBB, however, when we know what to add for every character and page. Good job, Mask. [[User:Oddeven2002|Oddeven2002]] 01:10, February 24, 2007 (GMT)
*'''Against'''. Haha, thanks for polishing that moveset off for me, Masked. That's something I've been putting off forever! Still needs info on the throws and other miscellaneous Luigi attacks if comprehensiveness is what we seek. It's an excellent article in its current form, yes, but I'm not sure this is quite the model for all character articles. Also, there's this pile of :Category:Character Match-ups|Character-specific match-up categories. Are we ''really'' going to be able to pull that off? If so, Luigi's article should link to it. If not, we ought to get around to deleting those pages. I have a hard time believing we're going to find anyone who knows a lot about a Yoshi vs. Zelda match-up.  -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 16:50, February 26, 2007 (GMT)
*'''Against'''. Haha, thanks for polishing that moveset off for me, Masked. That's something I've been putting off forever! Still needs info on the throws and other miscellaneous Luigi attacks if comprehensiveness is what we seek. It's an excellent article in its current form, yes, but I'm not sure this is quite the model for all character articles. Also, there's this pile of [[:Category:Character Match-ups|Character-specific match-up]] categories. Are we ''really'' going to be able to pull that off? If so, Luigi's article should link to it. If not, we ought to get around to deleting those pages. I have a hard time believing we're going to find anyone who knows a lot about a Yoshi vs. Zelda match-up.  -- [[User:Randall00|Randall00]] 16:50, February 26, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Comment''' - My personal assessment of this article: I think the main shortcomings of this article is that it has too strong a focus on Luigi in competitive play, and is not organized very well - as you said, it is not the model for character articles we're looking for, but rather a well-crafted article in a flawed mold.  I'd say the character match-ups are peripheral issues and don't play a significant factor in the [[Luigi (SSBM)]] article.  Methinks we should begin by adding general information about Luigi - how he is portrayed in SSBM, where in the 1-player mode he appears, et cetera.  A comprehensive moveset can come afterwards, but there really isn't much to say about Luigi's down tilt or forward throw. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 22:55, February 27, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Comment''' - My personal assessment of this article: I think the main shortcomings of this article is that it has too strong a focus on Luigi in competitive play, and is not organized very well - as you said, it is not the model for character articles we're looking for, but rather a well-crafted article in a flawed mold.  I'd say the character match-ups are peripheral issues and don't play a significant factor in the [[Luigi (SSBM)]] article.  Methinks we should begin by adding general information about Luigi - how he is portrayed in SSBM, where in the 1-player mode he appears, et cetera.  A comprehensive moveset can come afterwards, but there really isn't much to say about Luigi's down tilt or forward throw. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 22:55, February 27, 2007 (GMT)
=== [[Mewtwo]] ===
* '''Nom and For''' [[User:WaluigiIsAwesome|WaluigiIsAwesome]] 20:33, March 26, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Against.''' This is the embodiment of a hyper-technical article that will scare away anyone who just wants to know about Mewtwo. Plus the GIFs lag my computer. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 17:02, April 6, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Weak For''' This is the embodiment of a hyper-technical article I would support as the Mewtwo-as-a-Melee-fighter gameplay-specific article that should be named [[Mewtwo (SSBM)]] and link from a general article about the character named [[Mewtwo]]. Per what I proposed in [http://www.smashwiki.com/wiki/SmashWiki:Pool_Room#Formatting_Proposal:_Structure_by_Characters.3F SmashWiki Pool Room], structuring the site's pages by the characters represented, rather than the characters as gameplay objects, will make [[Mewtwo]] a general article about the character in the style of the recent Universe pages I'vbeen making, and it will link to this gameplay-specific page, which should be called [[Mewtwo (SSBM)]], and Mewtwo will link to Mewtwo (SSBB) in the future if he returns in Brawl. I think it'd work best that way, so this article should remove the Origin section because that should go in the general Mewtwo article. Also, add Home Run Contest strategies like what is seen in the Peach gameplay article, and definitely remove the gifs because it takes my dial-up browser a full 30 seconds to load the page, and what the move animations look like probably aren't that important to Smash players anyway. [[User:Erik the Appreciator|Erik the Appreciator]] 17:47, April 6, 2007 (GMT)
** '''Comment:''' IMO I think what this article has is too technical even for a general Melee (I think "Melee" reads better than SSBM, BTW) specific article. Say someone wants to find out what Mewtwo's down B does. It's not there until near the bottom of the page, and what's above it is largely hyper-technical information that will probably confuse said reader. In any event, this discussion is probably better for the Mewtwo page--here we should limit ourselves to the article as an AotW nominee. --[[User:Kirby King|<font color="red"><b><i>Kirby King</i></b></font>]] 20:49, April 8, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Against'''.  I've worked on this article a great deal, but I haven't really changed the focus of the article.  Thus, it's about as good of a technical article as you're going to get, but it's still nothing that the average smasher can / wants to read.  Paragraphs are more conducive to reading than lists, in my experience. {{User:MaskedMarth/sig}} 12:10, April 9, 2007 (GMT)
* '''Against'''. Really needs an introduction paragraph above the TOC, which is also ridiculously long. It's just too much for one article IMO. --[[User:Nealdt|nealdt]] 19:43, May 4, 2007 (GMT)
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