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| {{rfa close|successful|2=Despite a mostly divided consensus, Aidan has shown tremendous strength and leadership for the wiki by handling recent events involving our community on social media. Additionally, despite claims of temper problems, background checks have come up with nothing too major since their promotion to admin, and all other evidence on the opposing side has been investigated and determined to be relatively minor compared to all the good they've done for the wiki in recent months. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px red">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareSignatureImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:23, July 26, 2020 (EDT)|type=rfb}}
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| === [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidanzapunk]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aidanzapunk|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Aidanzapunk|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk (2)|passing RFA]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for bureaucratship/Aidanzapunk|RFB page]]) === | | === [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidanzapunk]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aidanzapunk|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Aidanzapunk|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk (2)|passing RFA]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for bureaucratship/Aidanzapunk|RFB page]]) === |
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| ''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for bureaucratship below.''<br> | | ''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for bureaucratship below.''<br> |
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| # I'm going to slap my '''support''' right here. I may not know the guy very well(but then, you don't need to know everyone in the first place), but me and Aidan do share similarities: autism, ADHD, temper issues, et cetera. This, along with his abilities and the legion of edits under his belt, would make for a rather... interesting crat. Other than this, the speed at which he can react to bad faith edits and put them in the dustbin where they certainly belong, tied with his experience, would make Aidan a great addition to the unfortunately pea-sized Bureaucrat roster. I have spoken. [[User:JustSomeCloudMain|JustSomeCloudMain who ain't interested]] ([[User talk:JustSomeCloudMain|talk]]) 17:38, July 8, 2020 (EDT) | | # I'm going to slap my '''support''' right here. I may not know the guy very well(but then, you don't need to know everyone in the first place), but me and Aidan do share similarities: autism, ADHD, temper issues, et cetera. This, along with his abilities and the legion of edits under his belt, would make for a rather... interesting crat. Other than this, the speed at which he can react to bad faith edits and put them in the dustbin where they certainly belong, tied with his experience, would make Aidan a great addition to the unfortunately pea-sized Bureaucrat roster. I have spoken. [[User:JustSomeCloudMain|JustSomeCloudMain who ain't interested]] ([[User talk:JustSomeCloudMain|talk]]) 17:38, July 8, 2020 (EDT) |
| #'''Support''' You're a great admin, and you have much experience and are quite fairly competent about how this wiki works and try to help it the best you can. I think you'd make a great bureaucrat. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 21:36, July 8, 2020 (EDT) | | #'''Support''' You're a great admin, and you have much experience and are quite fairly competent about how this wiki works and try to help it the best you can. I think you'd make a great bureaucrat. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Gamer</span>]] ([[User talk:Awesomelink234|talk]]) 21:36, July 8, 2020 (EDT) |
| #'''Support''' Having been on the chat op team for a while, I've come to learn that Aidan is a great administrator. While the outburst of emotions Alex linked was rather concerning, in my experience I have seen zero similar outbursts throughout my time on the wiki and the server. I fully believe Aidan is capable of being responsible enough not to have anything occur like this. Being nervous is a natural part of any application process so I don't believe that is enough reason to oppose this request. I suppose the over/undercompensation of judgement may be an issue, but to my knowledge I have never experienced anything of the sort. If anything I have seen Aidan give fair judgement on many situations both on-wiki and the server. I also feel like Aidan's communication point is being looked over without much thought. Aidan has great communication skills and is one of the few admins I've seen directly respond to any wiki-related situations outside of the wiki itself. I think communication is one of the biggest things the wiki lacks yet I feel like Aidan is definitely capable of pushing the wiki in the right direction. [[User:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:#850FFA; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Señor'''</span> <span style="color:#850FFA;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px green">'''Mexicano'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:SenorMexicano|<span style="color:lightpurple;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px lightgreen">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:04, July 11, 2020 (EDT)
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| #'''Support'''. Aidan has worked closely with me on a number of subjects, and there's never been a time where he hasn't been outstanding in the process. While I believe Alex and Toad's arguments warrant addressing, I think the benefits heavily outweigh his flaws. He's an amazing administrator on the wiki, and that's what counts in my opinion. He's extremely proactive, highly motivated to do his job, and I trust his judgment wholeheartedly. --[[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]][[User:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">'''Plague'''</span>]][[User talk:Plague von Karma|<span style="color: #e68;">''' von Karma'''</span>]][[File:PlagueSigImage.png|20px]] 20:42, July 15, 2020 (EDT)
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| #::::#It is '''rich''' to hear you go on about good judgement. I don't mean to discredit the argument, but this is massively hypocritical. | | #::::#It is '''rich''' to hear you go on about good judgement. I don't mean to discredit the argument, but this is massively hypocritical. |
| #:::::So yeah, I guess that's all I've got to say here. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 08:21, July 9, 2020 (EDT) | | #:::::So yeah, I guess that's all I've got to say here. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 08:21, July 9, 2020 (EDT) |
| #::::::I agree fully with the Miles thing in hindsight, but in terms of judgement yes I am aware of how hypocritical it sounds (just didn't say it aloud). However while I did probably go on about it more than I needed to, it is still something that is concerning not just from me but others as well. Anyway yeah moving on. [[File:001Toad.jpg|20px]] '''[[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Toαd</font>]]''' 09:04, July 9, 2020 (EDT)
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| #:::::::I would just like to point out (since this is something I see being done a lot) that [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tu_quoque whether or not OmegaToad's criticism is hypocritical has no bearing on its validity.] OmegaToad's judgement isn't relevant here, as he is not the one requesting a promotion. ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 09:23, July 9, 2020 (EDT)
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| #Gonna have to agree with Alex and Toad. I '''Oppose''' this. [[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]] [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Comic Sans MS;color: Red;">talk</span>'']])[[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] 21:19, July 8, 2020 (EDT) | | #Gonna have to agree with Alex and Toad. I '''Oppose''' this. [[File:S3AHAWK_Signature_icon_1.png|20px]] [[User:S3AHAWK|<span style="font-family: Arial;color:Blue;">S3AHAWK</span>]] ([[User talk:S3AHAWK|''<span style=" font-family: Comic Sans MS;color: Red;">talk</span>'']])[[File:S3AHAWK_signature_icon_2.png|20px]] 21:19, July 8, 2020 (EDT) |
| #Yeah, the guys above pretty much summed up my concerns. '''Oppose.''' '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 01:27, July 9, 2020 (EDT) | | #Yeah, the guys above pretty much summed up my concerns. '''Oppose.''' '''Your Senpai,''' [[User:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: red;">'''Iron'''</span>]] [[User talk:Iron Warrior|<span style="color: cyan;">'''Warrior'''</span>]] 01:27, July 9, 2020 (EDT) |
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| #As per the above opposes that already sum up my thoughts; not much else to add on my end that hasn't been said. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 05:16, July 9, 2020 (EDT) | | #As per the above opposes that already sum up my thoughts; not much else to add on my end that hasn't been said. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 05:16, July 9, 2020 (EDT) |
| #'''Oppose''' You need to go beyond SK's hiatus. Like why do you want it? It's a lot work for bureaucrats. It seems like in the future, you would end up getting intense scrutiny from users for one big mistake. Also, one of things that stopped me from supporting you is your judgement and that could hinder your ability to be a bureaucrat. And your weak points needs to be worked on. Not ready to be a bureaucrat in my eyes. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 05:42, July 9, 2020 (EDT) | | #'''Oppose''' You need to go beyond SK's hiatus. Like why do you want it? It's a lot work for bureaucrats. It seems like in the future, you would end up getting intense scrutiny from users for one big mistake. Also, one of things that stopped me from supporting you is your judgement and that could hinder your ability to be a bureaucrat. And your weak points needs to be worked on. Not ready to be a bureaucrat in my eyes. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 05:42, July 9, 2020 (EDT) |
| #:Well, as I've said before, this is not solely because of SK going on hiatus. This was also me rejudging my own abilities and reconsidering whether or not I thought I'd be ready for the position. It's really only four extra tools and one new responsibility, and, as I said to OmegaToad, "you're changing a user's name and giving slightly more people new powers, not taking on a whole new level of responsibility by gaining the power to prevent people from editing and remove pages entirely." Secondly, I've...yet to get intense scrutiny from users for any mistake I make? I definitely seem to recall one instance of at least one user calling me out on something I did (what that is, I can't say, as I don't remember), but it was never anything major, and I'd hope that the userbase has enough decency to not dogpile onto someone for a minor mistake (a big mistake is a different story, but, again, I can't think of anything major that I've screwed up on). Lastly, I addressed the weak points not because I need to work on them, but because they exist. They are ''disabilities'' and will always be present, they're not something I can "work on." They ''can'', however, be worked ''around''; I've had to deal with them all my life, so I know how to make things work in spite of them (and am still learning new ways to do so, even now). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 13:38, July 9, 2020 (EDT)
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| #Very sorry dude, I don't really wanna support your application. First off I wanna make clear that I am rather disgusted by the wiki's opinion that you are making this RfB because SK went inactive. That to me is a terrible reason to oppose. Instead, I'm opposing because as you yourself has said, your ability in judgement is a bit underwhelming. You are coming off as lacking confidence in yourself to handle the extra responsibilities that bureaucracy requires. I honestly think that you are a damn fine admin, but as a bureaucrat, you might need to sharpen those senses of yours just a little bit. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 18:53, July 10, 2020 (EDT)
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| #:I'll grant you that it's not the sole reason for the application, but it's not merely an "opinion" that SK's hiatus was at the very least a motivating factor in making this RfB. Aidan even admits as much in the application: '''''"So, admittedly, I didn't initially want to do this. I didn't think I'd be ready, especially given my tendency to ask other admins and crats what their opinions were on what was happening, either on the wiki or in the Discord server, and how it should be handled. And then both Disaster Flare and Serpent King went on hiatus. Though Disaster Flare would end up coming out of hiatus shortly after Serpent King started his, this effectively left Toomai as the sole crat, which he rightfully brought up concern towards."''''' ''[[User:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Alex the weeb|<span style="color: red;">'''Weeb'''</span>]]'' 19:11, July 10, 2020 (EDT)
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| #::Fair enough, but I still maintain that anything that has to do with the status of the wiki '''should not''' be used as grounds for voting negatively. But that seems to be what a lot of people are doing here, and that's what bugs me. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|🦊'''Furry Nation'''🐺]]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 19:17, July 10, 2020 (EDT)
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| #::I will also like to make it clear that I take back SK's hiatus as an oppose reason (and even still it wasn't my ''only'' reason for opposing), though still it was for a different reason. I always considered that the status of the wiki [[User:Monsieur Crow/What Makes An Admin#"We have too many admins"|makes a terrible opposing reason]]. The number of active staff has little to no effect on whether or not the candidate is capable of handling the position. [[File:Toad.png|20px]] [[User:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Omegα</font>]] [[User talk:OmegaToad64|<font color="blue">Toαd</font>]] 19:34, July 10, 2020 (EDT)
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| Well, considering that this is the first RfB I've been on the wiki to witness, I'm surprised at how polarized reception to yours seems to be. As of now I still support your RfB - I really do believe you'd make for a great bureaucrat - but after reading over the statements opposing it, there are a few thing that I'd like to discuss further.
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| Regarding the matter of your tone in this RfB, your seeming hesitance/self-doubt in becoming a bureaucrat: I totally get if you're nervous about it. Being a bcrat is a big responsibility, I know that I'd probably crap myself upon reaching that rank (if I ever do choose to pursue such a thing). Even though there's some legitimacy behind your statement that you cannot handle a bcrat's added responsibilities entirely alone (our current staff number is kind of low atm), and your hesitant tone can be interpreted as an acknowledgement of how significant these responsibilities are... there is something understandably concerning about how much time you spent seeming reluctant to become a bcrat. You said a part of presenting this RfB was hindsight and rethinking, but about what? What sort of things about yourself as an admin and potential recipient of bcrat tools did you rethink, and how did this make you confident enough to RfB? (This ties into points made against you involving using Serpent King's inactivity as leverage. While it does realistically put us in dire need of another bcrat, you've stated there's more to your RfB than just that: like what?)
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| Regarding the matter of your judgement: part of improving on personal problems is admitting they exist, which one must do before working to better oneself. This is why I understand that you spent plenty of time outlining your admittedly occasionally poor judgement in your RfB, and how working towards a good sense of judgement is core to becoming + being a good admin/bureaucrat. Judgement is always tricky - it's based on whatever evidence is at hand, and as you've mentioned, there are often cases where the best judgement is formed after the fact. However, it is undeniable that as tricky as it may be to develop, a strong sense of judgement is essential to being a bcrat, and in my opinion any role of power at all. You dwelled on your judgement to the point where, as someone desiring to support you, I must ask: how have you improved your sense of judgement so far, and how do you plan to further do so in the near future? Do these entail specific strategies you may employ when effective judgement is required in tricky scenarios?
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| The matters of your temper and readiness for this position aren't really my largest concerns. ''Don't get me wrong:'' there have certainly been points previously, as I have now learned, where your temper has been a cause for concern. I believe that people can change, and am willing to believe that this is something you'll manage with unimaginable scrutiny (such as the scrutiny bureaucrats ought to be subject to), considering the position you are vying to enter. However, if one of the specific things you have rethought before making this RfB is how to better manage your temper (not just as a bureaucrat, but in general), I'd appreciate you elaborating on such. In terms of your readiness, I'm essentially trying to help provide an opportunity for you to better explain why you ''are.'' Your activeness and contributions to the wiki speak volumes on their own - I just need you to show that you're a bit more determined about specifically becoming a bureaucrat than you seem to have done in your actual RfB.
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| I'm asking these questions to help you strengthen some of your RfB's weaker points, Aidan - I'll appreciate you answering my questions, and I hope everybody who's voiced their support or opposition will pay close attention to your responses. [[User:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:blue">'''Acgamer'''</span>]][[User talk:Acgamer28|<span style="font-family:Courier;color:red">'''28'''</span>]][[File:Acgamer28SignatureHead.png|20px]] 15:49, July 10, 2020 (EDT)
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| :As I mentioned, hindsight is a very good friend of mine, we've known each other for years. There are several times (for both the wiki and my persona life) where I've either attempted to make or flat out made a decision that could have probably been handled in an easier way—whether or not the end result was poor, that was dependent upon the situation, but usually, if something is brought to my attention, then I can very quickly agree with "it should have been done X way instead of Y." A good example, off the top of my head, is some of my very first edits on the wiki; while any new user can change over time, this still applies here, as, in hindsight, the way I handled reversions to my edits was poor, and it was very quickly brought to my attention that there were other ways to go about it. In regards to this RfB, I was initially (and I will emphasize initially here, because we're talking back when I was just starting out as an admin) hesitant about potentially continuing onto crat status, due to A. not feeling there was a need for one (I too am not a fan of the "why not?" reason for RfAs/RfBs) and B. not being confident in my own abilities as a moderator. Sometimes I'm aware of my own capabilities, but sometimes I'm not, and I surprise myself, and I rethought about my own abilities as a moderator (in the two years I've been one on the wiki and the three years I've been one in the Discord server), and came to the realization that I thought I had what it took to move one more step up.
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| :For your question about judgement, I will say that, over the two years I've been an admin, in communicating with other staff members, there's been a gradual shift from "I am uncertain as to how this should be done" to "this is what I think should be done, but let me know if you think otherwise," and even sometimes "I'm doing this of my own accord, and I will take the heat should people complain." As an example of the lattermost, I will not name names, but there was a particular user who received a six-month block for repeated actions, and when those six months were up (back in May of this year), they proceeded to return to the wiki and do exactly what they were blocked for, and upon discovering this, I gave them an infinite block, on the grounds that if a six-month block did nothing, anything other than infinite wouldn't have done anything either.
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| :If I may be frank for a moment, I'm surprised that my "temper" has been brought up as a major point, because I haven't really...had major temper problems? I mean, sure, there's the [[Talk:Bayonetta (SSBU)|occasional]] [https://familyguy.fandom.com/wiki/User_talk:Aidanzapunk#The_Wiggles outburst], as we have discovered, but even [[Talk:Helpless#Snake helpless trivia|other]] [[Talk:Super Mario Maker#Announced 3 Days After SMM's release|examples]] that could be taken as such (that I myself even mentioned in my RfA) aren't...really outbursts. I even asked other staff members if they've seen any temper issues with me, and I was met with a resounding "no," and Draco also commented on this in my second RfA, saying that "usually he handles his temper well, despite some recent exceptions" (in reference to the Bayonetta talk page). But to address your question about my temper, this could be said for just about anyone, but in terms of dealing with my own outbursts, I'm usually not the type to get noticeably "angry," per se, and even if I do, it's likely due to overstimulation (common in autistic people) or stress (which just about anyone is susceptible to), and I'm [[User talk:Smashedpotatoes/Archive 1#Now, let me explain myself...|quick to apologize]] if that ends up being the case.
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| :Part of the reason why I didn't immediately want to put this out after SK went on hiatus is because I didn't want things to seem rushed, and like I was pushing myself for a position that I didn't want. [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk|I've made some rash decisions in the past]], but, much like you, I firmly believe that people can change, and I believe that I have changed too, over the seven years I've been a user and the two that I've been an admin, and I believe that I'm ready for this position. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 16:54, July 10, 2020 (EDT)
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| Bumping. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:33, July 13, 2020 (EDT)
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| While I go through your edit history, I'd like to direct a couple questions to you that Serpent brought to my attention on my RfB: When deciding on the outcome of an RfA, what would be your approach to it? What red flags would you be keeping an eye out for and how would you observe the candidate? Naturally, Toomai and I would be cooperating with you on RfAs, but your personal thoughts on these matters will greatly sway my stance on this RfB. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Red;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px red">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:DisasterFlareSignatureImage.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 16:30, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
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| :I did majorly address this in the RfB itself (in both the judgement and communication sections), but: when deciding on the outcome of an RfA, I would consider a user's general place in the wiki community—someone doesn't necessarily have to have an everyday presence, but they should at least be able/willing to spend a decent amount of time on the wiki if they want to hold a position of power—as well as their own abilities as a moderator. I'd look out for any red flags brought up by people within the community, as well as signs of an insincere RfA (as I mentioned, "''You have to watch out for people who only want the admin status just to be an admin''[...]") and make my opinions accordingly. I am normally a very forgiving person when it comes to poor actions, though depending on how poor the actions in question were, the level of forgiveness varies. Conveniently, Serpent King himself also brought up these questions while I was working on this RfB (I mentioned that he proofread it before I posted it), so hopefully this and other things I mentioned will help with that. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:07, July 19, 2020 (EDT)
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