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{{rfa close|successful|Candiate has strong community support and seems to be on top of all the important qualities an admin should have. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Labbie 21:34, 25 March 2016 (EDT)}}
=== [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Disaster Flare (2)|RFA page]]) ===
=== [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Disaster Flare (2)|RFA page]]) ===
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>


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==== Support ====
==== Support ====
#Honestly, this guy's been pretty helpful and knowledgeable. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Unowninator|Unowninator]] ([[User talk:Unowninator|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Unowninator|contribs]]) 01:47, 4 March 2016 (EST)</small>
#Honestly, this guy's been pretty helpful and knowledgeable. {{unsigned|Unowninator|01:47, 4 March 2016 (EST)}}
#<s>'''Weak support'''</s>. DF has demonstrated the necessary professionalism, dedication, and temperament that admins require. While there have been a couple minor issues with [[SW:1RV]], I don't think it's extremely consequential, and I have no doubt in my mind the wiki would be much better off with Disaster Flare as an admin. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 09:32, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Weak support'''. DF has demonstrated the necessary professionalism, dedication, and temperament that admins require. While there have been a couple minor issues with [[SW:1RV]], I don't think it's extremely consequential, and I have no doubt in my mind the wiki would be much better off with Disaster Flare as an admin. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: orange;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 09:32, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#:Shifting to '''Support''' after thinking over it more. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen">'''Nyargle</span>]][[User talk:Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: green;">'''blargle'''</span>]] ([[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 17:31, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
#'''Support'''. Despite the recent blocking of a dangerous enough IP from which came several vandalism, I feel we could use another admin, knowing DF is almost always active (though rarely past midnight) and that there are times only SK is active, other times only Miles, and others times, but very rarely, Nyargle and OT. DF is also wise, dedicated and professional enough to fill for the job. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 10:53, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support'''. Despite the recent blocking of a dangerous enough IP from which came several vandalism, I feel we could use another admin, knowing DF is almost always active (though rarely past midnight) and that there are times only SK is active, other times only Miles, and others times, but very rarely, Nyargle and OT. DF is also wise, dedicated and professional enough to fill for the job. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|50px]] [[User:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''BeepYou'''</font>]], '''a user with no grammar at all :v''' [[User talk:BeepYou|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 10:53, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#<s>'''Support''' as per reasons above. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 11:49, 4 March 2016 (EST)</s>
#'''Support''' as per reasons above. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 11:49, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support'''. I'm not sure if we ''need'' more admins, but the number of admins should not be a deterrent for an RFA. In the months since his last RFA, DF has proven to be an active, knowledgeable, and helpful user who is capable of handling disputes, the major testing point for any potential admin. We may have a lot of admins, but you can never have too many. We would certainly be better off with DF as an admin than without. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 12:16, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support'''. I'm not sure if we ''need'' more admins, but the number of admins should not be a deterrent for an RFA. In the months since his last RFA, DF has proven to be an active, knowledgeable, and helpful user who is capable of handling disputes, the major testing point for any potential admin. We may have a lot of admins, but you can never have too many. We would certainly be better off with DF as an admin than without. <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 12:16, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support''' Echoing BeepYou. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:45, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support''' Echoing BeepYou. [[File:AidanzapunkSig1.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the Wandering Dragon Warrior'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSig2.png|20px]] 14:45, 4 March 2016 (EST)
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#:It's a valid argument, it's just not exactly true. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:55, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#:It's a valid argument, it's just not exactly true. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:55, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#::Fair enough. [[User:BaconMaster|<span style="color: Lime;">'''Bacon'''</span>]][[User talk:BaconMaster|<span style="color: ForestGreen;">'''Master'''</span>]][[File:BaconMasterPatSig.png|16px|link=]]<span style="color: Chartreuse;">'''Luck o' the Irish.'''</span> 21:00, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#::Fair enough. [[User:BaconMaster|<span style="color: Lime;">'''Bacon'''</span>]][[User talk:BaconMaster|<span style="color: ForestGreen;">'''Master'''</span>]][[File:BaconMasterPatSig.png|16px|link=]]<span style="color: Chartreuse;">'''Luck o' the Irish.'''</span> 21:00, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support''': I truly think that you are better than last time with your skills are improving, especially with your effective dispute handling. Great, useful user overall, who stays calm and cool. While we may need more admins, the request is quite rigorous and very hard to get, though less active admins means there would be more blind spots. However, you definitely deserved to become an admin. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 13:37, 11 March 2016 (EST)  
#'''Support''': While I'm not sure we need more admins at this time (although I noted that there is a blind spot to it), I truly think that you are better than last time with your skills are improving, especially with your effective dispute handling. Great, useful user overall, who stays calm and cool. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 20:57, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support''' He maybe inexperienced or troubled at times but he knows his way around. I would definitely give credit to his active participation and his positive growth within the wiki. Honestly Disaster Flare had the right stuff to become an admin in his first RfA in the first place. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Violin 21:57, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support''' He maybe inexperienced or troubled at times but he knows his way around. I would definitely give credit to his active participation and his positive growth within the wiki. Honestly Disaster Flare had the right stuff to become an admin in his first RfA in the first place. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Violin 21:57, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''As supportive as it gets'''. I was already confident with you the first time around, and given the work you've put in and what you have accomplished,  I see no reason for you to not be admin. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 08:24, 5 March 2016 (EST)
#'''As supportive as it gets'''. I was already confident with you the first time around, and given the work you've put in and what you have accomplished,  I see no reason for you to not be admin. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 08:24, 5 March 2016 (EST)
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#'''Support''' Flare is the one who welcomed me on the wiki at the beginning. So at first, I thought he must have been an admin, especially when I saw how he interacted on the wiki. When I learned he wasn't it came as a minor shock. He is often around when other admin aren't. All-in-all, this seems like a responsible person who knows what to say in various situations. [[User: RobSir_zx|<span style="color:orange">Rob</span><span style="color:blue">'''Sir '''</span>]] [[File:RobSir-sig.jpg|16px|link=http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/8/8d/G%26WTheme.ogg]] [[Special:Contributions/RobSir zx|<span style="color:red">zx</span>]] 12:05, 5 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Support''' Flare is the one who welcomed me on the wiki at the beginning. So at first, I thought he must have been an admin, especially when I saw how he interacted on the wiki. When I learned he wasn't it came as a minor shock. He is often around when other admin aren't. All-in-all, this seems like a responsible person who knows what to say in various situations. [[User: RobSir_zx|<span style="color:orange">Rob</span><span style="color:blue">'''Sir '''</span>]] [[File:RobSir-sig.jpg|16px|link=http://www.ssbwiki.com/images/8/8d/G%26WTheme.ogg]] [[Special:Contributions/RobSir zx|<span style="color:red">zx</span>]] 12:05, 5 March 2016 (EST)
#Last time, my points were not so... on point. Anyway, ever since you first failed, you've put on a tremendous amount of effort into helping improve the mainspace. Your specialty, dispute handling, is as strong as always. I will also take that your wikiskills have improved a lot after all this time with Serpent King. Finally, your wikipresence is more than satisfactory, and that's always a big bonus. So yeah, that's all I have to say. Other users have already lent their support, and I will agree with their own points and reasons in doing so. '''[[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Crimson">Drill Blaster Mark</font> <font color="Silver">2</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Black">(talk)</font>]]'' 15:35, 6 March 2016 (EST)
#Last time, my points were not so... on point. Anyway, ever since you first failed, you've put on a tremendous amount of effort into helping improve the mainspace. Your specialty, dispute handling, is as strong as always. I will also take that your wikiskills have improved a lot after all this time with Serpent King. Finally, your wikipresence is more than satisfactory, and that's always a big bonus. So yeah, that's all I have to say. Other users have already lent their support, and I will agree with their own points and reasons in doing so. '''[[User:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Crimson">Drill Blaster Mark</font> <font color="Silver">2</font>]]''' ''[[User talk:Drill Blaster Mark 2|<font color="Black">(talk)</font>]]'' 15:35, 6 March 2016 (EST)
#'''WOMBO COMBO Support''' Flare is one of the most useful people on this wiki. If he wasn't on this wiki, there would probably be someone trying to vandalize it. I've seen him undo vandalism, and he probably would make a good admin. Currently we only have four completely active admins (Toomai, Miles, Nyargle, and Serpent King). If we have this guy on the admin train, we would have less chaos. Good Job Disaster Flare. --[[File:FXSig.png]] [[User:Falcon-X|'''Falconian Leader''']] ([[User talk:Falcon-X#top|''Enter the Leader's Office'']]) 9:00, 11 March 2015 (EST)
#'''Reluctant support'''. I still see that you're a bit iffy around the edges given my previous points. Now that Smash 4 is done, things are slowing down quite a bit, consequently bringing some user activity to a halt or end. At this point, it's not like we can't handle vandalism, and on top of that it's easy to track. Many disputes that have occurred recently weren't in need of admins stepping in. At this point, this is RfA looks to be wanting to promote on a "why not" basis. This could be brought up in future RfAs and people will potentially link to this and say "Why not me, it happened with DF?" and that's gonna have to be dealt with. It's also kind of concerning that you haven't really stated good reasons why SW should want you, despite many people saying they want you, and the lack of linking to initial examples is kind of telling of their overall weakness. If this had come at an earlier time, and if you had followed the RfA better, I would be for you a bit more. At least for me, I'm very conflicted: I don't see a need for an admin, yet I think that overall you are qualified, and you would do good for the wiki. I'm not 100% on board with support, as this RfA has me a bit concerned for future RfAs if it passes, but I'm supporting nonetheless due to your credentials, overall community support, and my intuitive sense that you would be at least of decent help here. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 14:29, 18 March 2016 (EDT)


==== Oppose ====
==== Oppose ====
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#:I'll be more specific about some flaws you've shown. First, judging from the examples you've shown on your qualification page, it seems that you have no problem sticking your oar in, even when the discussion doesn't get very hostile. In the end, the situations seemed to turn out well, but it seems you need a better gauge of when something is going to turn nasty or not. Second, the Dragon Lunge thing. You removed a tag calling for the need of an image on the basis of the word of someone else. You don't do that, if you're going to do that, you actually should know it yourself and not just go by the word of someone else. Maybe the person was trustworthy, but in case you didn't know Fire Emblem, there is a good possibility that you will never see an aerial Dragon Lunge in ''Fates''. Maybe that was the fault of my tagging of it (though the game has been out for a while in Japan and it was explained in the origin, there was no source put). Knowing things is up to you to research and find yourself; it's fundamental. You don't seem to have played the game in the first place, or have enough knowledge of it. It also seems that you have a good deal of time on your hands, why not use it to research things yourself? I'm not saying you're a bad user, as you're a rather good user, it's just that you've shown some slight yet telling flaws demonstrating a lack of understanding in certain fundamentals of how things work. Yet even with that, you can still recognize that and strive to get better. So, that's my advice if you decide to stick with this. Honestly I think you have more potential than being an admin on a wiki site, but who am I to tell you what to do with your life/self. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 05:07, 4 March 2016 (EST)</s>
#:I'll be more specific about some flaws you've shown. First, judging from the examples you've shown on your qualification page, it seems that you have no problem sticking your oar in, even when the discussion doesn't get very hostile. In the end, the situations seemed to turn out well, but it seems you need a better gauge of when something is going to turn nasty or not. Second, the Dragon Lunge thing. You removed a tag calling for the need of an image on the basis of the word of someone else. You don't do that, if you're going to do that, you actually should know it yourself and not just go by the word of someone else. Maybe the person was trustworthy, but in case you didn't know Fire Emblem, there is a good possibility that you will never see an aerial Dragon Lunge in ''Fates''. Maybe that was the fault of my tagging of it (though the game has been out for a while in Japan and it was explained in the origin, there was no source put). Knowing things is up to you to research and find yourself; it's fundamental. You don't seem to have played the game in the first place, or have enough knowledge of it. It also seems that you have a good deal of time on your hands, why not use it to research things yourself? I'm not saying you're a bad user, as you're a rather good user, it's just that you've shown some slight yet telling flaws demonstrating a lack of understanding in certain fundamentals of how things work. Yet even with that, you can still recognize that and strive to get better. So, that's my advice if you decide to stick with this. Honestly I think you have more potential than being an admin on a wiki site, but who am I to tell you what to do with your life/self. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 05:07, 4 March 2016 (EST)</s>
#::Most of your oppose reasons seem rather minor, and what the user could do with his/her life/self is completely irrelevant here. Also "''In the end, the situations seemed to turn out well, but it seems you need a better gauge of when something is going to turn nasty or not.''". Admins need to be willing to "stick the oar in" to any discussion that seems like it might fly off the rails, whether it gets nasty or not. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 10:40, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#::Most of your oppose reasons seem rather minor, and what the user could do with his/her life/self is completely irrelevant here. Also "''In the end, the situations seemed to turn out well, but it seems you need a better gauge of when something is going to turn nasty or not.''". Admins need to be willing to "stick the oar in" to any discussion that seems like it might fly off the rails, whether it gets nasty or not. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 10:40, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#:::<s>That makes sense. I wrote this late at night, and it doesn't have a whole lot of sense to it. I'm going to change to '''support'''; while I feel there's enough admins, they're not around enough to deal with the rampant vandalism. Perhaps one more would be the magic number for admins @ SW. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 11:49, 4 March 2016 (EST)</s>
#:::That makes sense. I wrote this late at night, and it doesn't have a whole lot of sense to it. I'm going to change to '''support'''; while I feel there's enough admins, they're not around enough to deal with the rampant vandalism. Perhaps one more would be the magic number for admins @ SW. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 11:49, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Strongly oppose''': he framed me for vandalism [[Special:Contributions/70.199.65.228|70.199.65.228]] 11:31, 11 March 2016 (EST)


==== Neutral ====
==== Neutral ====
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#'''As neutral as it gets:''' We already have four reasonably active admins (plus one that shows up infrequently), which I think is enough for the time being (as well as for a wiki of this size). However, you do strike me as an exceptional candidate, so if this passes, who am I to stand in the way? --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 16:38, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''As neutral as it gets:''' We already have four reasonably active admins (plus one that shows up infrequently), which I think is enough for the time being (as well as for a wiki of this size). However, you do strike me as an exceptional candidate, so if this passes, who am I to stand in the way? --[[User:MeatBall104|<span style="color: red">'''''Meat'''''</span>]][[User talk:MeatBall104|<span style="color: orange">'''''Ball'''''</span>]][[Special:Contributions/MeatBall104|<span style="color:Gold">'''''104'''''</span>]] [[File:MB104Pic2.jpg|20px]] 16:38, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#<s>'''leaning to support''' i think we have enough sysops [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Pumpkin Pie 18:24, 4 March 2016 (EST)</s>
#<s>'''leaning to support''' i think we have enough sysops [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Pumpkin Pie 18:24, 4 March 2016 (EST)</s>
#'''Neutral'''. His [[Special:EditCount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] shows he contributed a lot to the wiki, but he didn't really display why SmashWiki should want him to be a sysop (I mean he didn't show why him having these abilities will improve SmashWiki). I don't think we ''need'' another admin (which isn't a good reason ''not'' to be an admin, if a user proves them self as helpful and as qualified as another admin, they shouldn't be disqualified because of this), but I can't imagine SmashWiki being worse off with him, as he seems pretty knowledgeable and professional. I don't see any harm either way. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 18:49, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#'''Neutral'''. His [[Special:EditCount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] shows he contributed a lot to the wiki, but he didn't really display why SmashWiki should want him to be a sysop. I don't think we ''need'' another admin (which isn't a good reason ''not'' to be an admin, if a user proves them self as helpful and as qualified as another admin, they shouldn't be disqualified because of this), but I can't imagine SmashWiki being worse off with him, as he seems pretty knowledgeable and professional. I don't see any harm either way. -- [[User:Ethan7|<span style="color:#000f55;font-family:Cursive;font-style:italic">Ethan</span>]][[file:Ethan7sig.png|20px|link=User:Ethan7]]<small>''([[User talk:Ethan7|<span style="color:Blue">Discussion</span>]])''</small> 18:49, 4 March 2016 (EST)
#<s>'''Neutral'''. DF is doing this RfA at an opportune time; we have a vandal problem, but vandals are easy to spot and their shit is easy to deal with. I also don't see what new DF can bring to the table (though that's not a requirement) and I don't see his dispute skills being that extraordinary (unless he can give any good examples). So on one hand, he's being smart with the timing, and he's done so much and is highly capable of being a good Admin; on the other hand, any other time (like the last) he wouldn't be needed, and there are some issues, namely lack of examples of dispute handling and some issues of logic I see with his editing. Hence my neutral stance. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:15, 6 March 2016 (EST)</s>


==== Comments ====
==== Comments ====
My only question: What do you think you add to the admin team? Right now we have a pretty balanced team - Miles has the seniority and wiki knowledge, Serpent King and Nyargle share "charismatic idea man", OT has the competitive knowledge, and Toomai has the strange ability to keep everyone under control and working together. What makes you think you could add something to this team to make it better? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  15:33, 4 March 2016 (EST)
My only question: What do you think you add to the admin team? Right now we have a pretty balanced team - Miles has the seniority and wiki knowledge, Serpent King and Nyargle share "charismatic idea man", OT has the competitive knowledge, and Toomai has the strange ability to keep everyone under control and working together. What makes you think you could add something to this team to make it better? <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|you]]. Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  15:33, 4 March 2016 (EST)
:Well firstly, my communication skills are typically really good, especially in debates and towards newer users. Granted, I will admit I've had some slipups, particularly in some of our spats (which I do apologize for letting my feelings take control in those situations). If I'm being honest, at the moment out of all the active admins, Serpent has the best communication skills, and even he himself has said mine are much better. Beyond that, I'm kinda like the "all colors of the rainbow" kind of aspect, when looking back at my history on the wiki. My competitive knowledge has been improving, my wiki markup and coding skills in general are pretty good these days, and I may be somewhat inaccurate here, but I've had history on not just SmashWiki, but also on three other wikis I can recall off the top of my head, so I'd like to say my wiki knowledge is about on par with Miles, maybe a bit less. Basically, in a nutshell, if there's a new obstacle, I'm willing to overcome it and take it to improve myself not just as a user, but as a person as well. I want to be able to help better the wiki in every way possible, not just in one category. Hope this helps. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:43, 4 March 2016 (EST)
:Well firstly, my communication skills are typically really good, especially in debates and towards newer users. Granted, I will admit I've had some slipups, particularly in some of our spats (which I do apologize for letting my feelings take control in those situations). If I'm being honest, at the moment out of all the active admins, Serpent has the best communication skills, and even he himself has said mine are much better. Beyond that, I'm kinda like the "all colors of the rainbow" kind of aspect, when looking back at my history on the wiki. My competitive knowledge has been improving, my wiki markup and coding skills in general are pretty good these days, and I may be somewhat inaccurate here, but I've had history on not just SmashWiki, but also on three other wikis I can recall off the top of my head, so I'd like to say my wiki knowledge is about on par with Miles, maybe a bit less. Basically, in a nutshell, if there's a new obstacle, I'm willing to overcome it and take it to improve myself not just as a user, but as a person as well. I want to be able to help better the wiki in every way possible, not just in one category. Hope this helps. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:43, 4 March 2016 (EST)
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::::::And that explanation doesn't help. I'm referring to the initial RfA's text, which makes nary a mention of your dispute handling skills. Blah blah blah contributions. Contributing a lot means little. Just look at Miles. Or countless others that have the editing skills, but not the judgement. But eh, minor detail, might or might not make or break your RfA. Still underhanded, I expect a CV to contain as much as possible.
::::::And that explanation doesn't help. I'm referring to the initial RfA's text, which makes nary a mention of your dispute handling skills. Blah blah blah contributions. Contributing a lot means little. Just look at Miles. Or countless others that have the editing skills, but not the judgement. But eh, minor detail, might or might not make or break your RfA. Still underhanded, I expect a CV to contain as much as possible.


::::::And before people get the wrong idea: I'm not doing this to troll or to intentionally ruin your RfA. I'm doing this because we need more than janitor admins. [[Special:Contributions/64.62.219.168|64.62.219.168]] 16:31, 6 March 2016 (EST)
::::::And before people get the wrong idea: I'm not doing this to troll or to intentionally ruin your RfA. I'm doing this because <s>I'm bored as fuck</s> we need more than janitor admins. [[Special:Contributions/64.62.219.168|64.62.219.168]] 16:31, 6 March 2016 (EST)


::::::Also, excellent work at not providing more examples. Are you trying to hide something from us? [[Special:Contributions/64.62.219.76|64.62.219.76]] 16:36, 6 March 2016 (EST)
::::::Also, excellent work at not providing more examples. Are you trying to hide something from us? [[Special:Contributions/64.62.219.76|64.62.219.76]] 16:36, 6 March 2016 (EST)
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:::::::Yeah, I definitely feel you on that. Side note, if you don't want people to think you're doing this because you're bored as fuck, don't put that you're bored as fuck in the first place lol (<s>we can still read what you crossed out</s>) [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:04, 6 March 2016 (EST)
:::::::Yeah, I definitely feel you on that. Side note, if you don't want people to think you're doing this because you're bored as fuck, don't put that you're bored as fuck in the first place lol (<s>we can still read what you crossed out</s>) [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:04, 6 March 2016 (EST)


::::::::Twas intended to be but a stupid joke. But I can easily see why people would take it the wrong way. Removed. [[Special:Contributions/64.62.219.76|64.62.219.76]] 17:07, 6 March 2016 (EST)
So before I get started, I'd like to establish that I'm not the IP. Honestly, all of you jump to conclusions. If you're going to try to be some detective who is "on the hunt to figure out what this Mega scoundrel is doing", maybe put some thought into it first. The IP prose is completely different from what I usually do, but hey, I guess you can all assume that I'm some sorta mastermind who can do this for shits and giggles.
That aside, this entire situation is pretty dull. Follows the same exact route that [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/ToastUltimatum (2)|another RFA]] followed, with the mass amount of community support with almost no objections to promotion. Now, do I really care about whether or not he's going to be a capable admin who can handle disputes. The answer is no, I don't.
But what I do want to bring up is that the main consensus for making him admin could be summed up as "better safe than sorry". He's not going to mess things up, and he'll cover the times that Serpent King isn't active. Of course, that just makes me wonder: Why aren't the other three admins responding for him? Is it the fear of "being rude"? I really do want to know why the other three admins aren't just doing stuff for him. I'd also like to ask if we're just gonna promote people every time the current admins start feeling overwhelmed. It's a slippery slope comment, but hey, it's something to think about. <span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|19px]] 17:08, 6 March 2016 (EST)
:You made a pretty good point there. Most of the support votes do say that we need another admin just because the others are not as active. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Calvin and Hobbes 17:14, 6 March 2016 (EST)
::Makes me question adminship. I mean, the admins here signed up for it, they have a responsibility now. One time I saw OT caught up doing his own thing while people were like "Hey, there's a vandal, you're an admin, can deal with it please?" after like 20 mins of dealing with the sucker. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:28, 6 March 2016 (EST)
:::A similar situation would be where we had three candidates for adminship on October 2015 because of a massive vandal attack. Having Disaster Flare become admin would increase coverage but many RfAs '''have to''' also consider the user being effective for user disputes, and a lot of RfAs failed due to not showing proper dispute skills. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Uber 17:36, 6 March 2016 (EST)
::::I wish I could see more examples of his supposed dispute skills because I'm not really convinced. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 17:40, 6 March 2016 (EST)
:::::I don't think of his dispute handling skills, or that he absolutely needs to be an admin when I think of DF. When I think of DF, I think helpful, high contributing, and calm and collected, and adminship isn't required to be like that. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 19:14, 6 March 2016 (EST)
::::::Personally, I think you're being overly critical. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 19:37, 6 March 2016 (EST)
:::::::What's wrong with being critical? This is a big decision to make for SW as a whole. DF is a great user, heads above most, but he's yet to show real incentive for adminship. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 19:42, 6 March 2016 (EST)
<small>(reset indent)</small> I've given some thought before replying (mainly because I didn't want to end up saying the wrong thing and sounding bad somehow). This is directed to everyone who still has their doubts about me. I have nothing to hide. I will gladly lay out my entire history on the wiki. I will spend hours just trying to find good examples to show you when I'm asked. If it's still not enough, I implore you to look through my contributions, which you can locate [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|here]]. If my history is still not enough to convince those who are neutral, opposing, or even leaning toward oppose, then I dunno what will, but since some have asked for more examples of conflict resolution, I'll lay some more out that I can immediately recall off the top of my head. [[User talk:Nightgengale#I_assume good faith...|This]], [[User talk:Drilly Dilly/Archive 1#Two things you need to check out.|this]], and [[User talk:John3637881#Roy|this]] are three more examples of conflicts that I solved. If you need any further evidence of my conflict resolution skills, please don't hesitate to let me know. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:53, 8 March 2016 (EST)
:@SilenceExpectoratah: He didn't take issue to you being critical, he said you were overly critical. 1) Bump. 2) This is going great so far *knocks on wood* 18 support, 6 neutral, and no oppose. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 15:17, 12 March 2016 (EST)
::I'm still remaining neutral. The given examples are fine I guess, nothing extraordinary but something nonetheless. I don't see what's wrong with being "overly critical" about this situation, and I don't really see a need for another admin - it still seems like a "why not" sort of thing, which I don't see as a good reason. Also, I find it pretty sus that the 3 other active admins haven't commented, when they have commented on RfAs in the past. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 16:39, 12 March 2016 (EST)
:::Then you, sir, have not seen the 1 and a half hour vandal attacks that none of the current admins have been on. However, during most, if not all of these attacks, DF has been on. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 18:05, 12 March 2016 (EST)
::::Umm, he's not a vandal? An IP with a dumb reason to oppose an RfA, yes, but not a vandal? [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 20:41, 12 March 2016 (EST)
::::Yeah sorry about that. I have been sick so I haven't been on as much. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 20:36, 12 March 2016 (EST)
:::::...except I'm not talking about that? [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 21:02, 12 March 2016 (EST)
::::::Link me instead of assuming I know then lol [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 21:03, 12 March 2016 (EST)
:::::::I hid the link because of [[SW:QDV]] so... <!--Look at [[User:Tyler trash]]'s contributions and all the versions of Tony biscuit.--> [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 21:06, 12 March 2016 (EST)
::::::::Guys this is about DF's RfA and nothing else. This is going way off topic. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 21:09, 12 March 2016 (EST)
Giving this a big ol' bump <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #0b7">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #fd0">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:10, 17 March 2016 (EDT)
:Yes I know this exists. I'm leaning towards support/pass at the moment but need to do some original research first. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Pan-Galactic 11:03, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
::If you look at his contributions, I'm pretty sure you would say you would pass this but yeah, I'm expecting deeper thought than just that. [[User:Dots|<font color="red">'''D'''</font><font color="green">'''o'''</font><font color="blue">'''t'''</font><font color="purple">'''s'''</font>]] ([[User talk:Dots|talk]]) [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] The Shiny red nose 11:32, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
While I am reluctantly supporting, I have some doubts so here's my questions: Why do you want to be admin? Why are you pursuing adminship? Do you see it as an accomplishment, a responsibility, a milestone, a way to help the wiki, an authoritative position, a title, a means of management, a position of power, a conduit of control, an apparatus for access to tools, or something else? How do you intend to use adminship for the betterment of the wiki? Answer without including the manageable and declining vandal problem. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 16:57, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
:There's actually a lot of intentions that go behind why I want to be an admin. Yes, I see it as an accomplishment, I see it as a very large responsibility, a milestone, a way to help the wiki, an authoritative position, a title, etc. Granted, yes, it can be a position of power, a conduit of control, and an apparatus for access to tools, but unless you phrased them wrong, those reasons almost sounds like you just want power, which is not what I want. Yes, if I succeed, I would be getting power, but I plan to use that power to help the wiki for the better. Look at the things to do tab for starters. It has greatly increased over time, and why? Because no one's doing them. I have been one of the bigger contributors to that to keep it down as much as I can, but I believe I can do even better at that job in the position of adminship. From what I've seen (and this is not to hate, this is a general statement and I'd prefer this to be considered a neutral statement), Serpent's really the only admin actually doing anything right now. Yeah, Miles and Nyargle have helped with tagging things and the occasional vandal, but OT's basically absent 90% of the time and the other admins have been inactive for years. I can recount a number of big projects Serpent has taken part in over the past few months, and as I've said before, my biggest goal is to take some of that weight off his chest, since he can only be on for so long while I'm on pretty much all day, and if there were something I can't do to help the wiki, I can always ask the other admins for help and their words of wisdom. I know adminship will be a new learning experience, I know it's a big responsibility, but I'm fully ready and willing to accept that responsibility if I am to be promoted, no matter how difficult the obstacle. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 22:57, 18 March 2016 (EDT)
::You answered part of the question as I hoped and part of the question as I suspected. Yes, adminship is pretty much all those things. The thing that's missing is that the only real reason you give for SW to want you to be admin is to pick up the slack of the other admins. Granted, what's the situation? Smash 4 is done with development, hence the activity here is dwindling to a degree. I can see why admins won't have much incentive to invest their valuable time here, even if they do have a responsibility. If someone like you is qualified and really wants this and desires to cover the times when there is some slack or dry period, which is now, then I don't see a reason to oppose. I'm still a bit wary, but I appreciate the answer. [[User:MuteSpittah|MuteSpittah]] ([[User talk:MuteSpittah|talk]]) 07:43, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
: DF, here is a question. If a Good Faith user makes a sock account but the sock account is active and makes good faith edits too, what do you do? [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Pumpkin Pie 11:42, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
::@MuteSpittah: Yes, one of my main goals is to pick up the forgotten projects during the dry period (hence one of the reasons why I submitted the application when I did), as I have no plans to ditch the wiki during the dry period.
::@Poultry: Could you please elaborate? Do you mean if both the original and sock are active or do you mean if the original is inactive and the other is active in its place? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 11:52, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
:::They are both active and good faith, but still socks [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Pumpkin Pie 14:29, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
::::At that point, I'd tell them on whichever one they use more the existence of SW:SOCK and then ask them to choose which account they'd like to keep. After they've chosen, I'll infinitely block the account they didn't choose. It's honestly fairly straightforward. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:35, 19 March 2016 (EDT)
:at this point, i think that this is going to pass  [[File:PoultrysigSSB4.png|20x50px]][[User:Poultry|<font color="red">'''Poultry'''</font>]][[File:PoultrysigSSBM.png|20x50px]]''([[User talk:Poultry#top|<font color="blue">talk</font>]])'' the Team Liquid  10:09, 23 March 2016 (EDT)
::Ehh, I wouldn't jump to conclusions. There are still a few people who haven't seen this. [[User:Penro|'''Penro''']][[File:PenroDarkPitHead.png|19px]] [[File:PenroZSSHead.png|19px]] 10:16, 23 March 2016 (EDT)
::Should I get Oliver? (Assuming you see this, if you find this rude I apologize in advance). [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: green;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 17:52, 23 March 2016 (EDT)
:::Eh, if OT wants to vote, he'll vote. I would advise against pestering him about it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:54, 23 March 2016 (EDT)
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