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{{Rfa close|failed|It's close, but ultimately I have to say "not yet" to this proposal. Candidate is certainly on the right track in pretty much all ways, but based on the response from the userbase, is just not there yet. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Golden 09:59, 21 November 2015 (EST)}}
=== [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Disaster Flare|RFA page]]) ===
=== [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Disaster Flare|RFA page]]) ===
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>


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#:Yeah. I still remember the bulbaboy days of DF... [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px red"><font face="Times New Roman">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">'''''(Talk • '''''</font>]][[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">'''''Contribs)'''''</font>]]</sup></font></span> 07:21, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Yeah. I still remember the bulbaboy days of DF... [[file:INoMedssig.png|20px]] <span style="text-shadow:0px 0px 3px red"><font face="Times New Roman">[[User:INoMed|<font color="red">'''INoMed'''</font>]] <sup>[[User talk:INoMed|<font color="red">'''''(Talk • '''''</font>]][[User:INoMed/Contribs|<font color="red">'''''Contribs)'''''</font>]]</sup></font></span> 07:21, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#::Those were dark times...kidding, kidding. XD Really the way I see it, the name Bulbaboy was me as a child, and Disaster Flare is me growing up. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:59, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#::Those were dark times...kidding, kidding. XD Really the way I see it, the name Bulbaboy was me as a child, and Disaster Flare is me growing up. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:59, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:'''Switching to Very, VERY Strong Support.''' You're probably the best dispute handler on the wiki. Also, all of the admins at this point are dysfunctional right now: one is never active when we need them, one has a shaky reputation, one only really helps with vandals and janitorial work, and one makes 90KB worth of bickering all the time. You are the one we need. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 11:36, 11 November 2015 (EST)
#::Sorry I haven't been able to respond to this (I've been trying to respond to all messages on here), this one's just difficult to reply to. I can't agree with your claims on our current admins, but I also can't disagree either. I'm remaining neutral in response, mainly because I don't wanna show any favoritism/hostility towards any of them. Thank you for the continued support however. :D [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 04:51, 14 November 2015 (EST)
#:Ok, just for clarification, I apologize if I came off as inflammatory to any of the sysops/bureaucrat who were mentioned and are aware they were, but quite honestly their flaws are not something to sugarcoat. My main point is DF is one of a kind as a user. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 07:34, 14 November 2015 (EST)
#'''Support''' I...haven't got much to say, honestly. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 07:12, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#'''Support''' I...haven't got much to say, honestly. [[File:Aidanzapunksignature.png|20px]][[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: black;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: orange">'''Master of Speed and Aura'''</span>]][[File:AidanzapunkSignaturesmall.PNG]] 07:12, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Well do you have any ideas on how I can improve? I could really use the advice. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 20:13, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Well do you have any ideas on how I can improve? I could really use the advice. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 20:13, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
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#'''Support.''' You've recently proven multiple times you know how to settle disputes, and you have experience with wikis. Good luck! <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 16:40, 30 October 2015 (EDT)
#'''Support.''' You've recently proven multiple times you know how to settle disputes, and you have experience with wikis. Good luck! <b>[[User:john3637881|<span style="color: black;">John</span>]]</b> [[File:John3637881 Signature.png|20px]] <b>[[User talk:John3637881|<span style="color: red;">PK SMAAAASH!!</span>]]</b> 16:40, 30 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Thanks, good look on your future edits. :D [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:11, 30 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Thanks, good look on your future edits. :D [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:11, 30 October 2015 (EDT)
#<s>'''Weak support'''.</s>Really becoming more active in the wiki, and participating in major projects (like depreciating the Smasher pages.) [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: blue">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] Let's go Mets! ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 10:48, 1 November 2015 (EST)
#'''Weak support'''. Really becoming more active in the wiki, and participating in major projects (like depreciating the Smasher pages.) [[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color: blue">'''Nyargle'''</span><span style="color: orange">'''blargle'''</span>]] Let's go Mets! ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]]<span style="font-weight:bold;">&nbsp;·</span> [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 10:48, 1 November 2015 (EST)
#:Trust me, it won't end there. I have some big plans for the Tripping and Pokémon Universe page. :D [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:53, 1 November 2015 (EST)
#:Trust me, it won't end there. I have some big plans for the Tripping and Pokémon Universe page. :D [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:53, 1 November 2015 (EST)
#::Shifting to '''support'''. OT made a good point about edit counts (my main concern before) not being particularly relevant to a user's ability, especially in this case. [[File:Nyargleblargle.png|16px]][[User: Nyargleblargle|<span style="color:LawnGreen;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #ffa500">'''Nyargle</span><span style="color: orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 2px #7cfc00;">blargle'''</span>]] ([[User talk:Nyargleblargle|Talk]] | [[Special:Contributions/Nyargleblargle|Contribs]]) 16:33, 17 November 2015 (EST)
#'''Weak Support''': Your answer was, in my opinion, satisfactory. I do like lenience in newer users, especially if they are being harassed anyway. I am convinced of your dispute handling skills at this time. You've also increased your edit count...but in doing so, you've fallen down the one pitfall that prevents this from being a full support: Many of your edits are the same, short, simple, edit applied to a group of pages. Try going for more substantial things. I would like to see some page and template creation out of you too before fully supporting this. But hey, you've budged me twice, and trust me, that's not a typically easy thing to do. I tend to stand firm. Well done and best of luck. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 01:56, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#:Thank you, while I will agree that most of my edits are like that, one thing I struggle with is finding ways I can make substantial edits (Though one such example of a way I have done it is on the Pokémon Universe page, though it does need cleaning up most likely). Another thing I struggle with is finding new pages I can create or creating a template that actually can and will be helpful to the wiki, so I try my best to look around for ways to help. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 02:02, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#'''Slight Support''' You are getting better at the wiki. I love when you take on ambitious projects, although your edits are kind of simplistic. Keep it up and good luck. You earned my trust. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 23:12, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#:Thank you for the support, I do wanna say that I do wanna take on bigger projects, but there's the matter of finding those projects first, y'know? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:15, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#'''extreme support''' what is not to love about this guy [[User:Nintendofan1653|Nintendofan1653]] ([[User talk:Nintendofan1653|talk]]) 09:41, 21 November 2015 (EST)


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#:::While I do see your point, I have been trying to be more active on the mainspace, and I plan on reaching 1000 soon. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:54, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:::While I do see your point, I have been trying to be more active on the mainspace, and I plan on reaching 1000 soon. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:54, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#::::Update: Just to keep everyone up to speed, in total edit count, I just reached 1000 today. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:38, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
#::::Update: Just to keep everyone up to speed, in total edit count, I just reached 1000 today. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 14:38, 28 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Miles, I urge you to reevaluate this vote. DF has made some significant improvement over the last few weeks, and I am now much more convinced of his ability to handle adminship. At the very least, I would like you to explain more indepth the reason for opposing this RfA. <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 18:34, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#::Lack of experience continues to be the deciding factor for me for the time being. Again, DF has done nothing to indicate that he would be a bad admin per se, but I feel that he needs more experience with both wikis generally and with SmashWiki specifically before adminship would be appropriate. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:41, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#:::Well if it makes you feel any better Miles, Serpent is showing me the ropes on coding. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:47, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#::::Indeed. He can make tables now! <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 23:53, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#:::::And that's the kind of progress I hope you continue to make, and which may make you a good candidate for a future RfA. However, I think this one is a bit too soon for me to feel comfortable supporting you. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:54, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#::::::I fully understand and I respect your opinion. I will do my best to get better. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:55, 9 November 2015 (EST)
#'''Oppose''': I took a look through your history, and you don't seem to have any blemishes on your record. However, I'm not particularly impressed either; I only managed to find a few instances of you getting involved in a conflict or talking about a proposal, and I didn't see you add anything really substantial nor anything that really demonstrates the strength of your judgement. You don't appear to be a bad candidate, you may even be one of the better candidates at the moment, but a wiki shouldn't ever promote on a "why not?" basis, and I need to be convinced you gaining adminship would benefit the wiki beyond just giving it another person to ban vandals and take out the trash. I'm open to being convinced differently if you want to try. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/User_talk:Disaster_Flare/Archive_2#So_I_noticed_the_bit_on_your_userpage_about_being_stressed_out_over_your_RfA However], I suggest you not stressing yourself out so hard to "prove yourself", do not let the wiki consume you and do not put it at such a high priority for yourself, if you're capable of being admin it will show soon enough. One more thing for everyone else, edit count means absolutely nothing for one admin's capabilities, it should never be an argument for nor against someone. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:49, 14 November 2015 (EST)
#:I first want to apologize for not getting to this sooner, I meant to but things came up. Anyway, I want to start by agreeing with most of the things you've said, yes I don't make a point to be more part in conflict resolution or proposals. I would give you my word saying I would become a bigger part, but I know my word just won't cut it, and you need visual evidence before you can trust what I say. I will say however that I definitely want to be more part of things like that, there's just the matter of being at the right place at the right time, but I always try to scout the RC for anything I can help out with, whether it be vandals, expanding upon articles, uploading images, etc. Even when I'm not logged in, I still have a tendency to scout the RC just in case, that way I can quickly log in if something's wrong. I will also say that yes, while I was stressed about my RfA and about proving myself at first, in the process I have learned when I need to back off from the wiki, and I try to not let it take over my life. Now, probably the question you're wondering most: "Why do you think you would make a worthy admin?"
#:Not that it would help sway your opinions at all, but one quality that really helps out is that I tend to be on longer during the day than the admins, even to really late at night. This is due to the fact that I'm a night owl, and I prefer to stay up at night to help me think better, which helps especially with articles. Now, this does not mean it consumes my life, as I also use any quiet time to take a break and work on my webcomic or something. I also know that I don't exactly have the experience you're looking for, but whether this RfA passes or fails, I still want to improve. Serpent King's already teaching me more advanced code so I can better help around the wiki. He's been a very valuable mentor to me and I'm happy to work with him. I know your main concern is me just being another janitor. Heck, even I don't want that, and I've been trying hard to make sure that it doesn't. Like, okay, so even when I'm offline, I'm still working in a way, not just because I'd still be patrolling the RC, but also because I tend to work on drafts for things while I'm offline, or use it to think about creating my first template and what it would be. I want to improve, not just for the wiki, but for myself as well, and even if the application does fail, I'll take what I've learned from you and everyone else and use it to figure out what I need to improve on before I should make another attempt, that way I don't accidentally make a new one too soon, only to make a complete fool of myself. But again, I know just my word alone won't cut it, which is why I'll keep doing what I normally do, but better. Another thing I'd like to point out on why I'd be a good candidate is because of my general pacifism on the wiki, mostly during conflicts and whenever users are pushing me around. I try my best to stay as calm as possible during it, while trying to solve the conflict in the process. I gained this ability from my cousin actually (Her and I have never been on good terms, so in order to prevent a fight from breaking out, I had to learn to control my irritability, and I try my very best to not let anger show on the wiki, regardless of how much something may bother me. If you have any questions or anything else that you need to help further prove that I'm a candidate, then please do not hesitate to let me know. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 04:36, 15 November 2015 (EST)
#:[[User:Disaster Flare/Qualifications|For you and anyone else who's having second thoughts or having trouble deciding]]. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:57, 16 November 2015 (EST)
#::I read through your response, and the qualification page you filled out. However, I remain unconvinced you would be a fully competent admin that wouldn't just be a handy janitor. Your linked examples of dispute resolution skills really didn't do anything to change my prior judgment. And I don't think pacifism is a beneficial trait for an admin; an admin needs to be fully willing to get involved in conflicts, confront users, and be willing to be strict when problems arise. However, I do think you have potential, and will be observing you for the coming months, to better gauge your admin capabilities for when you make another RfA down the line. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[File: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:13, 16 November 2015 (EST)
#:::In hindsight, pacifism was a poor choice for a word, as I have confronted in the past, but nonetheless, I thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you again in the coming months. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:27, 16 November 2015 (EST)
#Changing my vote again to '''oppose'''. Simply put, your comment that you have been trying to impress people just goes to further my point. But whether or not you do stop it if you're promoted, it means you weren't, and as far as I can tell still aren't, ready for admin powers. You shouldn't have to ''try''; if you were ready to handle a position of power like this, it would come more naturally. And as much as I hate receiving this type of answer, I'm forced to give it: wait. Stick around. Stop trying so hard, and just be a part of the community. Until it's clear that you're ready and not just because you've been striving to be perfect, I can't support this. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  22:10, 18 November 2015 (EST)
#:I will admit, trying to impress people isn't exactly what I've been trying to do anymore, with it really only being used at the very beginning. However, after seeing what you and Omega had to say, I do see a point of I may not exactly be ready after all yet, which is why I'm considering withdrawing the application. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:25, 19 November 2015 (EST)
#::I think I'll wait however, I'd rather know what Toomai thinks. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 04:12, 20 November 2015 (EST)


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#:Not a problem, again, I don't mind if I fail. If I do I'll at least have come out of it knowing what I need to improve upon. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:37, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Not a problem, again, I don't mind if I fail. If I do I'll at least have come out of it knowing what I need to improve upon. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:37, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#::That didn't go so well for me, lol. <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  02:36, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
#::That didn't go so well for me, lol. <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  02:36, 27 October 2015 (EDT)
#<s>'''Neutral leaning to oppose''': The honest truth? I have only seen you active recently. Your edit count is below 1000, and I have yet to see dispute handling skills from you. This was too soon, become a more active part of our wiki then try again. Now, this vote ''can'' be swayed either direction. Start participating in and resolving disputes, make more substantial edits, and keep up your good work with rollback and I may consider changing to support. Ignoring this will most likely result in my moving to oppose in the long run.</s> [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 00:44, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#<s>'''Neutral leaning to oppose'''</s>: The honest truth? I have only seen you active recently. Your edit count is below 1000, and I have yet to see dispute handling skills from you. This was too soon, become a more active part of our wiki then try again. Now, this vote ''can'' be swayed either direction. Start participating in and resolving disputes, make more substantial edits, and keep up your good work with rollback and I may consider changing to support. Ignoring this will most likely result in my moving to oppose in the long run. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 00:44, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Yeah, that's what I've trying to do the last week. I perfectly see your point though, and I will try my best to become a bigger part of the wiki, regardless of whether this succeeds or fails. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:47, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Yeah, that's what I've trying to do the last week. I perfectly see your point though, and I will try my best to become a bigger part of the wiki, regardless of whether this succeeds or fails. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:47, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#::<s>Changing to '''Neutral''' because you handled [[User_talk:Drilly_Dilly/Archive 1#Two_things_you_need_to_check_out.|this]] (among other recent disputes) perfectly.</s> [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 01:14, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
#::Changing to '''Neutral''' because you handled [[User_talk:Drilly_Dilly/Archive 1#Two_things_you_need_to_check_out.|this]] (among other recent disputes) perfectly. [[User:Serpent King|<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px; color:rgb(220, 85, 0); text-shadow:0px 0px 3px DarkGray;">Serpent<span style="font-size:12pt;>∞</span>King</span>]] [[User talk:Serpent King|(<span style="font-family:Chiller; font-size:18px;">talk</span>)]] 01:14, 29 October 2015 (EDT)
#:::His edit count is now above 1000 and he also fixed the deprecated code of all Smasher pages (well not without me doing a lot too but..). He also added trophy descriptions for the majority of items. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 15:32, 2 November 2015 (EST)
#:::His edit count is now above 1000 and he also fixed the deprecated code of all Smasher pages (well not without me doing a lot too but..). He also added trophy descriptions for the majority of items. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 15:32, 2 November 2015 (EST)
#::::Correction, all of them (at least to my knowledge). I've also been the sole contributor to the list of tripping attacks from SSB4, added trophy info for Poké Ball Pokémon and Assist Trophies, and I'm currently checking prerelease images. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px hotpink">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:35, 2 November 2015 (EST)
#::::Correction, all of them (at least to my knowledge). I've also been the sole contributor to the list of tripping attacks from SSB4, added trophy info for Poké Ball Pokémon and Assist Trophies, and I'm currently checking prerelease images. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px hotpink">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:35, 2 November 2015 (EST)
#<s>'''Neutral leaning towards oppose'''. Only ever seen you until now, and you don't seem very active either.</s> Removing my vote as I don't feel educated enough to have a say in this. Simply just because I didn't do my homework, so I shouldn't have the choice of this :P [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 02:47, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral leaning towards oppose'''. Only ever seen you until now, and you don't seem very active either. [[User:F0rZ3r0F0r|F0rZ3r0F0r]] ([[User talk:F0rZ3r0F0r|talk]]) 02:47, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:On the contrary, I do try to get on every day now for the past month, but noted regardless. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 03:06, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:On the contrary, I do try to get on every day now for the past month, but noted regardless. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 03:06, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Uhh...wha? [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 18:06, 17 November 2015 (EST)
#::People will sometimes just retract a vote entirely. It's not an impossible thing, so. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 18:07, 17 November 2015 (EST)
#'''Oppositionally neutral'''. You do a lot. Do more. You're a vertebrate. Show us your backbone. Repeat. Keep repeating for a long time. Then apply again. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 04:30, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#'''Oppositionally neutral'''. You do a lot. Do more. You're a vertebrate. Show us your backbone. Repeat. Keep repeating for a long time. Then apply again. '''''[[User:Aardvarkian|<span style="color:purple;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">Aardvarkian</span>]]''''' <span style="color:blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px">'''''[[User Talk:Aardvarkian|(Talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Aardvarkian|Contributions)]]''''' </span> 04:30, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:That's what I'll do, but I'd like to see how this turns out first before I go thinking about applying again. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:59, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:That's what I'll do, but I'd like to see how this turns out first before I go thinking about applying again. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 12:59, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
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#:::I'll be looking forward to it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:15, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:::I'll be looking forward to it. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:15, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:I feel like whenever someone says "Do more" or "Contribute more", it always seems like one of these three: redundanf, inconsistent, and/or vague. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: black;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: orange;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 16:16, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:I feel like whenever someone says "Do more" or "Contribute more", it always seems like one of these three: redundanf, inconsistent, and/or vague. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: black;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color: orange;">'''The Evil Clone'''</span>]] 16:16, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#<s>'''Neutral, leaning towards support'''</s> I think you'd be a better admin than Aidan (no offense Aidan), and I believe that we need another admin, I just don't feel like I know you well enough to truthfully say either way, y'know? <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  19:35, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#'''Neutral, leaning towards support''' I think you'd be a better admin than Aidan (no offense Aidan), and I believe that we need another admin, I just don't feel like I know you well enough to truthfully say either way, y'know? <small><font color="black">---</font><font color="orange">Preceding unsigned comment added by</font> [[Special:MyPage|<font color="black">BOO</font>]]! <font color="orange">Or maybe</font> [[User:Nutta Butta|<font color="orange">Nutta.</font>]] </small>  19:35, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Understandable, I was the same way about your admin attempt, no offense. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:42, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:Understandable, I was the same way about your admin attempt, no offense. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:42, 26 October 2015 (EDT)
#:<s>Changing my vote to '''neutral, leaning very slightly towards oppose'''. While, yes, you have been improving a lot since you applied, it all seems to be based around impressing us rather than actually being useful, which, while it is not inherently a bad thing, is a good implication that your improvements may halt once you become admin and no longer need to impress us. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small>  17:03, 10 November 2015 (EST)</s>
#'''Neutral, slightly towards support''' Not sure if you deserved to pass and become an admin in my eyes. But recently, I see you working hard diligently. You went from being questionable candidate to more of the better admin candidates I seen before. Should you keep it up and show more of what you are capable of? I will change my opinion. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 00:54, 31 October 2015 (EDT)
#::Yes, I will admit that I've been trying to impress people, but if I somehow implicated that was my only goal, I sincerely apologize, as that was not my intention. It's quite the opposite actually, while yes, I do want to impress people, I also want to improve for me as well, as I kick myself for not trying hard enough on Bulbapedia, and not trying hard enough on here when I first join. Whether this succeeds or fails, I plan on continuing improving, I plan on finding new ways to help around the wiki, and with Serpent recently starting to teach me more advanced coding for making templates, etc., I feel like I can contribute even more to the wiki than I ever could before, and that's what I will do, no matter the outcome. I appreciate your concerns, and I once again apologize if my actions have seemed in any way malicious or misguided. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 17:38, 10 November 2015 (EST)
#'<s>''Neutral, slightly towards support''' Not sure if you deserved to pass and become an admin in my eyes. But recently, I see you working hard diligently. You went from being questionable candidate to more of the better admin candidates I seen before. Should you keep it up and show more of what you are capable of? I will change my opinion. [[User:Luigi540|Luigi540]] ([[User talk:Luigi540|talk]]) 00:54, 31 October 2015 (EDT)</s>
#:I will try my very best (I'll try not to overwork myself though, that wouldn't be good). :D [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:57, 31 October 2015 (EDT)
#:I will try my very best (I'll try not to overwork myself though, that wouldn't be good). :D [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Purple; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px purple">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Black;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px black">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:57, 31 October 2015 (EDT)
#'''Very neutral''' I'd love to say "go on then, let's have another admin, waheyyy", but I just don't have a good reason to do so. For the first time in years, SmashWiki is finally going to have a reasonable number of active administrators, and you sadly missed the bandwagon to jump into that number. You've proven a proficient user thus far, but not in a way that proves you more proficient than, or just particularly ''different'' to our other candidates. I'd be very pleased on a personal level to see you promoted, but I don't have a good reason to vote that way. [[User:ToastUltimatum|<font color="ff8c00">'''Toast'''</font>]] [[File:Wii U Logo Transparent.png|17px]][[User talk:ToastUltimatum|<font color="01a3c4">'''ltimatum'''</font>]] 09:57, 18 November 2015 (EST)


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<small>(reset indent)</small> Eh I doubt that'll happen anyway. I have no quarrel with anyone on the site and as far as I know, nobody has anything bad against me, though it sucks that not a lot of people are voting, I could really use some advice if I'm doing something wrong, y'know? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px hotpink">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:34, 3 November 2015 (EST)
<small>(reset indent)</small> Eh I doubt that'll happen anyway. I have no quarrel with anyone on the site and as far as I know, nobody has anything bad against me, though it sucks that not a lot of people are voting, I could really use some advice if I'm doing something wrong, y'know? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px hotpink">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:34, 3 November 2015 (EST)


I'm not sure what to do with this at the moment, and am mostly commenting as an indicator that I'm not ignoring it. The main roadblock currently is that I honestly don't know who you are. Despite seeing you make a bunch of edits recently, I don't recognize your username at all, and it's spooking me out. I'm going to have to research your edit history or something. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[File:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Orchestral 11:35, 1 November 2015 (EST)
I'm not sure what to do with this at the moment, and am mostly commenting as an indicator that I'm not ignoring it. The main roadblock currently is that I honestly don't know who you are. Despite seeing you make a bunch of edits recently, I don't recognize your username at all, and it's spooking me out. I'm going to have to research your edit history or something. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Orchestral 11:35, 1 November 2015 (EST)
:[[User talk:Toomai#I would like your help please|ahem]]. Also the fact that an unfamiliar usename spooks you out made my day. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 11:39, 1 November 2015 (EST)
:[[User talk:Toomai#I would like your help please|ahem]]. Also the fact that an unfamiliar usename spooks you out made my day. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 11:39, 1 November 2015 (EST)
:Probably because he doesn't know Flare from Bublbaboy. But then again, nobody knows anybody old who changed their username. [[File:PikachuMS.png]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 11:09, 4 November 2015 (EST)
:Probably because he doesn't know Flare from Bublbaboy. But then again, nobody knows anybody old who changed their username. [[File:PikachuMS.png]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 11:09, 4 November 2015 (EST)
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I am going to give you a chance to get me in support:
I am going to give you a chance to get me in support:


Say there is a newer user who is not quite familiar with our policies yet. Now say someone corrects their edits and leaves messages on their talk page, but they are a bit...overboard ("OMG will you ''PLEASE'' sign your comments? You're so annoying..." etc). The new user continues to violate the policy. How do you resolve the situation? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 01:30, 9 November 2015 (EST)
Say there is a newer user who is not quite familiar with our policies yet. Now say someone corrects their edits and leaves messages on their talk page, but they are a bit...overboard ("OMG will you ''PLEASE'' use the preview button? You're so annoying..." etc). The new user continues to violate the policy. How do you resolve the situation? <span style="font-family:Monotype Corsiva; font-size:12pt">[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#008833; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #00bb77;">'''Serpent'''</span>]] [[File:SKSig.png|16px|link=]] [[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#eed000; text-shadow:0px 0px 3px #ffd000;">'''King'''</span></span>]] 01:30, 9 November 2015 (EST)
:As per your previous question, it depends. For one thing, if the user who's trying to correct them is saying being rude like that, I'm going to scold them no matter what, because there's no need to be rude to anyone, no matter what wrongdoing they've committed. When it comes to the user, that's difficult to determine. It'd have to depend on how exactly they're violating policies and what policies they're violating, for instance, a signed comment issue, I'm going to be a bit easygoing on, as it's not a terrible issue, just a minor issue that can be fixed rather quickly. Most likely the reason they'd ignore it is maybe because the user's being rude to them. I know I wouldn't wanna listen to someone who's being rude to me, so I'd talk to them myself, explain why exactly they're being called out, apologize for said user's misbehavior, and link them to the policies and hope they'll listen then. If not, then I'll remind them a couple more times, give them a few more chances, you know. If they continue to break the policies, then at that point I know I have no choice but to issue a penalty. The penalty would depend on the severity of the policy violation, but since they'd most likely be good faith, then it wouldn't be TOO severe, just enough to get their attention. At that point I'd put one more message on their talk page explaining why they faced a penalty and ask kindly to refrain from doing it again and to look at the policies they've been violating. Hopefully this helps, and if you need further information, don't hesitate to ask. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 01:44, 9 November 2015 (EST)  


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