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{{Rfa close|failed|It's close, but ultimately I have to say "not yet" to this proposal. Candidate is certainly on the right track in pretty much all ways, but based on the response from the userbase, is just not there yet. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[ | {{Rfa close|failed|It's close, but ultimately I have to say "not yet" to this proposal. Candidate is certainly on the right track in pretty much all ways, but based on the response from the userbase, is just not there yet. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Golden 09:59, 21 November 2015 (EST)}} | ||
=== [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Disaster Flare|RFA page]]) === | === [[User:Disaster Flare|Disaster Flare]] ([[User talk:Disaster Flare|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Disaster Flare|contribs]] • [[Special:Editcount/Disaster Flare|edit count]] • [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Disaster Flare|RFA page]]) === | ||
''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br> | ''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br> | ||
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#:::::And that's the kind of progress I hope you continue to make, and which may make you a good candidate for a future RfA. However, I think this one is a bit too soon for me to feel comfortable supporting you. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:54, 9 November 2015 (EST) | #:::::And that's the kind of progress I hope you continue to make, and which may make you a good candidate for a future RfA. However, I think this one is a bit too soon for me to feel comfortable supporting you. [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="dodgerblue"><span style="font-family:Comic Sans MS;">'''Miles''']] <font color="silver">([[User talk:Miles of SmashWiki|<font color="silver">talk]])</font></font></span></font> 23:54, 9 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#::::::I fully understand and I respect your opinion. I will do my best to get better. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:55, 9 November 2015 (EST) | #::::::I fully understand and I respect your opinion. I will do my best to get better. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 23:55, 9 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#'''Oppose''': I took a look through your history, and you don't seem to have any blemishes on your record. However, I'm not particularly impressed either; I only managed to find a few instances of you getting involved in a conflict or talking about a proposal, and I didn't see you add anything really substantial nor anything that really demonstrates the strength of your judgement. You don't appear to be a bad candidate, you may even be one of the better candidates at the moment, but a wiki shouldn't ever promote on a "why not?" basis, and I need to be convinced you gaining adminship would benefit the wiki beyond just giving it another person to ban vandals and take out the trash. I'm open to being convinced differently if you want to try. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/User_talk:Disaster_Flare/Archive_2#So_I_noticed_the_bit_on_your_userpage_about_being_stressed_out_over_your_RfA However], I suggest you not stressing yourself out so hard to "prove yourself", do not let the wiki consume you and do not put it at such a high priority for yourself, if you're capable of being admin it will show soon enough. One more thing for everyone else, edit count means absolutely nothing for one admin's capabilities, it should never be an argument for nor against someone. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[ | #'''Oppose''': I took a look through your history, and you don't seem to have any blemishes on your record. However, I'm not particularly impressed either; I only managed to find a few instances of you getting involved in a conflict or talking about a proposal, and I didn't see you add anything really substantial nor anything that really demonstrates the strength of your judgement. You don't appear to be a bad candidate, you may even be one of the better candidates at the moment, but a wiki shouldn't ever promote on a "why not?" basis, and I need to be convinced you gaining adminship would benefit the wiki beyond just giving it another person to ban vandals and take out the trash. I'm open to being convinced differently if you want to try. [http://www.ssbwiki.com/User_talk:Disaster_Flare/Archive_2#So_I_noticed_the_bit_on_your_userpage_about_being_stressed_out_over_your_RfA However], I suggest you not stressing yourself out so hard to "prove yourself", do not let the wiki consume you and do not put it at such a high priority for yourself, if you're capable of being admin it will show soon enough. One more thing for everyone else, edit count means absolutely nothing for one admin's capabilities, it should never be an argument for nor against someone. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 08:49, 14 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#:I first want to apologize for not getting to this sooner, I meant to but things came up. Anyway, I want to start by agreeing with most of the things you've said, yes I don't make a point to be more part in conflict resolution or proposals. I would give you my word saying I would become a bigger part, but I know my word just won't cut it, and you need visual evidence before you can trust what I say. I will say however that I definitely want to be more part of things like that, there's just the matter of being at the right place at the right time, but I always try to scout the RC for anything I can help out with, whether it be vandals, expanding upon articles, uploading images, etc. Even when I'm not logged in, I still have a tendency to scout the RC just in case, that way I can quickly log in if something's wrong. I will also say that yes, while I was stressed about my RfA and about proving myself at first, in the process I have learned when I need to back off from the wiki, and I try to not let it take over my life. Now, probably the question you're wondering most: "Why do you think you would make a worthy admin?" | #:I first want to apologize for not getting to this sooner, I meant to but things came up. Anyway, I want to start by agreeing with most of the things you've said, yes I don't make a point to be more part in conflict resolution or proposals. I would give you my word saying I would become a bigger part, but I know my word just won't cut it, and you need visual evidence before you can trust what I say. I will say however that I definitely want to be more part of things like that, there's just the matter of being at the right place at the right time, but I always try to scout the RC for anything I can help out with, whether it be vandals, expanding upon articles, uploading images, etc. Even when I'm not logged in, I still have a tendency to scout the RC just in case, that way I can quickly log in if something's wrong. I will also say that yes, while I was stressed about my RfA and about proving myself at first, in the process I have learned when I need to back off from the wiki, and I try to not let it take over my life. Now, probably the question you're wondering most: "Why do you think you would make a worthy admin?" | ||
#:Not that it would help sway your opinions at all, but one quality that really helps out is that I tend to be on longer during the day than the admins, even to really late at night. This is due to the fact that I'm a night owl, and I prefer to stay up at night to help me think better, which helps especially with articles. Now, this does not mean it consumes my life, as I also use any quiet time to take a break and work on my webcomic or something. I also know that I don't exactly have the experience you're looking for, but whether this RfA passes or fails, I still want to improve. Serpent King's already teaching me more advanced code so I can better help around the wiki. He's been a very valuable mentor to me and I'm happy to work with him. I know your main concern is me just being another janitor. Heck, even I don't want that, and I've been trying hard to make sure that it doesn't. Like, okay, so even when I'm offline, I'm still working in a way, not just because I'd still be patrolling the RC, but also because I tend to work on drafts for things while I'm offline, or use it to think about creating my first template and what it would be. I want to improve, not just for the wiki, but for myself as well, and even if the application does fail, I'll take what I've learned from you and everyone else and use it to figure out what I need to improve on before I should make another attempt, that way I don't accidentally make a new one too soon, only to make a complete fool of myself. But again, I know just my word alone won't cut it, which is why I'll keep doing what I normally do, but better. Another thing I'd like to point out on why I'd be a good candidate is because of my general pacifism on the wiki, mostly during conflicts and whenever users are pushing me around. I try my best to stay as calm as possible during it, while trying to solve the conflict in the process. I gained this ability from my cousin actually (Her and I have never been on good terms, so in order to prevent a fight from breaking out, I had to learn to control my irritability, and I try my very best to not let anger show on the wiki, regardless of how much something may bother me. If you have any questions or anything else that you need to help further prove that I'm a candidate, then please do not hesitate to let me know. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 04:36, 15 November 2015 (EST) | #:Not that it would help sway your opinions at all, but one quality that really helps out is that I tend to be on longer during the day than the admins, even to really late at night. This is due to the fact that I'm a night owl, and I prefer to stay up at night to help me think better, which helps especially with articles. Now, this does not mean it consumes my life, as I also use any quiet time to take a break and work on my webcomic or something. I also know that I don't exactly have the experience you're looking for, but whether this RfA passes or fails, I still want to improve. Serpent King's already teaching me more advanced code so I can better help around the wiki. He's been a very valuable mentor to me and I'm happy to work with him. I know your main concern is me just being another janitor. Heck, even I don't want that, and I've been trying hard to make sure that it doesn't. Like, okay, so even when I'm offline, I'm still working in a way, not just because I'd still be patrolling the RC, but also because I tend to work on drafts for things while I'm offline, or use it to think about creating my first template and what it would be. I want to improve, not just for the wiki, but for myself as well, and even if the application does fail, I'll take what I've learned from you and everyone else and use it to figure out what I need to improve on before I should make another attempt, that way I don't accidentally make a new one too soon, only to make a complete fool of myself. But again, I know just my word alone won't cut it, which is why I'll keep doing what I normally do, but better. Another thing I'd like to point out on why I'd be a good candidate is because of my general pacifism on the wiki, mostly during conflicts and whenever users are pushing me around. I try my best to stay as calm as possible during it, while trying to solve the conflict in the process. I gained this ability from my cousin actually (Her and I have never been on good terms, so in order to prevent a fight from breaking out, I had to learn to control my irritability, and I try my very best to not let anger show on the wiki, regardless of how much something may bother me. If you have any questions or anything else that you need to help further prove that I'm a candidate, then please do not hesitate to let me know. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 04:36, 15 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#:[[User:Disaster Flare/Qualifications|For you and anyone else who's having second thoughts or having trouble deciding]]. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:57, 16 November 2015 (EST) | #:[[User:Disaster Flare/Qualifications|For you and anyone else who's having second thoughts or having trouble deciding]]. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 15:57, 16 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#::I read through your response, and the qualification page you filled out. However, I remain unconvinced you would be a fully competent admin that wouldn't just be a handy janitor. Your linked examples of dispute resolution skills really didn't do anything to change my prior judgment. And I don't think pacifism is a beneficial trait for an admin; an admin needs to be fully willing to get involved in conflicts, confront users, and be willing to be strict when problems arise. However, I do think you have potential, and will be observing you for the coming months, to better gauge your admin capabilities for when you make another RfA down the line. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[ | #::I read through your response, and the qualification page you filled out. However, I remain unconvinced you would be a fully competent admin that wouldn't just be a handy janitor. Your linked examples of dispute resolution skills really didn't do anything to change my prior judgment. And I don't think pacifism is a beneficial trait for an admin; an admin needs to be fully willing to get involved in conflicts, confront users, and be willing to be strict when problems arise. However, I do think you have potential, and will be observing you for the coming months, to better gauge your admin capabilities for when you make another RfA down the line. <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png ]] 18:13, 16 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#:::In hindsight, pacifism was a poor choice for a word, as I have confronted in the past, but nonetheless, I thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you again in the coming months. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:27, 16 November 2015 (EST) | #:::In hindsight, pacifism was a poor choice for a word, as I have confronted in the past, but nonetheless, I thank you for your time, and I look forward to hearing from you again in the coming months. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 21:27, 16 November 2015 (EST) | ||
#Changing my vote again to '''oppose'''. Simply put, your comment that you have been trying to impress people just goes to further my point. But whether or not you do stop it if you're promoted, it means you weren't, and as far as I can tell still aren't, ready for admin powers. You shouldn't have to ''try''; if you were ready to handle a position of power like this, it would come more naturally. And as much as I hate receiving this type of answer, I'm forced to give it: wait. Stick around. Stop trying so hard, and just be a part of the community. Until it's clear that you're ready and not just because you've been striving to be perfect, I can't support this. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 22:10, 18 November 2015 (EST) | #Changing my vote again to '''oppose'''. Simply put, your comment that you have been trying to impress people just goes to further my point. But whether or not you do stop it if you're promoted, it means you weren't, and as far as I can tell still aren't, ready for admin powers. You shouldn't have to ''try''; if you were ready to handle a position of power like this, it would come more naturally. And as much as I hate receiving this type of answer, I'm forced to give it: wait. Stick around. Stop trying so hard, and just be a part of the community. Until it's clear that you're ready and not just because you've been striving to be perfect, I can't support this. <small>---Preceding unsigned comment added by [[Special:MyPage|<font color="brown">a turkey</font>]]! Or maybe [[User:DatNuttyKid|DatNuttyKid]].</small> 22:10, 18 November 2015 (EST) | ||
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<small>(reset indent)</small> Eh I doubt that'll happen anyway. I have no quarrel with anyone on the site and as far as I know, nobody has anything bad against me, though it sucks that not a lot of people are voting, I could really use some advice if I'm doing something wrong, y'know? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px hotpink">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:34, 3 November 2015 (EST) | <small>(reset indent)</small> Eh I doubt that'll happen anyway. I have no quarrel with anyone on the site and as far as I know, nobody has anything bad against me, though it sucks that not a lot of people are voting, I could really use some advice if I'm doing something wrong, y'know? [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Red; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px red">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:HotPink;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px hotpink">'''Flare'''</span>]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Orange;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px orange">(talk)</span>]]'' 19:34, 3 November 2015 (EST) | ||
I'm not sure what to do with this at the moment, and am mostly commenting as an indicator that I'm not ignoring it. The main roadblock currently is that I honestly don't know who you are. Despite seeing you make a bunch of edits recently, I don't recognize your username at all, and it's spooking me out. I'm going to have to research your edit history or something. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[ | I'm not sure what to do with this at the moment, and am mostly commenting as an indicator that I'm not ignoring it. The main roadblock currently is that I honestly don't know who you are. Despite seeing you make a bunch of edits recently, I don't recognize your username at all, and it's spooking me out. I'm going to have to research your edit history or something. [[User:Toomai|Toomai]] [[User talk:Toomai|Glittershine]] [[Image:Toomai.png|20px|link=User:Toomai/Bin|???]] The Orchestral 11:35, 1 November 2015 (EST) | ||
:[[User talk:Toomai#I would like your help please|ahem]]. Also the fact that an unfamiliar usename spooks you out made my day. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 11:39, 1 November 2015 (EST) | :[[User talk:Toomai#I would like your help please|ahem]]. Also the fact that an unfamiliar usename spooks you out made my day. [[User:Ganonmew|<span style="color: brown;">'''Ganonmew'''</span>]], [[User talk:Ganonmew|<span style="color:brown;">'''The Thankful Evil Clone'''</span>]] 11:39, 1 November 2015 (EST) | ||
:Probably because he doesn't know Flare from Bublbaboy. But then again, nobody knows anybody old who changed their username. [[File:PikachuMS.png]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 11:09, 4 November 2015 (EST) | :Probably because he doesn't know Flare from Bublbaboy. But then again, nobody knows anybody old who changed their username. [[File:PikachuMS.png]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: yellow;">'''Pika,'''</span>]] [[User:ThePikaPlayer|<span style="color: brown;">'''Wild Turkey appeared!'''</span>]] [[User talk:ThePikaPlayer|''<span style="color: cyan;">Talkz</span>'']] 11:09, 4 November 2015 (EST) |