Editing SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk (2)

=== [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidanzapunk]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Aidanzapunk|contribs]] &bull; [[Special:Editcount/Aidanzapunk|edit count]] &bull; [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk (2)|RFA page]]) ===

''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
Alright, here goes nothing. This is something I have been tossing around in my head for a while, but I think that it's high time that I go through with it.

For those of you who do not know me, my name is Aidan, and I work under the username Aidanzapunk here on the SmashWiki. I've been an on and off user since mid-2013, and have seen this wiki grow during that time. I previously sent out a request for adminship [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk|almost three years ago]], to no avail. In a bit of fairness and hindsight, it was admittedly rushed, and mostly put out due to a rise in vandals. It failed due to what I believe to be a lack of experience, as well as no need for another admin. This time is different: while, yes, vandals have been and will continue to be present, the issue raised this time around comes from the admins themselves, who have lamented on quite a few occasions about the lack of active admins. Three years may seem like a short time to some, but a lot can change during that period of time.

One of the bigger changes to emerge on the wiki during this three-year timespan was our jump from the IRC to Discord. It was quickly realized that there would need to be more than admins keeping everything in check, so the role of "Chat Operator" was created. Not only did my application [https://pastebin.com/5ThRQf97 successfully go through], but it was the first to do so; as such, I have been a successful moderator (so to speak) of the SmashWiki's Discord server for over a year now. Speaking from a personal viewpoint, I also feel as though I have changed as an editor and a community member over the past three years as well, as I have moderated (and even sometimes run) more personal wikis on my own spare time, and I believe that this time around, I am more suited for the administrator position.

In terms of dispute handling, this is a bit of an odd case, I will admit: in a situation where something is brought up, I will [[Talk:Giga Mac|tend to act calmly]] and [[Talk:Super Smash Bros. Ultimate/Archive 1#Fucks Sake It Is A New Instalment And Link Is In His Breath Of The Wild Design|try to follow protocol with how certain things are handled]]. In a typical debate between two users, however, I will admit that I tend to [[Talk:List of Director's Room Miiverse posts#Move proposal|stay ''out'' of things for the most part]], but still make sure that things don't go out of hand on the sidelines. This, however, can be chalked up to me being on the autism spectrum, which {{rollover|''really''|sarcasm|y}} helps in social situations like this. While I am prone to [[Talk:Helpless#Snake helpless trivia|making myself clear in an argument I myself am in]], that does not mean that I myself will go over the line, nor does it mean that I don't try to moderate the discussion itself to make sure it doesn't go out of hand. The opposite [[Talk:Super Mario Maker#Announced 3 Days After SMM's release|has held true in the past]], but it was [[User talk:Smashedpotatoes/Archive 1#Now, let me explain myself...|usually meant with no malicious intent]], and I believe it has been remedied as time has gone on.

As stated previously, I (and plenty of others) have heard firsthand the complaints from the other admins about the lack of active staff, as there are currently [[User:Serpent King|only]] [[User:Toomai|two]] active admins, and [[User:Miles of SmashWiki|f]][[User:Disaster Flare|o]][[User:Nyargleblargle|u]][[User:Omega Tyrant|r]] semi-active admins who do not frequent the wiki as often. If this request were to go through, there would be another active admin to handle problems or other requests on the wiki, and arguably quicker than the others; I <s>don't have a life</s> <s>am stuck in my room 24/7</s> am on the wiki more often than the other admins, and, at the present point in my life, have much less going on.

The only plausible drawback that I can see being an issue with my position as an administrator is me starting my freshman year of college in about a month (at the time of this writing). This would hinder my presence on the wiki as both a moderator and an editor, but I've found ways to work in free time and still complete studying in the past.

Thank you. [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 16:49, 15 July 2018 (EDT)

==== Support ====
#'''Support''' I've gone through all of your talk page posts of 2018 and took a quick glance at your edit summaries in the other namespaces, and for the most part, what I found isn't all too concerning to me. I did catch the Bayonetta thing that Alex mentioned below before I saw his vote, and I do have to admit that it does bother me a bit. I agree that it was an all too quick jump to anger over a misunderstanding. I understand the frustration of dealing with someone who seemingly has no intention of listening to you but the thing is that being an admin is a frustrating job. ''You have to be able to deal with it professionally.'' Now as this is the only thing I found that seems amiss, I think the thing that is bothering me most is how recent it was...but it is something that I am willing to give you a second chance on.<br><br>Overall, I think you are probably among the few editors here who would be qualified for the admin position. You've done exceptional work in keeping the discord server in line in times of need (and believe me I know what a headache that can be), and that alone proves to me that you have the ability to deal with the stress. You've been editing SmashWiki for longer than I have so there is really no question of experience, except maybe in templating/coding, but these are skills that you can learn as you go along: there's no immediate demand for them.<br><br>So with all of that said, have a support from me, and I wish you good luck! <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 18:18, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
#'''Support''' You have great mainspace edits. Aside from the user and user talk, I would say that you are helping the wiki to be up to date. [[File:George Jones.jpg|25px]] [[User:George Jones|George Jones]] [[File:Walls Can Fall.jpg|25px]] 19:01, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
#'''Support''' That Bayonetta hiccup does indeed concern me too, but it could happen to anyone, really. I still think you are ready. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 19:10, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
#'''Support''' You're well known on this wiki and I believe you'd do good as admin. [[User:Awesomelink234|<span style="font-size:10pt;background:#00FF20;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px;color:#050DF7">Awesomelink234, the Super Cool Sonic Fan</span>]] [[User talk:Awesomelink234|Leave a message if needed]] 22:02, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
#'''Support''' Not much else to say that hasn't already. '''[[User:Voqéo|<span style="background:#000; color:white; padding:2px 6px;font-size:12px;">Voqéo</span>]][[User talk:Voqéo|<span style="background:#e70012; color:white; padding:2px 4px;font-size:12px;">T</span>]]''' 01:53, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
#'''Support''' I haven't been here long, and we disagree on some minor stuff, but from what I've seen I think you deserve the role. Good luck bro! [[User:Dakota.952|Dakota.952]] 04:08, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
#'''Support''' In the same boat as Voqéo. You're honestly a great CO, and you'd make an even better admin. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pokebub|contribs]]) 04:48, July 16, 2018</small>

==== Oppose ====
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==== Neutral ====
#:'''Neutral'''. I can see an argument both for and against you being an admin. On the plus side, you have been a chat op on the discord server for a long time, and (in my opinion) you are one of the most responsible and level-headed chat ops on the server. In addition, you have been a long time valuable contributor to the wiki, and could very well go on to serve the wiki even better as an admin. However, I haven't really seen any particularly compelling evidence on the wiki itself of your capability of fully handling the roles of an admin, nor have I really seen any enthusiasm or eagerness from you to do so. In addition, [[Talk:Bayonetta (SSBU)|there exist some troubling and aggressive responses from you on talk pages]], and an aggressive personality is something which could be very problematic for a prospective admin (which incidentally is a major reason why I opposed Vulpine's RfA, although I will say you are noticeably better than him in that regard).
#:Overall, I could see both this request and your potential adminship going either way, hence why I am currently neutral on the matter. ''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:03, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
#::With the Bayonetta talk page thing, the only aggression that showed was due to what I perceived as a complete ignoring to what I was saying in the discussion, and instead focusing on another point altogether that was only vaguely similar to the point I was making. To be clear, I am not sure whether a resolution came about because of a misunderstanding between either party (as I admitted to not fully realizing something), or because one side wasn't clear to the other with what they were saying (as I will admit right now that both me not being clear and me not interpreting things correctly are a possibility, knowing myself as a person). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:20, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
#:::Well, from looking at the discussion and the page edit history I think you were a little to quick to jump to anger and cursing, and it later turned out that you yourself had also made a misunderstanding. I only think this is a problem because admins essentially represent the site, and if it appears as though some admins are potentially irritable, then at best it could reflect badly on the wiki and at worst it could lead to potentially poor or rash decisions being made by said admins. As I stated though, this is not as bad as the case with Vulpine, and so I do not see it as grounds to outright oppose your proposal.''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:25, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
#'''Neutral, leaning ''very slightly'' towards oppose'''. Alex summarized my thoughts pretty well (except for the chat thing, I haven't been on there so I wouldn't know). My first thought was a full oppose; but, seeing as how every single one of our regular admins is currently "semi-active", it probably would be nice to have a fully active one so that the 'crats don't have to handle everything. And of the most active and reliable editors currently on the wiki who I could see applying for adminship, you're probably the only one I would be most okay with. That said, I am still a bit concerned about your attitude, although it's based mainly on past experience and not recent experience as I haven't been paying as much attention to the minute interactions between users. I'll try to focus a bit more on that over the next couple of days and might change my vote based on that. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 18:52, 15 July 2018 (EDT)

==== Comments ====
Iron Warrior sends you his regards and wishes you the best of luck. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 03:53, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
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-{{Rfa close|successful|2=Almost unanimous support and I feel that there is little doubt that Aidan would be able to effectively handle the admin position. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 14:26, 29 July 2018 (EDT)}}
 === [[User:Aidanzapunk|Aidanzapunk]] ([[User talk:Aidanzapunk|talk]] &bull; [[Special:Contributions/Aidanzapunk|contribs]] &bull; [[Special:Editcount/Aidanzapunk|edit count]] &bull; [[SmashWiki:Requests for adminship/Aidanzapunk (2)|RFA page]]) ===
 ''Candidate, please summarize why you are running for adminship below.''<br>
 Alright, here goes nothing. This is something I have been tossing around in my head for a while, but I think that it's high time that I go through with it.
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 #'''Support''' I haven't been here long, and we disagree on some minor stuff, but from what I've seen I think you deserve the role. Good luck bro! [[User:Dakota.952|Dakota.952]] 04:08, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
 #'''Support''' In the same boat as Voqéo. You're honestly a great CO, and you'd make an even better admin. <small>—Preceding unsigned comment added by [[User:Pokebub|Pokebub]] ([[User talk:Pokebub|talk]] • [[Special:Contributions/Pokebub|contribs]]) 04:48, July 16, 2018</small>
-#'''Support''' Can't say I'm very active on the wiki itself anymore (where it seems you've kept up with your productive editing, save for the occasional aforementioned hiccup), but you've definitely been a good chat op on Discord for this past year-and-a-half or so, which shows me that you would be fairly capable in this position as well. That, and it can't hurt to have an extra helping hand around during this current shortage of administrators we seem to be having at present. [[User:BaconMastre|Bacon]][[User talk:BaconMastre|Mastre]] 14:38, 17 July 2018 (EDT)
-#Before I begin, let me just say, yes, I’m still alive. I immensely regret my inactivity and I’m trying my hardest to return. Anyway, so Aidan. I’ll try my best to keep this from sounding biased, but Aidan was one of the first people on this site I considered a friend. I supported his first RfA (although now with a more mature and educated mindset, I honestly should’ve opposed it), but I’ll go ahead and say this one is a huge improvement to the original, and you yourself have also improved. As a partner for some of the personal wikis you’ve done, I can immediately jump in and say you handled them well (even if one of those wikis were admittedly a steaming pile of garbage that tore apart more friendships than Mario Party). Additionally, you’ve done well in helping manage not only SmashWiki’s Discord, but also a couple of my personal Discord servers. Before I prattle on, I’ll end this by saying I '''Support''' this RfA. If anyone should be getting promoted right now, it should be you. [[User:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:Green; text-shadow: 0px 0px 3px green">'''Disaster'''</span> <span style="color:Blue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px blue">'''Flare'''</span>]] [[File:Disaster Flare signature image.png|20px]] ''[[User talk:Disaster Flare|<span style="color:SkyBlue;text-shadow:0px 0px 3px skyblue">(talk)</span>]]'' 00:30, 19 July 2018 (EDT)
-#'''Support''' everyone have brought up some good points so far, and I don't think I can add any more based on what has already been said.  [[File:Area51Guard.png|x18px|link=]] [[User:Boo Buddy|<span style="color:#994d00">A51</span>]] [[User talk:Boo Buddy|<span style="color:#663300">Trooper</span>]] 15:46, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
-#'''Support''' Per everyone else. Easy answer. [[User:MintyGuy700|MintyGuy700]] ([[User talk:MintyGuy700|talk]]) 21:38, 20 July 2018 (EDT)
-#'''Support''' since he's a good guy all around, a great contributor and very active user in the wiki, and I don't see him abusing his powers. --[[File:BeepYouSignature.png|40px]] [[User:Beep|<font color="Black">'''Beep'''</font>]] [[User talk:Beep|<font color="Black">'''(talk)'''</font>]] 19:58, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
-#'''Support''' Since the Wiki was red at the time of this RfA, I feel that we need more crowd control as in more admins. Also, I believe you're able to handle disputes. [[:User:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|ZeldaStarfoxfan2164]] ([[User talk:ZeldaStarfoxfan2164|talk]]) is made in America  22:04, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
-#'''Support'''. I haven't been around lately but can say you've been a good user. I think you have earned it. [[User:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="skyblue">MH</font>''']][[User talk:MHStarCraft|'''<font color="blue">StarCraft</font>''']] [[File:Mega Man X SNES sprite.png|19px]] 15:36, 23 July 2018 (EDT)
-#'''Support''' Based on my experience with Aidan here and in other wikis he's administrated, as well as Discord, I can safely say he would be trustworthy as an admin. He's quick to reply and solve problems (befitting of a Sonic fan lol), I have never seen any alarming cases of him abusing his power, and usually he handles his temper well, despite [[Talk:Bayonetta (SSBU)|some recent exceptions]]. He's also pretty active, which would help a lot now that the wiki is in red status and when ''Ultimate'' releases. [[File:034.png|20px]] '''<span style="font-family:Algerian">[[User:DracoRexKing|<font color="red">DracoRex,]]</font> [[User talk:DracoRexKing|<font color="olive">Creator of the Land]]</font></span>''' 14:01, 29 July 2018 (EDT)
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 #::With the Bayonetta talk page thing, the only aggression that showed was due to what I perceived as a complete ignoring to what I was saying in the discussion, and instead focusing on another point altogether that was only vaguely similar to the point I was making. To be clear, I am not sure whether a resolution came about because of a misunderstanding between either party (as I admitted to not fully realizing something), or because one side wasn't clear to the other with what they were saying (as I will admit right now that both me not being clear and me not interpreting things correctly are a possibility, knowing myself as a person). [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 17:20, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
 #:::Well, from looking at the discussion and the page edit history I think you were a little to quick to jump to anger and cursing, and it later turned out that you yourself had also made a misunderstanding. I only think this is a problem because admins essentially represent the site, and if it appears as though some admins are potentially irritable, then at best it could reflect badly on the wiki and at worst it could lead to potentially poor or rash decisions being made by said admins. As I stated though, this is not as bad as the case with Vulpine, and so I do not see it as grounds to outright oppose your proposal.''[[User:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: blue;">'''Alex'''</span>]] the [[User talk:Trainer Alex|<span style="color: red;">'''Jigglypuff trainer'''</span>]]'' 17:25, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
-#::::Being the person some of that conversation was directed to (not the original post but the edits made later on), I found the outburst to be uncalled for as well, however I will agree that other than that in the short time I've been on this wiki editing instead of lurking I see little to no other problems. Their edits are usually clean and concise and they settle most disagreements besides the Bayonetta exception well. [[User:Shimesa|Shimesa]] ([[User talk:Shimesa|talk]]) 18:05, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
 #'''Neutral, leaning ''very slightly'' towards oppose'''. Alex summarized my thoughts pretty well (except for the chat thing, I haven't been on there so I wouldn't know). My first thought was a full oppose; but, seeing as how every single one of our regular admins is currently "semi-active", it probably would be nice to have a fully active one so that the 'crats don't have to handle everything. And of the most active and reliable editors currently on the wiki who I could see applying for adminship, you're probably the only one I would be most okay with. That said, I am still a bit concerned about your attitude, although it's based mainly on past experience and not recent experience as I haven't been paying as much attention to the minute interactions between users. I'll try to focus a bit more on that over the next couple of days and might change my vote based on that. [[User:TheNuttyOne|TheNuttyOne]] 18:52, 15 July 2018 (EDT)
 ==== Comments ====
 Iron Warrior sends you his regards and wishes you the best of luck. [[User:Black Vulpine|<span style="color: black;">'''Black Vulpine'''</span>]] of the [[User talk:Black Vulpine|'''Furry Nation''']]. [[Special:Contributions/Black Vulpine|<span style="color: #CC5500">'''Furries make the internets go! :3'''</span>]] 03:53, 16 July 2018 (EDT)
-Aidan, I am going to give you a few scenarios, and I want you to tell me how you would resolve them. Keep in mind that "do nothing" is not always an incorrect answer.
-#Long time user gets in a content dispute with an IP. The IP is obviously wrong, but the user begins to needlessly berate the IP until they get frustrated too, and an edit war breaks out.
-#Flare and I have a civilized disagreement on how to display a piece of information.
-#Same as above, but I call Flare a poo poo head.
-#2 longstanding users have a personal user dispute that spirals out of control and results in personal attacks. Warnings have been issued, but the problem shows no sign of resolving.
-#User misuses rollback and ignores warnings.
-<span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:07, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
-:#Instigate a warning to the user about personal attacks and edit warring, and probably throw in some "there's no need to overreact" bits too.
-:#If it's civilized, then, knowing the two of you, I personally don't think it'd be out of place to do nothing, but I would still keep an eye on the off-chance that things do take a turn for the worst. This is specifically talking about the two of you, however; if given two other admins (or any two users, for that matter), then I would probably be a bit more active in the discussion to make sure things go smoothly.
-:#See above, but with an added "watch it" specifically being said.
-:#If there is a situation where two users have created a dispute that has gone completely off the rails, then, calmly but firmly, I would likely put banning one or both of them for disruption at stake unless they can shape up. ([[User talk:Toomai/Archive 13#Status of Omega Tyrant|Wouldn't be the first time that that would be used to handle something]].)
-:#If they're ignoring warnings, then <s>I would probably take away their rollback (that's a thing, right?), and give them another chance to reapply should they show that they're capable of handling it. If that fails, then</s> a minor ban would probably have to be done.
-:[[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:37, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
-::Only thing I am seeing wrong with this is that you as an admin cannot give or take rollback privs. That's crat only. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 20:41, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
-:::I wasn't sure of that, thanks for the clarification. Still, misuse of rollback is a valid reason for a small ban, right? [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 20:46, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
-::::Depends on the situation, but I'd most likely just take the rights. <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-size:10pt;background:#000;border:outset #083 2px;padding:1px 3px">'''[[User:Serpent King|<span style="color:#083">Serpent</span>]]&nbsp;[[File:SKSig.png|12px|link=]]&nbsp;[[User talk:Serpent King|<span style="color:#ed0">King</span>]]'''</span> 21:01, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
-:::::Well, you're a crat, so you can do that. :P [[User:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''Aidan'''</span>]], [[User talk:Aidanzapunk|<span style="color: blue;">'''the College-Bound Rurouni'''</span>]] 21:04, 22 July 2018 (EDT)
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