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[[ | [[Image:Shield.jpg|right|thumb|{{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}} currently in shieldstun from {{SSBB|Snake}}'s jab.]] | ||
'''Shieldstun''' | '''Shieldstun''' is an inactionable period that occurs when a character's [[shield]] is hit. It is comparable to [[hitstun]], in that it occurs after [[hitlag]] and only for the defending character. While the attacker still experiences the hitlag of the move, they do not undergo shieldstun, allowing them to move again before their opponent can if the ending [[lag]] of the attack is low. During the period of shieldstun, the shielding player cannot perform any of their normal [[out of shield]] options, rendering them stuck. Many multiple-hit moves that hit rapidly (such as [[Fox]]'s or [[Yoshi]]'s [[down aerial]]s) hit fast enough to keep an opponent in shieldstun for the duration of the move, as each hit lands while the opponent is still in shieldstun from the previous hit. In addition to not being able to perform out of shield options, players in shield stun cannot release the shield, adjust the tilt of their shield, [[shield drop]], or change their shield's density. Attempting to perform any of these actions while in shieldstun will have them happen the frame shieldstun ends instead. | ||
With the inability to jump, [[grab]], roll, or spot dodge out of their shield, the player in shieldstun is very susceptible to another hit or a grab. Though it is rare, this can sometimes be used to the point of breaking a player's shield, as with {{SSBM|Fox}}'s and {{SSBM|Falco}}'s [[pillaring]] [[combo]]s. A combo meant to lock an opponent in shield until their shield breaks is known as a [[shield break combo]]. However, outside of ''SSB'', these combos are not perfect, as all other combos on shield have gaps in shieldstun. Thus, the goal of shield combos in ''Melee'' is rarely to outright break shields: it is far more likely an attempt at causing a [[shield poke]], or to [[bait]] and [[punish]] a roll, grab, or | With the inability to jump, [[grab]], roll, or spot dodge out of their shield, the player in shieldstun is very susceptible to another hit or a grab. Though it is rare, this can sometimes be used to the point of breaking a player's shield, as with {{SSBM|Fox}}'s and {{SSBM|Falco}}'s [[pillaring]] [[combo]]s. A combo meant to lock an opponent in shield until their shield breaks is known as a [[shield break combo]]. However, outside of ''SSB'', these combos are not perfect, as all other combos on shield have gaps in shieldstun. Thus, the goal of shield combos in ''Melee'' is rarely to outright break shields: it is far more likely an attempt at causing a [[shield poke]], or to [[bait]] and [[punish]] a roll, grab, or spotdodge. Still, since gaps in shieldstun must exist it is necessary to mixup where and for how long these gaps fall. Doing so covers different out of shield options that the defending player might want to use. As an example, a [[double shine]] covers the grab-sized gap that is normally left after a [[waveshine]] or a jump out of [[shine]] into an [[aerial]], and grants the attacker the hit they were looking for. | ||
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]''== | ==In ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]''== | ||
In '' | In ''SSB'', shieldstun is extremely high. When hit on shield, the majority of moves (especially aerials) leave the defending player in such a long period of shieldstun, that another hit is nearly always guaranteed. This, along with the lack of [[perfect shield]]ing, makes shield break combos easier and far more frequent. Some moves, such as {{SSB|Kirby}}'s [[up tilt]], are notorious for breaking shields on their own with repeated use. The formula for frames of shieldstun in ''SSB'' is <code>d * 1.62 + 4</code> (rounded down), where '''d''' is the amount of [[damage]] the attack would deal if it was unshielded ([[shield damage]] dealt by the move is not factored into this formula). | ||
The formula for shieldstun | |||
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''== | ==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''== | ||
In ''Melee'', shieldstun duration in general was reduced | In ''Melee'', shieldstun duration in general was reduced. The formula for frames of shieldstun in ''Melee'' is <code>(d + 4.45) * 0.447</code> rounded down, where '''d''' is the amount of [[damage]] the attack would deal if it was unshielded (shield damage dealt by the move is not factored into this formula). This amount of shieldstun, while heavily reduced, is still sufficient to leave smart and quick attackers at an advantage. Many moves are unsafe on shield, and it is possible for defending players to capitalize on such hits. But many moves, especially certain aerials, are still safe. Pressuring an opponent's shield is challenging and risky, but highly rewarding. Often, despite a move merely breaking even on shield, or even being a few frames negative, the attacker will still have an advantage. Options out of shield, especially movement, are so limited that good spacing or quick [[dash dancing]] out of lag allow the attacker to safely pressure despite frame disadvantage. | ||
It is possible to shield buffer some evasive options out of shield in ''Melee'' by holding the C-stick while in shieldstun. The character will then jump (if held upwards), spot dodge (if held downwards) or roll (if held sideways) on the first frame after they leave shieldstun. | |||
{{SSBM|Yoshi}} is a notable exception to this rule. While he cannot jump out of shield in this iteration, he suffers no shieldstun whatsoever, which, combined with the other unique properties of his shield, give his shield game a very different dynamic to the rest of the cast. | |||
{{SSBM|Yoshi}} is a notable exception to | |||
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''== | ==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''== | ||
In ''Brawl'', | In ''Brawl'', shieldstun was further reduced. Very few (if any) attacks on shield are safe. Combined with the lowered time to drop shield (taking 7 frames instead of 15), this means that hitting shields in ''Brawl'' puts attackers in a very vulnerable position. The approximate formula for frames of shieldstun in ''Brawl'' is <code>d * 0.375</code> rounded down (shield damage dealt by the move is not factored into this formula). | ||
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''== | ==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''== | ||
In ''Smash 4'', shieldstun was originally thought to have been reduced again from ''Brawl'', but further testing showed this to be false. The formula for shieldstun | In ''Smash 4'', shieldstun was originally thought to have been reduced again from ''Brawl'', but further testing showed this to be false. The working formula for shieldstun duration in ''Smash 4'' prior to patch [[1.1.1]] was originally <code>d * 0.39</code> rounded down (bonus [[shield damage]] dealt by the move is not factored into the formula), which results in barely higher shieldstun compared to ''Brawl'' [http://smashboards.com/threads/mechanics-techniques-discussion.368206/page-40]. | ||
However, following patch [[1.1.1]], shieldstun from [[Specials: Direct|direct]] attacks was increased dramatically, to the point of being higher than in ''Melee''. The new formula is <code>d * 0.58 + 2</code> rounded down, and for [[indirect]] attacks (such as [[projectile]]s), the formula is now <code>d * 0.29 + 2</code>. [[Powershield]]ing further multiplies the amount of shieldstun by 0.66, so, for versions 1.1.1 and later, the formula is <code>d * 0.3828 + 2</code> for direct attacks and <code>d * 0.1914 + 2</code> for indirect attacks when the attack is powershielded. | |||
Version [[1.1.3]] of the game [https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/990306476219666432 added] an additional wrinkle to shieldstun: if a character is trapped in shieldstun for | Version [[1.1.3]] of the game [https://twitter.com/Ruben_dal/status/990306476219666432 added] an additional wrinkle to shieldstun: if a character is trapped in shieldstun for 10 hits, they are allowed to cancel it with a [[roll]] or [[spot dodge]], and the [[intangibility]] of either option comes out immediately on frame 1, regardless of their coded startup. Practically, there are very few moves that can hit a shield enough times for this to trigger; the looping hit of a charging [[Aura Sphere]] is the most noticeable. In the case of said move, this mechanic allows shielding characters to escape it if they are trapped by it at the ledge, where they would otherwise be forced to [[shield SDI]] or have their shield broken. | ||
==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''== | ==In ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]''== | ||
Shieldstun has been adjusted further in ''Ultimate'', with | Shieldstun has been adjusted further in ''Ultimate'', with the new formula being <code>d * 0.8 * m + 2</code>, rounded down<ref>https://twitter.com/BenArthur_7/status/1073252767496617986</ref>. '''d''' is the amount of damage the attack would deal if unshielded (without counting shield damage), while '''m''' is a multiplier that depends on the type of attack used: | ||
*[[Smash attack]]s use a multiplier of 0.725, effectively resulting in the same 0.58 multiplier from ''Smash 4''.<ref>https://twitter.com/BenArthur_7/status/1079237233192910849</ref> | |||
* | *[[Aerial attack]]s (with the exception of [[grab aerial]]s) use a multiplier of 0.33, resulting in an overall multiplier of 0.264. | ||
*[[Projectile]]s use a multiplier of 0.29, resulting in an overall multiplier of 0.232. For smash and aerial attacks that are also projectiles (such as {{SSBU|Mega Man}}'s [[forward smash]] and [[down aerial]]), only this multiplier applies. | |||
*In other cases, the multiplier is 1 by default. However, specific characters' moves that are not in the above categories can also have their own '''shieldstun multiplier'''. These are mostly employed by [[rapid jab]]s and [[dash attack]]s, which use a higher multiplier than usual to either prevent shielding opponents in range from escaping them or to decrease their [[punish]]ability (respectively), but a few other moves possess them as well, such as {{SSBU|Ridley}}'s [[Skewer]], which uses a lower multiplier than usual to prevent its sweetspot from otherwise producing ludicrously high shieldstun, as its first hit deals 40% damage. | |||
As a result, shieldstun remains unchanged for smash attacks compared to ''Smash 4'', but is increased for direct special moves and all other ground attacks; [[tilt attack]]s in particular are noticeably safer on shield. Conversely, it is decreased for aerial attacks and projectiles, most significantly the former. | As a result, shieldstun remains unchanged for smash attacks compared to ''Smash 4'', but is increased for direct special moves and all other ground attacks; [[tilt attack]]s in particular are noticeably safer on shield. Conversely, it is decreased for aerial attacks and projectiles, most significantly the former. The new 0.85× damage multiplier for aerial attacks performed in a [[short hop]] also further reduces their potential shieldstun. However, due to the universally lower [[landing lag]] in ''Ultimate'', the general safety of aerial attacks on shield remains unchanged, with some of them being slightly safer. Furthermore, shield dropping takes longer (11 frames instead of 7), while [[shield grab]]bing after shieldstun has increased startup by 4 frames, and although the new [[powershield]] mechanics allow characters to retaliate against attacks faster, it is harder to pull off, as it is now triggered by dropping the shield instead of putting it up. Overall, attacking shields in ''Ultimate'' is more favorable, with options to safely punish out of shield being riskier (albeit still highly rewarding), encouraging players to focus more on offense. | ||
The ability | The ability to cancel shieldstun with a roll or spot dodge after being locked in it for 10 hits returns from ''Smash 4'', and is now applicable to several other moves, most remarkably every [[rapid jab]], due to their increased shieldstun and much faster hit rate. This renders it vastly more useful in punishing such moves, as in the case of rapid jabs, the shielding character can usually roll behind the attacker, who will then be forced to unleash their rapid jab's finisher and thus become much more vulnerable. This mechanic's larger notoriety has led to it being referred to as '''shieldstun canceling''' by the community. | ||
===List of moves with shieldstun multipliers=== | ===List of moves with shieldstun multipliers=== | ||
{|class="wikitable" align="center" | {|class="wikitable" align="center" | ||
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!Character!!Attack!!Multiplier | !Character!!Attack!!Multiplier | ||
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|{{SSBU|Bayonetta}}||Rapid jab||15 | |{{SSBU|Bayonetta}}||Rapid jab||15 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|Down tilt (hits 1-2)||1.2 | |Down tilt (hits 1-2)||1.2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Captain Falcon}}||Rapid jab||9 | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Captain Falcon}}||Rapid jab||9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Dash attack|| | |Dash attack||1.875 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Charizard}}||Dash attack||1.5 | |{{SSBU|Charizard}}||Dash attack||1.5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Corrin}}||Rapid jab||8 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Daisy}}||Dash attack (hit 1)||2.9 | |{{SSBU|Daisy}}||Dash attack (hit 1)||2.9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
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|Dash attack||1.8 | |Dash attack||1.8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Ganondorf}}||Dash attack | |{{SSBU|Ganondorf}}||Dash attack||1.3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Greninja}}||Rapid jab||4 | |{{SSBU|Greninja}}||Rapid jab||4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Ike}}||Dash attack||1.2 | |{{SSBU|Ike}}||Dash attack||1.2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Ivysaur}}||Rapid jab||3 | |{{SSBU|Ivysaur}}||Rapid jab||3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|rowspan=6|{{SSBU|Joker}}<br>(with Arsene)||Forward tilt (hit 2)||2 | |rowspan=6|{{SSBU|Joker}}<br>(with Arsene)||Forward tilt (hit 2)||2 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|Down smash (hit 2)||1.33 | |Down smash (hit 2)||1.33 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Ken}}||Inazuma Kick||1.25 | |{{SSBU|Ken}}||Inazuma Kick||1.25 | ||
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|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Mega Man}}||Dash attack (last hit)||2.1 | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Mega Man}}||Dash attack (last hit)||2.1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Forward smash||0.32<ref>Does not work properly, as the game uses the projectile shieldstun multiplier instead</ref> | |Forward smash||0.32<ref>Does not work properly, as the game uses the projectile shieldstun multiplier instead.</ref> | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Meta Knight}}||Rapid jab||4 | |{{SSBU|Meta Knight}}||Rapid jab||4 | ||
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|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Mewtwo}}||Rapid jab||4 | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Mewtwo}}||Rapid jab||4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Dash attack||1.3 | |Dash attack||1.3<ref>1.875 prior to update {{SSBU|2.0.0}}.</ref> | ||
|- | |- | ||
|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Mii Gunner}}||Dash attack||1.5 | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Mii Gunner}}||Dash attack||1.5 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|Dash attack||1.6 | |Dash attack||1.6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}}||Rapid jab||10 | |{{SSBU|Mr. Game & Watch}}||Rapid jab||10 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Palutena}}||Rapid jab||7 | |{{SSBU|Palutena}}||Rapid jab||7 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|Dash attack||1.37 | |Dash attack||1.37 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Richter}}||Rapid jab||5 | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Richter}}||Rapid jab||5 | ||
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|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Ridley}}||Rapid jab||5 | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Ridley}}||Rapid jab||5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[Skewer]]||0.2 | |[[Skewer]]||0.2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Robin}}||Rapid jab||3 | |{{SSBU|Robin}}||Rapid jab||3 | ||
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|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Roy}}||Dash attack||1.25 | |{{SSBU|Roy}}||Dash attack||1.25 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Sheik}}||Rapid jab||9 | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Sheik}}||Rapid jab||9 | ||
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|Axe||1.1 | |Axe||1.1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Sonic}}||Dash attack|| | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Sonic}}||Dash attack (late hit)||1.57 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|[[Homing Attack]]||0.5 | |[[Homing Attack]]||0.5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Squirtle}}||Dash attack (clean)||1.45 | |{{SSBU|Squirtle}}||Dash attack (clean)||1.45 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU| | |rowspan=2|{{SSBU|Wii Fit Trainer}}||Dash attack (clean)||1.3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Dash attack (late)||1.8 | |||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBU|Young Link}}||Rapid jab||6 | |{{SSBU|Young Link}}||Rapid jab||6 | ||
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==External links== | ==External links== | ||
*[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRxZs1bGIUE Shieldstun canceling in ''Ultimate''] | *[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oRxZs1bGIUE Shieldstun canceling in ''Ultimate''.] | ||
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