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{{ | {{disambig2|Roy's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. Melee''|the character in other contexts|Roy}} | ||
{{Infobox Character | {{Infobox Character | ||
|name = Roy | |name = Roy | ||
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|availability = [[Unlockable character|Unlockable]] | |availability = [[Unlockable character|Unlockable]] | ||
|tier = | |tier = F | ||
|tierPAL = G | |tierPAL = G | ||
|ranking = | |ranking = 20 | ||
|rankingPAL = 22 | |rankingPAL = 22 | ||
}} | }} | ||
'''Roy''' ({{ja|ロイ|Roi}}, ''Roy'') is a [[unlockable character]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. He is a [[clone]] of {{SSBM|Marth}}, differentiated primarily by his [[sweetspot]]s being located near the center of his blade rather than the tip. | {{cquote|''While Roy's moves are well balanced, he's a little on the slow side, and doesn't excel at midair combat.''|cite=Description from Roy's trophy.}} | ||
'''Roy''' ({{ja|ロイ|Roi}}, ''Roy'') is a [[unlockable character]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. He is a [[clone]] of {{SSBM|Marth}}, differentiated primarily by his [[sweetspot]]s being located near the center of his blade rather than the tip. He is voiced by {{s|wikipedia|Jun Fukuyama}}. | |||
Roy currently ranks | Roy currently ranks 20th on the ''Melee'' [[tier list]], in the F tier. Roy's advantages include an above average approach due to having one of the best [[SHFFL]]s in the game, as well as a good grab game, and among the best [[reach]]es in the game thanks to his sword. However, Roy's flaws are significant, which include having poor flexibility in his combo game, attacks that are difficult to properly land, generally possessing significantly [[lag]]gy attacks, having few moves that can KO reliably and only one of which (forward smash) that is an adequate finisher, and one of the worst recoveries in the game while being a light character that is heavily susceptible to combos; as a result, Roy has significant KOing problems while being easy to KO himself. These flaws overpower Roy's strengths, leading to numerous matchups hard countering him, especially against those who are higher ranked than him on the tier list. | ||
==How to unlock== | ==How to unlock== | ||
Roy | To unlock Roy, the player must complete either Classic or Adventure Mode as Marth without using a continue, or play 900 VS. matches. | ||
Roy is fought on the [[Temple]] stage, with the track "Fire Emblem" playing. | Roy is fought on the [[Temple]] stage, with the track "Fire Emblem" playing. | ||
==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
Overall, Roy does not fall into any specific fighter archetype; while having a slew of powerful attacks, Roy himself is rather nimble, with a relatively fast dash, a good dash-dance and a very high falling speed. However, Roy has a relatively below average air speed, similarly to {{SSBM|Marth}}. A combination of a fast falling speed and a low traction gives Roy a somewhat long wavedash (sixth longest in the game). | |||
Overall, Roy does not fall into any specific fighter archetype; while having a slew of powerful attacks, Roy himself is rather nimble, | |||
Roy | Among Roy's primary strengths is the overall power in most of his ground-based attacks. Roy's forward smash is a fast attack and is his primary KO move. Additionally, Roy has a powerful but laggy down smash and an up smash with multi-hit properties, decent knockback, and, when struck at the tip, spike properties, though the lattermost property is rather situational. Roy's specials are also powerful; his Flare Blade is a deadly edgeguard tactic, almost guaranteeing a [[one-hit KO]] if fully or almost fully charged. His [[Double-Edge Dance]] naturally combos into itself and can act as a reliable finisher, and his [[Counter]] scales in power against other attacks. Against smash attacks, Roy's Counter can quickly become his most powerful move; its pseudo-semi-spike properties also makes it useful when the opponent's back is to the ledge. | ||
Roy also has a decent ground-based approach. Roy has a disjointed hitbox with his [[List of swords#Binding Blade|Binding Blade]], as well as a fast dashing speed. Additionally, a combination of low-lag, fast aerials and a very high falling speed gives Roy a useful SHFFL. Roy's SHFFL is among the best in the game due to its extreme speed, and it is faster and stronger than Marth's. Roy's down tilt also sends opponents directly upward, with decent hitstun, giving Roy a very good method to start combos. Additionally, while Roy's wavedash is not as long as Marth's, it is still one of Roy's most reliable approach options, aided by his disjointed hitbox (giving him good wavesmashing abilities) and long grab range. As a result of his approach, Roy's reach is one of the best in ''Melee'', with only Marth having a superior reach. | |||
Roy's grab game is also effective. Roy has the second highest grab range among characters who do not have disjointed grabs (such as {{SSBM|Link}}), behind only Marth in this regard. His throws can easily chain into each other, as their low knockback and Roy's high grab range allow him to decently tech-chase and chain grab. His up throw is also the second strongest in the game and can chain grab other fastfallers. Roy's grab game comprises a good deal of his edgeguard game. A common tactic is to force opponents off the stage with a down or forward throw and immediately intercept their recovery with a forward smash or Flare Blade. | |||
However, Roy's primary flaw is the [[sweetspot]] placement of his disjointed hitboxes. Unlike Marth, who can safely attack opponents from a distance, Roy must go into close proximity with the opponent to deliver strong damage and knockback, as the sweetspot on his sword is closer to the hilt than the tip. While attacks can become incredibly powerful at this close of a range, this causes Roy to become very vulnerable, especially against characters with powerful close range attacks or grabs, such as {{SSBM|Fox}}, {{SSBM|Falco}} or {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}. While [[Counter]] can potentially mitigate against physical attacks, it requires particularly good reads from the player to avoid punishment, and the attack is completely ineffective against grabs. Roy's sourspot is also weaker compared to Marth's; while Marth still has some KOing potential in his sourspotted attacks, Roy's sourspotted attacks have very poor knockback and damage in comparison. | |||
As a result of this very close sweetspot, Roy himself lacks a particularly reliable KO move. With the exception of his forward smash and potentially his down smash, Roy has few options to quickly KO, and even these two attacks need to connect in close ranges in order for them to have any reasonable KOing power. Further compounding Roy's problems with KOing are his aerials; even when sweetspotted, none of these aerials can reliably KO under 200%, they require good setups in order to properly connect, and none of them can easily inflict damage in the first place. Roy also lacks any quick KO options. While he may have two meteor smashes (the third hit of his upward Double-Edge Dance and his down air) and one spike (tippered up smash), all three are highly situational, requiring particularly lucky or skilled setups in order to properly connect. Coupled with poor offstage options as a result of high-lag aerials that are all of high risk off the edge and a poor recovery, Roy is almost completely dependent on attempting to rack up damage with brief combo strings, culminating in a reliance on wave-smashing and edgeguarding to garner KOs. | |||
Roy himself is easy to combo | Roy also has poor combo ability, in stark contrast with Marth. Roy has slightly below average air speed like Marth, but Roy's sweetspot once again hurts him. Roy cannot move fast enough in the air to hit with the hilt of his blade, causing primarily sourspotted attacks, resulting in low hitstun and hitlag attacks, impairing Roy's combo game. Roy himself, however, is easy to combo; like other fastfalling characters, his high falling speed harms him by making him extremely vulnerable to chain grabs and potentially the [[space animal slayer]] combo. Even with fast falling speed, Roy's vertical survivability from the upper blast line is average due to a combination of his lighter weight than characters such as {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} and much slower falling speed than characters like {{SSBM|Falco}}, despite him being slightly lighter than Roy. | ||
Like Marth, Roy also has a non-stellar recovery, though his faster falling speed and higher gravity only exacerbate it to make it far worse than Marth's and among the worst in the game; adding to this, his high falling speed makes him extremely vulnerable to edgeguarding, as well as being easy to [[gimp]]. While Roy's [[Blazer]] is slightly more effective than Marth's [[Dolphin Slash]], due to its greater horizontal distance, multi-hit properties that can aggravate edgeguarders, and its ability to be controlled to an extent, it still has high ending lag, leaving him open to punishes as he lands. Additionally, while Roy can still use Double-Edge Dance to recover horizontally, it is not as effective as Marth's Dancing Blade due to his higher falling speed. | |||
==Differences from Marth== | |||
==Differences from | |||
Roy is overall a considerably less effective character than Marth. All of his sweetspots are placed at the hilt or center of his blade, making it hard for him to space, and his down aerial's spike is a meteor smash hitbox that is difficult to hit with. Almost all of Roy's moves have hitboxes that come out slower, remain active for fewer frames, or stay out for the same period as Marth's, but with slower animation speed (leading to unfortunate hitbox timing on moves like his dash attack, the upper part of his neutral attack, three of his aerials and Blazer). Roy's sourspot does far less knockback and damage than Marth's, and his sweetspots do somewhere in between the knockback and damage of Marth's sour- and sweetspots, making his KO potential much worse than Marth's. Additionally, his wavedash and moonwalk are both shorter than Marth's, resulting in him being less mobile. | Roy is overall a considerably less effective character than Marth. All of his sweetspots are placed at the hilt or center of his blade, making it hard for him to space, and his down aerial's spike is a meteor smash hitbox that is difficult to hit with. Almost all of Roy's moves have hitboxes that come out slower, remain active for fewer frames, or stay out for the same period as Marth's, but with slower animation speed (leading to unfortunate hitbox timing on moves like his dash attack, the upper part of his neutral attack, three of his aerials and Blazer). Roy's sourspot does far less knockback and damage than Marth's, and his sweetspots do somewhere in between the knockback and damage of Marth's sour- and sweetspots, making his KO potential much worse than Marth's. Additionally, his wavedash and moonwalk are both shorter than Marth's, resulting in him being less mobile. | ||
However, Roy does have some advantages. As he is slightly shorter than Marth, he is slightly harder to hit (although this makes his range shorter as a result); his up smash hits multiple times and can spike, making it more reliable than Marth's, and Flare Blade is much stronger than [[Shield Breaker]], being a one-hit KO when fully charged. Additionally, unlike [[Dolphin Slash]], Blazer has multi-hit properties and can OHKO most lightweight fighters, like Mewtwo and Jigglypuff. | However, Roy does have some advantages. As he is slightly shorter than Marth, he is slightly harder to hit (although this makes his range shorter as a result); his up smash hits multiple times and can spike, making it more reliable than Marth's, and Flare Blade is much stronger than [[Shield Breaker]], being a one-hit KO when fully charged. Additionally, unlike [[Dolphin Slash]], Blazer has multi-hit properties and can OHKO most lightweight fighters, like Mewtwo and Jigglypuff. | ||
However, these advantages are not enough to alleviate his significant weaknesses, and it results in him having far less successful tournament results and a much smaller playerbase in comparison to Marth. | |||
===Aesthetics=== | ===Aesthetics=== | ||
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*{{nerf|Roy's [[wavedash]] is shorter than Marth's.}} | *{{nerf|Roy's [[wavedash]] is shorter than Marth's.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Roy [[walk]]s (1.6 → 1.2) and [[dash]]es (1.8 → 1.61) noticeably slower than Marth, and his [[dash-dance]] window is smaller as a result of his slower dash speed.}} | *{{nerf|Roy [[walk]]s (1.6 → 1.2) and [[dash]]es (1.8 → 1.61) noticeably slower than Marth, and his [[dash-dance]] window is smaller as a result of his slower dash speed.}} | ||
*{{nerf|Roy jumps lower than Marth.}} | |||
*{{change|Roy's [[falling speed]] is higher (2.2 → 2.4), causing him to have less vertical knockback than Marth, despite Marth remaining heavier than Roy, and makes his SHFFL faster than Marth's. However, his increased falling speed makes him much easier to combo, worsens his recovery, and means that he is usually unable to go off-stage for edgeguards or gimps, hindering his ability to close out stocks at low percentages.}} | *{{change|Roy's [[falling speed]] is higher (2.2 → 2.4), causing him to have less vertical knockback than Marth, despite Marth remaining heavier than Roy, and makes his SHFFL faster than Marth's. However, his increased falling speed makes him much easier to combo, worsens his recovery, and means that he is usually unable to go off-stage for edgeguards or gimps, hindering his ability to close out stocks at low percentages.}} | ||
===Ground attacks=== | ===Ground attacks=== | ||
*[[Neutral attack]]: | *[[Neutral attack]]: | ||
**{{nerf|Neutral attack only has a single hit | **{{nerf|Neutral attack only has a single hit.}} | ||
**{{ | **{{nerf|It is incapable of being [[buffer]]ed.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It deals less damage overall (4%/6% → 3%/5%/6%).}} | |||
**{{nerf|The sourspot has much less knockback (20 base/50 growth → 5/60) than the second hit of Marth's.}} | |||
**{{nerf| | **{{nerf|It has a slower animation than both hits from Marth, making it worse for edgeguarding characters with linear recoveries, such as Fox or Falco.}} | ||
*[[Forward tilt]]: | *[[Forward tilt]]: | ||
**{{buff|Forward tilt has a longer duration (4 frames → 5).}} | **{{buff|Forward tilt has a longer duration (4 frames → 5).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 7 → 9), with more ending lag.}} | **{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 7 → 9), with more ending lag.}} | ||
**{{ | **{{nerf|It deals less damage (9%/13% → 7%/10%/12%).}} | ||
*[[Up tilt]]: | *[[Up tilt]]: | ||
**{{nerf|Up tilt has more startup (frame 6 → 7) and much more ending lag (frame 32 → 40).}} | **{{nerf|Up tilt has more startup (frame 6 → 7) and much more ending lag (frame 32 → 40).}} | ||
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*[[Down tilt]]: | *[[Down tilt]]: | ||
**{{change|Instead of having horizontal knockback, Roy's down tilt has vertical knockback (30° → 80°), which allows it to leads into many combo setups, especially on fast fallers. In exchange, this makes Roy's down tilt much less useful for neutral resets and edgeguards against the rest of the cast.}} | **{{change|Instead of having horizontal knockback, Roy's down tilt has vertical knockback (30° → 80°), which allows it to leads into many combo setups, especially on fast fallers. In exchange, this makes Roy's down tilt much less useful for neutral resets and edgeguards against the rest of the cast.}} | ||
**{{buff|The | **{{buff|The sweetspots deal more damage (9%/10% → 10%/12%) and have more base knockback (50/40/25/20 → 90/70).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 7 → 8).}} | **{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 7 → 8).}} | ||
**{{ | **{{nerf|The sourspot deals less damage (8% → 6%).}} | ||
*[[Dash attack]]: | *[[Dash attack]]: | ||
**{{ | **{{nerf|The sourspot of Roy's dash attack deals less damage (9%/11% → 6%).}} | ||
**{{nerf|The move's animation is much slower, but with no change in hitbox timings, leading to an infamously terrible hitbox placement.}}[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kht7deE4Zyw] | **{{nerf|The move's animation is much slower, but with no change in hitbox timings, leading to an infamously terrible hitbox placement.}}[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kht7deE4Zyw] | ||
*[[Forward smash]]: | *[[Forward smash]]: | ||
**{{buff|Forward smash's sweetspot | **{{buff|Forward smash's sweetspot is much larger.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has more startup with a shorter duration (frame 10-13 → 12-14) and more ending lag (frame 48 → 54).}} | **{{nerf|It has more startup with a shorter duration (frame 10-13 → 12-14) and more ending lag (frame 48 → 54).}} | ||
**{{nerf|All of its hitboxes also deal less knockback, with his sourspot in particular dealing significantly less knockback (60 base/70 growth → 30/65) and his sweetspot having slightly less knockback growth (70 → 65).}} | **{{nerf|All of its hitboxes also deal less knockback, with his sourspot in particular dealing significantly less knockback (60 base/70 growth → 30/65) and his sweetspot having slightly less knockback growth (70 → 65).}} | ||
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**{{change|It deals more damage than Marth's sourspots, but less than his sweetspots (8%/15%/18% → 16.56%).}} | **{{change|It deals more damage than Marth's sourspots, but less than his sweetspots (8%/15%/18% → 16.56%).}} | ||
***{{buff|Overall, it does more damage consistently.}} | ***{{buff|Overall, it does more damage consistently.}} | ||
**{{buff|It deals more knockback without sourspots (196 set knockback/30/80 base/100/80 growth → 73 base/90 growth).}} | **{{buff|It deals more knockback without sourspots (196 set knockback/30/80 base/100/80 growth → 73 base/90 growth).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 13 → 15).}} | **{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 13 → 15).}} | ||
**{{nerf|As it is a multi-hit move, it has the possibility of being [[SDI]]ed before connecting with the final hit.}} | **{{nerf|As it is a multi-hit move, it has the possibility of being [[SDI]]ed before connecting with the final hit.}} | ||
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*{{nerf|Except for back aerial and down aerial, all aerials have more landing lag (15 frames → 20 (neutral aerial), 15 frames → 20 (forward aerial), 15 frames → 18 (up aerial)).}} | *{{nerf|Except for back aerial and down aerial, all aerials have more landing lag (15 frames → 20 (neutral aerial), 15 frames → 20 (forward aerial), 15 frames → 18 (up aerial)).}} | ||
*[[Neutral aerial]]: | *[[Neutral aerial]]: | ||
**{{nerf|It has more startup on both hits (6-7 (hit 1) 15-21 (hit 2) → 7-8 (hit 1) 17-20 (hit 2) and slightly more ending lag (frame 49 → 50).}} | **{{nerf|It has more startup on both hits (6-7 (hit 1) 15-21 (hit 2) → 7-8 (hit 1) 17-20 (hit 2) and slightly more ending lag (frame 49 → 50).}} | ||
**{{nerf|The second hit also deals less damage (10% → 8%/6%).}} | **{{nerf|The second hit also deals less damage (10% → 8%/6%).}} | ||
*[[Forward aerial]]: | *[[Forward aerial]]: | ||
**{{change|It consistently sends opponents at a [[Sakurai angle]] unlike Marth (67°/361° → 361°).}} | **{{change|It consistently sends opponents at a [[Sakurai angle]] unlike Marth (67°/361° → 361°).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has more start-up with a shorter duration (frame 4-7 → 5-7) and more ending lag (FAF 30 → 35).}} | **{{nerf|It has more start-up with a shorter duration (frame 4-7 → 5-7) and more ending lag (FAF 30 → 35).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It deals considerably less damage (13%/10%9% → 8%/5%), and has significantly less base knockback (42/30/20 → 30/10).}} | **{{nerf|It deals considerably less damage (13%/10%9% → 8%/5%), and has significantly less base knockback (42/30/20 → 30/10).}} | ||
*[[Back aerial]]: | *[[Back aerial]]: | ||
**{{nerf|It has more startup with a shorter duration (frame 7-11 → 8-10) and much more ending lag (frame 32 → 43) with no difference in animation, leading to an unfortunate hitbox placement.}} | **{{nerf|It has more startup with a shorter duration (frame 7-11 → 8-10) and much more ending lag (frame 32 → 43) with no difference in animation, leading to an unfortunate hitbox placement.}} | ||
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*[[Up aerial]]: | *[[Up aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff|It has a longer duration (frame 5-8 → 5-10).}} | **{{buff|It has a longer duration (frame 5-8 → 5-10).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It deals moderately less damage (13%/10%/9% → 9%/6%).}} | **{{nerf|It deals moderately less damage (13%/10%/9% → 9%/6%).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has much less base knockback (40/30/20/18 → 20/10).}} | **{{nerf|It has much less base knockback (40/30/20/18 → 20/10).}} | ||
*[[Down aerial]]: | *[[Down aerial]]: | ||
**{{buff|The sourspots have more base knockback (40/30 → 40).}} | **{{buff|The sourspots have more base knockback (40/30 → 40).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It is considerably more difficult to sweetspot with (the sweetspot is located around Roy's hand, rather than the tip of his sword as with Marth).}} | **{{nerf|It is considerably more difficult to sweetspot with (the sweetspot is located around Roy's hand, rather than the tip of his sword as with Marth).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has more start-up (frame 6 → 7), and much more ending lag.}} | **{{nerf|It has more start-up (frame 6 → 7), and much more ending lag.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It deals less damage (13%/10%/9% → 9%/6%), and its sweetspot is a [[meteor smash]] instead of a [[spike]] (NTSC 290° → 270°), meaning it can be meteor canceled.}} | **{{nerf|It deals less damage (13%/10%/9% → 9%/6%), and its sweetspot is a [[meteor smash]] instead of a [[spike]] (NTSC 290° → 270°), meaning it can be meteor canceled.}} | ||
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**{{change|Flare Blade has a [[flame]] effect, and near the end of charging it, Roy glows white and the screen shakes violently.}} | **{{change|Flare Blade has a [[flame]] effect, and near the end of charging it, Roy glows white and the screen shakes violently.}} | ||
**{{change|A fully charged Flare Blade has to be charged for a longer period.}} | **{{change|A fully charged Flare Blade has to be charged for a longer period.}} | ||
**{{buff|It deals considerably more knockback than Marth's [[Shield Breaker]] (30/34/40 base/100 growth → 40/110 (uncharged)/50/83 (fully charged).}} | **{{buff|It deals considerably more knockback than Marth's [[Shield Breaker]] (30/34/40 base/100 growth → 40/110 (uncharged)/50/83 (fully charged).}} | ||
**{{buff|When fully charged, Flare Blade also deals drastically more damage than Shield Breaker (28% → 50%), resulting in a [[OHKO]] on hit.}} | **{{buff|When fully charged, Flare Blade also deals drastically more damage than Shield Breaker (28% → 50%), resulting in a [[OHKO]] on hit.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Flare Blade deals 10% [[recoil damage]] to Roy when fully charged.}} | **{{nerf|Flare Blade deals 10% [[recoil damage]] to Roy when fully charged.}} | ||
**{{nerf|An uncharged Flare Blade also deals less damage than an uncharged Shield Breaker (7% → 6%).}} | **{{nerf|An uncharged Flare Blade also deals less damage than an uncharged Shield Breaker (7% → 6%).}} | ||
**{{nerf|The move deals drastically less [[shield damage]] (uncharged:30/38 → 1, fully charged: 60 → 30).}} | **{{nerf|The move deals drastically less [[shield damage]] (uncharged:30/38 → 1, fully charged: 60 → 30).}} | ||
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**{{change|It uses the flame effect.}} | **{{change|It uses the flame effect.}} | ||
**{{buff|[[Blazer]] deals slightly more damage (13%/10%/7%/6% → 13.18%).}} | **{{buff|[[Blazer]] deals slightly more damage (13%/10%/7%/6% → 13.18%).}} | ||
**{{buff|It can be angled forward for better horizontal recovery.}} | **{{buff|It can be angled forward for better horizontal recovery.}} | ||
**{{buff|It has a longer duration (6 frames → 13).}} | **{{buff|It has a longer duration (6 frames → 13).}} | ||
**{{buff|It has slightly less landing lag than [[Dolphin Slash]] (34 frames → 30).}} | **{{buff|It has slightly less landing lag than [[Dolphin Slash]] (34 frames → 30).}} | ||
**{{buff|Its first hit has very strong set knockback (200 set knockback), allowing it to KO floaty characters like {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} at 0% on certain stages.}} | **{{buff|Its first hit has very strong set knockback (200 set knockback), allowing it to KO floaty characters like {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} at 0% on certain stages.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 5 → 9).}} | **{{nerf|It has more startup (frame 5 → 9).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It deals drastically less knockback (80/60/20 base/70/90 growth → 0/10 base/100 set knockback/100 growth).}} | **{{nerf|It deals drastically less knockback (80/60/20 base/70/90 growth → 0/10 base/100 set knockback/100 growth).}} | ||
**{{nerf|It covers less vertical distance.}} | **{{nerf|It covers less vertical distance.}} | ||
**{{nerf|It can be SDIed out of due to its multihit nature.}} | **{{nerf|It can be SDIed out of due to its multihit nature.}} | ||
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|game=SSBM | |game=SSBM | ||
|neutralcount=1 | |neutralcount=1 | ||
|neutralname= | |neutralname= | ||
|neutral1dmg=5% (blade), 3% (tip), 6% (body) | |neutral1dmg=5% (blade), 3% (tip), 6% (body) | ||
|neutraldesc=Identical to Marth's; he slashes in front of himself. However, Roy only slashes once, and at a slower rate than Marth. Additionally, Roy's version is devoid of [[buffer]], meaning the player has to press the attack button one at a time instead of mashing it. | |neutraldesc=Identical to Marth's; he slashes in front of himself. However, Roy only slashes once, and at a slower rate than Marth. Additionally, Roy's version is devoid of [[buffer]], meaning the player has to press the attack button one at a time instead of mashing it. | ||
|ftiltname= | |ftiltname= | ||
|ftiltdmg=10% (blade), 7% (tip), 12% (body) | |ftiltdmg=10% (blade), 7% (tip), 12% (body) | ||
|ftiltdesc=A fast upward swipe with the Binding Blade while leaning forward. Deals more damage if the opponent is closer to Roy. Can KO at high percentages or when the [[blast line]] is close by. | |ftiltdesc=A fast upward swipe with the Binding Blade while leaning forward. Deals more damage if the opponent is closer to Roy. Can KO at high percentages or when the [[blast line]] is close by. | ||
|utiltname= | |utiltname= | ||
|utiltdmg=Clean: 8% (blade & arm), 6% (tip), 10% (body)<br/>Late: 8% (blade & arm), 6% (tip), 10% (body) | |utiltdmg=Clean: 8% (blade & arm), 6% (tip), 10% (body)<br/>Late: 8% (blade & arm), 6% (tip), 10% (body) | ||
|utiltdesc=Swings his sword in a large arc above his head. Despite generally covering Roy's hurtboxes, it is less powerful and has less combo potential than Marth's. | |utiltdesc=Swings his sword in a large arc above his head. Despite generally covering Roy's hurtboxes, it is less powerful and has less combo potential than Marth's. | ||
|dtiltname= | |dtiltname= | ||
|dtiltdmg=10% (blade), 6% (tip), 12% (body) | |dtiltdmg=10% (blade), 6% (tip), 12% (body) | ||
|dtiltdesc=A sword poke to the ground. Has longer hitstun than most of Roy's other attacks, and also sends opponents upward, making it a good combo starter overall. Its range and speed makes it a very favorable move to use in the neutral game and spacing, as well as [[edgeguarding]]. | |dtiltdesc=A sword poke to the ground. Has longer hitstun than most of Roy's other attacks, and also sends opponents upward, making it a good combo starter overall. Its range and speed makes it a very favorable move to use in the neutral game and spacing, as well as [[edgeguarding]]. | ||
|dashname= | |dashname= | ||
|dashdmg=12% (blade), 6% (tip) | |dashdmg=12% (blade), 6% (tip) | ||
|dashdesc=A quick upward sweeping diagonal slash. Like Marth's, can either send opponents in front of him, behind him, or above him. Because this move has a slower animation overall than Marth's but the hitboxes are active for the same frames, the move starts before he even swings the sword and ends before it reaches halfway through his swing in front of him. | |dashdesc=A quick upward sweeping diagonal slash. Like Marth's, can either send opponents in front of him, behind him, or above him. Because this move has a slower animation overall than Marth's but the hitboxes are active for the same frames, the move starts before he even swings the sword and ends before it reaches halfway through his swing in front of him. | ||
|fsmashname= | |fsmashname= | ||
|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|20}} (blade), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|12}} (tip) | |fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|20}} (blade), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|12}} (tip) | ||
|fsmashdesc=Rotates body counter-clockwise with a strong arc-like swing from his head to the ground, similar to the animation of his neutral special. It is rather fast, and is Roy's primary KO move. | |fsmashdesc=Rotates body counter-clockwise with a strong arc-like swing from his head to the ground, similar to the animation of his neutral special. It is rather fast, and is Roy's primary KO move. | ||
|usmashname=Flame Sword | |usmashname=Flame Sword | ||
|usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|2}} (hits 1-4), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|10}} (hit 5) | |usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|2}} (hits 1-4), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|10}} (hit 5) | ||
|usmashdesc=A relatively quick sword thrust upwards with fire effects. Can act as an unorthodox spike if the enemy is hit on the sword's tip during the start of the attack, though this is highly situational. This attack is a multi-hit attack and the last hit has decent vertical knockback, if enemy is hit at the base. All hits can approximately deal up to {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|16.56}} damage due to [[stale move negation]]. | |usmashdesc=A relatively quick sword thrust upwards with fire effects. Can act as an unorthodox spike if the enemy is hit on the sword's tip during the start of the attack, though this is highly situational. This attack is a multi-hit attack and the last hit has decent vertical knockback, if enemy is hit at the base. All hits can approximately deal up to {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|16.56}} damage due to [[stale move negation]]. | ||
|dsmashname= | |dsmashname= | ||
|dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|21}}/{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|14}} (front), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|16}}/{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|8}} (back) | |dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|21}}/{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|14}} (front), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|16}}/{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|8}} (back) | ||
|dsmashdesc=Sweeps his sword on the ground towards the front, then towards the back. A decent finisher, useful for vertical KOs, though there is rather high ending lag. Deals less damage if the opponent hits the tip of Roy's sword. | |dsmashdesc=Sweeps his sword on the ground towards the front, then towards the back. A decent finisher, useful for vertical KOs, though there is rather high ending lag. Deals less damage if the opponent hits the tip of Roy's sword. | ||
|nairname= | |nairname= | ||
|nairdmg=4% (hit 1), 8% (hit 2 base), 5% (hit 2 tip) | |nairdmg=4% (hit 1), 8% (hit 2 base), 5% (hit 2 tip) | ||
|nairdesc=Two swipes around him via an inward slash then a full outward spin, with decent knockback and damage if sweetspotted. | |nairdesc=Two swipes around him via an inward slash then a full outward spin, with decent knockback and damage if sweetspotted. | ||
|fairname= | |fairname= | ||
|fairdmg=8% (base), 5% (tip) | |fairdmg=8% (base), 5% (tip) | ||
|fairdesc=Swipes sword in front of him with surprising range and tends to be a primary combo tool due to its speed and recovery. | |fairdesc=Swipes sword in front of him with surprising range and tends to be a primary combo tool due to its speed and recovery. | ||
|bairname= | |bairname= | ||
|bairdmg=9% (base), 6% (tip) | |bairdmg=9% (base), 6% (tip) | ||
|bairdesc=Turns around and swipes inward with his sword, similar to his forward aerial in terms of usage and knockback. Like Marth's back aerial, this move turns Roy around. | |bairdesc=Turns around and swipes inward with his sword, similar to his forward aerial in terms of usage and knockback. Like Marth's back aerial, this move turns Roy around. | ||
|uairname= | |uairname= | ||
|uairdmg=9% (base), 6% (tip) | |uairdmg=9% (base), 6% (tip) | ||
|uairdesc=Swipes above outward while doing a delayed backflip. Meant to be a [[juggle]] tool, but is often subpar due to its low early knockback. | |uairdesc=Swipes above outward while doing a delayed backflip. Meant to be a [[juggle]] tool, but is often subpar due to its low early knockback. | ||
|dairname= | |dairname= | ||
|dairdmg=9% (base), 6% (tip) | |dairdmg=9% (base), 6% (tip) | ||
|dairdesc=Swipes below via an outward wide slash. [[Meteor smash]]es opponents who come in contact with Roy's body, but is rather weak and has nearly unrecoverable ending lag. The move's sweetspot is extremely tiny; which is located at Roy's right arm and left shoulder (meaning that Roy has to overlap the opponent significantly), making it more difficult to hit with than {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}'s [[Rest]]. | |dairdesc=Swipes below via an outward wide slash. [[Meteor smash]]es opponents who come in contact with Roy's body, but is rather weak and has nearly unrecoverable ending lag. The move's sweetspot is extremely tiny; which is located at Roy's right arm and left shoulder (meaning that Roy has to overlap the opponent significantly), making it more difficult to hit with than {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}'s [[Rest]]. | ||
|grabname= | |grabname= | ||
|grabdesc=Roy reaches out with his free hand. Due to Roy being shorter than Marth, his grab range is slightly shorter, making it the 5th longest grab range overall and the second longest non-tether grab. | |grabdesc=Roy reaches out with his free hand. Due to Roy being shorter than Marth, his grab range is slightly shorter, making it the 5th longest grab range overall and the second longest non-tether grab. | ||
|pummelname= | |pummelname= | ||
|pummeldmg=3% | |pummeldmg=3% | ||
|pummeldesc=Knees the opponent. | |pummeldesc=Knees the opponent. | ||
|fthrowname= | |fthrowname= | ||
|fthrowdmg=5% | |fthrowdmg=5% | ||
|fthrowdesc=Grabs and pushes forward, tripping them with his leg. | |fthrowdesc=Grabs and pushes forward, tripping them with his leg. | ||
|bthrowname= | |bthrowname= | ||
|bthrowdmg=5% | |bthrowdmg=5% | ||
|bthrowdesc=Pulls the opponent behind him and extends his leg simultaneously. | |bthrowdesc=Pulls the opponent behind him and extends his leg simultaneously. | ||
|uthrowname= | |uthrowname= | ||
|uthrowdmg=5% | |uthrowdmg=5% | ||
|uthrowdesc=Thrusts opponent upwards. Can chain grab [[fast- | |uthrowdesc=Thrusts opponent upwards. Can chain grab [[fast-fallers]] at lower percentages. It is the second strongest up throw in the game. | ||
|dthrowname= | |dthrowname= | ||
|dthrowdmg=6% | |dthrowdmg=6% | ||
|dthrowdesc=Tosses the foe to the ground. Has chain grab and frame-trap potential. | |dthrowdesc=Tosses the foe to the ground. Has chain grab and frame-trap potential. | ||
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|edgefname= | |edgefname= | ||
|edgefdmg=8% (sword), 6% (hilt) | |edgefdmg=8% (sword), 6% (hilt) | ||
|edgefdesc=Flips onto ledge with a quick downward diagonal slash downwards. Hitbox only exists on Roy's right arm and his sword, meaning that foes close to the ledge Roy is hanging on can avoid the attack. | |edgefdesc=Flips onto ledge with a quick downward diagonal slash downwards. Hitbox only exists on Roy's right arm arm and his sword, meaning that foes close to the ledge Roy is hanging on can avoid the attack. | ||
|edgesname= | |edgesname= | ||
|edgesdmg=8% (sword), 6% (hilt) | |edgesdmg=8% (sword), 6% (hilt) | ||
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| Second Hit (Neutral) || 6% (base), 4% (tip) || Does a stab, has a little more knockback then the first slash, but still not much. | | Second Hit (Neutral) || 6% (base), 4% (tip) || Does a stab, has a little more knockback then the first slash, but still not much. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Third Hit (Up) || Clean: 10% (base), 8% (tip)<br/>Late: 7% (base), 5% (tip) || Does a downwards vertical slash. Can [[meteor smash]] at the beginning of the move | | Third Hit (Up) || Clean: 10% (base), 8% (tip)<br/>Late: 7% (base), 5% (tip) || Does a downwards vertical slash. Can [[meteor smash]] at the beginning of the move. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Third Hit (Neutral) || 10% (base), 8% (tip) || Does a fairly powerful horizontal slash. | | Third Hit (Neutral) || 10% (base), 8% (tip) || Does a fairly powerful horizontal slash. | ||
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| Fourth Hit (Up) || 13% (base), 10% (tip) || Does a jumping slash. Deals [[flame]] damage. | | Fourth Hit (Up) || 13% (base), 10% (tip) || Does a jumping slash. Deals [[flame]] damage. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Fourth Hit (Neutral) || 13% (base), 10% (tip) || Does a powerful vertical slash. Deals [[flame]] damage | | Fourth Hit (Neutral) || 13% (base), 10% (tip) || Does a powerful vertical slash. Deals [[flame]] damage. | ||
|- | |- | ||
| Fourth Hit (Down) || 3% (hit 1-4), 5% (hit 5) || Does a flurry of lower stabs, each stab dealing [[flame]] damage. | | Fourth Hit (Down) || 3% (hit 1-4), 5% (hit 5) || Does a flurry of lower stabs, each stab dealing [[flame]] damage. | ||
|} | |} | ||
===[[Taunt]]=== | ===[[Taunt]]=== | ||
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==In [[competitive play]]== | ==In [[competitive play]]== | ||
=== | ===[[Character matchups (SSBM)|Matchups]]=== | ||
{{SSBMMatchupTable|Roy=yes}} | |||
:''See also: [[:Category:Roy | Roy has a very bad matchup spread. According to the matchup chart, he has the 21st weighted total (tied with Yoshi). He counters only {{SSBM|Pichu}}, soft counters two characters, and has two even matchups. On the disadvantageous side, he is soft countered by four characters (including a losing matchup to {{SSBM|Kirby}}, despite Kirby being at the very bottom), countered by twelve characters, and is hard countered by four. | ||
*{{Sm| | |||
*{{Sm|Leon|France}} - Although better known for his {{SSBB|Marth}} in ''[[Brawl]]'', he placed well in many French tournaments with Roy. | His inconsistent comboing ability, underwhelming recovery, and high vulnerability to combos have resulted in him struggling against most of the cast, with his matchups against these who can exploit the latter two problems (like {{SSBM|Sheik}} and {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}) being especially detrimental. [[Floaty]] characters such as Jigglypuff and {{SSBM|Peach}} are inarguably his worst matchups, since he has nearly no consistent punishes against them. While he can potentially [[OHKO]] Jigglypuff with a reversed [[Blazer]], he cannot combo into it and whiffing such a move will likely result in massive punishment from the opponent. Since his sourspotted moves are extremely weak and have very little combo potential (unlike {{SSBM|Marth}}'s), he needs to get up close and hit with his blade's sweetspot, which causes him to struggle against characters with more favorable hitbox placements (like Marth and {{SSBM|Falco}}). | ||
*{{Sm|NEO|USA}} - Considered to be the best Roy player of all time with many results other Roy players still have yet to match. | ====Current metagame==== | ||
*{{Sm|Sethlon|USA}} - Was considered to be the current best Roy player in the world after | Roy has had no breakthroughs in his neutral game, nor his punish game against floaty characters, which both still remain among the worst in the game. Thus, his competitive standing remains the same, even after several years of development since the matchup chart was created. Some players have shown that his punish game against fastfallers is almost as strong as Marth's, implying that Roy's matchups against characters such as {{SSBM|Fox}} or {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} are not as bad as the spread indicates. However, such punishes are very stage-dependent, as they only work consistently on wide, platform-less stretches only present within [[Final Destination]] and occasionally [[Pokémon Stadium]]. Additionally, these punishes can only come about after Roy has found an opening, something that he still cannot consistently achieve due to his inferior approaches and lack of safety in his moves. | ||
*{{Sm| | ===Notable players=== | ||
:''See also: [[:Category:Roy professionals (SSBM)]]'' | |||
====Active==== | |||
There are currently no active Roy players in high-level ''Melee''. | |||
====Inactive==== | |||
*{{Sm|Azen|USA}} | |||
*{{Sm|Leon|France}} - Although better known for his {{SSBB|Marth}} in ''[[Brawl]]'', he placed well in many French tournaments with Roy. | |||
*{{Sm|LSDX|USA}} - Placed 5th at [[Be Mine?]]. Has since been banned from tournament play following confirmed accusations of sexual misconduct. | |||
*{{Sm|Lunchables|USA}} - A solid Roy player, although more known for his Roy in ''[[Project M]]''. | |||
*{{Sm|Masashi|Japan}} - The strongest player in Japan in the early days, has a competent Roy secondary. | |||
*{{Sm|Mew2King|USA}} - Known for his strong Roy when sandbagging. | |||
*{{Sm|NEO|USA}} - Considered to be the best Roy player of all time with many results other Roy players still have yet to match. | |||
*{{Sm|NJzFinest|USA}} | |||
*{{Sm|Ripple|USA}} | |||
*{{Sm|Sethlon|USA}} - Was considered to be the current best Roy player in the world after NEO’s retirement, due to his popularity and widely acclaimed combo video ''Ashes to Ashes.'' | |||
*{{Sm|voff3|norway}} - Considered to be the best Roy in Europe, although he only uses him as a secondary. Won sets against players such as {{Sm|Calle W}}. | |||
===Tier placement and history=== | ===Tier placement and history=== | ||
On the current tier list, Roy ranks | On the current tier list, Roy ranks 20th, in the F tier. Roy has consistently ranked very low on most revisions of the [[tier list]], with his highest being only 15th on two separate occasions. His severe weaknesses, such as his poor effective threat range, fast-falling physics coupled with a very poor recovery, and nearly nonexistent combo game on floaty characters, have resulted in terrible matchups against many top- and high-tiered characters (particularly the non-fastfallers) that completely stop his mains from progressing far into tournaments. This holds him back far too much in competitive play to place consistently in high-level tournaments without the use of a secondary character. | ||
Roy's moveset also | Roy's moveset also did not boast the potential creativity of other characters, especially Marth, owing to his over-reliance on his very few good combo extenders and KO moves. This has resulted in much less nuance and optimization possible in Roy's [[metagame]], making the Roy matchup very easy to learn and catch up with. Additionally, because he is very similar to Marth, a top-tiered character that any competitive player knows how to fight against, Roy players cannot rely on matchup inexperience to win sets, unlike mains of other uncommon characters. While {{Sm|NEO}}, arguably the greatest Roy player of all time, managed to place top 8 consistently in the early ''Melee'' metagame, even he had to use Marth and Sheik secondaries to succeed at higher-stakes tournaments such as MLG. NEO, alongside many of Roy's best representatives, have either become inactive in the tournament scene or have dropped him for other characters (or other ''Smash'' games altogether), further hurting Roy's results in tournaments. | ||
Roy's only notable results in the current ''Melee'' metagame have been through Marth players, such as {{Sm|Zain}} and {{Sm|Mew2King}}, [[sandbagging]] with him in lower-stakes tournaments or matches. | Roy's only notable results in the current ''Melee'' metagame have been through Marth players, such as {{Sm|Zain}} and {{Sm|Mew2King}}, [[sandbagging]] with him in lower-stakes tournaments or matches. Even so, his results only reinforce what has been known about Roy for years already: Roy can only fight back against fastfallers at the top level. Zain’s most significant caveat saw him play in a bracket where he only had to play against Fox and Falco in the top 8 at a local tournament, and outside of one narrow win against {{Sm|2saint}}'s {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} (who defeated him 3-0 in a later encounter). As such, he has usually lost when matched up against a high-level players. Thus, Roy’s representation in modern ''Melee'' is still largely barren outside of sandbagging or online tournaments, and also further highlights his limitations rather than showing legitimate character development. His metagame remains as stagnant as it was before, with players' opinions on Roy only marginally improving. | ||
===The "Tier Wars" and comparison to Marth=== | ===The "Tier Wars" and comparison to Marth=== | ||
{{SSBM|Marth}} | {{SSBM|Marth}} and Roy's differences became the center of controversy and discussion on [[GameFAQs]]' [[tier list]] debates, specifically in 2003 and 2004, when the competitive scene was picking up. Marth players who generally supported the tier list claimed Marth had overall better attributes, in terms of speed, weight, and recovery capabilities. They also cited tournament results as proof for his superiority, with a multitude of professional Marth users such as {{Sm|Ken}} placing extremely high in major tournaments, while Roy lacked any such representation to back up the anti-tiers' arguments. Roy players who generally opposed the tier list, however, claimed that Roy's different attributes, such as his larger sweetspot in the center of his blade and general "superiority" in power, were enough to allow him to be as efficient of a character as Marth was; they also argued that professionals needed to learn how to use Roy as a different character from Marth in an attempt to disprove the tournament results. | ||
Owing to the fact that these debates took place before extensive testing of ''Melee's'' engine, the debates were plagued by numerous inaccuracies that have since been disproven with time. The point about Marth's extra weight, for instance, is now considered moot; his extra weight is decidedly negligible, and can even be interpreted as a disadvantage, considering his extra weight makes him susceptible to {{SSBM|Fox}}'s [[shine]] combos, while Roy's lighter weight makes him immune to such combos. More importantly, pro-tiers made a common assumption that Marth is faster than Roy. While Marth indeed has a faster dashing speed, this claim is questionable, considering that Roy's [[SHFFL]] is faster than Marth's due to his falling speed and lower short hop. Similarly, some points brought up about Roy's viability are also now considered inaccurate. For instance, Roy's "superiority" in power has been disproven, as many of Marth's attacks, tippered and non-tippered, deal more knockback and damage than Roy's respective centered and non-sweetspotted strikes. The sweetspot in the hilt of the blade is now considered a disadvantage and one of the main reasons for Roy's poor tier placement; while Marth can attack from afar and still deal respectable damage, Roy cannot do so, lest his attacks hit with extremely low knockback; Roy's sourspot on the entire length of the Binding Blade, besides the hilt, is also much weaker than Marth's sourspot on the hilt of the Falchion. | Owing to the fact that these debates took place before extensive testing of ''Melee's'' engine, the debates were plagued by numerous inaccuracies that have since been disproven with time. The point about Marth's extra weight, for instance, is now considered moot; his extra weight is decidedly negligible, and can even be interpreted as a disadvantage, considering his extra weight makes him susceptible to {{SSBM|Fox}}'s [[shine]] combos, while Roy's lighter weight makes him immune to such combos. More importantly, pro-tiers made a common assumption that Marth is faster than Roy. While Marth indeed has a faster dashing speed, this claim is questionable, considering that Roy's [[SHFFL]] is faster than Marth's due to his falling speed and lower short hop. Similarly, some points brought up about Roy's viability are also now considered inaccurate. For instance, Roy's "superiority" in power has been disproven, as many of Marth's attacks, tippered and non-tippered, deal more knockback and damage than Roy's respective centered and non-sweetspotted strikes. The sweetspot in the hilt of the blade is now considered a disadvantage and one of the main reasons for Roy's poor tier placement; while Marth can attack from afar and still deal respectable damage, Roy cannot do so, lest his attacks hit with extremely low knockback; Roy's sourspot on the entire length of the Binding Blade, besides the hilt, is also much weaker than Marth's sourspot on the hilt of the Falchion. | ||
Overall, the primary reason for Roy's named inferiority is precisely the one that anti-tiers attempted to refute: Roy has too much trouble trying to KO his opponents. Marth has far more creative and flexible ways to string together moves, deal damage, KO, and edgeguard (especially due to his {{mvsub|Marth|SSBM|down aerial}} [[spike]]). Roy, however, lacks the same flexibility in his comboing and KOing games, and is instead heavily reliant on predictable and repetitive chain grab and down tilt setups, with almost all of his viable combos ending in a forward smash. Roy's edgeguarding game is also considerably worse than Marth's; while Roy's down tilt is more useful for combos, it is not at all useful for intercepting the majority of recoveries (unlike Marth's). Additionally, Roy has a notoriously poor | Overall, the primary reason for Roy's named inferiority is precisely the one that anti-tiers attempted to refute: Roy has too much trouble trying to KO his opponents. Marth has far more creative and flexible ways to string together moves, deal damage, KO, and edgeguard (especially due to his {{mvsub|Marth|SSBM|down aerial}} [[spike]]). Roy, however, lacks the same flexibility in his comboing and KOing games, and is instead heavily reliant on predictable and repetitive chain grab and down tilt setups, with almost all of his viable combos ending in a forward smash. Roy's edgeguarding game is also considerably worse than Marth's; while Roy's down tilt is more useful for combos, it is not at all useful for intercepting the majority of recoveries (unlike Marth's). Additionally, Roy has a notoriously poor off-stage game due to his falling speed and ineffective aerials, which hinders his ability to perform gimps without self-destructing. The current metagame for ''Melee'' reflects these differences and conclusions: Marth ranks in the S tier at 3rd place and features numerous dedicated mains, while Roy ranks in the F tier at 20th, and has very few dedicated mains of his own. | ||
Perhaps in spite of his inferiority to Marth, Roy still has a notably large fanbase in the ''Melee'' community, partially stemming from his notable roles in some [[machinima]]. In an unofficial poll held by NinBuzz, Roy was voted the fifth favorite ''Melee'' fighter among viewers, gaining 9% of the total vote. | |||
==In | ==In single-player modes== | ||
===In {{SSBM|Classic Mode}}=== | ===In {{SSBM|Classic Mode}}=== | ||
[[File:BetaAllStarIntro.png|thumb|Roy's unused intro image.]] | [[File:BetaAllStarIntro.png|thumb|right|Roy's unused intro image.]] | ||
Unusually, Roy does not appear in Classic Mode when unlocked, neither as an ally, nor as an opponent, making him the only fighter who never appears at all; the reason for this is unknown. Despite this, Roy does have an introduction image for the "Now Loading..." screen between matches | Unusually, Roy does not appear in Classic Mode when unlocked, neither as an ally, nor as an opponent, making him the only fighter who never appears at all; the reason for this is unknown. Despite this, Roy does have an introduction image for the "Now Loading..." screen between matches programmed into the disc. | ||
===In [[Adventure Mode]]=== | ===In [[Adventure Mode]]=== | ||
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</gallery></center> | </gallery></center> | ||
== | ==Trophies== | ||
In addition to the normal trophy about Roy as a character, there are two trophies about him as a fighter, unlocked by completing the | In addition to the normal trophy about Roy as a character, there are two trophies about him as a fighter, unlocked by completing the Adventure and All-Star modes respectively with Roy on any difficulty: | ||
: '''Roy ''' '''(Classic)''': | |||
: '' The son of the lord of Pharae Principality, Roy was studying in Ostia when the Kingdom of Bern invaded League of Lycia. His father fell ill at this time, so Roy assumed leadership of Pharae's armies. After his fateful meeting with the Princess Guinevere, his destiny became inextricably linked with the fate of the entire continent. '' | |||
:*Fire Emblem | |||
:*Japan Only | |||
:'''''(Smash Red)''''' | |||
:''While Roy's moves are well balanced, he's a little on the slow side, and doesn't excel at midair combat. His blade, the [[List of swords#Binding Blade|Sword of Seals]], gives him excellent reach, and makes his Double-Edge Dance slightly different than Marth's Dancing Blade. When it's fully charged, Roy's destructive Flare Blade delivers an instant KO.'' | |||
:* B: Flare Blade | |||
| | :* Smash B: Double-Edge Dance | ||
:'''''(Smash Blue)''''' | |||
:''Roy's blade is different than Marth's; he does the most damage hitting with the center of his sword. So, a fearless advance into the arms of his foe is Roy's best bet. Blazer is a bit slower than Marth's Dolphin Slash, but it's still a mighty attack that sets anyone it strikes aflame. Roy's attack after using Counter differs slightly from Marth's.'' | |||
:* Up & B: Blazer | |||
:* Down & B: Counter | |||
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<center> | |||
| | <gallery> | ||
Roy Trophy Melee.png|Classic | |||
| | Roy Trophy (Smash).png|Adventure | ||
Roy Trophy (Smash 2).png|All-Star | |||
</gallery> | |||
</center> | |||
==[[Alternate costume (SSBM)#Roy|Alternate costumes]]== | ==[[Alternate costume (SSBM)#Roy|Alternate costumes]]== | ||
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<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Roy SSBM Artwork.png|Official artwork of Roy. | Roy SSBM Artwork.png|Official artwork of Roy. | ||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
</center> | </center> | ||
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[[File:Royhal.png|thumb|Closeup of Roy's sword, showing the text "©HAL LABRATORY.INC"]] | [[File:Royhal.png|thumb|Closeup of Roy's sword, showing the text "©HAL LABRATORY.INC"]] | ||
*Close examination of textures for the Binding Blade shows the incorrectly spelt text "©HAL LABRATORY.INC" included in the file. It is not known why the signature is there. | *Close examination of textures for the Binding Blade shows the incorrectly spelt text "©HAL LABRATORY.INC" included in the file. It is not known why the signature is there. | ||
*Roy is the only | *Roy is referred within the game files with the codename "EMBLEM", which obviously comes from his series. | ||
* | *Roy does not feature a sheath during gameplay and his "Challenger Approaching" screen like Marth does; this is considered unusual, as Roy has a sheath in his victory poses, official art, character select portrait and all three of his trophies, as well as his unused Classic Mode introduction. | ||
** | *Roy and {{SSBM|Marth}} are the only two characters in ''Melee'' that speak Japanese even in the international release. | ||
* | *Roy and Marth are the only playable characters in ''Melee'' that do not have a stage representing their universe, though hacked data shows that [[AKANEIA|one was indeed planned]]. | ||
**In ''Melee''{{'}}s [[All-Star Mode]], Roy is fought on {{SSBM|Final Destination}}. In his two Event Match appearances and his unlock battle, he appears on [[Temple]]. | |||
* | *Roy and {{SSBM|Young Link}} are the only fighters to use their KO cry for other uses. Roy's is used when fully charging [[Flare Blade]] and Young Link's is used during his Star KO animation. | ||
**If {{SSBM|Kirby}} would to be included using [[Inhale (Kirby)|copy ability]] with Roy's Fully charged [[Flare Blade]], this would make Kirby be one of the fighters to use their KO cry. | |||
*Roy with his Flare Blade, {{SSBM|Mr. Game & Watch}} with his [[Judge]], and {{SSBM|Pichu}} with most of its electric attacks are the only characters in ''Melee'' to have attacks that directly inflict recoil damage. {{SSBM|Kirby}} can also harm himself if he copies either Roy or Pichu. | |||
*Along with Marth, Roy was originally going to be a character exclusive to the Japanese version of ''Super Smash Bros. Melee'', but was kept in all versions on request of an employee at Nintendo of America. Because of their inclusion, Western players took an interest in the ''Fire Emblem'' franchise, which sold in countries where the games in the series had not been released. | |||
*Roy's appearance in ''Melee'' was the first time he appeared in any game, as [[fireemblemwiki:Fire Emblem: The Binding Blade|his game]] was released after ''Melee''. | |||
**This technically makes Roy the first ever playable Nintendo character to debut through the ''Super Smash Bros.'' series. | |||
*All of Roy's sourspotted attacks make a punch/kick sound effect instead of a slashing sound effect. | |||
*Ironically, Roy's sword trails indicate that the sweetspot is at the tip of the sword. | |||
*Possibly as a result for his somewhat high learning curve and being a popular low-tier substitute for high-level smashers such as {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Ken}}, the term "skilled Roy" is a common gag inside the ''Melee'' community for being an unbeatable character, with the phrase "A skilled Roy can beat any {{SSBM|Fox}}. This is why I main Roy." being a good example of it. | *Possibly as a result for his somewhat high learning curve and being a popular low-tier substitute for high-level smashers such as {{Sm|Mew2King}} and {{Sm|Ken}}, the term "skilled Roy" is a common gag inside the ''Melee'' community for being an unbeatable character, with the phrase "A skilled Roy can beat any {{SSBM|Fox}}. This is why I main Roy." being a good example of it. | ||
*Roy and | *Roy's group chant has spiked in popularity among Smash players, and often used as a meme. | ||
* | *Roy's [[Counter]] does not have a limit to its maximum damage. If 3 or 4 Roys continuously counter each other, they can drive the damage of the counter's hitbox past 512, which [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHnCOSZ-tf4 crashes the game]. This is because hitboxes in ''Melee'' only have room to store 9 bits for damage, which equals a maximum of 511 before it overflows into other code. | ||
*Roy is one of the characters other than {{SSBM|Marth}} that can perform the [[Whispy blink glitch]]. | |||
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