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Roy is frequently placed within a group of characters ({{SSB4|Bowser}}, {{SSB4|Dr. Mario}}, {{SSB4|Charizard}}, {{SSB4|King Dedede}} and {{SSB4|Pit}}) that are the most noticeably reworked [[veteran]]s in ''SSB4''. In Roy's case, several of his moves were de-cloned from {{SSB4|Marth}} in a similar vein to {{SSBB|Falco}} and {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} in ''[[Brawl]]'', to the point that he is now a semi-clone. Although Roy received a mix of buffs and nerfs in the transition from ''Melee'' to ''SSB4'', he has overall been buffed.
Roy is frequently placed within a group of characters ({{SSB4|Bowser}}, {{SSB4|Dr. Mario}}, {{SSB4|Charizard}}, {{SSB4|King Dedede}} and {{SSB4|Pit}}) that are the most noticeably reworked [[veteran]]s in ''SSB4''. In Roy's case, several of his moves were de-cloned from {{SSB4|Marth}} in a similar vein to {{SSBB|Falco}} and {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} in ''[[Brawl]]'', to the point that he is now a semi-clone. Although Roy received a mix of buffs and nerfs in the transition from ''Melee'' to ''SSB4'', he has overall been buffed.


Among Roy's buffs are his greatly improved mobility, now having a much faster dashing speed and one of the fastest air speeds in the game, as well as his moveset being notably more rewarding than in ''Melee'': most of his moves are different from Marth, such as his new neutral attack, forward and up tilts, dash attack and down aerial, most of which have reduced lag, improved hitbox placements, and increased power, improving his close-ranged offense and combo game, and giving him more reliable KO moves. His damage output is much higher, and his sweetspotted attacks are considerably more powerful, giving him a bevy of new KOing options, which generally alleviates his main weakness from ''Melee''. His attack speed is faster overall, with his aerials in particular having significantly reduced ending and landing lag, [[L-canceling]] notwithstanding. The addition of [[rage]] boosts his KO power even further, while his heavier weight allows him to use it quite effectively. He also has much better endurance thanks to a his much higher weight. Lastly, Roy's recovery is generally better, thanks to [[Blazer]]'s improved horizontal distance, his faster air speed, and the removal of [[edge hogging]].
Among Roy's buffs are his greatly improved mobility, now having a much faster dashing speed and one of the fastest air speeds in the game, as well as his moveset being notably more rewarding than in ''Melee'': most of his moves are different from Marth, such as his new neutral attack, forward and up tilts, dash attack and down aerial, most of which have reduced lag, improved hitbox placements, and increased power, improving his close-ranged offense and combo game, and giving him more reliable KO moves. His damage output is much higher, and his sweetspotted attacks are considerably more powerful, giving him a bevy of new KOing options, which generally alleviates his main weakness from ''Melee''. His attack speed is faster overall, with his aerials in particular having significantly reduced ending and landing lag, [[L-canceling]] notwithstanding. The addition of [[rage]] boosts his KO power even further, while his heavier weight allows him to use it quite effectively. He also has much better endurance thanks to a his much higher weight. Lastly, Roy's recovery is generally better, thanks to [[Blazer]]'s improved horizontal distance, his faster air speed, and the introduction of edge trumping.


However, Roy has also received several nerfs. Roy now stands at Marth's height, which enlarges his hurtbox, though his attacks have much shorter ranges and hitbox durations in spite of this, forcing him to fight at a much closer range, exacerbating one of his key weaknesses in ''Melee''. For the most part, Roy is also harmed by the post-''Melee'' gameplay changes: the loss of [[wavedash]]ing and L-canceling, as well as the weakening of [[dash-dancing]], noticeably worsen his approach. The general increase in range for other characters since ''Melee'', such as with {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}} and {{SSB4|Bowser}}, also indirectly hurts him. [[Double-Edge Dance]]'s first hit has almost completely lost its ability to stall his descent due to his faster falling speed, which hurts his recovery despite its improvements. Lastly, Roy's heavier weight makes him easy to combo despite falling speeds being slower in ''SSB4'' than they were in ''Melee''.
However, Roy has also received several nerfs. Roy now stands at Marth's height, which enlarges his hurtbox, though his attacks have much shorter ranges and hitbox durations in spite of this, forcing him to fight at a much closer range, exacerbating one of his key weaknesses in ''Melee''. For the most part, Roy is also harmed by the post-''Melee'' gameplay changes: the loss of [[wavedash]]ing and L-canceling, as well as the weakening of [[dash-dancing]], noticeably worsen his approach. The general increase in range for other characters since ''Melee'', such as with {{SSB4|Donkey Kong}} and {{SSB4|Bowser}}, also indirectly hurts him. [[Double-Edge Dance]]'s first hit has almost completely lost its ability to stall his descent due to his faster falling speed, which hurts his recovery despite its improvements. Lastly, Roy's heavier weight makes him easy to combo despite falling speeds being slower in ''SSB4'' than they were in ''Melee''.

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