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==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
Robin is a tall, middleweight character who has very low ground mobility. Robin’s dashing speed is the second slowest in the game, and his walking speed is very slow. While his dashing speed is below average, Robin still has an average initial dash distance, which allows | Robin is a tall, middleweight character who has very low ground mobility. Robin’s dashing speed is the second slowest in the game, and his walking speed is very slow. While his dashing speed is below average, Robin still has an average initial dash distance, which allows Robin users to rely on [[Fox-trotting]] as a quicker ground movement option. Outside of these attributes, Robin's other traits are typical of a middleweight; his air speed, traction, falling speed, and gravity are all average. However, Robin's air acceleration is above average. As a result of these attributes, Robin has difficulty chasing foes and fleeing from them at the same time, though his oddly decent aerial mobility compensates this to a degree. | ||
Robin's tomes provide a myriad of spacing, pressuring, and additional damaging capabilities. Both the {{iw|fireemblemwiki|Thunder|tome}} and [[fireemblemwiki:Fire (tome)|Fire tome]]s can disrupt opponents, rack up damage, and open up windows to chain attacks together. {{B|Thunder|Robin}} and the slightly stronger Elthunder peppers at mid-range or shorter, while Arcthunder travels for longer and has trapping capabilities for pressure, combos and set-ups, and Thoron pierces through opponents and deals considerable knockback. [[Arcfire]] produces a trapping, multiple hitting pillar of flame that is instrumental for approaching or disrupting [[approach]]es, pressuring, and chaining together attacks. In addition to the Fire tome, Robin's neutral attack involves the [[fireemblemwiki:Wind (tome)|Wind tome]]: the former tome generates a singular explosion of fire magic that deals strong diagonal knockback, while the latter tome generates a neutral infinite consisting of wind magic that deals high damage and concludes with a blast of wind magic that deals strong vertical knockback. [[Elwind]] provides respectable vertical recovery and its first hit can be used to punish aerial and post-recovery opponents by spiking them at point-blank with the first hit. Lastly, [[Nosferatu]] is a self-healing move which heals Robin, especially if cast from behind and while having a higher damage percentage than his opponent, while it also cannot be shielded due to functioning like a grab. However, it is tricky to use, as the opponent must be at almost point-blank range to land it, although Arcthunder's trapping ability can help Robin land it easier, and it grants full-body [[Intangibility|intangibility]]. | Robin's tomes provide a myriad of spacing, pressuring, and additional damaging capabilities. Both the {{iw|fireemblemwiki|Thunder|tome}} and [[fireemblemwiki:Fire (tome)|Fire tome]]s can disrupt opponents, rack up damage, and open up windows to chain attacks together. {{B|Thunder|Robin}} and the slightly stronger Elthunder peppers at mid-range or shorter, while Arcthunder travels for longer and has trapping capabilities for pressure, combos and set-ups, and Thoron pierces through opponents and deals considerable knockback. [[Arcfire]] produces a trapping, multiple hitting pillar of flame that is instrumental for approaching or disrupting [[approach]]es, pressuring, and chaining together attacks. In addition to the Fire tome, Robin's neutral attack involves the [[fireemblemwiki:Wind (tome)|Wind tome]]: the former tome generates a singular explosion of fire magic that deals strong diagonal knockback, while the latter tome generates a neutral infinite consisting of wind magic that deals high damage and concludes with a blast of wind magic that deals strong vertical knockback. [[Elwind]] provides respectable vertical recovery and its first hit can be used to punish aerial and post-recovery opponents by spiking them at point-blank with the first hit. Lastly, [[Nosferatu]] is a self-healing move which heals Robin, especially if cast from behind and while having a higher damage percentage than his opponent, while it also cannot be shielded due to functioning like a grab. However, it is tricky to use, as the opponent must be at almost point-blank range to land it, although Arcthunder's trapping ability can help Robin land it easier, and it grants full-body [[Intangibility|intangibility]]. | ||
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==Update history== | ==Update history== | ||
Robin received a mix of buffs, nerfs and a single glitch fix via game updates, but was buffed slightly overall. Update 2.0.0 made [[Elwind]] safer for recovering by shortening its edge lockout time when it is used backwards. Update 3.0.0 decreased the shield damage outputs of {{b|Thunder|Robin}}, Elthunder and [[Arcfire]] as part of a near-universal nerf to projectiles. | Robin received a mix of buffs, nerfs and a single glitch fix via game updates, but was buffed slightly overall. Update 2.0.0 made [[Elwind]] safer for recovering by shortening its edge lockout time when it is used backwards. Update 3.0.0 decreased the shield damage outputs of {{b|Thunder|Robin}}, Elthunder and [[Arcfire]] as part of a near-universal nerf to projectiles. However, update 6.0.0 provided a number of useful buffs for Robin. The most notable ones were to Thunder and Arcfire: the former had its charge times sped up significantly, whereas the latter gained significantly more active frames. As a result, Robin's respectable zoning ability and trapping potential were improved by a fairly noticeable degree. | ||
This update also granted Robin a few quality of life buffs: forward tilt's higher base knockback improved its spacing potential, neutral aerial's overall lag was decreased (which also improved it as a follow-up from down throw), and the Levin Sword's durability will replenish slightly faster upon using the Bronze Sword for smash attacks. Update 9.0.0 granted [[transcendent priority]] to neutral infinite's finisher as part of a near-universal buff, while update 13.0.1 improved neutral infinite's damage racking potential and range. | |||
Update 9.0.0 granted [[transcendent priority]] to neutral infinite's finisher as part of a near-universal buff, while update 13.0.1 improved neutral infinite's damage racking potential and range. | |||
Overall, Robin fares slightly better than he did at the launch of ''Ultimate'', although not enough to change his position in the metagame. | Overall, Robin fares slightly better than he did at the launch of ''Ultimate'', although not enough to change his position in the metagame. | ||
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|fsmashdmg=Bronze: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|9.6}} <br/>Levin: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10}} (late) | |fsmashdmg=Bronze: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|9.6}} <br/>Levin: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|16}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10}} (late) | ||
|fsmashdesc=An underhanded outward thrust. A powerful KO option; with the Levin Sword, it also possesses a lingering hitbox. The clean hit can KO rather early, while the late hit, though much weaker, is capable of KOing around 165% from the center of Final Destination. | |fsmashdesc=An underhanded outward thrust. A powerful KO option; with the Levin Sword, it also possesses a lingering hitbox. The clean hit can KO rather early, while the late hit, though much weaker, is capable of KOing around 165% from the center of Final Destination. | ||
|usmashname=Rising Thrust ({{ja|ライジングスラスト|Raijing Surasuto}}) / Spinning Sword ({{ja|スピニングソード|Supuingu Sōdo}}) | |usmashname= Rising Thrust ({{ja|ライジングスラスト|Raijing Surasuto}}) / Spinning Sword ({{ja|スピニングソード|Supuingu Sōdo}}) | ||
|usmashdmg=Bronze: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|9}} <br/>Levin: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10}} (early), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10}} (late) | |usmashdmg=Bronze: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|9}} <br/>Levin: {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10}} (early), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|15}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBU|10}} (late) | ||
|usmashdesc=The animation differs depending on the sword that is used: if it is the Bronze Sword, Robin thrusts it upward. If it is the Levin Sword, Robin will gesture upwards with the Levin Sword, which causes it to levitate out of his hand, twirling backwards from Robin's facing direction once before he catches it. The Levin Sword's sweetspot hitbox lasts for the duration of it twirling upwards and has great coverage, capable of hitting opponents on the ground and behind Robin. The Levin Sword's sourspot is smaller, but has very high active frames (16 frames), making it overall good against aerial opponents. In contrast, the Bronze Sword version is unremarkable, and functions similar to a very weak version of {{SSBU|Hero}}'s up smash. | |usmashdesc=The animation differs depending on the sword that is used: if it is the Bronze Sword, Robin thrusts it upward. If it is the Levin Sword, Robin will gesture upwards with the Levin Sword, which causes it to levitate out of his hand, twirling backwards from Robin's facing direction once before he catches it. The Levin Sword's sweetspot hitbox lasts for the duration of it twirling upwards and has great coverage, capable of hitting opponents on the ground and behind Robin. The Levin Sword's sourspot is smaller, but has very high active frames (16 frames), making it overall good against aerial opponents. In contrast, the Bronze Sword version is unremarkable, and functions similar to a very weak version of {{SSBU|Hero}}'s up smash. | ||
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|dairdmg=Bronze: {{ShortHopDmgSSBU|7.2}} <br/>Levin: {{ShortHopDmgSSBU|11}} (clean), {{ShortHopDmgSSBU|8}} (late) | |dairdmg=Bronze: {{ShortHopDmgSSBU|7.2}} <br/>Levin: {{ShortHopDmgSSBU|11}} (clean), {{ShortHopDmgSSBU|8}} (late) | ||
|dairdesc=A downward slash. It also hits slightly in front of Robin. The sweet spot in the middle of the Levin Sword can [[meteor smash]] while it is swung down, while the Bronze Sword cannot meteor smash at all. The move has a lingering hitbox in both of its versions, with the lingering hit of the Bronze version sending lower than the Levin version, which gives both versions a niche use for edgeguarding. Has high landing lag (16 frames). | |dairdesc=A downward slash. It also hits slightly in front of Robin. The sweet spot in the middle of the Levin Sword can [[meteor smash]] while it is swung down, while the Bronze Sword cannot meteor smash at all. The move has a lingering hitbox in both of its versions, with the lingering hit of the Bronze version sending lower than the Levin version, which gives both versions a niche use for edgeguarding. Has high landing lag (16 frames). | ||
|grabname=Grab ({{ja|つかみ|Tsukami}}) | |grabname=Grab ({{ja|つかみ|Tsukami}}) | ||
|grabdesc=Wraps the opponent in a whirling stream of magic. The grab's range is visualized by a halo. This halo | |grabdesc=Wraps the opponent in a whirling stream of magic. The grab's range is visualized by a halo. This halo also appears when Robin successfully grabs an opponent. Compared to other grabs, Robin's grab is on the slow side, coming out at frame 7; coupled with its average range (same as Palutena), this makes it rather undependable and punishable. However, Robin has a great Pivot Grab and one of the best Roll Cancel Grab in the game, allowing them to cover a large distance when mastered. | ||
|pummelname=Grab Force Attack ({{ja|つかみフォースアタック|Tsukami Fōsu Atakku}}) | |pummelname=Grab Force Attack ({{ja|つかみフォースアタック|Tsukami Fōsu Atakku}}) | ||
|pummeldmg=1.5% | |pummeldmg=1.5% | ||
|pummeldesc=A | |pummeldesc=A small blast of magic. Although weaker, it is also much faster compared to its previous iteration. | ||
|fthrowname=Force Kinesis ({{ja|フォースキネシス|Fōsu Kineshisu}}) | |fthrowname=Force Kinesis ({{ja|フォースキネシス|Fōsu Kineshisu}}) | ||
|fthrowdmg=8% | |fthrowdmg=8% | ||
|fthrowdesc=Magically shoves the opponent forward. Has moderate base knockback but low knockback scaling, making it more suited for sending opponents offstage. | |fthrowdesc=Magically shoves the opponent forward. Has moderate base knockback but low knockback scaling, making it more suited for sending opponents offstage. | ||
|bthrowname=Reverse Kinesis ({{ja|リバースキネシス|Ribāsu Kineshisu}}) | |bthrowname=Reverse Kinesis ({{ja|リバースキネシス|Ribāsu Kineshisu}}) | ||
|bthrowdmg=11% | |bthrowdmg=11% | ||
|bthrowdesc=Turns around and magically tosses the opponent backward. Robin's strongest throw, with very high base knockback and decently high knockback growth. | |bthrowdesc=Turns around and magically tosses the opponent backward. Robin's strongest throw, with very high base knockback and decently high knockback growth. | ||
|uthrowname=Launch Kinesis ({{ja|ローンチキネシス|Rōnchi Kineshisu}}) | |uthrowname=Launch Kinesis ({{ja|ローンチキネシス|Rōnchi Kineshisu}}) | ||
|uthrowdmg=9% | |uthrowdmg=9% | ||
|uthrowdesc=Magically heaves the opponent upwards. | |uthrowdesc=Magically heaves the opponent upwards. | ||
|dthrowname=Pressure Kinesis ({{ja|プレッシャーキネシス|Puressha Kineshisu}}) | |dthrowname=Pressure Kinesis ({{ja|プレッシャーキネシス|Puressha Kineshisu}}) | ||
|dthrowdmg=6% | |dthrowdmg=6% | ||
|dthrowdesc=Magically slams the opponent onto the ground, launching them vertically upward. Its knockback has been increased from the previous game, which allows for KOs below 200%. However, this removes Robin's ability to perform effective follow-ups, but it can still combo into up tilt at low percents and neutral aerial at mid percents. | |dthrowdesc=Magically slams the opponent onto the ground, launching them vertically upward. Its knockback has been increased from the previous game, which allows for KOs below 200%. However, this removes Robin's ability to perform effective follow-ups, but it can still combo into up tilt at low percents and neutral aerial at mid percents. | ||
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|ssname=Arcfire | |ssname=Arcfire | ||
|ssdmg=2% (hit 1), 1.2% (hits 2-8), 4% (final explosion) | |ssdmg=2% (hit 1), 1.2% (hits 2-8), 4% (final explosion) | ||
|ssdesc=Robin casts [[fireemblemwiki:Fire (magic)|fire magic]] from an [[fireemblemwiki:Arcfire|Arcfire tome]]. It creates a tiny fireball that travels diagonally downward from above Robin’s head and bursts into a pillar of flame on impact with an opponent or shield. Opponents trapped in the flame pillar take multiple hits and are pushed slightly upwards, and when the pillar expires, it explodes, dealing a fair amount of upward knockback. It is primarily useful for disrupting approaches and capitalizing on the opponent's reaction, while it can also be used for edgeguarding, either by directly attacking the opponent or covering the edge as they attempt to grab it. However, if the initial fireball meets any hitbox from the opponent, the fireball will dissipate without detonating. Can combo and kill | |ssdesc=Robin casts [[fireemblemwiki:Fire (magic)|fire magic]] from an [[fireemblemwiki:Arcfire|Arcfire tome]]. It creates a tiny fireball that travels diagonally downward from above Robin’s head and bursts into a pillar of flame on impact with an opponent or shield. Opponents trapped in the flame pillar take multiple hits and are pushed slightly upwards, and when the pillar expires, it explodes, dealing a fair amount of upward knockback. It is primarily useful for disrupting approaches and capitalizing on the opponent's reaction, while it can also be used for edgeguarding, either by directly attacking the opponent or covering the edge as they attempt to grab it. However, if the initial fireball meets any hitbox from the opponent, the fireball will dissipate without detonating. Can combo and kill confirm into up smash; can also combo into itself, aerials, and Nosferatu if timed properly. | ||
|usname=Elwind | |usname=Elwind | ||
|usdmg=5% (first blade), 7% (second blade) | |usdmg=5% (first blade), 7% (second blade) | ||
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! scope="row"|Description | ! scope="row"|Description | ||
|Ro - bin! || Ref - let! || Daaaaaraen! || Ro - bin! || Ro - bin! | |Ro - bin! || Ref - let! || Daaaaaraen! || Ro - bin! || Ro - bin! | ||
|} | |} | ||
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! scope="row"|Description | ! scope="row"|Description | ||
| | |Ro - Ro - bin! || ¡Ro - bin! {{NTSC}} <br> ¡Daraen! ¡Daraen! ¡Ra ra ra! {{PAL}}|| Robin! *claps 2 times* || Ro - bu - in! | ||
|} | |} | ||
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*{{Sm|Angel|USA}} - The best Robin player in the United States online metagame, reaching a peak of 13th on the [[Wi-Fi Warrior Rank v7]] and strong performances at large online events such as placing 4th at {{Trn|The Box: Lunch Box 18}}, 7th at {{Trn|The Airlock}}, and top 8 at several {{Trn|Coinbox}} events. Although not as active offline, he notably placed 33rd at the major {{Trn|Let's Make Big Moves 2022}}. | *{{Sm|Angel|USA}} - The best Robin player in the United States online metagame, reaching a peak of 13th on the [[Wi-Fi Warrior Rank v7]] and strong performances at large online events such as placing 4th at {{Trn|The Box: Lunch Box 18}}, 7th at {{Trn|The Airlock}}, and top 8 at several {{Trn|Coinbox}} events. Although not as active offline, he notably placed 33rd at the major {{Trn|Let's Make Big Moves 2022}}. | ||
*{{Sm|Juuuuul|USA}} - The first Robin player with noteworthy major results and was the best Robin player in the early metagame. He has defeated many of [[Tristate]]'s best players in early-''Ultimate'', including {{Sm|LeoN}} at {{Trn|Player's Ball Ultimate}} and {{Sm|Mr. E}} at {{Trn|Return to Yoshi's Island}}. At majors, he placed 13th at {{Trn|Suplex City Smash}} and {{Trn|Defend the North 2019}}, which remained the untied best placements for a Robin player at a major event for several years afterwards. He became inactive in 2020. | *{{Sm|Juuuuul|USA}} - The first Robin player with noteworthy major results and was the best Robin player in the early metagame. He has defeated many of [[Tristate]]'s best players in early-''Ultimate'', including {{Sm|LeoN}} at {{Trn|Player's Ball Ultimate}} and {{Sm|Mr. E}} at {{Trn|Return to Yoshi's Island}}. At majors, he placed 13th at {{Trn|Suplex City Smash}} and {{Trn|Defend the North 2019}}, which remained the untied best placements for a Robin player at a major event for several years afterwards. He became inactive in 2020. | ||
*{{Sm|Leaf|Japan|p=Japan}} - The best Robin player in the world since 2023 | *{{Sm|Leaf|Japan|p=Japan}} - The best Robin player in the world since 2023 who broke out at {{Trn|DELTA 5}} by placing 13th and {{Sm|Zackray}}, the best Robin performance in ''Ultimate'' at that time. Since then, Leaf has achieved performances that no other Robin player has done so, including placing 3rd at {{Trn|DELTA 7.5}} defeating {{Sm|Umeki}} and 17th at {{Trn|DELTA 8}} defeating {{Sm|Maister}} and {{Sm|BassMage}}. | ||
*{{Sm|morrocoYo|Venezuela}} - The best Robin player in South America who is one of Venezuela's best players, winning several of South America's largest events including {{Trn|Stone Ocean 7}} and {{Trn|Smash Cup 24}}. Outside of Venezuela, he has also placed 49th at the {{Trn|Smash World Tour 2021 Last Chance Qualifier}}. He was ranked as an honorable mention for the 101st-150th positions on the [[LumiRank 2023]] due to having no activity at majors. | *{{Sm|morrocoYo|Venezuela}} - The best Robin player in South America who is one of Venezuela's best players, winning several of South America's largest events including {{Trn|Stone Ocean 7}} and {{Trn|Smash Cup 24}}. Outside of Venezuela, he has also placed 49th at the {{Trn|Smash World Tour 2021 Last Chance Qualifier}}. He was ranked as an honorable mention for the 101st-150th positions on the [[LumiRank 2023]] due to having no activity at majors. | ||
*{{Sm|Synergy|USA}} - Active since the early metagame and was the best Robin player in 2021, placing 25th at both {{Trn|Super Smash Con: Fall Fest}} and {{Trn|CEO 2021}}. Since then he remains one of the best Robin players in the United States, most notably defeating {{Sm|MKBigBoss}} at {{Trn|Luminosity Makes BIG Moves 2024}}. | *{{Sm|Synergy|USA}} - Active since the early metagame and was the best Robin player in 2021, placing 25th at both {{Trn|Super Smash Con: Fall Fest}} and {{Trn|CEO 2021}}. Since then he remains one of the best Robin players in the United States, most notably notably defeating {{Sm|MKBigBoss}} at {{Trn|Luminosity Makes BIG Moves 2024}}. | ||
===Tier placement and history=== | ===Tier placement and history=== | ||
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*Despite now being a playable character, {{SSBU|Chrom}} still appears in [[Pair Up]] and Robin's victory poses, even if Chrom is in the fight with Robin. | *Despite now being a playable character, {{SSBU|Chrom}} still appears in [[Pair Up]] and Robin's victory poses, even if Chrom is in the fight with Robin. | ||
**This makes Robin one of the two characters who have a separate playable character in one of their victory poses, the other being {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}} (with {{SSBU|Mario}} appearing in one of its victory poses). | **This makes Robin one of the two characters who have a separate playable character in one of their victory poses, the other being {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}} (with {{SSBU|Mario}} appearing in one of its victory poses). | ||
*Robin is the only character with no attacks that fall under the [[physical]] supertype, with all of Robin's moves being of only the following [[type]]s: {{b|Sword|type}}, {{b|Magic|type}}, [[Throwing]], and [[Typeless]]. This makes Robin the only character with no moves that can be buffed by the "Physical Attack ↑" [[Spirit#Attack Skills|Spirit]] effect. | *Robin is the only character with no attacks that fall under the [[physical]] supertype, with all of Robin's moves being of only the following [[type]]s: {{b|Sword|type}}, {{b|Magic|type}}, [[Throwing]], and [[Typeless]]. This makes Robin the only character with no moves that can be buffed by the "Physical Attack ↑" [[Spirit#Attack Skills|Spirit]] effect | ||
*Male Robin will sometimes say the quote: "Lucina, I hope I didn't hurt you." when fighting against Lucina. However, this may occur even when Lucina is not present in the match. | |||
**Additionally, when the victory quote is used, the flame effects will not play. | |||
*The cover of Robin's Thunder tome will change to match its current level of charge.<ref>https://twitter.com/ssb4_Mr_II/status/1077724198389178368</ref> | *The cover of Robin's Thunder tome will change to match its current level of charge.<ref>https://twitter.com/ssb4_Mr_II/status/1077724198389178368</ref> | ||
*When Robin uses Thoron, he will become immune to tripping from attacks that don't use the [[slip]] effect (such as {{SSBU|Wario}}'s uncharged [[Wario Waft]] or [[Banana Peel]]s), even if the attack has a 100% trip chance (e.g. {{mvsub|Pichu|SSBU|forward tilt|poss=y}}). The only way to re-enable tripping is to [[respawn]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/1Archmage/status/1580993179767406594 @1Archmage showcasing untrippable Robin]</ref> This also happens with Kirby's [[Copy Ability]], even if the Copy Ability disappears. | *When Robin uses Thoron, he will become immune to tripping from attacks that don't use the [[slip]] effect (such as {{SSBU|Wario}}'s uncharged [[Wario Waft]] or [[Banana Peel]]s), even if the attack has a 100% trip chance (e.g. {{mvsub|Pichu|SSBU|forward tilt|poss=y}}). The only way to re-enable tripping is to [[respawn]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/1Archmage/status/1580993179767406594 @1Archmage showcasing untrippable Robin]</ref> This also happens with Kirby's [[Copy Ability]], even if the Copy Ability disappears. |