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| '''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is a [[starter character]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. He was officially announced at [[E3]] 2001. | | {{cquote|''A psychic boy with a distinct midair jump.''|cite=Description from ''Melee's'' manual.}} |
| | | '''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is a [[default character]] in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''. Announced at [[E3]] 2001, he was originally going to be replaced by [[Lucas]] from ''[[Mother 3]]''; the ultimate cancellation of the game for the Nintendo 64, however, caused [[Masahiro Sakurai]] to retain Ness. |
| Makiko Ōmoto reprises her role as Ness in ''Melee'' with new voice clips.
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| Ness is currently ranked 23rd out of 26 on the [[tier list]], placing within the D tier. This is a slight fall from his already very low placement in ''Smash 64'', where he was 10th out of 12 characters in the NTSC version, and his worst placement to date. While still possessing great throws and a great aerial and combo game thanks to his double jump cancel, Ness is strongly held back by having almost non-existent approach options on the ground due to significant range issues in most of his attacks; having one of the worst recoveries in the game, and he also has significant trouble KOing opponents, due to him possessing some of the worst smash attacks in the game, having overall very weak KO power and due to his aforementioned poor range. As a result of these significant weaknesses, Ness has terrible [[matchup]]s across the cast, is considered non-viable in competitive play, and has nearly non-existent representation in the modern metagame.
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| | He is currently ranked 23rd on the [[tier list]], placing in F tier. This is a slight drop from his previous ranking where he was 10th in '' Smash 64''. While still having fantastic throws and a great aerial game thanks to his double jump cancel, Ness has a poor approach on the ground due to significant range issues in most of his attacks; his recovery is also easy to intercept and edgeguard against, and he also has significant trouble KOing opponents, due to his surprisingly weak KO power and due to his aforementionned poor range. As a result of these significant weaknesses, Ness has very poor [[Matchup|matchups]], with six nearly unwinnable, one even (against {{SSBM|Yoshi}}), and only three slightly favorable (against {{SSBM|Bowser}}, {{SSBM|Kirby}}, and {{SSBM|Pichu}}). |
| ==Attributes== | | ==Attributes== |
| Ness is an unusual blend of character archetypes; many of his attributes are unique in comparison to other characters, such as his projectiles, his [[recovery]] and his midair [[jump]]. Ness has below average [[traction]] and a below average [[falling speed]], giving him an above-average [[wavedash]] that is relatively quick. Ness is a projectile-heavy character, as he has 3 projectiles: [[PK Flash]], [[PK Fire]], and [[PK Thunder]], while also having a healing move in his [[PSI Magnet]]. | | Ness is an unusual blend of character archetypes; many of his attributes are unique in comparison to other characters, such as his projectiles, his [[recovery]] and his midair [[jump]]. Ness has above average [[traction]] and a moderately low [[falling speed]], giving him an above-average [[wavedash]] that is relatively quick. Ness is a projectile-heavy character, as he has 3 projectiles: [[PK Flash]], [[PK Fire]] and [[PK Thunder]], while also having a healing move in his [[PSI Magnet]]. |
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| Arguably Ness's greatest strength is his combo game. Despite a poor [[SHFFL]] due to his high short hop and low falling speed, Ness has many ways to pressure and combo in the air thanks to his [[double jump cancel]] (often abbreviated DJC). By cancelling out of his midair jump with an aerial, Ness can quickly and efficiently use his multiple aerial attacks; this is especially important considering the utility of his aerial attacks. His [[neutral aerial]] and [[forward aerial]] attacks acting as potential combo starters (especially the latter) and his back, up and down air attacks serve as good KO moves. Due to this, his air approach is considered to be much better than his ground approach.
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| Although Ness has a poor ground approach, he still boasts two effective options: his grab game and the [[Yo-yo glitch]]. Ness' throws all have excellent utility; his forward throw has extremely high base knockback, making it ideal for starting edgeguards. His down throw is a decent combo starter, having potential to lead into his DJC'd aerials. His up throw is a decent chain grab and can be used in conjunction with PK Thunder to rack up damage or play mindgames. Finally, his back throw is the strongest throw in the game, making it a deadly KOing option. As for the Yo-yo glitch, Ness is the only character to have access to this technique. It is initiated through his up smash, and can be used to attack or grab with near limitless range or attach certain single-hitbox attacks to Ness's body. This can significantly increase Ness' range and options when performed properly.
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| Ness' greatest flaw, however, is his significant range problems. All of his attacks (especially his tilts) have little range or small hitboxes, making hitting an opponent very difficult. Although wavedashing can help out this problem somewhat, Ness' ground based options have too little utility overall to be consistently applicable. When combined with his somewhat slow movement, Ness has significant trouble approaching opponents. Thus, his dash attack is considered to be his only reliable ground approach option, due to its decent range unlike most of his other attacks. Also, Ness's grab has the second shortest range in all of the game (only to {{SSBM|Pikachu}}), thus making it difficult for him to take advantage of his versatile throws, while his dash grab is extremely laggy and barely improves its range. Finally, against opponents with particularly good spacing games, most notoriously {{SSBM|Marth}}, Ness can be easily overwhelmed in his attempts to approach opponents in the air despite the power of his DJC.
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| Even when attempting to approach his opponents, Ness suffers from noticeable KOing problems, largely due to his poor power and range. He possesses a terrible set of smash attacks in the game: his up and down smashes are by far the weakest of their kind and his forward smash relies on a sweetspot at the tip of the bat to KO effectively. Outside of his smash attacks, most of his strongest finishers suffer from poor range (his back, up and down aerials, along with his back throw), long start-up and ending lag (his down aerial), low base knockback (up aerial and back throw), having small, unreliable sweetspots (his aforementioned forward smash), or simply being unsafe and situational (PK Flash and PK Thunder 2).
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| Ness' special moveset also has some problems: it is rather situational overall. PK Flash boasts extreme power when fully charged and is great for punishing poorly positioned opponents offstage, but it is limited to edgeguarding due to it being very slow and difficult to land. PK Fire can trap opponents and leave them open for follow-ups, and can even gimp fast-fallers. However, it has short reach for a projectile and is very easy to SDI out of, making it easy to punish. PK Thunder is Ness' most useful special move; it is unique for controlling a thunder ball which can be moved in any direction, allowing for mindgames, offstage gimps, and even a powerful KOing option in PK Thunder 2. However it has one critical flaw: the player loses control of Ness during the move, leaving him open to extremely powerful attacks if he can't hit the opponent quick enough. Finally, PSI Magnet can heal Ness and put him in a better position defensively, but it is rather slow and completely dependent on the opposing character, as it only absorbs energy-based projectiles.
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| Outside of his poor approach, Ness also suffers from a catastrophic recovery. Ness's recovery has its merits; he has the second highest midair jump in the game (second to only Yoshi) and his midair jump has unusual properties in its trajectory; PK Thunder 2 also grants a rather long distance, with a moderately large sweetspot and a long period of invincibility frames. The move is also very risky to block due to possessing KO power that reliably KOs at 90%. Despite these benefits, however, Ness's recovery still is cited as arguably the worst in the game, in spite of its long length, due to possessing many notable flaws. If Ness uses an aerial to fend off edgeguarders, his double jump is cancelled and can prevent him from recovering if unable to act soon enough. PK Thunder's projectile instantly disappears upon hitting opponents, and this is very easily abusable by edgeguarders, further worsened by PK Thunder 2's slow startup. In the process of having to start PK Thunder 2, characters with good recoveries (such as {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} or {{SSBM|Samus}}) can merely jump into the projectile and take minor knockback and damage, immediately sending Ness into a state of [[helplessness]], though this is a risky strategy. Projectiles such as {{SSBM|Link}}'s Boomerangs and the {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}' [[Ice Shot]] can easily disrupt the projectile as well, and in these cases, damage is not even inflicted to the opponent. PK Thunder 2 also suffers from a number of problems. Notably, it is difficult to angle correctly, and it can easily curve under lips of stages, most notably on {{SSBM|Battlefield}}. Its linear nature can also make it easy to read and edgeguard for many characters, despite the invincibility frames found within it, and attacks like Mario's [[Cape]] or Link's [[Spin Attack]] can easily intercept the attack as Ness charges to the stage. Finally, PK Thunder 2 has significant ending lag, and if Ness recovers directly onto the stage after using it, opponents can easily capitalize on this ending lag by landing a powerful hit on Ness that he cannot hope to counter.
| | Arguably Ness's greatest strength is his [[double jump cancel]] (often abbreviated DJC). By cancelling out of his midair jump with an aerial, Ness can quickly and efficiently use his multiple aerial attacks; as Ness's ground-based options are poor, his various aerial attacks can act as superior alternatives to them, with his [[neutral aerial]] and [[forward aerial]] attacks acting as potential combo starters (especially the latter) and his back and up air attacks acting as KO moves. Due to this, his air approach is considered to be much better than his ground approach. Furthermore, Ness alone has access to the [[Yo-yo glitch]], which can significantly increase his range and options when performed properly. |
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| ==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]''==
| | Ness, however, suffers from very poor range in his attacks, which, in turn, significantly increases his difficultly in approaching and KOing opponents, especially on the ground. Ness's tilts have little range; furthermore, while Ness does have a decently-lengthed wavedash, none of his smashes can be used in wavesmashing, as his forward smash needs to be sweetspotted to actually be powerful, while his up and down smashes are laggy and have poor hitbox placements and awkwardly weak knockback. Thus, his dash attack is considered to be his only reliable ground approach option, which can be exploited due to its long ending lag. Also, Ness's grab has the second shortest range in all of the game (only to {{SSBM|Pikachu}}), thus making it difficult for him to KO opponents via his powerful throws, while his dash grab ius considered the worst in the game (along with Yoshi) as it just barely increases its range and it features considerable lag if it whiffs. Furthermore, as Ness has a high short hop and a low falling speed, he also has a rather poor [[SHFFL]]. Additionally, all of his projectiles are heavily flawed: PK Flash is slow, has poor mobility, and is only useful as a situational edge guard, PK Fire can be versatile when used properly, but has very poor range and is SDI'd extremely easily and is slow, essentially making it a very poor projectile on the ground and its only real use being to gimp fast-fallers, while PK Thunder is considered more useful, it is very slow and leaves Ness very vulnerable. Also, while PSI Magnet can be effective, it is laggy and is very character dependant, as he can't use it at all against other projectile-heavy characters with no energy projectiles (such as Link and his younger counterpart) or against characters with no projectiles at all, making it relatively situational. Finally, against opponents with particularly good spacing games, like {{SSBM|Marth}}, Ness can be easily overwhelmed in his attempts to approach opponents in the air. |
| While Ness is considered to be a low tier in ''Smash 64'' owing to his poor range, mobility and most notably; his poor recovery, he was initially considered to be top tier character in the game's early meta due to the strength of his [[double jump cancel]] which gave him a powerful combo game as well as giving him excellent [[shield]] pressuring potential. Likely as a result of this, Ness received a mix of buffs and nerfs in his transition from ''Smash 64'' to ''Melee'' but was ultimately [[nerf]]ed overall.
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| Ness received a number of helpful buffs; his range was increased as a whole to help alleviate one of his main flaws from the previous game. This can most notably be seen with his altered dash attack and forward aerial which have now become disjointed multi hitting moves. The former has become a decent combo starter and an edgeguarding tool while the latter in particular has now become a solid spacing move with good combo potential (something he sorely lacked in the previous game). | | Assuming he can approach his opponents, Ness suffers from heavy KOing problems. He possesses arguably the worst set of smashes in the game; none of his smashes are especially powerful (particularily his up and down smashes which can't KO even at 430-500%), and not even his forward smash (unless it is tipped), as it is among the weakest when untipped, not KOing until at least 150%. Also, his back and up air not only suffer from very poor range, but the latter KO's at very high percents compared to his other finishers, only KOing at around 130% near the top blast line and even higher the farther he is from the top blast line. His back throw is his most powerful finisher, but his terrible grab range often keeps him from using it, especially against characters like {{SSBM|Marth}}. Finally, his PK Flash and PK Thunder 2 are extremely situational and will very rarely be used to outright KO someone. |
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| Ness' mobility has been drastically improved, possessing a much faster dashing speed and air speed, making it much easier for him to approach, run away and chase opponents. Ness also benefits from the introduction of [[air dodging]] for two reasons; it gives him a much needed additional recovery and it gives him access to [[wavedash]]ing. Ness overall has a solid wavedash due to his average traction and short jumpsquat giving him a useful movement option. Ness overall has a better recovery outside of [[PK Thunder]] due to his aforementioned increased air speed and ability to air dodge meaning that Ness does not have to rely on PK Thunder to recover as much. | | Outside of his poor approach, Ness also suffers from an abysmal recovery. Ness's recovery has its merits; he has the second highest midair jump in the game (second to only Yoshi) and his midair jump has unusual properties in its trajectory; PK Thunder 2 also grants a rather long distance, with a moderately large sweetspot and a long period of invincibility frames. Despite these benefits, however, Ness's recovery still is exceedingly vulnerable to gimping, in spite of its long length. If Ness uses an aerial to fend off edgeguarders, his double jump is cancelled and can prevent him from recovering if unable to act soon enough. PK Thunder's projectile instantly disappears upon hitting opponents, and this is very easily abusable by edgeguarders, further worsened by PK Thunder 2's slow startup. In the process of having to start PK Thunder 2, characters with good recoveries (such as {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} or {{SSBM|Samus}}) can merely jump into the projectile and take minor knockback and damage, immediately sending Ness into a state of [[helplessness]] (however, this is extremely risky, as if they miss, they will be hit by PK Thunder 2, which K.O.s at 90% in most cases). Projectiles such as {{SSBM|Link}}'s Boomerangs and the {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}' [[Ice Shot]] can easily disrupt the projectile as well, and in these cases, damage is not even inflicted to the opponent. PK Thunder 2 also has extremely drastic angling issues, and it can easily curve under lips of stages, most notably on {{SSBM|Battlefield}}. Additionally, should Ness end up parallel to the ground while using the attack, the ending lag can easily be abused and [[punish]]ed. Finally, its linear nature can make it easy to read and edgeguard for many characters, despite the invincibility frames found within it; attacks like Mario's [[Cape]] or Link's [[Spin Attack]] can easily intercept the attack as Ness charges to the stage. |
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| Ness is also significantly heavier which considerably improves his endurance along with his higher falling speed, though these factors also make him more vulnerable to combos. Ness has also gained a useful up throw and down throw with both throws being decent combo starters. Lastly, Ness now has access the Yo-yo glitch if he charges his up smash and releases it at the right time. When performed correctly, Ness has access to much greater range, as well as having hitboxes attached to him and new mindgames giving him a unique and unpredictable option.
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| | | In his transition from ''Smash 64'' to ''Melee'', Ness has been given one major buff: the addition of the Yo-yo glitch, which can drastically improve his otherwise poor range and ground approach, while also receiving other good buffs on his overall range. However, he has received drastic nerfs in other much more important areas that reduced the effectiveness of his PK Fire and most notably, removed his most notable combo finisher in his down aerial, while making it an extremely unsafe move on the ground (unless the move is auto-cancelled), significantly impaired his already poor recovery and drastically reduced his KO power and options. Also, his outstanding combo game has both been buffed and nerfed: his forward aerial can now chain into itself and other aerials while his dash attack has many different follow-up options depending on where it hits, (while also having greatly increased range as mentionned previously), and he now has an up and down throw, giving him two good setup and combo throws. However, his down aerial's start-up lag has been drastically increased and as such, can't be comboed into anymore while now being easily punishable on the ground if not auto-cancelled. Finally, while the overall range in his attacks has increased, it still remains extremely poor in comparaison with the entire cast and thus, can still be easily and quickly overwhelmed when approaching opponents due to the barely increased range relative to the cast. As a result, Ness has a lower tier placing in ''Melee''; while already placing in the low tier of ''Smash 64'' despite the early ''Smash 64'' metagame viewing him as a top-tier, and Ness is still seen as nearly non-viable in tournaments. |
| However, Ness has received a much greater quantity of nerfs which along with universal changes, have drastically crippled him overall. Ness' damage output has been reduced which has also hindered the KO potential of many of his moves. Some moves such as up aerial, forward smash and back throw simply KO later than in the previous game while moves such as up smash, down smash, forward aerial and forward throw are now practically useless moves for KOing. This naturally hinders Ness' damage racking capabilities as well as his ability to close out stocks and as a result of these changes, Ness' ability to KO opponents has gone from being disproportionately high to rather low. | |
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| Ness' aerial game has also been considerably toned down both due to nerfs to his key aerials in the previous game as well as various universal changes. All of Ness' aerials have increased landing lag and (with the exception of neutral aerial) worse auto-cancel windows. Due to the weakening of [[L-canceling]], these changes do impact Ness hindering his aerial combo game when combined with the reduction of hitstun and the introduction of [[DI]] as well as making his aerials easier to punish. Ness is also one of the characters who was the most affected by the changes to [[shield]]s. With shields having more HP, taking less damage from attacks and with shieldstun being significantly lower; this combined with the aforementioned weakening of L-canceling has greatly hindered Ness' shield pressuring potential with his DJC, completely removing his ability to perform [[shield break combo]]s. Ness' own out of shield options are also worse due to his longer jumpsquat, slower grab and his slower down aerial.
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| Ness' down aerial in particular has seen rather drastic nerfs. Previously, it was an extremely fast and powerful meteor smash which was a good combo starter as well as an excellent combo ender, edgeguarding tool and shield pressuring tool. In ''Melee'', the move has about 5x as much startup lag and 3x as much ending lag and the move no longer auto-cancels while its hitboxes are out now having decently high landing lag (although it still has one of the most lenient auto-cancel windows in the game). Being a [[meteor smash]], it also suffers from the addition of meteor cancelling making it significantly easier to survive against despite its much higher base knockback. When combined with the aforementioned changes to shields and L-canceling, this removes most of its KO potential and completely removes its use in shield break combos and DJC combos in general, significantly hurting its damage racking ability.
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| Despite already being an exploitable recovery move, PK Thunder has been made much worse. PK Thunder itself travels faster but has received angling issues due to this change and Ness can no longer auto-snap the ledge while using it making it completely useless to use at the ledge if Ness does not hit himself. PK Thunder 2 travels a much shorter distance and has increased ending lag making it even easier to exploit than it already was. PK Thunder 2 is also much weaker as a KO move and has received a weaker late hit reducing its utility outside of recovering. This makes Ness' recovery arguably the worst in the game.
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| Lastly, Ness' weaknesses from the previous game were not properly addressed. While the range in some of his attacks has increased, his range is still among the absolute shortest in the game and his mobility is still mediocre even though its not quite as poor as it previous was. As a result, Ness still has a difficult time approaching opponents and winning the neutral as he can still easily be outspaced. His recovery also is now among the absolute worst as while he has better aerial mobility and he can airdodge to avoid having to use PK Thunder, PK Thunder retains all of the issues it had in the previous game and has even become a considerably worse move/recovery option overall.
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| Overall, Ness still retains the weaknesses he had in the previous game while the strengths he had were either toned down or removed. As a result of these changes, Ness is one of the most severely nerfed characters and he remains one of the worst characters in the game.
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| ===Aesthetics=== | | ===Aesthetics=== |
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| *{{change|Ness's cap is turned right.}} | | *{{change|Ness's cap is turned right.}} |
| *{{change|Ness's backpack is two strapped.}} | | *{{change|Ness's backpack is two strapped.}} |
| *{{change|Ness now has a blue hue in his eyes.}}
| | *{{change|Ness's default costume have been slightly changed (red cap has blue instead of purple, beige and blue striped shirt and blue shorts instead of yellow/purple and purple, blue cap has purple instead of violet, tan and purple striped shirt and purple shorts instead of yellow/violet and violet, and orange and brown striped shirt and green shorts instead of light green/orange and orange like Mario's team battle costume.)}} |
| *{{change|Ness's default costume have been slightly changed (red cap has blue instead of purple, beige and blue striped shirt and blue shorts instead of yellow/purple and purple, blue cap has purple instead of violet, tan and purple striped shirt and purple shorts instead of yellow/violet and violet, and green cap has orange and brown striped shirt and green shorts instead of light green/orange and orange like Mario's team battle costume.)}} | |
| *{{change|Ness now faces the screen if he uses his [[taunt]] while facing left. It also has a new voice clip.}}
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| *{{change|Ness now consistently smiles instead of only doing it during his taunt and victory poses.}}
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| ===Attributes=== | | ===Attributes=== |
| *{{buff|Ness [[walk]]s faster (0.7467 (22.4) → 0.84), no longer being the slowest.}} | | *{{change|Ness is significantly heavier (81.818 → 94), which improves his endurance, but makes him easier to combo.}} |
| *{{buff|Ness [[dash]]es significantly faster (1.067 (32) → 1.4), no longer being the slowest.}}
| | *{{buff|Air speed (28 → 0.93) and dashing speed (40 → 1.4) were greatly improved.}} |
| **{{nerf|However, Ness' initial dash is drastically slower (2.267 (68) → 1.3) and covers less distance.}}
| | *{{nerf|Ness's walking speed is slightly slower (0.28 → 0.84).}} |
| *{{nerf|Ness' [[traction]] is slightly lower (0.0667 (2) → 0.06). Compared with the returning veterans, however, his traction is significantly lower, making it harder for him to punish [[out of shield]].}}
| | *{{nerf|Ness is significantly [[Falling speed|floatier]] (55 → 1.83), hindering his vertical endurance. While this makes him harder to combo, the falling speed change is enough for this to be considered a nerf.}} |
| *{{nerf|Ness' [[jumpsquat]] is longer (3 frames → 4).}}
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| *{{buff|Ness' [[air speed]] has been unchanged (0.933 (28) → 0.93). Compared with the returning veterans, however, his air speed is faster, going from the 2nd (JPN/NA) / 4th (AUS) / 3rd (EUR) slowest out of 12 characters to the 11th fastest out of 26.}} | |
| *{{nerf|Ness' [[air acceleration]] is much lower (0.1067 (3.2) → 0.06).}}
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| *{{nerf|Ness [[jump]]s much lower (40.15 (1204.5) → 35.98).}}
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| **{{buff|Compared with the returning veterans, however, he jumps significantly higher, going from the 3rd lowest out of 12 characters to the 5th highest out of 26.}}
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| **{{change|Ness' [[short hop]] is drastically lower (23.5367 (706.1) → 13.26), improves his ability to hit opponents low on the ground with short hop aerials, as well as his ability to quickly land and continue aerial pressure, but also hinders his ability to [[auto-cancel]] his aerials.}}
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| *{{nerf|Ness' [[fast-fall]]ing speed is significantly slower (2.95 (88.5) → 2.2). The difference between his falling speed and fast falling speed is much lower (increase: 60.5% → 20.2%), which makes it more predictable when landing and gives him fewer options in the air.}} | |
| *{{buff|Ness is drastically [[weight|heavier]] (81.818181 (1.1) → 94) which significantly improves his endurance.}} | |
| **{{nerf|However, this also makes him much more vulnerable to combos and makes him susceptible to {{SSBM|Fox}}'s waveshine combos.}}
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| *{{buff|The introduction of [[air dodging]] benefits Ness as it gives him a much needed additional recovery option as well as an additional movement option in the form of [[wavedash]]ing.}}
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| *[[Neutral attack]]:
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| **{{buff|Neutral attack's first hit deals more damage (2% → 3%).}}
| | *{{buff|Down tilt is much faster and can now infinite.}} |
| **{{buff|Neutral attack transitions sooner into the later hits (frame 10 → 5 (hit 1), frame 8 → 6 (hit 2)).}}
| | *{{buff|Dash attack is now a multi-hitting move that does more damage and has significantly more range, combo potential and overall utility.}} |
| **{{buff|The third hit has increased base knockback (10 → 16).}}
| | *{{change|His dash attack has become psychokinetic.}} |
| **{{nerf|All three hits of neutral attack have more startup lag with the second and third hits also having a shorter duration (frames 2-3 (hit 1)/3-5 (hit 2)/6-11 (hit 3) → 3-4/4-5/7-10).}}
| | *{{buff|Forward smash now has longer reach and is faster. All hitboxes also deal much more damage.}} |
| **{{nerf|All three hits have more ending lag (FAF 18 (hit 1)/20 (hit 2)/ 25 (frame 3) → 20/21/31).}}
| | *{{nerf|Forward smash's tipper hitbox is much weaker, KOing around 18% later, and it now has 3 drastically weaker sourspots on the base of his bat that can't KO until 150%.}} |
| **{{nerf|Ness can no longer cancel the first hit into grab.}}
| | *{{buff|Ness now has access to the Yo-yo glitch.}} |
| *[[Forward tilt]]:
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| **{{buff|Forward tilt deals more damage (9%/10%/11% → 10%/11%/12%) and has increased base knockback (10 → 12).}}
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| **{{buff|Up tilt has less ending lag (FAF 35 → 32).}}
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| **{{change|Up tilt's angle has been altered (100° → 96°).}}
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| **{{change|Up tilt deals more knockback (80 (base), 40 (scaling) → 42/126).}}
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| ***{{buff|This improves its KO potential (though it still cannot reliably KO).}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, this along with the reduction of [[hitstun]] and the introduction of [[DI]] significantly hinders its combo potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|Up tilt has a much shorter duration (frames 5-19 → 5-9) hindering its use as an anti air and giving it more cooldown.}}
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| **{{nerf|Ness's head has less [[intangibility]] (frames 5-19 → 5-6) further hindering up tilt's use as an anti-air.}}
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| **{{buff|Down tilt has less startup lag (frame 4 → 3) and Ness can perform another down tilt sooner (frame 11 → 8).}}
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| **{{change|Down tilt deals more knockback (2 (base), 20 (scaling) → 4/50).}}
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| ***{{buff|This make it safer on hit and chain into itself more reliably at lower percents.}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, this makes it chain into itself less reliably at higher percents.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down tilt has a shorter duration (frames 4-8 → 3-5).}}
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| **{{change|Dash attack is now a multi-hitting move where Ness produces three PSI rings in front of him.}}
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| **{{buff|Dash attack deals slightly more damage if all hits connect (12% (clean)/9% (late) → 5% (hit 1)/4% (hits 2 & 3)/12.28% (total)) and has significantly more range and overall utility.}}
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| **{{change|The final hit of dash attack has higher base knockback (16 → 70) and launches opponents vertically (361° → 100°) improving its combo potential but hindering its KO and edgeguarding potential when combined with its lower damage.}}
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| **{{nerf|Dash attack has a shorter duration (frames 8-11 (clean)/12-25 (late) → 8/15/22) and each hit has high base knockback making it extremely difficult to connect properly.}}
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| **{{nerf|Dash attack has more ending lag (FAF 38 → 40).}}
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| *[[Forward smash]]:
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| **{{buff|Forward smash has increased horizontal range.}}
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| **{{buff|Forward smash has less startup lag (frame 18 → 16).}}
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| **{{buff|Forward smash no longer deals consistent damage with the tipper of the bat being the strongest (18% → 18%/20%/22%/24%).}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward smash deals less knockback (70 (base), 65 (scaling) → 50/62) drastically hindering the sourspots' KO potential at high percentages.}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward smash has a shorter duration (frames 18-21 → 16-17), increasing its ending lag.}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward smash's reflector has a shorter duration (frames 16-21 → 16-17).}}
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| **{{nerf|Ness's bat will now clash with projectiles if it hits them, making forward smash much less reliable as a reflector.}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward smash has a reduced reflection multiplier (1.8x → 1.5x) much like its Japanese ''Smash 64'' counterpart.}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward smash's reflector can now only deal up to 50% damage and the reflector will break if Ness reflects a projectile which deals over 50% (much like Fox's).}}
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| *[[Up smash]]:
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| **{{buff|Up smash has less startup lag with a longer duration (frames 13-25 → 12-31).}}
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| **{{buff|Ness can use up smash to perform the [[Yo-yo glitch]] improving its utility.}}
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| **{{change|Up smash no longer has a mid hit.}}
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| **{{buff|The late hit launches opponents at a slightly higher angle compared to the previous mid hit (78° → 80°).}}
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| **{{nerf|Up smash has less range.}}
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| **{{nerf|The clean hit has a shorter duration (frames 13-17 → 12-14).}}
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| **{{nerf|The clean hit no longer launches opponents towards Ness (110° → 70°).}}
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| **{{nerf|Up smash deals significantly less damage (17% → 9% (clean), 15%/13% → 6% (late)). The clean hit's knockback was not fully compensated (20 (base), 100 (scaling) → 80/80) while the late hit deals less knockback (0 (base), 100 (scaling) → 60/45) completely removing its KOing capabilities and making it completely useless and unsafe.}}
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| **{{nerf|Up smash has more ending lag (FAF 40 → 49).}}
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| *[[Down smash]]:
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| **{{buff|Down smash has less startup lag (frame 13 → 12).}}
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| **{{change|Down smash now launches opponents vertically (361° → 70°).}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash has less range.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash has a much shorter duration (frames 13-52 → 12 (clean), 13-31 (late)) and now has a drastically weaker late hit.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash deals drastically less damage (19% → 11%/7%) and its knockback was not fully compensated (0 (base), 100 (scaling) → 70/80 (clean), 70/60 (late)) completely removing its KO potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash has more ending lag (FAF 55 → 59).}}
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| ===Aerial Attacks=== | | ===Aerial Attacks=== |
| *{{nerf|All aerials have increased landing lag (14 frames → 22 (neutral), 16 frames → 18 (forward), 15 frames → 18 (back), 4/8 frames → 18 (up), 4/8 frames → 28 (down)).}} | | *{{nerf|Ness has a new neutral aerial: a spin. It deals 3% less damage on both hitboxes.}} |
| *{{nerf|All aerials except neutral aerial [[auto-cancel]] later (frame 27 → 30 (forward), frame 20 → 25 (back), frame 1 → 27 (up), frame 1 → 29 (down)).}}
| | *{{buff|Forward aerial does more damage, has more range and has much better combo potential as it can now chain into itself or other aerials from low to K.O. percents.}} |
| *{{nerf|The weakening of [[L-canceling]] has hindered Ness's combo game with landing aerials as well as their safety with the increasing landing lag and worse auto-cancel windows on his aerials only further exacerbating this.}}
| | *{{change|His back and forward aerial have become psychokinetic.}} |
| **{{nerf|This combined with the changes to [[shield]]s has severely harmed Ness's shield pressuring potential; making his aerials much less safe against shield and completely removing his ability to perform [[shield break combo]]s.}}
| | *{{buff|Up aerial has more reach with a bigger hitbox.}} |
| *[[Neutral aerial]]:
| | *{{nerf|Ness's head when doing his up aerial is no longer intangible.}} |
| **{{change|Ness has a new neutral aerial: a spin with his arms outward.}}
| | *{{buff|Down aerial has much higher base knockback, making it a deadly 0-death KO tool if not meteor-canceled.}} |
| **{{buff|Neutral aerial has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 36).}}
| | *{{nerf|Ness's down aerial deals 3% less damage, no longer deals extra shield damage and like most other meteor smashes, now has significantly more start-up lag. Unlike with most other meteor smashes, however, it has affected Ness far more than any other veteran, as his down aerial was a very potent combo finisher and could be used in shield break combos (due to its almost non-existent start-up and due to it doing extra shield damage in ''Smash 64''). Because of this, the drastically increased start-up lag has completely removed its comboing capabilities and can't be used in shield break combos anymore, while making it a dangerously unsafe and difficult to land move if used on the ground, making it near useless on the ground.}} |
| **{{buff|Neutral aerial auto-cancels earlier (frame 40 → 27).}}
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| **{{nerf|Neutral aerial deals less damage (14% → 11% (clean), 11% → 8% (late)) hindering its KO potential.}}
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| ***{{buff|However this combined with Ness's superior aerial mobility improves its combo potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|Neutral aerial has a shorter duration (frames 5-39 → 5-23).}}
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| **{{nerf|Neutral aerial has less range and is less safe due to Ness's head being farther in front than the move's hitboxes.}}
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| *[[Forward aerial]]:
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| **{{change|Forward aerial has been altered: Ness now produces five PSI rings in front of him with the move being a multi hit.}}
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| **{{buff|Forward aerial has less startup (frame 10 → 8) and ending lag (FAF 42 → 40).}}
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| **{{buff|Forward aerial deals more damage if all hits connect (12% (clean)/10% (late) → 3%/2% (hits 1-4)/5% (hit 5)/15.74% (total)).}}
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| **{{buff|Forward aerial has considerably more range.}}
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| **{{buff|Forward has much better combo potential due to its multi-hit properties as it can now chain into itself or other aerials.}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward aerial is less reliable due to being a multi-hit.}}
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| **{{nerf|The knockback on the final hit was not fully compensated (16 (base), 100 (scaling) → 24/135) hindering forward aerial's KO potential.}}
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| *[[Back aerial]]:
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| **{{buff|Back aerial has less ending lag (FAF 40 → 36).}}
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| **{{buff|The sweetspot has increased base knockback (10 → 16).}}
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| **{{nerf|The animation makes it so Ness's body no longer shrinks as much during Back aerial's startup lag and does not extend as far, giving it less range and hindering its safety.}}
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| **{{nerf|The sweetspot has a shorter duration (frames 10-13 → 10-11) with the late hit's duration being compensated (frames 14-19 → 12-19).}}
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| **{{nerf|The sweetspot now has an electric effect, giving it more hitlag (1x → 1.5x) and making it easier to DI.}}
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| *[[Up aerial]]:
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| **{{nerf|Ness's head is no longer intangible while performing up aerial.}}
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| **{{nerf|Up aerial deals less damage (15% → 13%) and its knockback was not fully compensated (10 (base), 110 (scaling) → 13/109).}}
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| **{{nerf|Up aerial has a shorter duration (frames 8-16 → 8-11).}}
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| **{{nerf|Up aerial no longer auto-cancels for its entire duration, now having 18 frames of landing lag (9 if L-cancelled).}}
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| *[[Down aerial]]:
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| **{{buff|Down aerial has much higher base knockback (10/0 → 90), improving its edgeguarding potential at lower percents.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down aerial has drastically increased start-up lag with a shorter duration (frames 4-20 → 20-28).}}
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| **{{nerf|Down aerial has twice the amount of ending lag (FAF 30 → 60) no longer being possible to perform twice in a short hop or even out of a full height double jump.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down aerial deals 3% less damage (15% → 12%) and has much lower knockback scaling (120 → 70), weakening the meteor smash's power at high percents and removing its KO potential on-stage..}}
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| **{{nerf|Down aerial no longer auto-cancels while the hitbox is out, now having 28 frames of landing lag (14 if L-cancelled).}}
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| **{{nerf|The addition of [[meteor canceling]], when combined with down aerial's new angle (-90° → 280°) allows it to be meteor cancelled.}}
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| ***{{nerf|Altogether, these changes drastically worsens the move's utility and reliability, hindering its use in combos and in shield pressure while being much more unreliable as a KO move.}}
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| ===Throws/other attacks=== | | ===Grabs and Throws=== |
| *[[Grab]]s:
| | *{{nerf|[[Forward throw|Forward]] and [[back throw]] deal 5% less damage: 16% → 11%.}} |
| **{{buff|Ness has been given an [[pummel]], [[up throw]], and a [[down throw]], improving his grab's utility. Both of these new throws can be used as combo starters.}}
| | *{{buff|Ness has been given an [[up throw]] and a [[down throw]], providing him with more options.}} |
| **{{nerf|Ness's grabs have more startup lag (frame 6 → 8 (standing), 10 (dash)) and ending lag (FAF 16 → 31 (standing), 41 (dash)).}}
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| *[[Forward throw]]:
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| **{{nerf|Forward throw deals less damage (16% → 11%) and while it has increased base knockback (90 → 120), it also has drastically lower knockback scaling (70 → 10) completely removing its KO potential (no longer being the strongest forward throw).}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward throw has more ending lag (FAF 45 → 53).}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward throw no longer has a collateral hit which can hit bystanders.}}
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| *[[Back throw]]:
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| **{{nerf|Back throw deals less damage (16% → 11%) and its knockback was not fully compensated (90 (base), 70 (scaling) → 15/130), hindering its KO potential although it still remains one of the most powerful throws in the game.}}
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| **{{nerf|Back throw has more ending lag (FAF 45 → 53).}}
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| **{{nerf|Back throw no longer has a collateral hit which can hit bystanders.}}
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| ===Special Moves=== | | ===Special Moves=== |
| *[[PK Flash]]:
| | *{{change|Ness now has a new neutral special: [[PK Flash]]. A chargeable green ball of light that increases in power and moves downward the longer the button is held. Once it reaches full power, it explodes, dealing huge knockback.}} |
| **{{change|Ness now has a new neutral special: PK Flash. A chargeable green ball of light that increases in power and moves downward the longer the button is held. Once it reaches full power, it explodes, dealing huge knockback. It grants Ness a new powerful KO and edgeguarding option, although the move is ineffective due to its extremely poor speed and how vulnerable it leaves Ness when he uses it.}}
| | *{{nerf|PK Fire travels a smaller distance, and it is now considerably easier to SDI out of.}} |
| *[[PK Fire]]:
| | *{{change|PK Fire is moved to Ness's side special.}} |
| **{{change|As a result of PK Flash now being Ness's neutral special, PK Fire is now Ness's side special.}}
| | *{{nerf|Ness's PK Thunder 2 travels a shorter distance, damage when hitting an opponent is 5% less, is much weaker (now KOing in the 90% range), now has a drastically weaker late hitbox which deals 5% less damage than the normal hitbox and can't KO until roughly 135%, and has a lot more ending and landing lag, now having around 120 frames (or at least 2 seconds) of lag if he uses PK Thunder 2 on the ground or if he lands while in the middle of the animation of PK Thunder 2. As such, despite the PK Thunder moves faster, Ness's recovery is considered to be much worse overall.}} |
| **{{buff|PK Fire has less ending lag (FAF 72 → 70).}}
| | *{{buff|PSI Magnet is considerably faster, improving Ness's defensive game.}} |
| **{{buff|PK Fire pillar's duration is slightly longer (frame 98 -> 100).}}
| | *{{change|The color of PSI Magnet is now blue instead of green.}} |
| **{{buff|PK Fire pillar's hitboxes are larger and no longer shrink as its lifetime decreases.}}
| | *{{change|The crowd no longer cheers when Ness absorbs a projectile with PSI Magnet.}} |
| **{{buff|PK Fire spark is less likely to knock opponents away from the pillar at higher percents.}}
| | *{{change|The crowd no longer gasps when Ness hits himself with PK Thunder.}} |
| **{{buff|PK Fire spark travels farther.}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Fire spark disappears one frame early if summoned over even ground.}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Fire spark has a smaller hitbox and now relies on the assistance of a hurtbox to activate the fire pillar.}}
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| ***{{nerf|Its reliance on the hurtbox makes it possible for attackers to hit the projectile, causing it to undergo 16 frames of hit cooldown; it also doesn't go off if the opponent and the hurtbox do not interact.}}
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| ***{{buff|However, this also means that the PK Fire spark can absorb projectiles with transcendent priority.}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Fire deals less damage (4% (spark)/3% (pillar hits 1-7) → 2% (spark)/3% (pillar hit 1)/2% (pillar hits 2-7)), and it is now considerably easier to SDI out of.}}
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| *[[PK Thunder]]:
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| **{{buff|PK Thunder has less startup lag (frame 24 → 20).}}
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| **{{buff|PK Thunder now auto-cancels once Ness enters free fall; drastically reducing its landing lag (42 frames → 4).}}
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| **{{buff|PK Thunder travels faster and deals 2% more damage (6% → 8%).}}
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| **{{buff|PK Thunder now has transcendent priority.}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Thunder has a shorter duration (frames 24-182 → 20-138).}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Thunder has more ending lag once it disappears (FAF 46 → 55).}}
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| **{{nerf|Ness will no longer auto-snap the ledge when using PK Thunder near a ledge.}}
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| **{{nerf|Ness will not auto-snap the ledge after PK Thunder despawns until he has performed an aerial somersault.}}
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| ***{{nerf|Altogether, these changes make it much riskier to use PK Thunder near the ledge.}}
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| **{{buff|PK Thunder 2 has a longer duration (frames 1-18 → 1-36).}}
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| **{{change|PK Thunder 2 now grants Ness intangibility rather than [[invincibility]].}}
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| **{{change|The crowd no longer gasps when Ness hits himself with PK Thunder.}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 travels a much shorter distance.}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 deals less damage when hitting an opponent (30% → 25%) and knockback (40 (base), 84 (scaling) → 60/70) significantly hindering its KO potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 now has a drastically weaker late hitbox that deals less damage (30% → 20%) and knockback (40 (base), 84 (scaling) → 45/65).}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Thunder 2's clean hit has a shorter duration (frames 1-18 → 1-10).}}
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| **{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 has much more ending lag (FAF 44 → 100 (ground)/70 (air)) especially if Ness ends PK Thunder 2 on the ground or if he lands while in the middle of the animation of PK Thunder 2 and before he transitions into free fall.}}
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| *[[PSI Magnet]]:
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| **{{change|Physic-Magnet has been renamed to PSI Magnet.}}
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| **{{buff|PSI Magnet has less startup lag (frame 15 → 11).}}
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| **{{change|The color of PSI Magnet is now blue instead of green.}}
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| **{{change|The crowd no longer cheers when Ness absorbs a projectile with PSI Magnet. The screen additionally no longer flashes when this occurs either.}}
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| **{{nerf|PSI Magnet has 10 frames extra frames of ending lag when Ness drops the magnet.}}
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| **{{nerf|PSI Magnet has more ending lag when Ness' absorbs a projectile (FAF 25 → 41).}}
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| **{{nerf|Ness can no longer auto-snap the ledge while using PSI Magnet.}}
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| ==Moveset== | | ==Moveset== |
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| |game=SSBM | | |game=SSBM |
| |neutralcount=3 | | |neutralcount=3 |
| |neutralname=Hook ({{ja|ジャブ|Jabu}}, ''Jab'') / Straight ({{ja|ストレート|Sutorēto}}) / Kick ({{ja|ミドルキック|Midoru Kikku}}, ''Middle Kick'') | | |neutralname= |
| |neutral1dmg=3% | | |neutral1dmg=3% |
| |neutral2dmg=2% | | |neutral2dmg=2% |
| |neutral3dmg=4% | | |neutral3dmg=4% |
| |neutraldesc=Punches forward twice, then kicks. | | |neutraldesc=Punches forward twice, then kicks. |
| |ftiltname=Short Kick ({{ja|ショートキック|Shōto Kikku}}) | | |ftiltname= |
| |ftiltangles=3 | | |ftiltangles=3 |
| |ftiltupdmg=12% | | |ftiltupdmg=12% |
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| |ftiltdowndmg=10% | | |ftiltdowndmg=10% |
| |ftiltdesc=Does a roundhouse kick forward. Can be angled up or down. | | |ftiltdesc=Does a roundhouse kick forward. Can be angled up or down. |
| |utiltname=Push Up ({{ja|トス|Tosu}}, ''Toss'') | | |utiltname= |
| |utiltdmg=7% | | |utiltdmg=7% |
| |utiltdesc=Thrusts both his hands upward. Ness's head is intangible during the early part of the animation. Can combo into itself and DJC'd up aerials. | | |utiltdesc=Thrusts both his hands upward. Ness's head is intangible during the early part of the animation. Can combo into itself and DJC'd up aerials. |
| |dtiltname=Squat Kick ({{ja|クラウチングキック|Kurauchingu Kikku}}, ''Crouching Kick'') | | |dtiltname= |
| |dtiltdmg=3% | | |dtiltdmg=3% |
| |dtiltdesc=Thrusts his leg downward, then pivots his foot to hit the opponent. Can combo into itself by mashing the [[A button]] after the move is executed, and is an infinite against a wall. | | |dtiltdesc=Thrusts his leg downward, then pivots his foot to hit the opponent. Can combo into itself by mashing the [[A button]] after the move is executed, and is an infinite against a wall. |
| |dashname=PK Shove ({{ja|PKハンドスタンプ|Pīkei Hando Sutanpu}}, ''PK Hand Stamp'') | | |dashname= |
| |dashdmg=5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) (≈12.28% total) | | |dashdmg=5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3) (≈12.28% total) |
| |dashdesc=Throws his hands forward, sending three sparks PSI energy in front of himself. Good, disjointed range. 1st hit powerfully semi-spikes opponents, 2nd hit does very weak vertical knockback and the last hit deals powerful vertical knockback. | | |dashdesc=Throws his hands forward, sending three sparks PSI energy in front of himself. Good, disjointed range. 1st hit powerfully semi-spikes opponents, 2nd hit does very weak vertical knockback and the last hit deals powerful vertical knockback. |
| |fsmashname=Home Run Swing ({{ja|バットスイング|Batto Suingu}}, ''Bat Swing'') | | |fsmashname= |
| |fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|18}} (body), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|20}} (bat base), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|22}} (bat mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|24}} (bat tip) | | |fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|18}} (body), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|20}} (bat base), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|22}} (bat mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|24}} (bat tip) |
| |fsmashdesc=Swings his bat forward. Has high knockback and damage at the tip of the bat, but has very weak knockback for a smash attack when untipped and has a little bit of start-up lag. There is a hitbox around Ness which can [[reflect]] projectiles, but it is only out for 2 frames, so it's near-impossible to use reliably. | | |fsmashdesc=Swings his bat forward. Has high knockback and damage at the tip of the bat, but has very weak knockback for a smash attack when untipped and has a little bit of start-up lag. The bat can [[reflect]] projectiles. |
| |usmashname=Around the World ({{ja|シャトルループ|Shatoru Rūpu}}, ''Shuttle Loop'') | | |usmashname= |
| |usmashdmg=9% (startup), 4% (charging), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|6}} (attack) | | |usmashdmg=9% (startup), 4% (charging), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|6}} (attack) |
| |usmashdesc=Does a variation on the "around-the-world" yo-yo trick, swinging his yo-yo above his head. Has good range and speed. Used to perform the extremely powerful [[Yo-yo Glitch]], but has little utility otherwise. Like his down smash, this attack is incapable of KOing unless his opponent is over 200%, and the swinging part even has almost non-existent knockback not KOing until at least 500%, though this allows it to act an unorthodox combo-starter at mid to high percents. The attack has a hitbox while charging and can hang over ledges if spaced correctly, allowing for potential edgeguard situations. If Ness is too close to the ledge, however, and facing said ledge, he cannot charge the move. | | |usmashdesc=Does a variation on the "around-the-world" yo-yo trick, swinging his yo-yo above his head. Has good range and speed. Used to perform the extremely powerful [[Yo-yo Glitch]], but doesn't have any utility outside of it. Like his down smash, this attack is incapable of K.O.ing unless his opponent is over 200%, and the swinging part even has almost non-existent knockback not K.O.ing until at least 500%. The attack has a hitbox while charging. |
| |dsmashname=Walk the Dog ({{ja|ヨーヨーショット|Yōyō Shotto}}, ''Yo-Yo Shot'') | | |dsmashname= |
| |dsmashdmg=11% (startup), 4% (charging), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|7}} (attack) | | |dsmashdmg=11% (startup), 4% (charging), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|7}} (attack) |
| |dsmashdesc=Sends his yo-yo backwards and "walks-the-dog" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. Has good range and speed, however, this attack is incapable of KOing unless his opponent is over 180%. More powerful than the up smash in terms of knockback, but still extremely weak. The attack has a hitbox while charging. The swinging part of the attack has barely any base knockback and can't KO until the 430% range. Overall less utility than up-smash due to the Yo-yo starting out behind Ness. If Ness is too close to the ledge, and facing away from it, he cannot charge the move. | | |dsmashdesc=Sends his yo-yo backwards and "walks-the-dog" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. Has good range and speed, however, this attack is incapable of K.O.ing unless his opponent is over 180%. It is completely useless. More powerful than the up smash in terms of knockback, but still extremely weak. The attack has a hitbox while charging. The swinging part of the attack has barely any base knockback and can't K.O. until the 430% range. |
| |nairname=Ness Spin ({{ja|ネススピン|Nesu Supin}}) | | |nairname= |
| |nairdmg=11% (clean), 8% (late) | | |nairdmg=11% (clean), 8% (late) |
| |nairdesc=Spins around, arms stretched out. Has good knockback and is very fast with high combo potential. Poor range. | | |nairdesc=Spins around, arms stretched out. Has good knockback and is very fast with high combo potential. Poor range. |
| |fairname=Flying PK Shove ({{ja|空中PKハンドスタンプ|Kūchū Pīkei Hando Sutanpu}}, ''Aerial PK Hand Stamp'') | | |fairname= |
| |fairdmg=3% (hits 1-4), 5% (hit 5) (≈15.74% total) | | |fairdmg=3% (hits 1-4), 5% (hit 5) (≈15.74% total) |
| |fairdesc=Throws both his hands forward, sending multiple sparks PSI energy in front of himself. Is a fast, multi-hitting move, with good range and high knockback on the last hit KOing under 130% off-stage. Generally used as a [[spacing]] move and can chain into itself several times at low to high percents. | | |fairdesc=Throws both his hands forward, sending multiple sparks PSI energy in front of himself. Is a fast, multi-hitting move, with good range and high knockback on the last hit K.O.ing under 130% off-stage. Generally used as a [[spacing]] move and can chain into itself several times at low to high percents. |
| |bairname=PK Drop Kick ({{ja|PKドロップキック|Pīkei Doroppu Kikku}}) | | |bairname= |
| |bairdmg=16% (clean), 10% (late) | | |bairdmg=16% (clean), 10% (late) |
| |bairdesc=Thrusts both his feet backwards. If sweetspotted, it electrifies the opponent, dealing massive damage. Is fast with very high knockback albeit somewhat poor range. Can shield poke if fastfalled out of a DJC. The fourth most powerful back aerial in the game, beaten by {{SSBM|Zelda}}, {{SSBM|Ganondorf}}, and {{SSBM|Samus}}. | | |bairdesc=Thrusts both his feet backwards. If sweetspotted, it electrifies the opponent and [[semi-spike]]s them with extreme power. Is fast with very high knockback albeit poor range. The fourth most powerful back aerial in ''Melee''. |
| |uairname=Jumping Headbutt ({{ja|ジャンピングヘッドバット|Janpingu Heddobatto}}) | | |uairname= |
| |uairdmg=13% | | |uairdmg=13% |
| |uairdesc=Headbutts upward. Has amazing juggling potential when DJC'd and a good KO move with very low lag, but poor range. Unlike in ''Smash 64'', Ness's head is no longer intangible. | | |uairdesc=Headbutts upward. Has amazing juggling potential when DJC'd and a good KO move with very low lag, but poor range. Unlike in ''Smash 64'', Ness`s head is no longer intangible. |
| |dairname=Meteor Kick ({{ja|ニードルキック|Nīdoru Kikku}}, ''Needle Kick'') | | |dairname= |
| |dairdmg=12% | | |dairdmg=12% |
| |dairdesc=Pulls his legs to his body before stomping downwards. Is a [[meteor smash]], and has a decent amount of start-up lag. Great range, extremely high knockback at 0% (most powerful meteor smash at 0% in ''Melee''), but it also has very low knockback scaling, being unable to KO grounded opponents at even 200%, and is relatively easy to meteor cancel. It also has no IASA frames (being interrupted on the same frame as Mario's forward aerial, but Mario's seem slower compared to Ness's). | | |dairdesc=Pulls his legs to his body before stomping downwards. Is a [[meteor smash]], and has a decent amount of start-up lag. Great range, extremely high knockback at 0% (most powerful meteor smash at 0% in ''Melee''), but it also has very low knockback scaling, being unable to KO grounded opponents at even 200%, and is relatively easy to meteor cancel. It also has no IASA frames (being interrupted on the same frame as Mario's forward aerial, but Mario's seem slower compared to Ness's). |
| |grabname=Grab ({{ja|つかみ|Tsukami}}) | | |grabname= |
| |grabdesc= | | |grabdesc= |
| |pummelname=Captive Headbutt ({{ja|つかみヘッドバット|Tsukami Heddobatto}}, ''Grab Headbutt'') | | |pummelname= |
| |pummeldmg=3% | | |pummeldmg=3% |
| |pummeldesc=Headbutts the opponent. | | |pummeldesc=Headbutts the opponent. |
| |fthrowname=PK Throw ({{ja|PKスルー|Pīkei Surū}}) | | |fthrowname= |
| |fthrowdmg=11% | | |fthrowdmg=11% |
| |fthrowdesc=Psychically throws the opponent forward. Very strong base knockback, but very low knockback scaling. | | |fthrowdesc=Psychically throws the opponent forward. Very strong base knockback, but very low knockback scaling. |
| |bthrowname=Reverse PK Throw ({{ja|リバースPKスルー|Ribāsu Pīkei Surū}}) | | |bthrowname= |
| |bthrowdmg=11% | | |bthrowdmg=11% |
| |bthrowdesc=Psychically throws the opponent behind him. Has extremely low base knockback but very high knockback scaling. This is Ness's strongest throw and the second strongest throw in the game (second to {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}'s up throw), KOing reliably at 130% and above. | | |bthrowdesc=Psychically throws the opponent behind him. Has extremely low base knockback but very high knockback scaling. This is Ness's strongest throw and and by far te strongest throw in the game, KOing reliably at 90% and above. |
| |uthrowname=Cowboy PK Throw ({{ja|カウボーイPKスルー|Kaubōi Pīkei Surū}}) | | |uthrowname= |
| |uthrowdmg=10% | | |uthrowdmg=10% |
| |uthrowdesc=Psychically spins the opponent above his head and throws them upwards. Can chaingrab {{SSBM|Fox}}, {{SSBM|Falco}} and {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} at low % and has a decent amount of followups. Good knockback. | | |uthrowdesc=Psychically spins the opponent above his head and throws them upwards. Can chaingrab [[Fox]], [[Falco]] and [[Captain Falcon]] at low % and has a decent amount of followups. Good knockback. |
| |dthrowname=PK Inferno ({{ja|ラピッドPKファイヤー|Rapiddo Pīkei Faiyā}}, ''Rapid PK Fire'') | | |dthrowname= |
| |dthrowdmg=1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) | | |dthrowdmg=1% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) |
| |dthrowdesc=Slams the opponent to the ground and hits them with fire. Low knockback but allows a decent amount of followups, including being able to lead into an up aerial to KO. The fire hitboxes are fairly small (so small in fact that they flat out whiff against {{SSBM|Mr. Game & Watch}}). | | |dthrowdesc=Slams the opponent to the ground and hits them with fire. Low knockback but allows a decent amount of followups, including being able to lead into an up aerial to KO. |
| |floorfname= | | |floorfname= |
| |floorfdmg=6% | | |floorfdmg=6% |
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| |nsdesc=A sphere of green light appears above Ness. As the attack button is held, the sphere moves downwards and increases in power and size, until the attack button is released or until it is fully charged, it explodes. Has [[Priority#Transcendent_priority|transcendent priority]]. | | |nsdesc=A sphere of green light appears above Ness. As the attack button is held, the sphere moves downwards and increases in power and size, until the attack button is released or until it is fully charged, it explodes. Has [[Priority#Transcendent_priority|transcendent priority]]. |
| |ssname=PK Fire | | |ssname=PK Fire |
| |ssdmg=2% (lightning), 3% (pillar hit 1), 2% (pillar hits 2-7) | | |ssdmg=2% (lightning), 3% (pillar hit 1), 2% (pillar 2-7) |
| |ssdesc=Fires a yellow, lightning-bolt shaped projectile that travels in a straight line until it hits an enemy or destructible portion of a stage, at which point it explodes into flames. The bolt has a [[hurtbox]], which is what activates the pillar upon contact; the surrounding [[hitbox]] deals 2% and little vertical knockback. The fire pillar also has a hurtbox which slowly shrinks in size and appears to have a windbox. | | |ssdesc=Fires a yellow, lightning-bolt shaped projectile that travels in a straight line until it hits an enemy or destructible portion of a stage, at which point it explodes into flames. The bolt has a [[hurtbox]], which is what activates the pillar upon contact; the surrounding [[hitbox]] deals 2% and has minor knockback. The spawned pillar also has a hurtbox that slowly shrinks in size. |
| |usname=PK Thunder | | |usname=PK Thunder |
| |usdmg=8% (thunder head), 1% (thunder tail), 25% (PK Thunder 2 clean), 20% (PK Thunder 2 late) | | |usdmg=8% (thunder head), 1% (thunder tail), 25% (PK Thunder 2 clean), 20% (PK Thunder 2 late) |
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| |dsdesc=Creates a blue energy field around him which allows him to absorb all energy-based projectiles. It can be held. | | |dsdesc=Creates a blue energy field around him which allows him to absorb all energy-based projectiles. It can be held. |
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| ===Stats===
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| '''NTSC'''
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| {{Attributes
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| |cast = 26
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| |weight = 94
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| |rweight = 11
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| |dash = 1.3
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| |rdash = 21-23
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| |run = 1.4
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| |rrun = 16-20
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| |walk = 0.84
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| |rwalk = 22
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| |trac = 0.06
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| |rtrac = 15-23
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| |airfric = 0.03
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| |rairfric = 3
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| |air = 0.93
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| |rair = 11
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| |baseaccel = 0.02
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| |rbaseaccel = 2-23
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| |addaccel = 0.04
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| |raddaccel = 5-11
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| |gravity = 0.09
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| |rgravity = 18
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| |fall = 1.83
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| |rfall = 15
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| |ff = 2.2
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| |rff = 19-20
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| |jumpsquat = 4
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| |rjumpsquat = 8-15
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| |jumpheight = 35.98
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| |rjumpheight = 5
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| |shorthop = 13.26
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| |rshorthop = 14
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| |djump = ?
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| |rdjump = ?
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| '''PAL'''
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| {{Attributes
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| |cast = 26
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| |weight = 94
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| |rweight = 11
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| |dash = 1.3
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| |rdash = 21-23
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| |run = 1.4
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| |rrun = 16-20
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| |walk = 0.84
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| |rwalk = 22
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| |trac = 0.06
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| |rtrac = 15-23
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| |airfric = 0.03
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| |rairfric = 3
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| |air = 0.93
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| |rair = 10
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| |baseaccel = 0.02
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| |rbaseaccel = 2-23
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| |addaccel = 0.04
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| |raddaccel = 5-11
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| |gravity = 0.09
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| |rgravity = 18
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| |fall = 1.83
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| |rfall = 15
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| |ff = 2.2
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| |rff = 19-20
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| |jumpsquat = 4
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| |rjumpsquat = 8-15
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| |jumpheight = 35.98
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| |rjumpheight = 5
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| |shorthop = 13.26
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| |rshorthop = 14
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| |djump = ?
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| |rdjump = ?
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| ===[[Announcer]] call===
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| [[File: Ness Announcer SSBM.wav]]
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| |victory-theme=Ness Victory.ogg | | |victory-theme=Ness Victory.ogg |
| |victory-desc=An orchestrated version of the final four Soundstone Melodies from ''[[EarthBound (game)|EarthBound]]''. They also play in the game's credits, ''Smiles and Tears''. | | |victory-desc=An orchestrated version of the final four Soundstone Melodies from ''[[EarthBound (game)|EarthBound]]''. |
| |desc-1=Looks to the left and right of him, then places his right arm on the back of his head. | | |desc-1=Looks to the left and right of him, then places an arm on the back of his head in a bashful manner. |
| |desc-2=Swings around his bat four times, then poses with it. | | |desc-2=Swings around his bat four times, then poses with it. |
| |desc-3=Jumps up and down twice, places arms on waist, and says "Okay!" | | |desc-3=Jumps up and down twice, places arms on waist, and says "Okay!" |
| |char=Ness}} | | |char=Ness}} |
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| ==In [[competitive play]]== | | ==In [[Competitive play]]== |
| ===Most historically significant players=== | | ===[[Character matchups (SSBM)|Matchups]]=== |
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| :''See also: [[:Category:Ness players (SSBM)]]'' | | ===Notable players=== |
| | :''See also: [[:Category:Ness professionals (SSBM)]]'' |
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| *{{Sm|Simna ibn Sind|USA}} - Considered the best Ness player from 2006 to 2008, from 2015 to 2020, and of all time. He holds the best major results for Ness with 13th at {{Trn|EVO World 2007}} and 17th at {{Trn|Super Champ Combo}}. Mainly only attended {{Trn|EVO}} and [[GENESIS (tournament series)|GENESIS]] before his inactivity from competition. Simna ibn Sind is also known to be the person who discovered the [[Thunder Jacket]]. | | ====Active==== |
| *{{Sm|Mofo|USA}} - One of the most influential Ness mains known for discovering many [[glitch]]es such as the [[Star Jacket]], [[Spike Jacket]] and the [[yoyo stack glitch]]. Considered the best Ness in the world from 2009 to 2014 before retiring, has taken a set off {{Sm|Gravy}} and {{Sm|Captain Smuckers}}. | | *{{Sm|Hungrybox|USA}} |
| *{{Sm|JoeyBats|Canada}} - The current best Ness player in the world, gaining notoriety during online tournaments through [[Slippi]]. He boast the highest tournament placements and highest rates of tournament participation among Ness players in 2021 on [[Project Slippi]] netplay and offline placed 17th at the superregional {{Trn|Rise 'N Grind 2023}}. | | *{{Sm|Jim Jam Flim Flam|USA}} |
| | *{{Sm|Simna ibn Sind|USA}} |
| | *{{Sm|VRud|Canada}} |
| | *{{Sm|Nihlus|USA}} |
| | ====Inactive==== |
| | *{{Sm|Mofo|USA}} |
| | *{{Sm|Nessby|Japan}} |
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| ===Tier placement and history=== | | ===Tier placement and history=== |
| Ness was initially viewed as low-mid tier character in the metagame, with a peak of 15th place on the second tier list. While he originally not considered terrible, his strengths never outshined his weaknesses; as the metagame went on, his glaring issues in range, inconsistent KOing potential, and terrible recovery caused his competitive perception to tank. This is reflected following the third tier list, where he has consistently been ranked as a bottom tier. | | Ness was initially viewed as low-mid tier character in the metagame, with a peak of 15th place on the second tier list. Following this, however, Ness's standing on the tier list constantly fell down to the lower tiers, with most players noticing that his crippling [[nerf]]s from ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' severely impaired his KO moves and his already poor linear, predictable recovery; this was especially noted in the earlier ''Smash 64'' metagame, as Ness was initially viewed as a top-tiered character. |
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| On the current tier list, Ness places at 23rd, in the D tier, and he is widely considered non-viable for tournament play. Dedicated Ness players in high-level play are extremely rare in the current metagame, with most Ness players using him only as a situational counterpick. {{Sm|Hungrybox}} only used Ness once in all of {{Trn|Apex 2013}}, in an attempt to catch {{Sm|Armada}}'s {{SSBM|Young Link}} (which was developed specifically to fight Hungrybox) off-guard, and he mostly used {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} for the rest of the tournament. Other players of Ness are semi-active and generally do not place very well with him. | | On the current tier list, Ness places at 23rd, in the F tier, and he is considered almost non-viable for tournament play. Dedicated Ness players are rare in the current metagame, with most Ness players often using him as a situational counterpick; {{Sm|Hungrybox}} only used Ness once in all of [[Apex 2013]], in an attempt to counter {{Sm|Armada}}'s {{SSBM|Young Link}}, and he mostly used {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}} for the rest of the tournament. Other players of Ness are semi-active and generally do not place very well with him. |
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| ==In 1-P Mode== | | ==In [[Solo#1-P_Mode|1-P Mode]]== |
| ==={{SSBM|Classic Mode}}=== | | ==={{SSBM|Classic Mode}}=== |
| In Classic Mode, Ness can appear as an ordinary opponent, as an ally or opponent in the team battles, alongside {{SSBM|Yoshi}}, {{SSBM|Peach}}, or {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, as a member of a multi-character battle, or as a metal opponent. In Ness's appearance, he appears on either [[Onett]] or [[Fourside]] (if unlocked) as a regular opponent and on {{SSBM|Battlefield}} as a metal opponent. When on a team with Yoshi, he appears on {{SSBM|Yoshi's Island}}. | | In Classic Mode, Ness can appear as an ordinary opponent, as an ally or opponent in the team battles, alongside {{SSBM|Yoshi}}, {{SSBM|Peach}}, or {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, as a member of a multi-character battle, or as a metal opponent. In Ness's appearance, he appears on either [[Onett]] or [[Fourside]] (if unlocked) as a regular opponent and on {{SSBM|Battlefield}} as a metal opponent. When on a team with Yoshi, he appears on {{SSBM|Yoshi's Island}}. |
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| <center> | | <center> |
| <gallery> | | <gallery> |
| NessClassicMode.jpg|Classic Mode | | File:NessClassicMode.jpg|Classic Mode |
| NessAdventureMode.jpg|Adventure Mode | | File:NessAdventureMode.jpg|Adventure Mode |
| NessAllStarMode.jpg|All-Star Mode | | File:NessAllStarMode.jpg|All-Star Mode |
| </gallery> | | </gallery> |
| </center> | | </center> |
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| ==[[Trophies]]== | | ==Trophy descriptions== |
| In addition to the normal trophy about Ness as a character, there are two trophies about him as a fighter, unlocked by completing both [[Adventure Mode|Adventure]] and [[All-Star]] modes respectively with Ness on any difficulty: | | In addition to the normal trophy about Ness as a character, there are two trophies about him as a fighter, unlocked by completing both [[Adventure Mode|Adventure]] and [[All-Star]] modes respectively with Ness on any difficulty: |
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| {{Trophy/Fighter
| | :'''Ness''' |
| |name=Ness
| | :''Ness is a young boy who's mastered the psychic power known as PSI. Ness was living a normal life in the suburbs of Onett until a meteor crashed into a nearby mountain and sent him on a wild adventure. Believing in the ultimate powers of wisdom, courage, and friendship, Ness proves that some heroes come in small packages.'' |
| |image=Ness Trophy Melee.png
| | :*EarthBound 06/95 |
| |mode=Classic
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| |desc=Ness is a young boy who's mastered the psychic power known as PSI. Ness was living a normal life in the suburbs of Onett until a meteor crashed into a nearby mountain and sent him on a wild adventure. Believing in the ultimate powers of wisdom, courage, and friendship, Ness proves that some heroes come in small packages.
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| |gamelist-ntsc={{Trophy games|game1=EarthBound|release1=6/95}}
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| |gamelist-pal={{Trophy games|game1=EarthBound|release1=Not Released in Europe}}
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| |game=Melee
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| |name=Ness
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| |image=Ness Trophy (Smash).png
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| |mode=Adventure
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| |desc=The key to mastering Ness is controlling his unique midair jump, which makes up for what he lacks in speed. His PK Flash attack may seem weak at first glance, but it grows more powerful the longer you hold down the B Button. To do a lot of damage with PK Fire, try to burn your opponent as many times as possible.
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| |gamelist=:B: PK Flash
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| :Smash B: PK Fire
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| |game=Melee
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| {{Trophy/Fighter
| | :'''Ness''' [<span style="color:#FF0000">Smash</span>] |
| |name=Ness
| | :''The key to mastering Ness is controlling his unique midair jump, which makes up for what he lacks in speed. His PK Flash attack may seem weak at first glance, but it grows more powerful the longer you hold down the B Button. To do a lot of damage with PK Fire, try to burn your opponent as many times as possible.'' |
| |image=Ness Trophy (Smash) 2.png
| | :*B: PK Flash |
| |mode=All Star
| | :*Smash B: PK Fire |
| |desc=Ness's mind is his best weapon. PK Thunder is a PSI missile weapon that can be guided using the Control Stick, and if Ness hits himself with it, he turns into a living missile capable of doing massive damage. This move can also be used for recovery. PSI Magnet turns energy missile attacks into health; try out certain Pokémon for stamina replenishment.
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| |gamelist=:Up & B: PK Thunder
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| :Down & B: PSI Magnet | |
| |game=Melee
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| ==[[Alternate costume (SSBM)#Ness|Alternate costumes]]==
| | :'''Ness''' [<span style="color:#0000FF">Smash</span>] |
| {|style="margin:1em auto 1em auto;text-align:center"
| | :''Ness's mind is his best weapon. PK Thunder is a PSI missile weapon that can be guided using the Control Stick, and if Ness hits himself with it, he turns into a living missile capable of doing massive damage. This move can also be used for recovery. PSI Magnet turns energy missile attacks into health; try out certain Pokémon for stamina replenishment.'' |
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| | :*Up & B: PK Thunder |
| |colspan=4|[[File:Ness Palette (SSBM).png]]
| | :*Down & B: PSI Magnet |
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| |{{Head|Ness|g=SSBM|s=25px}}
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| |{{Head|Ness|g=SSBM|s=25px|cl=Yellow}}
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| |{{Head|Ness|g=SSBM|s=25px|cl=Blue}}
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| |{{Head|Ness|g=SSBM|s=25px|cl=Green}}
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| ==Gallery==
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| <center> | | <center> |
| <gallery> | | <gallery> |
| SSBM Ness HQ.jpg|Official artwork of Ness.
| | File:Ness Trophy Melee.png|Classic |
| PSIMagnetMelee.jpg|Using [[PSI Magnet]] on [[Brinstar]].
| | File:Ness Trophy (Smash).png|[<span style="color:#FF0000">Smash</span>] |
| SSBMWebsiteNess2.jpg|Using his [[down smash]] on [[Onett]].
| | File:Ness Trophy (Smash) 2.png|[<span style="color:#0000FF">Smash</span>] |
| PKFireMelee.jpg|Using [[PK Fire]] on {{SSBM|Link}} on Brinstar.
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| Nessbmove.jpg|Using [[PK Flash]] on {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} on Brinstar.
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| SSBMWebsiteNess5.jpg|[[Jump]]ing over The Runaway Five tour bus on Onett.
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| PKThunder2Melee.jpg|Using [[PK Thunder]] 2 on Brinstar.
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| LuigiAdventureMode.jpg|Standing with {{SSBM|Donkey Kong}}, {{SSBM|Kirby}}, and {{SSBM|Luigi}} on [[Great Bay]].
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| KirbyAdventureMode.jpg|Posing with Kirby on [[Temple]].
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| FoxAdventureMode.jpg|[[Taunt]]ing with Kirby and {{SSBM|Pikachu}} on Temple.
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| MewtwoAllStarMode.jpg|Using PSI Magnet near {{SSBM|Mewtwo}} on {{SSBM|Final Destination}}.
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| </gallery> | | </gallery> |
| </center> | | </center> |
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| | ==[[Alternate costume (SSBM)#Ness|Alternate costumes]]== |
| | [[File:Ness Palette (SSBM).png|frame|center|Ness's alternate costumes in ''Melee'']] |
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| ==Trivia== | | ==Trivia== |
| [[File:SSBM-Nessyoyo.png|thumb|The yoyo's texture.]] | | [[File:SSBM-Nessyoyo.png|thumb|The yoyo's texture.]] |
| [[File:Elnessjabsmaller.gif|thumb|The "Electric Ness" glitch being performed.]] | | [[File:Elnessjabsmaller.gif|thumb|The "Electric Ness" glitch being performed.]] |
| *Although Ness is no longer able to auto-snap to the ledge out of aerial PK Thunder, modifying the move to be able to do so and grabbing the ledge while PK Thunder is being controlled reveals that it will despawn as it would in the original ''Super Smash Bros.'' This even happens with v1.00 behavior where normally, the thunder ball continues to fly if Ness is hit while controlling it, possibly suggesting that PK Thunder auto-ledge-snap may have been considered initially.
| | *Ness is one of three characters whose neutral special changed during his jump to ''Melee'', the others being [[Link]] and [[Jigglypuff]]. In the original ''Super Smash Bros.'', his neutral special was PK Fire; from ''Melee'' onward, he now uses PK Flash. |
| *When Ness's profile page was updated on July 17th, 2001, [[Sakurai]] revealed that Ness was meant to be replaced by [[Lucas]] from ''Mother 3''. However, as ''Mother 3'' was facing development issues and had its original Nintendo 64 release cancelled, Ness was brought back instead.
| | *If one looks closely at Ness's Yoyo, he or she can see the words ''DOLPHIN LOOP'', with it being made by HALLAB NINTENDO in 2001 (''Melee''’s release year). Dolphin being a reference to the [[Gamecube]]'s codename, and the "makers" a reference to the developer and publisher of ''Melee'' respectively. His bat reads NETT SPORTS. |
| *Interestingly, the command structure for Ness's down aerial matches up with its ''Brawl'' counterpart, though it lacks the late hitbox. It is very likely that the down aerial was programmed this way erroneously, since it has two "Synchronous Timer" flags (4 frames and 5 frames) before the hitbox is cleared, adding up to 9 frames, while most moves only have one.
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| *The PK Fire pillar appears to have a windbox-like property. Information on this attribute is scarce and it seems to only happen under specific circumstances.
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| *''Melee'' is Ness's only appearance where PK Thunder has transcendent priority. In every other ''Super Smash Bros.'' title, it can be clanked with.
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| *Ness is one of three characters whose neutral special changed during his jump to ''Melee'', the others being [[Link]] and [[Jigglypuff]]. In the original ''Super Smash Bros.'', his neutral special was PK Fire; from ''Melee'' onward, he now uses PK Flash. As with the other two, his original neutral special remains in the game, having been transferred to the newly added side special move slot. | |
| *If one looks closely at Ness's yo-yo, they can see the words ''DOLPHIN LOOP'', with it being made by HALLAB NINTENDO in 2001 (''Melee''{{'}}s release year), Dolphin being a reference to the [[Gamecube]]'s codename, and the "makers" a reference to the developer and publisher of ''Melee'' respectively. His bat reads NETT SPORTS. | |
| *Hitting Ness as he's using [[PK Thunder]] can cause his body to constantly produce sparks afterward, though these sparks only provide a cosmetic effect. This glitch continues until he gets KOed, shields, or performs PK Thunder again. | | *Hitting Ness as he's using [[PK Thunder]] can cause his body to constantly produce sparks afterward, though these sparks only provide a cosmetic effect. This glitch continues until he gets KOed, shields, or performs PK Thunder again. |
| *Ness's [http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/ness-amiibo-super-smash-bros-series amiibo description] on the North American [[amiibo]] website is based on his trophy description from ''Melee''. | | *Ness's [http://www.nintendo.com/amiibo/detail/ness-amiibo-super-smash-bros-series amiibo description] on the North American [[amiibo]] website is based on his trophy description from ''Melee''. |
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| ==External links==
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| *[https://www.nintendo.co.jp/n01/n64/software/nus_p_nalj/smash/flash/0717/index.html Ness's page at Smabura-Ken]
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| {{EnemiesAdvSSBM}} | | {{EnemiesAdvSSBM}} |
| {{EarthBound universe}} | | {{EarthBound universe}} |
| [[Category:Ness (SSBM)| ]] | | [[Category:EarthBound universe]] |
| [[Category:Trophies (SSBM)]] | | [[Category:Ness (SSBM)]] |
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