Editing Ness (SSBB)

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{{Disambig2|Ness's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''|the character in other contexts|Ness}}

|name = Ness

|image = [[File:Ness SSBB.jpg|250px]]

|game = SSBB

|ssbgame1 = SSB

|ssbgame2 = SSBM

|tier = D

|ranking = 26

'''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''. Confirmation of Ness's inclusion in ''Brawl'' was leaked on January 18th, 2008 through a promotional video on the Japanese Wii website about [[sticker]] power ups. He was officially confirmed on February 1st, 2008 on the ''Smash Dojo'' website.  

He is once again voiced by Makiko Ōmoto. Ness' voice clips were re-purposed from the recording sessions for ''Melee'', using returning voice clips alongside previously unused ones.

 

Ness is currently ranked 26th out of 38 on the [[tier list]], a decent improvement from his placement in ''Melee'', where he was ranked 23rd out of 26 characters. Ness possesses a strong aerial game with very useful [[aerial attack]]s, as well as effective [[tilt]]s, effective [[throw]]s, a projectile with great trapping and damage potential in [[PK Fire]], a versatile projectile capable of very early KOs and [[mindgame]]s in [[PK Thunder]], and multiple powerful, reliable finishers (such as his back throw and back aerial). Ness is greatly hindered, however, by his exploitable recovery, the rather poor [[reach]] in most of his attacks, possessing one of the worst ground games in the game (due to his aforementioned poor range, his almost non-existent approach options on the ground, sluggish mobility and poor smash attacks), and by the 10 additional frames of [[lag]] he suffers when [[grab release]]d, leaving him extremely vulnerable to grab release followups from almost every character, as well as [[infinite]] and zero to death grab release [[chain grab]]s (most infamously from {{SSBB|Marth}} and {{SSBB|Donkey Kong}}). Ness overall has below-average matchups with several [[Counter (matchup)|counters]], and he has had average [[tournament]] results.

*Play 5 [[VS. match]]es.

*Reflect 10 projectiles.

*Have Ness join the player's party in [[The Subspace Emissary]] ([[Subspace (Part I)]]).

With the exception of the third method, Ness must then be defeated on [[Onett]].

Generalizing Ness is difficult. He generally runs a unique, versatile role, employing three different projectiles with differing purposes. Generally, the moves have modest lag and decent knockback, his [[PK Fire]] leads well into other attacks, and his PK Thunder can trap opponents and lead into [[PK Thunder 2]], one of the strongest attacks in the game. Also, PK Thunder and PK Flash both leave Ness very vulnerable because he can't move or attack when controlling these projectiles. Ness can use his [[PSI Magnet]] to absorb any energy projectile. The best for Ness, however, are his powerful throws, most notably his back throw, the only throw in Brawl that can reliably KO under 150% without relying on being on the edge and bad DI. Combining these with proper projectile use and appropriate Smash timing, and Ness can be a powerful foe. Shield grabs tend to be a problem for Ness since he has the shortest standing grab range in the game. He's fairly balanced in the areas of weight, falling speed, and air speed with none of them being particularly good nor particularly bad.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*{{buff|Ness' [[walking speed]] is slightly faster (0.84 → 0.86).}}

*{{buff|Ness' traction is lower (0.06 → 0.0546), going from the 15th highest to the 24th highest. Compared with the returning veterans, however, Ness's traction is higher, making it easier for him to punish out of shield.}}

*{{nerf|Ness [[dash]]es slightly slower (1.4 → 1.393).}}

*{{buff|Ness' [[air speed]] is higher (0.093 → 0.09588).}}

*{{change|As with the returning veterans, Ness' [[falling speed]] was reduced (1.83 → 1.31). Compared to the returning veterans, however, Ness falls faster. While this improves his endurance, it worsens his recovery and makes him more vulnerable to combos.}}

*{{change|Ness' gravity is lower (0.09 → 0.0711).}}

*{{change|The removal of double jump cancelling greatly hinders his already poor approach and weakens his combo ability, but significantly improves his recovery's safety.}}

*{{nerf|Ness' grounded [[grab release]] animation is 10 frames longer, which makes him vulnerable to chain grab releases and combos as the entire cast now has a 10 frame advantage when they ground release him (instead of just {{SSBM|Bowser}} who now has a 20 frame advantage over Ness due to this). He is also more vulnerable to aerial grab release followups due to the general changes to aerial grab releases.}}

**{{buff|The third hit of [[neutral attack]] has increased base knockback (16 → 40). The introduction of [[jab lock]]ing also improves the first hit's utility.}}

**{{buff|[[Down tilt]] is better at racking up damage as it deals more damage (3% → 4%) with reduced knockback (4 (base), 50 (scaling) → 3/20), has less ending lag if Ness performs another down tilt (frame 8 → 6) and it has a 30% [[tripping]] chance.}}

**{{nerf|Down tilt has a shorter duration (frames 3-5 → 3-4).}}

*[[Dash attack]]:

**{{buff|[[Dash attack]] deals more damage due to changes to [[stale move negation]] (12% → 13%) and it connects more reliably.}}

**{{buff|[[Forward smash]] has much more range (2.3436 u → 2.9 u), (2.9295 u → 3.6 u), (3.1248 u → 3.8 u), (3.3201 u → 4.1 u).}}

**{{nerf|[[Forward smash]] has more startup (frame 16 → 22) and ending lag (FAF 50 → 56).}}

**{{change|Forward smash now produces a more realistic sound of a bat hitting a baseball instead of using the [[Home-Run Bat]] sound effect.}}

**{{buff|Both up and down smashes have stronger knockback and are now able to KO at very high percentages (though the former is still among the weakest up smashes, while down smash is now a down smash of average power). They also have a longer duration (frames 12-31 → 13-35 (down), 13-36 (up)). Down smash also has less end lag (FAF 62 → 57).}}

**{{nerf|Both his up and down smash no longer increase in damage or knockback when charging. They also have more startup lag (frame 12 → 13) and up smash has more end lag (FAF 49  → 64).}}

**{{nerf|The removal of the [[Yo-yo glitch|Yoyo/Jacket glitch]] has significantly hindered his already poor range.}}

**{{change|His yo-yo has gained a new design.}}

===Aerial attacks===

**{{nerf|Neutral aerial's sourspot deals 1% less damage (8% → 7%) although its base knockback was compensated.}}

**{{buff|Forward aerial's multi hits have reduced knockback scaling (100 → 60) allowing them to connect more reliably.}}

**{{nerf|Forward aerial deals much less damage (3%/2% → 2% (loop hits), 5% → 3% (final hit), 15.74% → 11% (total)) although the final hit's knockback scaling was somewhat compensated (135 → 145). It also has less range due to only having one hitbox per hit although it is larger than the previous hitboxes (6.8u/4u → 8.1u (loop hits), 9u (final)).}}

**{{buff|Back aerial has a slightly bigger sweet-spot compared to ''Melee'' version. And its sourspot is also much larger, greatly increasing the move's overall range.}}

**{{buff|Grabs have less startup lag (frame 8 (standing)/10 (dash) → 6/8).}}

***{{buff|In addition to this, Ness now possesses a frame 6 pivot grab which is the fastest in the game.}}

**{{buff|Dash grab has less ending lag (FAF 41 → 36).}}

**{{buff|Ness' grabs are larger (3.32u/2.34u (standing)/3.32u/2.73u/2.32u (dash) → (4u/3.5u)/(4u/3.5u/3.5u)) and the furthest grabboxes are positioned further outwards (z offset: 6.65 (standing)/7.81 (dash) → 6.8/8), slightly improving their range.}}

**{{nerf|Standing grab has more ending lag (FAF 31 → 35).}}

*{{nerf|The universally decreased fall speeds and changes to hitstun remove [[up throw]] and down throw's ability to combo and chaingrab.}}

*[[Pummel]]:

**{{buff|Pummel has much less startup (frame 16 → 3) and ending lag (FAF 25 → 10).}}

**{{change|Pummel's hitbox is now static, rather than being attached to Ness' head.}}

**{{nerf|Pummel has a smaller hitbox (6.25u → 5u).}}

*[[Back throw]]:

**{{change|Back throw now makes the same sound effect as [[PSI Magnet]].}}

**{{buff|Down throw's hitboxes are larger (3.51u → 4.32u), resulting in them now connecting against every character.}}

**{{buff|Ness can now [[B-reverse]] all his specials except for [[PK Thunder]].}}

*[[PK Flash]]:

**{{change|PK Flash activates faster, charges and travels further and deals slightly more damage when fully charged (36% → 37%), but it no longer activates  automatically once it hits the ground, hits in a smaller radius and an uncharged PK Flash deals 2% less damage.}}

**{{change|PK Flash is more blueish instead of green and has a different sound effect.}}

**{{buff|PK Fire activates faster and can trap opponents more effectively.}}

*[[PK Thunder]]:

**{{buff|PK Thunder travels in a tighter arc, making it easier to hit himself. PK Thunder 2 has drastically less ending lag, is significantly stronger (60 (base), 70 (scaling) → 83/80), now KOing at around 50% and the late hitbox deals 1% more damage (20% → 21%) with more knockback scaling (65 → 70) allowing it to KO under 100%.}}

**{{change|The camera no longer follows the ball of lightning as it moves away from Ness. The lightning ball is now indigo instead of blue in color.}}

*[[PSI Magnet]]:

**{{buff|PSI Magnet now has a weak windbox when released, making it slightly safer, as well giving it a bit of extra utility.}}

**{{buff|PSI Magnet has a shorter ending animation (20 frames → 19).}}

**{{buff|After absorbing a projectile, PSI Magnet can now be cancelled with a roll, spot dodge or jump. This greatly improves PSI Magnet's safety as it not only heavily limits the opponent's ability to punish Ness if he absorbs a projectile but it can even allow Ness to punish opponents after absorbing projectiles if he is close enough.}}

**{{change|PSI Magnet is now colored indigo instead of blue. It also has a different sound effect}}

**{{nerf|PSI Magnet heals less damage (x2.0 → x1.6) and it can now only heal up to 30% damage.}}

*[[PK Starstorm]]:

**{{Change|Ness now has a [[Final Smash]]: PK Starstorm. He uses his PK energy to summon multiple meteorites from the sky which each deal 20% to opponents.}}

|game=SSBB

|neutralcount=3

|neutralname=Jab ({{ja|ジャブ|Jyabu}}) / Straight ({{ja|ストレート|Sutorēto}}) / Middle Kick ({{ja|ミドルキック|Midoru Kikku}})

|neutral1dmg=3%

|neutral2dmg=2%

|neutral3dmg=4%

|neutraldesc=Ness punches twice, then kicks.

|ftiltname=Short Kick ({{ja|ショートキック|Shōto Kikku}})

|ftiltangles=3

|ftiltupdmg=12%

|ftiltsidedmg=11%

|ftiltdowndmg=10%

|ftiltdesc=Ness kicks with a foot forward. Can be angled.

|utiltname=Toss ({{ja|トス|Tosu}})

|utiltdmg=7%

|utiltdesc=Ness pushes upward with both hands.

|dtiltname=Crouching Kick ({{ja|クラウチングキック|Kurauchingu Kikku}})

|dtiltdmg=4%

|dtiltdesc=Ness swiftly kicks out in front of him. Extremely spammable. Has a chance of making the opponent trip.

|dashdmg=5% (hit 1), 4% (hits 2-3)

|dashdesc=Sends three PSI sparks out in front of him with the third spark knocking the opponent up into the air. Each hit sends the opponent in a different direction, with different knockback. Great, disjointed range. If all hits connect, it can be followed up by an aerial combo.

|fsmashname=Batter Up! ({{ja|バットスイング|Batto Suingu}}, ''Bat Swing'')

|fsmashdesc=Ness swings his bat. There are four hitboxes on the bat, dealing 18%, 20%, 22% and 24% uncharged, the strongest part being at the tip of his bat. The bat will [[reflect]] incoming projectiles when he swings it.

|usmashdesc=Ness sends his yo-yo forward and performs "around-the-world" over himself. Interestingly, when it's 'charging', it doesn't increase in damage or knockback. If Ness is too close to the ledge and facing it, he cannot charge the move, presumably to prevent the charging hitbox from blocking the ledge.

|dsmashname=Walk the Dog ({{ja|ヨーヨーショット|Yōyō Shotto}}, ''Yo-Yo Shot'')

|dsmashdmg=4% (startup & charge), 13% (attack)

|dsmashdesc=Ness sends his yo-yo backwards and "walks-the-dog" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. Similar to his up smash, the yo-yo doesn't increase in damage or in knockback when it's "charging". If Ness is too close to the ledge and facing away from it, he cannot charge the move, presumably to prevent the charging hitbox from blocking the ledge.

|nairdmg=11% (clean), 7% (late)

|nairdesc=Spins diagonally in the air with arms outstretched.

|fairdmg=2% (hits 1-4), 3% (hit 5)

|fairdesc=Ness sticks out his palms out, sending a stream of PSI sparks in front of him.

|bairdmg=15% (clean), 8% (late)

|uairdesc=Ness headbutts up into the air.

|dairname=Needle Kick ({{ja|ニードルキック|Nīdoru Kikku}})

|dairdmg=12% (clean), 9% (late)

|dairdesc=Ness pulls his legs to his body before stomping down into the air. This attack can [[meteor smash]] in the first frame of the move. Somewhat laggy in the startup.

|pummeldesc=Ness quickly headbutts the opponent. Very fast.

|fthrowdesc=Ness psychokinetically swings his opponent in a small circle in front of himself before sending them off forward.

|bthrowname=Reverse PK Throw ({{ja|リバースＰＫスルー|Ribāsu Pīkei Surū}})

|bthrowdesc=Ness psychokinetically swings the opponent over his head before sending them off backwards, in a diagonally upwards motion. Has extremely low base knockback but very high knockback scaling. Has the highest KO potential of all throws.

|uthrowname=Cowboy PK Throw ({{ja|カウボーイＰＫスルー|Kaubōi Pīkei Surū}})

|dthrowdesc=Ness throws his opponent onto the ground and scorches them with [[PK Fire]]. Combined with pummeling and [[PK Fire]], it can be used to rack up a high amount of damage quickly.

|floorfdmg=6%

|floorfdesc=Gets up and kicks both sides of himself.

|floorbdmg=6%

|floorbdesc=Gets up and kicks both sides of himself.

|edgefdmg=8% (leg), 6% (body)

|edgefdesc=Flips onto the stage and does a sweep kick.

|edgesdmg=10%

|edgesdesc=Slowly pulls himself up and delivers a powerful punch.

|nsdesc=Ness generates a green pulse of energy that is sent upwards, then explodes. It can be charged, increasing damage and knockback while causing it to curve downwards, and it can be moved sideways.

|ssdmg=4% (lightning), 1-2% (fire)

|ssdesc=Fires a yellow, lightning-bolt shaped projectile, that travels in a straight line until it hits an enemy or destructible portion of a stage, at which point it explodes into flames. When used in midair, Ness fires the bolt at a 45° angle.

|usdesc=Ness creates a stream of lightning that can be aimed into opponents to deal damage with the head and stun with the tail. Aiming the head into Ness himself will launch him in a trajectory opposite to the side he was hit on, which is referred to as [[PK Thunder 2]]. PK Thunder 2 has invincibility frames during the first half of the move.

|dsdmg=0%, heals x1.6 the damage of absorbed projectiles.

|dsdesc=Creates a blue energy field around himself which allows him to absorb all energy-based projectiles. It can be held in order to use it repeatedly. The move pushes nearby opponents when the button is released.

|fsdesc=Ness calls down a rain of stars from the sky, yelling "PK... Starstorm!".

 

===[[Announcer]] call===

{{audio|Needs Korean announcer call.}}

Ness English Announcer SSBB.wav|English/Japanese

Ness French Announcer SSBU.wav|French

Ness German Announcer SSBU.wav|German

Ness Italian Announcer SSBU.wav|Italian

Ness Spanish Announcer SSBU.wav|Spanish

===[[Wii Remote selection sound]]===

{{SelectSound|char=Ness|desc=Ness says "Okay." like his up taunt.}}

===[[On-screen appearance]]===

|desc=Ness teleports onscreen using PSI Teleport, then shakes off the soot gathered after crashing.

|char=Ness

|game=SSBB}}

===[[Taunt]]s===

|char=Ness

|desc-up=Ness bows and says "Okay." Ness' Up taunt is a reference to the naming screen in Ness' game ''[[EarthBound]]''. When one confirms the name one is giving a character, one hears a sound effect of the game's creator, [[Shigesato Itoi]], say "Ok desu ka." which means "Is this okay?" in Japanese.

|desc-side=Ness points his bat outward and says "HUM!"

|desc-down=Ness creates PSI sparkles on his fingers while saying "Tra!"}}

===[[Idle pose]]s===

{{Idle

|desc-1=Closes his eyes and places his finger to his forehead, similar to Lucas' Down taunt.

|desc-2=Frowns and looks around cautiously.

|image-1=Ness Idle Pose 1 Brawl.png

|image-2=Ness Idle Pose 2 Brawl.png}}

===[[Crowd cheer]]===

! scope="row"|Cheer

|[[File:Ness Cheer English SSBB.ogg|center]]||[[File:Ness Cheer Japanese SSBB.ogg|center]]||[[File:Ness Cheer German SSBB.ogg|center]]||rowspan="4"|[[File:Ness Cheer Korean SSBB.ogg|center]]

! scope="row"|Description

! scope="row"|Cheer

! scope="row"|Description

===[[Victory pose]]s===

|victory-theme=MotherUniverseTheme.ogg

|victory-desc=A fast-paced cover of a portion of the opening theme from ''Mother''.

|desc-up=He jumps up and down twice, swinging his arms, before quickly nodding twice towards the screen with arms akimbo.

|desc-left=He looks to his sides quickly before facing the screen, putting his hand on the back of his head. (His animation when chosen in ''Super Smash Bros.'')

|desc-right=He swings his bat many times before holding the bat with his right hand, outstretched and pointing diagonally upwards.

==In [[competitive play]]==

===Notable players===

*{{Sm|Ness682|USA}} - The current active Ness player online in recent years. Ranked 7 in the Brawl Central Power Ranking. He had also made top 16 solo Ness at Super Smash Con 2023.

===Tier placement and history===

Ness' standing in the metagame initially had not changed much, in spite of his buffs in the transition. He was originally seen as a low tier character, lying at 31st. Players at the time immediately noticed the presence of the 10 extra frames to his grab release animation, making him very vulnerable his grab release combos by many characters in the cast, where common characters like {{SSBB|Marth}} could easily exploit such detriments, resulting in his quality-of-life buffs being insufficient to alleviate his most significant problems (most notably his atrocious recovery, his barely improved mobility, range, and KO power and his horrible neutral game), as well as the loss of double jump canceling, the overall slower falling speeds and the ability to act out of hitstun having severely decreased his combo ability. However, he did increase to 27th by the third tier list as new Ness professionals were discovered, and he stayed there for every single tier list in ''Brawl'', until the last one, where he was slightly bolstered by one tier.

However, Ness had heavily struggled throughout the game's competitive lifespan, as aside from making approaches {{SSBB|Olimar}} difficult, his amplified consequences upon getting punished made it extremely hard for him to approach the rest of the cast.

==In Solo Modes==

==={{SSBB|Classic Mode}}===

In Classic Mode, Ness can appear as an opponent or ally in Stage 4 if he has been unlocked along with {{SSBB|Marth}}, {{SSBB|Ike}}, and {{SSBB|Lucas}} on [[Castle Siege]] or [[New Pork City]]. Ness can also appear as an opponent in Stage 11, but only if he hasn't appeared in Stage 4.

===[[All-Star Mode]]===

In All-Star Mode, Ness is fought in Stage 10 alongside {{SSBB|Lucas}} on [[New Pork City]].

*'''[[Event 21: Visit to Onett]]''': The player controls {{SSBB|Lucas}} and must defeat Ness on [[Onett]].

*'''[[Event 25: The Aura Is With Me]]''': As {{SSBB|Lucario}} at 182% damage, the player must defeat {{SSBB|Sheik}} and Ness on [[Spear Pillar]].

*'''[[Event 26: The Slow and Easy Life]]''': Ness must defeat three tiny {{SSBB|Olimar}}s on [[Smashville]] before K.K. Slider's song ends.

*'''[[Event 29: All-Star Semifinal Regulars]]''': Ness is one of the opponents fought in this event. All opponents are characters that were unlockable from the original ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' game.

*'''[[Co-Op Event 9: Those Who Wait in Onett]]''': {{SSBB|Lucas}} and Ness must defeat {{SSBB|Luigi}} and {{SSBB|Yoshi}} on [[Onett]].

*'''[[Co-Op Event 16: Jigglypuff's Great Comeback]]''': {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}} and {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}}, who are tiny, must defeat {{SSBB|Lucas}} and Ness, who are giant, on [[Castle Siege]]. As the stage changes to different backgrounds, Jigglypuff will grow and Lucas and Ness will shrink.

*'''[[Co-Op Event 21: The True All-Star Battle]]''': Both players select a character and take on the entire roster on {{SSBB|Battlefield}}.

===[[Congratulations_screen#Super_Smash_Bros._Brawl|Congratulations Screens]]===

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

==[[Alternate costume (SSBB)#Ness|Alternate costumes]]==

|colspan=6|[[File:Ness Palette (SSBB).png]]

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|{{Head|Ness|g=SSBB|s=25px}}

 

SSBBDojoNess3.jpg|Using his [[forward tilt]] on {{SSBB|Olimar}} on [[Distant Planet]].

*Despite being the first character unlocked through playing Brawls, Ness is one of the last characters unlocked by playing ''The Subspace Emissary''. He is also the first unlockable character to be playable in ''The Subspace Emissary'', despite not joining the player's team until near the end of the game.

*Strangely, Ness has visible teeth during the cutscenes of The Subspace Emissary, but not during the actual gameplay. {{SSBB|Lucas}} has this distinction as well.

*Ness and {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}} are the only two characters to have their unlockability status change between ''Melee'' and ''Brawl''.

**This was also the case for the transition between ''Smash 64'' and ''Melee''.

*Ness is the only fighter to have his trophy list another ''Super Smash Bros.'' game for his game appearances. This is most likely due to the fact that outside of the ''{{b|Super Smash Bros.|series}}'' series, he only made a playable appearance in ''{{b|EarthBound|game}}''. {{forwiiu}} instead lists the second appearance as ''Mother 1+2'', released in 2003 for the Game Boy Advance.

*Ness is the only character to be fought on a [[Melee Stage]] ([[Onett]]) when being unlocked.

*Ness is one of the only four unlockable characters to appear in the opening cinematic of ''Brawl''. The three others sharing this attribute are {{SSBB|Marth}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, and {{SSBB|Sonic}}.

 

*[http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/characters/hidden01.html DOJO!! page]

*[http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=169865 Ness Character Guide on SmashBoards]

 

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