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==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''==
==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Melee]]''==
Ness has received a mix of buffs and nerfs, but given that he was one of the worst characters in ''Melee'', he was noticeably buffed overall in the transition to ''Brawl''. While he has seen relatively few direct changes compared to other characters, he has nevertheless seen improvements. His aerial game has seen noticeable improvements as his aerial mobility has improved, most of his aerials have less landing lag, his forward aerial while weaker connects more reliably making it a more effective spacing tool and his up and down aerials have more range and are overall more effective KO moves due to the changes to ''Brawl''{{'}}s mechanics. His recovery, while still poor, is more reliable due to his higher air speed, lower falling speed, and the removal of [[double jump cancel]]ing. A number of moves have stronger knockback; some examples being his up and down aerials, his smash attacks, and [[PK Thunder]] 2. These give him more reliable and stronger KO potential.
Ness has received a mix of buffs and nerfs, but given that he was one of the worst characters in ''Melee'', he was noticeably buffed overall in the transition to ''Brawl''. While he has seen relatively few direct changes compared to other characters, he has nevertheless seen improvements. His aerial game has seen noticeable improvements as his aerial mobility has improved, most of his aerials have less landing lag, his forward aerial while weaker connects more reliably making it a more effective spacing tool and his up and down aerials have more range and are overall more effective KO moves due to the changes to ''Brawl'''s mechanics. His recovery, while still poor, is more reliable due to his higher air speed, lower falling speed, and the removal of [[double jump cancel]]ing. A number of moves have stronger knockback; some examples being his up and down aerials, his smash attacks, and [[PK Thunder]] 2. These give him more reliable and stronger KO potential.


However, he also received several drastic nerfs that magnify his flaws, the most significant of which being the 10 extra frames added to his grounded grab release animation. This is detrimental for Ness as it makes him vulnerable to inescapable kill confirms and even infinite [[chain grab]]s from some characters. His combo potential is also significantly lower due to the introduction of [[hitstun canceling]], the universally decreased falling speeds and the removal of double jump cancelling. Furthermore, many of his notable buffs have failed to completely alleviate many of his most glaring flaws; his barely improved recovery remains glaringly easy to gimp or edgeguard, while his marginally better overall range is still short relative to the cast, which is exacerbated by the loss of his powerful yo-yo glitch. This, alongside his overall slow mobility, still makes him heavily struggle in approaching most of his opponents. Finally, while his KOing ability is much better than in ''Melee'', Ness still struggles KO foes consistently, as his slightly better smash attacks are still sluggish and somewhat weak compared to the rest of the cast, while his other most powerful KO moves still suffer from his aforementioned poor range.
However, he also received several drastic nerfs that magnify his flaws, the most significant of which being the 10 extra frames added to his grounded grab release animation. This is detrimental for Ness as it makes him vulnerable to inescapable kill confirms and even infinite [[chain grab]]s from some characters. His combo potential is also significantly lower due to the introduction of [[hitstun canceling]], the universally decreased falling speeds and the removal of double jump cancelling. Furthermore, many of his notable buffs have failed to completely alleviate many of his most glaring flaws; his barely improved recovery remains glaringly easy to gimp or edgeguard, while his marginally better overall range is still short relative to the cast, which is exacerbated by the loss of his powerful yo-yo glitch. This, alongside his overall slow mobility, still makes him heavily struggle in approaching most of his opponents. Finally, while his KOing ability is much better than in ''Melee'', Ness still struggles KO foes consistently, as his slightly better smash attacks are still sluggish and somewhat weak compared to the rest of the cast, while his other most powerful KO moves still suffer from his aforementioned poor range.
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==In [[competitive play]]==
==In [[competitive play]]==
===Notable players===
===Notable players===
:''See also: [[:Category:Ness players (SSBB)]]''
:''See also: [[:Category:Ness players (SSBB)]]
*{{Sm|FOW|USA}} - Considered one of the best Ness mains in the world before switching to {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}.
*{{sm|FOW|USA}} - Considered one of the best Ness mains in the world before switching to {{SSBB|Meta Knight}}.
*{{Sm|Fsann|Japan}} - Japan's top Ness player.
*{{sm|Fsann|Japan}} - Japan's top Ness player.
*{{Sm|Shaky|USA}} - Considered the undisputed best Ness following FOW's switch to Meta Knight.
*{{sm|Shaky|USA}} - Considered the undisputed best Ness following FOW's switch to Meta Knight.
*{{Sm|Ness682|USA}} - The current active Ness player online in recent years. Ranked 7 in the Brawl Central Power Ranking. He had also made top 16 solo Ness at Super Smash Con 2023.
*{{sm|Ness682|USA}} - The current active Ness player online in recent years. Ranked 7 in the Brawl Central Power Ranking. He had also made top 16 solo Ness at Super Smash Con 2023.


===Tier placement and history===
===Tier placement and history===
Ness' standing in the metagame initially had not changed much, in spite of his buffs in the transition. He was originally seen as a low tier character, lying at 31st. Players at the time immediately noticed the presence of the 10 extra frames to his grab release animation, making him very vulnerable his grab release combos by many characters in the cast, where common characters like {{SSBB|Marth}} could easily exploit such detriments, resulting in his quality-of-life buffs being insufficient to alleviate his most significant problems (most notably his atrocious recovery, his barely improved mobility, range, and KO power and his horrible neutral game), as well as the loss of double jump canceling, the overall slower falling speeds and the ability to act out of hitstun having severely decreased his combo ability. However, he did increase to 27th by the third tier list as new Ness professionals were discovered, and he stayed there for every single tier list in ''Brawl'', until the last one, where he was slightly bolstered by one tier.
Ness' standing in the metagame initially had not changed much, in spite of his buffs in the transition. He was originally seen as a low tier character, lying at 31st. Players at the time immediately noticed the presence of the 10 extra frames to his grab release animation, making him very vulnerable his grab release combos by many characters in the cast, where common characters like {{SSBB|Marth}} could easily exploit such detriments, resulting in his quality-of-life buffs being insufficient to alleviate his most significant problems (most notably his atrocious recovery, his barely improved mobility, range, and KO power and his horrible neutral game), as well as the loss of double jump canceling, the overall slower falling speeds and the ability to act out of hitstun having severely decreased his combo ability. However, he did increase to 27th by the third tier list as new Ness professionals were discovered, and he stayed there for every single tier list in ''Brawl'', until the last one, where he was slightly bolstered by one tier.
However, Ness had heavily struggled throughout the game's competitive lifespan, as aside from making approaches {{SSBB|Olimar}} difficult, his amplified consequences upon getting punished made it extremely hard for him to approach the rest of the cast.
However, Ness had heavily struggled throughout the game’s competitive lifespan, as aside from making approaches {{SSBB|Olimar}} difficult, his amplified consequences upon getting punished made it extremely hard for him to approach the rest of the cast.


==In Solo Modes==
==In Solo Modes==
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==Trivia==
==Trivia==
*Ness was briefly considered being cut from ''Brawl'', but ''Mother 3'' only releasing in Japan resulted in both Ness and Lucas being included.<ref>https://twitter.com/pushdustin/status/1626015096781836288</ref>
*Ness was briefly considered being cut from ''Brawl'', but ''Mother 3'' only releasing in Japan resulted in both Ness and Lucas being included. <ref>https://twitter.com/pushdustin/status/1626015096781836288</ref>
*Despite being the first character unlocked through playing Brawls, Ness is one of the last characters unlocked by playing ''The Subspace Emissary''. He is also the first unlockable character to be playable in ''The Subspace Emissary'', despite not joining the player's team until near the end of the game.
*Despite being the first character unlocked through playing Brawls, Ness is one of the last characters unlocked by playing ''The Subspace Emissary''. He is also the first unlockable character to be playable in ''The Subspace Emissary'', despite not joining the player's team until near the end of the game.
*Strangely, Ness has visible teeth during the cutscenes of the Subspace Emissary, but not during the actual gameplay. {{SSBB|Lucas}} has this distinction as well.
*Strangely, Ness has visible teeth during the cutscenes of the Subspace Emissary, but not during the actual gameplay. {{SSBB|Lucas}} has this distinction as well.
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*Ness is the only character to be fought on a [[Melee Stage]] ([[Onett]]) when being unlocked.
*Ness is the only character to be fought on a [[Melee Stage]] ([[Onett]]) when being unlocked.
*Ness is one of the only four unlockable characters to appear in the opening cinematic of ''Brawl''. The three others sharing this attribute are {{SSBB|Marth}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, and {{SSBB|Sonic}}.
*Ness is one of the only four unlockable characters to appear in the opening cinematic of ''Brawl''. The three others sharing this attribute are {{SSBB|Marth}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, and {{SSBB|Sonic}}.
==References==
{{Reflist}}


==External links==
==External links==
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