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**{{nerf|Back aerial has increased landing lag (12 frames → 17).}} | **{{nerf|Back aerial has increased landing lag (12 frames → 17).}} | ||
*[[Up aerial]]: | *[[Up aerial]]: | ||
**{{change|Up aerial has an altered animation where Ness swings his head | **{{change|Up aerial has an altered animation where Ness swings his head more quickly.}} | ||
***{{buff|This new animation increases the move's horizontal range.}} | ***{{buff|This new animation increases the move's horizontal range.}} | ||
***{{nerf|However, this also makes the move slightly harder to use as an anti-air.}} | ***{{nerf|However, this also makes the move slightly harder to use as an anti-air.}} | ||
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**{{change|Down aerial uses the strong magic sound effect on hit instead of a strong/medium punch sound.}} | **{{change|Down aerial uses the strong magic sound effect on hit instead of a strong/medium punch sound.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Down aerial has a shorter duration (frames 20-23 (clean)/24-28 (late) → 20-21/22-24).}} | **{{nerf|Down aerial has a shorter duration (frames 20-23 (clean)/24-28 (late) → 20-21/22-24).}} | ||
**{{nerf|Down aerial [[auto-cancel]]s much later (frame 29 → 50), removing its ability to auto-cancel in a short hop, | **{{nerf|Down aerial [[auto-cancel]]s much later (frame 29 → 50), removing its ability to auto-cancel in a short hop, lead alone straight after the hitboxes are no longer active.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Down aerial has drastically decreased base knockback (90 → 20 (clean)/30 (late)), with both hits now being incapable of KOing at realistic percentages, even with the removal of [[meteor cancel]]ing and the late hit's increased damage.}} | **{{nerf|Down aerial has drastically decreased base knockback (90 → 20 (clean)/30 (late)), with both hits now being incapable of KOing at realistic percentages, even with the removal of [[meteor cancel]]ing and the late hit's increased damage.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Down aerial has smaller hitboxes (6.54u → 3.9u (clean)/6u (late)).}} | **{{nerf|Down aerial has smaller hitboxes (6.54u → 3.9u (clean)/6u (late)).}} | ||
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===Throws/other attacks=== | ===Throws/other attacks=== | ||
*[[Grab]]s: | *[[Grab]]s: | ||
**{{buff|All grabs are positioned further outwards (z offset: 6.8 (standing)/8 (dash)/-12 (pivot) → z stretch: 8/10/14), improving their range | **{{buff|All grabs are positioned further outwards (z offset: 6.8 (standing)/8 (dash)/-12 (pivot) → z stretch: 8/10/14), improving their range.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Pivot grab has more startup lag (frame 6 → 10), no longer being the fastest in the game.}} | **{{nerf|Pivot grab has more startup lag (frame 6 → 10), no longer being the fastest in the game.}} | ||
**{{nerf|Dash and pivot grab have more ending lag (FAF 36 (both) → 43 (dash), 41 (pivot)).}} | **{{nerf|Dash and pivot grab have more ending lag (FAF 36 (both) → 43 (dash), 41 (pivot)).}} | ||
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|game=SSB4 | |game=SSB4 | ||
|neutralcount=3 | |neutralcount=3 | ||
|neutralname= | |neutralname= | ||
|neutral1dmg=2% | |neutral1dmg=2% | ||
|neutral2dmg=2% | |neutral2dmg=2% | ||
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|neutraldesc=Punches twice, then kicks. The first hit can jab [[lock]] at low percentages. | |neutraldesc=Punches twice, then kicks. The first hit can jab [[lock]] at low percentages. | ||
|ftiltangles=3 | |ftiltangles=3 | ||
|ftiltname= | |ftiltname= | ||
|ftiltupdmg=10% | |ftiltupdmg=10% | ||
|ftiltsidedmg=9% | |ftiltsidedmg=9% | ||
|ftiltdowndmg=10% | |ftiltdowndmg=10% | ||
|ftiltdesc=A roundhouse kick. Can be angled, making it deal 1% more damage. It can also lock at low percents. | |ftiltdesc=A roundhouse kick. Can be angled, making it deal 1% more damage. It can also lock at low percents. | ||
|utiltname= | |utiltname= | ||
|utiltdmg=7% (arms) 5% (hands) | |utiltdmg=7% (arms) 5% (hands) | ||
|utiltdesc=Pushes upward with both hands that produces a PSI spark. Has a sourspot located on his hands that deals 5%. | |utiltdesc=Pushes upward with both hands that produces a PSI spark. Has a sourspot located on his hands that deals 5%. | ||
|dtiltname= | |dtiltname= | ||
|dtiltdmg=4% (foot), 2% (toes) | |dtiltdmg=4% (foot), 2% (toes) | ||
|dtiltdesc=A swift shin kick. Extremely spammable and can be used to jab reset. Has a sourspot located on the tip of his foot. Has a chance of making the opponent trip. | |dtiltdesc=A swift shin kick. Extremely spammable and can be used to jab reset. Has a sourspot located on the tip of his foot. Has a chance of making the opponent trip. | ||
|dashname= | |dashname= | ||
|dashdmg=4%/3% (hit 1), 7% (hit 1 aerial), 2% (hit 2), 4% (hit 3) | |dashdmg=4%/3% (hit 1), 7% (hit 1 aerial), 2% (hit 2), 4% (hit 3) | ||
|dashdesc=Sends three PSI sparks out in front of him with the third spark knocking the opponent up into the air. The first spark deals more damage to aerial targets. Good to set up juggles and pressuring from afar. Difficult to punish on shield if only the last hit connects. | |dashdesc=Sends three PSI sparks out in front of him with the third spark knocking the opponent up into the air. The first spark deals more damage to aerial targets. Good to set up juggles and pressuring from afar. Difficult to punish on shield if only the last hit connects. | ||
|fsmashname= | |fsmashname= | ||
|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|18}} (low), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|20}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|22}} (tip), 2× damage (reflected projectiles) | |fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|18}} (low), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|20}} (mid), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|22}} (tip), 2× damage (reflected projectiles) | ||
|fsmashdesc=Swings his bat. It is the second strongest forward smash in the game when sweetspotted at the tip of the bat and still one of the strongest forward smashes when untippered, but it has some start-up and ending lag. The bat itself will [[reflect]] incoming projectiles when he swings it. However, reflecting a projectile that is too strong to reflect will result in Ness experiencing five full seconds of ending lag, although this is uncommon since it requires a strong projectile to be reflected multiple times. | |fsmashdesc=Swings his bat. It is the second strongest forward smash in the game when sweetspotted at the tip of the bat and still one of the strongest forward smashes when untippered, but it has some start-up and ending lag. The bat itself will [[reflect]] incoming projectiles when he swings it. However, reflecting a projectile that is too strong to reflect will result in Ness experiencing five full seconds of ending lag, although this is uncommon since it requires a strong projectile to be reflected multiple times. | ||
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|dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|1}} (hit 1, front and back) {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|1}} (hit 2, front and back) {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (hit 3, front and back) | |dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|1}} (hit 1, front and back) {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|1}} (hit 2, front and back) {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (hit 3, front and back) | ||
|dsmashdesc=Sends his yo-yo backwards and "walk-the-dog" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. Covers get up options well, but cannot connect well if the opponent is at the longest range of the move. | |dsmashdesc=Sends his yo-yo backwards and "walk-the-dog" with it before pulling the yo-yo back. Covers get up options well, but cannot connect well if the opponent is at the longest range of the move. | ||
|nairname= | |nairname= | ||
|nairdmg=11% (clean), 7% (late) | |nairdmg=11% (clean), 7% (late) | ||
|nairdesc=Spins diagonally in the air with his arms outstretched. Quick, and acts like a [[sex kick]]. Can be followed-up after a down throw. Rather useful to break combos and as an out of shield option. Autocancels from a short hop. | |nairdesc=Spins diagonally in the air with his arms outstretched. Quick, and acts like a [[sex kick]]. Can be followed-up after a down throw. Rather useful to break combos and as an out of shield option. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
|fairname= | |fairname= | ||
|fairdmg=1% (hit 1-3) 4% (hit 4) | |fairdmg=1% (hit 1-3) 4% (hit 4) | ||
|fairdesc=Sticks his palms out, sending a stream of PSI sparks in front of him. Decently safe on shield if Ness retreats during the attack, useful to start and continue combos. Autocancels from a short hop. | |fairdesc=Sticks his palms out, sending a stream of PSI sparks in front of him. Decently safe on shield if Ness retreats during the attack, useful to start and continue combos. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
|bairname= | |bairname= | ||
|bairdmg=15% (clean), 8% (late) | |bairdmg=15% (clean), 8% (late) | ||
|bairdesc=Ness kicks out backwards with both feet. The initial hit is immensely strong, KOing at 125% onstage and even lower at the ledge. Autocancels from a short hop. | |bairdesc=Ness kicks out backwards with both feet. The initial hit is immensely strong, KOing at 125% onstage and even lower at the ledge. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
|uairname= | |uairname= | ||
|uairdmg=13% | |uairdmg=13% | ||
|uairdesc=An upwards headbutt. It is considered one of Ness' best aerials, due to its rather quick startup, power that makes it effective for comboing at low percentages and KOing at high ones, starting at 115%. Autocancels from a short hop. | |uairdesc=An upwards headbutt. It is considered one of Ness' best aerials, due to its rather quick startup, power that makes it effective for comboing at low percentages and KOing at high ones, starting at 115%. Autocancels from a short hop. | ||
|dairname= | |dairname= | ||
|dairdmg=12% (sweetspot), 10% (sourspot) | |dairdmg=12% (sweetspot), 10% (sourspot) | ||
|dairdesc=Pulls his legs to his body before stomping down into the air, producing a PSI spark. This attack can [[meteor smash]] on the first frame. It has slow start up, as it comes out on frame 20 and has lots of landing lag (28 frames). It only autocancels before the hitbox comes out, making it useful to cancel the tumble animation when Ness is near the ground. | |dairdesc=Pulls his legs to his body before stomping down into the air, producing a PSI spark. This attack can [[meteor smash]] on the first frame. It has slow start up, as it comes out on frame 20 and has lots of landing lag (28 frames). It only autocancels before the hitbox comes out, making it useful to cancel the tumble animation when Ness is near the ground. | ||
|grabname= | |grabname= | ||
|grabdesc=Grabs with both hands. Fast, but below average range. | |grabdesc=Grabs with both hands. Fast, but below average range. | ||
|pummelname= | |pummelname= | ||
|pummeldmg=1.2% | |pummeldmg=1.2% | ||
|pummeldesc=Headbutts the opponent. A fast pummel. | |pummeldesc=Headbutts the opponent. A fast pummel. | ||
|fthrowname= | |fthrowname= | ||
|fthrowdmg=11% | |fthrowdmg=11% | ||
|fthrowdesc=Psychokinetically swings his opponent in a small circle in front of himself before sending them off forward. Very high base knockback, but incredibly low knockback scaling, which gives it little to no KO potential even after Sudden Death percentages. It is useful for setting up an edgeguard, however. | |fthrowdesc=Psychokinetically swings his opponent in a small circle in front of himself before sending them off forward. Very high base knockback, but incredibly low knockback scaling, which gives it little to no KO potential even after Sudden Death percentages. It is useful for setting up an edgeguard, however. | ||
|bthrowname= | |bthrowname= | ||
|bthrowdmg=11% | |bthrowdmg=11% | ||
|bthrowdesc=Psychokinetically swings the opponent over his head before sending them off backwards, in a diagonally upwards motion. Possesses very low base knockback but incredibly high knockback scaling, making it the strongest throw in the entire game, KOing even the heaviest characters with optimal DI at 122% near the ledge without rage. | |bthrowdesc=Psychokinetically swings the opponent over his head before sending them off backwards, in a diagonally upwards motion. Possesses very low base knockback but incredibly high knockback scaling, making it the strongest throw in the entire game, KOing even the heaviest characters with optimal DI at 122% near the ledge without rage. | ||
|uthrowname= | |uthrowname= | ||
|uthrowdmg=10% | |uthrowdmg=10% | ||
|uthrowdesc=Psychokinetically spins the opponent above his head before sending them up. Leaves the opponent in an unfavorable position where they can be juggled, most commonly by PK Thunder. | |uthrowdesc=Psychokinetically spins the opponent above his head before sending them up. Leaves the opponent in an unfavorable position where they can be juggled, most commonly by PK Thunder. | ||
|dthrowname= | |dthrowname= | ||
|dthrowdmg=0.6% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) | |dthrowdmg=0.6% (hits 1-5), 4% (throw) | ||
|dthrowdesc=Throws the opponent onto the ground and scorches them with PK Fire. A strong combo starter, having guaranteed follow-ups into neutral aerial, forward aerial and up aerial. | |dthrowdesc=Throws the opponent onto the ground and scorches them with PK Fire. A strong combo starter, having guaranteed follow-ups into neutral aerial, forward aerial and up aerial. | ||
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|nsc2name=[[PK Freeze]] | |nsc2name=[[PK Freeze]] | ||
|nsc2dmg=10%-19% | |nsc2dmg=10%-19% | ||
|nsc2desc=Inflicts less damage, but freezes opponents. Works like {{SSB4|Lucas}}'s neutral special, except with the same movement as PK Flash. His voice | |nsc2desc=Inflicts less damage, but freezes opponents. Works like {{SSB4|Lucas}}'s neutral special, except with the same movement as PK Flash. His voice clips also changes. | ||
|ssdefname=PK Fire | |ssdefname=PK Fire | ||
|ssdefdmg=4% (lightning), 2% (fire) | |ssdefdmg=4% (lightning), 2% (fire) | ||
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|djump = 34.476265 | |djump = 34.476265 | ||
|rdjump = 25 | |rdjump = 25 | ||
}} | }} | ||
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===[[Crowd cheer]]=== | ===[[Crowd cheer]]=== | ||
{ | {{Crowd | ||
|char=Ness | |||
|game=SSB4 | |||
|desc-us=Su-per Ness! | |||
|desc-jp=Ness! Ness! Ness! | |||
|pitch-us=Group chant | |||
| | |pitch-jp=Group chant}} | ||
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===[[Victory pose]]s=== | ===[[Victory pose]]s=== | ||
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*{{Sm|BestNess|USA}} - A known Ness player for most of competitive ''Smash 4'', as well as the best Ness player in the world in 2018, with some of Ness's best regional performances, such as winning {{Trn|Super Smash Fight Club 4}} over {{Sm|Elegant}} and {{Sm|Ned}}, and placing 7th at {{Trn|SCR 2018}} defeating {{Sm|Zenyou}}. He also had some of Ness's best major performances since FOW, placing 13th at {{Trn|The Big House 8}} defeating {{Sm|Vinnie}}, placing 25th at {{Trn|GENESIS 5}}, and defeating {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2018}}. | *{{Sm|BestNess|USA}} - A known Ness player for most of competitive ''Smash 4'', as well as the best Ness player in the world in 2018, with some of Ness's best regional performances, such as winning {{Trn|Super Smash Fight Club 4}} over {{Sm|Elegant}} and {{Sm|Ned}}, and placing 7th at {{Trn|SCR 2018}} defeating {{Sm|Zenyou}}. He also had some of Ness's best major performances since FOW, placing 13th at {{Trn|The Big House 8}} defeating {{Sm|Vinnie}}, placing 25th at {{Trn|GENESIS 5}}, and defeating {{Sm|Light|p=Connecticut}} at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2018}}. | ||
*{{Sm|FOW|USA}} - Ness's most well-known representative, as well as the | *{{Sm|FOW|USA}} - Ness's most well-known representative, as well as the best solo-Ness player of all-time, ranking as high as 12th on the [[PGR v1]] thanks to strong major performances such as 5th at {{Trn|GENESIS 3}} and 7th at {{Trn|EVO 2015}}. His activity at national-level events dwindled in mid-2016; however, he remained a strong threat at events he did attend, including placing 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: Nairo Saga}}, and was ultimately ranked 57th on the [[PGR 100]], the highest-ranking solo-Ness player on the list. | ||
*{{Sm|Gackt|Japan}} - Japan's best Ness player in the game's later years and one of the best Ness players in the world in 2018, having become infamous for his offensive usage of PK Thunder 2. His breakout event was at {{Trn|The Big House 7}}, where he defeated {{Sm|ANTi}} and {{Sm|Locus}} to place 17th, and although he remained inconsistent, he nevertheless remained one of Ness's most notable representatives after FOW's inactivity, placing 5th at {{Trn|Rikabura 8}} defeating {{Sm|Abadango}}, as well as 9th at {{Trn|Umebura 32}}. | *{{Sm|Gackt|Japan}} - Japan's best Ness player in the game's later years and one of the best Ness players in the world in 2018, having become infamous for his offensive usage of PK Thunder 2. His breakout event was at {{Trn|The Big House 7}}, where he defeated {{Sm|ANTi}} and {{Sm|Locus}} to place 17th, and although he remained inconsistent, he nevertheless remained one of Ness's most notable representatives after FOW's inactivity, placing 5th at {{Trn|Rikabura 8}} defeating {{Sm|Abadango}}, as well as 9th at {{Trn|Umebura 32}}. | ||
*{{Sm|NAKAT|USA}} - One of the best Ness players of all-time, co-maining the character alongside {{SSB4|Fox}}. He primarily played Ness to place 7th at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2015}} and 13th at {{Trn|Pound 2016}}, but played more Fox as time went on. However, he once again began focusing on Ness in 2017, most notably using primarily Ness to place 13th at {{Trn|EVO 2017}} and 17th at both {{Trn|GameTyrant Expo 2017}} and {{Trn|2GGC: Fire Emblem Saga}}. He was ultimately ranked 49th on the [[PGR 100]] with both Fox and Ness, the only Ness player in the top 50. | *{{Sm|NAKAT|USA}} - One of the best Ness players of all-time, co-maining the character alongside {{SSB4|Fox}}. He primarily played Ness to place 7th at {{Trn|Super Smash Con 2015}} and 13th at {{Trn|Pound 2016}}, but played more Fox as time went on. However, he once again began focusing on Ness in 2017, most notably using primarily Ness to place 13th at {{Trn|EVO 2017}} and 17th at both {{Trn|GameTyrant Expo 2017}} and {{Trn|2GGC: Fire Emblem Saga}}. He was ultimately ranked 49th on the [[PGR 100]] with both Fox and Ness, the only Ness player in the top 50. | ||
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*{{Sm|S1|Netherlands}} - The best Ness player in Europe, as well as one of Europe's best players overall, ranking 5th on the [[European Smash 4 Power Rankings]]. He regularly made top 8 appearances at European events, which includes some of Europe's largest events such as 7th at {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 6}} and {{Trn|Syndicate 2017}}. Internationally, his best performance was placing 5th at {{Trn|Midwest Mayhem 11}}. | *{{Sm|S1|Netherlands}} - The best Ness player in Europe, as well as one of Europe's best players overall, ranking 5th on the [[European Smash 4 Power Rankings]]. He regularly made top 8 appearances at European events, which includes some of Europe's largest events such as 7th at {{Trn|B.E.A.S.T 6}} and {{Trn|Syndicate 2017}}. Internationally, his best performance was placing 5th at {{Trn|Midwest Mayhem 11}}. | ||
*{{Sm|taranito|Japan}} - Japan's best Ness player in the game's earlier years, placing 5th at {{Trn|Umebura 25}} defeating {{Sm|Tsu}} and 13th at {{Trn|Sumabato for THE BIG HOUSE}} defeating {{Sm|9B}}. Although eventually surpassed by Gackt, taranito remained the second-best Ness player in Japan, with placements such as 17th at both {{Trn|EVO Japan 2018}} and {{Trn|Umebura 34}}. | *{{Sm|taranito|Japan}} - Japan's best Ness player in the game's earlier years, placing 5th at {{Trn|Umebura 25}} defeating {{Sm|Tsu}} and 13th at {{Trn|Sumabato for THE BIG HOUSE}} defeating {{Sm|9B}}. Although eventually surpassed by Gackt, taranito remained the second-best Ness player in Japan, with placements such as 17th at both {{Trn|EVO Japan 2018}} and {{Trn|Umebura 34}}. | ||
*{{Sm|The Great Gonzales|USA}} - Although a known player in Tristate | *{{Sm|The Great Gonzales|USA}} - Although already a known player in Tristate, having defeated {{Sm|ScAtt}} at {{Trn|KTAR XIX}} and placed 9th at {{Trn|Apex 2016}}, he became best known for his run to 5th at {{Trn|Royal Flush}} defeating {{Sm|Mr.E}}, {{Sm|Pink Fresh}}, and {{Sm|WaDi}}. He has since become one of North America's best Ness players, with performances such as 17th at {{Trn|Smash 'N' Splash 3}} and 25th at {{Trn|Frostbite 2018}}, defeating {{Sm|Lima}} in the latter event. | ||
===Tier placement and history=== | ===Tier placement and history=== | ||
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Despite the ups and downs Ness had faced, he is unanimously considered superior to any of his previous incarnations, although several players use secondaries in order to complement the character on a national level. | Despite the ups and downs Ness had faced, he is unanimously considered superior to any of his previous incarnations, although several players use secondaries in order to complement the character on a national level. | ||
==[[Trophies]]== | ==[[Trophies]]== | ||
{{Trophy/Fighter | {{Trophy/Fighter | ||
|name=Ness | |name=Ness | ||
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{{Trophy/Fighter | {{Trophy/Fighter | ||
|name=PK Starstorm (Ness)<ref | |name=PK Starstorm (Ness)<ref group="fs">Simply "PK Starstorm" if {{SSB4|Lucas}} has not been downloaded.</ref> | ||
|image=PKStarstormTrophyWiiU.png | |image=PKStarstormTrophyWiiU.png | ||
|desc=In EarthBound, this PSI ability belonged to Poo, the Crown Prince of Dalaam and one of Ness's friends. Ness must have learned it especially for Smash Bros.! The attack makes a shower of meteors fall onto the stage, damaging any foes it hits. While the attack's in progress, Ness is invincible and can adjust the meteors' trajectory. | |desc=In EarthBound, this PSI ability belonged to Poo, the Crown Prince of Dalaam and one of Ness's friends. Ness must have learned it especially for Smash Bros.! The attack makes a shower of meteors fall onto the stage, damaging any foes it hits. While the attack's in progress, Ness is invincible and can adjust the meteors' trajectory. | ||
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}} | }} | ||
{{clrl}} | {{clrl}} | ||
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<references group="fs"/> | |||
==In [[Event Match]]es== | |||
===Solo Events=== | |||
* '''[[All-Star Battle: Secret]]''': Ness is one of the opponents fought in this event. All opponents are characters that have been unlockable in previous ''Super Smash Bros.'' games. | |||
* '''[[It's Past Your Bedtime!]]''': As {{SSB4|Jigglypuff}}, the player must make Ness, {{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}} and {{SSB4|Toon Link}} fall asleep at the same time by using Sing. | |||
* '''[[Playing Tricks]]''': Ness must bury two {{SSB4|Villager}}s at the same time with [[Pitfall]]s. | |||
===Co-op Events=== | |||
* '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster. | |||
* '''[[Visiting Onett]]''': Ness and {{SSB4|Villager}} must defeat {{SSB4|Kirby}}, {{SSB4|Meta Knight}}, {{SSB4|Fox}}, {{SSB4|Falco}}, {{SSB4|Olimar}}, and {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}. | |||
==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Ness|Alternate costumes]]== | ==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Ness|Alternate costumes]]== |