Editing Ness (SSB)

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{{disambig2|Ness' appearance in ''Super Smash Bros''|the character in other contexts|Ness}}

|name = Ness

|image = [[File:Ness SSB.png]]

|symbol = preBrawl

|game = SSB

|ssbgame1 = SSBM

|ssbgame2 = SSBB

|ssbgame3 = SSB4

|ssbgame4 = SSBU

|tier = C

|tierJP = ?

|ranking = 10

|rankingJP = 5

'''Ness''' ({{ja|ネス|Nesu}}, ''Ness'') is one of the main characters from the {{uv|EarthBound}} franchise and appears in ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' as one of the four [[unlockable character]]s. He is voiced by Makiko Ōmoto, who would go on to voice him in later iterations.

Ness ranks 10th on the [[tier list]], the third lowest ranked character. He is well-known for his unique [[double jump]] and technical movement: he, along with {{SSB|Yoshi}}, can cancel his double jump with an attack, granting him a burst of speed he can use to move and attack extremely quickly. Ness's fast movement combined with his powerful aerials give him a strong and flexible combo game. He's able to both juggle and tech chase his opponent, frequently using his up tilt and up air as launchers to setup a down air spike onto a platform. After building up damage, Ness has many ways to finish opponents, including kill throws, multiple high knockback aerials, and strong smash attacks.

Although his weaknesses are few in number they can be easily exploitable. His long distanced recovery is hindered by being slow, predictable, and easy to interrupt, leaving him one of the easiest characters in the game to [[gimp]]. Although his double jump cancel gives him very fast grounded movement, his slowness in the air can make it very difficult to deal with air camping, especially from characters with strong down aerials like {{SSB|Kirby}} or {{SSB|Jigglypuff}}. The low range of most of his aerials compounds this weakness and can make it difficult to approach characters with better [[disjoint]]. As a result, despite his strengths he has poor matchups and low tournament representation and results. Conversely, Ness is ranked 5th on the Japanese tier list because he is much stronger in the Japanese version, rather than the international release, in which he was [[nerf]]ed.

[[File:SSB64 Congratulations Ness.png|thumb|300px|Ness's [[congratulations screen]].]]

Ness is a fairly small character with below average [[weight]]. He is very slow on the ground with the slowest [[walk]] and [[dash]] speeds (although he does have a fast initial dash) and his air mobility is below average outside of [[double jump cancel]]ing. This naturally gives Ness trouble with approaching, as most of the cast can easily outrun him. Ness also has average [[falling speed]] and [[gravity]].

Ness' tools on the ground are a mixed bag overall. His jab is one of the fastest in the game, which allows it to lead his grab (via a [[jab grab]]) which is quite effective due to the strength of his throws, although both his jab and grab have short range. Up tilt is a solid combo starter which can easily lead to combos at lower percents at KO confirms at higher percents although it has limited horizontal range and it is rather unsafe. Forward tilt and dash attack are situational overall as they are both rather risky and not highly rewarding while down tilt is borderline useless, due to being unsafe on hit at realistic percents. Ness' smash attacks are not the most effective but they are solid overall. Forward smash and up smash are not incredibly strong but they are safe and the latter can lead into combos at some percents, while down smash is fairly powerful, disjointed and lingers for a very long time. Ness does have a strong grab game however. While his grab has a short amount of range, both his forward and back throw are among the strongest in the game, Easily leading to KOes and edgeguards at fairly low percents.

Ness' aerial game is his strongest aspect. Ness has access to double jump canceling, which easily allows him to pressure opponents with his aerials, especially since if the opponent shields an aerial, Ness has the ability to perform a [[shield break combo]] by stringing together double jump canceled aerials on a shielding opponents. In addition to this, all of his aerials are solid on their own. Neutral aerial has decent power and lingers for almost the entire animation, back aerial has a good amount of power and forward aerial is decent at setting up combos and edgeguards, although it is his weakest aerial overall. Ness' best aerials however are his up and down aerials. Up aerial is a disjointed aerial which hits all around Ness and it has strong vertical knockback, which makes it an excellent combo tool at lower percents (especially when combined with double jump canceling) and a solid KO move at higher percents. Down aerial is an incredibly fast and powerful [[meteor smash]], which makes it an incredible edgeguarding tool off stage as well as an excellent combo tool on stage. It can easily set up combos against grounded opponents and it can put aerial opponents into a [[tech chase]] situation where the opponent can potentially get hit by another down aerial to reset the situation.  

Ness unfortunately possesses a poor set of special moves. [[PK Fire]] is a projectile which creates a pillar of fire if it hits an opponent. While this can lead into followups, PK Fire is a slow and laggy projectile, which does not cover a lot of distance. It is easily avoidable and punishable and even if it hits the opponent, they can easily [[SDI]] out of the pillar and even potentially punish Ness. PK Thunder is a projectile which can be controlled and if it hits Ness, he will shoot forwards, travelling a long distance with a powerful hitbox (known as PK Thunder 2). While PK Thunder lasts for a long time and it can be controlled, it is rather laggy and the opponent can hit the PK Thunder to beat it out. If Ness is in the air after PK Thunder is destroyed, he will go into [[helpless|free fall]], which can lead to him falling to the end of his stock off stage. PK Thunder 2 is Ness' main recovery move and while it does travel a long distance and can be angled in any direction, it takes a long time to set up, it can be interrupted during the second half of the dash and if Ness lands after entering free fall, he will have a ton of landing lag, all of which make PK Thunder and PK Thunder 2 an incredibly exploitable recovery move. [[PSI Magnet]] can be used to [[absorb]] projectiles however, it takes a long time to start absorbing projectiles and if Ness does absorb a projectile, he is put in a considerable amount of lag, which can potentially be punished.  

Ness' main strength is his combo and shield pressuring potential. Ness overall has a relatively easy time starting combos at lower percents, especially compared to other low tiers. Ness' up aerial, down aerial and up tilt are all excellent combo tools at lower percents, with the latter two still being strong combo tools at higher percents as well. Moves such as Ness' other aerials and up smash can also be used for combos at some percents. Ness overall does not have too much trouble with KOing his opponent after hitting them at 0%. Ness' double jump cancel in general gives him quick and easy access to his aerials, allowing them to be used as fast and powerful combo starters. This also extends to his shield pressure, as all of his aerials are incredibly safe on shield and his double jump cancel can easily allow his aerials to quickly hit a shielding opponent and put Ness in a spot to throw out another aerial and reset the situation until the shield breaks. Ness also has a jab grab as a strong shield pressuring tool, as well as a strong tool to use as a quick and powerful option when he is in a pressure situation.

Ness has some strong KO options. Ness' down aerial is the overall strongest meteor smash in the game which makes it a devastating move against off stage opponents. Ness can combo into down aerial off stage with an up aerial, up tilt, up smash or a neutral aerial which can all lead to very early KOes. Ness' throws also lead to very early KOes, especially at the ledge and moves such as back aerial, down smash and up aerial are also strong KO moves.

 

Ness also has strong edgeguarding. Down aerial in particular is simultaneously the fastest and strongest meteor smash in the game which along with it having a chunk of active frames and very low ending lag, makes it an absolutely devastating move against off stage opponents as mentioned earlier and with Ness having a long ranged recovery, he can make it back from far distances. Ness also has moves such as neutral/forward/back aerials which are also strong options to get the opponent off stage or to edgeguard.

 

Ness does have rather notable weaknesses however. Ness has very poor mobility and his range is very short which gives him a very hard time approaching. Opponents can easily keep Ness out due to his poor range and mobility and Ness cannot easily keep opponents out himself due to his range and mobility. Opponents can play around Ness' short range and punish him from there. Ness also cannot really camp due to his very slow and overall poor projectiles and while he does have a reflector and an absorption move, they are both very slow and punishable, which makes them very difficult to take advantage of.

 

Ness is also light and has average falling speed/gravity, which both make him a fairly easy character to combo and KO. Ness gets comboed easily at lower percents and dies rather early at higher percents due to his low weight, especially horizontally. He also does not have strong options to get out of combos or juggles. Ness has a slow double jump, he lacks any fully intangible options in the air and his only real options to escape combos are his neutral and down aerials which both have unimpressive range and they easily lose to disjoints.

 

Ness' other major weakness is his recovery. Distance-wise, it can go quite far not only due to PK Thunder 2's long range and ability to be angled but also because of Ness having a long ranged double jump. However, there are multiple downsides to Ness' recovery which make it one of the worst in the game. While Ness' double jump travels a long distance, it is rather slow and Ness has poor air speed, which makes it rather easy for the opponent to hit Ness out of it. Ness also cannot use his aerials to challenge opponents when trying to recover due to his double jump cancel, so his only real option is to try and play around the opponent with his double jump. When Ness has to use PK Thunder, it takes a long time for Ness to be able to set up PK Thunder 2 which gives the opponent time to either hit Ness out of the move or to hit/get hit by the PK Thunder itself, which can easily lead to him losing a stock. Even if Ness does get to use PK Thunder 2, it can be punished if the opponent is not too close to Ness when he activates it. Ness' best bet to recover is to use PK Thunder as low as he can and uses it diagonally to barely get back on stage. This means that various characters cannot challenge the PK Thunder projectile without risking their own stock and if Ness recovers just right, he can [[auto-cancel]] the PK Thunder 2, giving it a lot less lag than normal although this can still be punished. Characters who can go deep for edgeguards like {{SSB|Pikachu}} and {{SSB|Kirby}} however can challenge PK Thunder even from max distance which leaves Ness in a really poor spot against these characters.

 

Overall, Ness is a character who performs well when he gets his game plan going but he struggles when he does not have the advantage. Ness has a strong offensive game with strong aerials and an excellent double jump cancel but he has poor mobility and range, which makes it very difficult for him to land one of his attacks and start his strong punish game and when he ends up offstage, he heavily struggles to get back on stage against a strong opponent. Ness' punish game unfortunately is not strong enough to make up for his poor defence, approach and recovery. This naturally results in Ness having an unspectacular matchups in the North American version. Ness struggles against stronger characters who all outspeed and outrange Ness, with Kirby being considered to be his worst matchup. Kirby can easily outrange Ness with his large/safe disjoints and his incredible edgeguarding is naturally highly detrimental for Ness. Kirby's floaty nature also makes him awkward for Ness to combo while Kirby can combo Ness with ease. It is overall an extremely difficult matchup for Ness at the top level. Ness' matchups against the low tiers are closer, with Ness potentially winning against some of them although not by much.

 

As a result of all of these factors, while Ness was once considered a strong character in the game's early meta due to his strong punish game, he dropped off considerably over time due to the severity of his weaknesses, which ultimately resulted in him being considered to be one of the weakest characters in the game, and subsequently getting below average results and representation in tournaments in the international versions of the game.

 

In the Japanese version however, Ness is considered to be a much stronger character. This is because in the Japanese version, Ness had a stronger combo game (with an up tilt which could combo for much longer) and he had many stronger KO moves (such as all of his smash attacks, up aerial and PK Thunder 2). Ness' combos in general were more consistent and harder to escape due to the lower [[hitlag]]/strength of SDI, which particularly made his combos into down aerial off stage considerably more consistent. Ness also had a better recovery as PK Thunder 2 was not only much stronger but it also had more [[invincibility]], a larger hitbox and more active frames which made it considerably harder and riskier to challenge (although his recovery overall was still very poor). All these factors combined made Ness an even scarier character with an even stronger punish game and a slightly better recovery, with Ness being considered a mid tier in the Japanese version. Ness received a plethora of impactful nerfs in the North American version which pushed him down into the low tier, which was then also carried into the PAL versions.

Ness was noticeably nerfed in his transition to NTSC-U. His disproportionate KO power was weakened, his moves deal less damage and the higher presence of [[SDI]] makes his DJC combos easier to escape. As a result, he is noticeably worse than in the Japanese version.

*{{nerf|Up tilt deals less damage (8% → 7%).}}

*{{nerf|Up tilt has increased base knockback (70 → 80), hindering its combo potential, especially when it is stale.}}

*{{buff|Up tilt launches opponents at a slightly lower angle (96° → 100°).}}

*{{nerf|Forward smash deals less damage (20% → 18%) and has decreased knockback scaling (67 → 65).}}

*{{nerf|Up smash's clean hit deals less damage (19% → 17%) and sends opponents at a less favorable angle (105° → 110°) hindering its KO potential despite its increased base knockback (0 → 20).}}

*{{nerf|Mid and late up smash deal less damage (17% (mid)/14% (late) → 15%/13%) with the mid hit also sending opponents at a less favorable angle (90° → 78°).}}

*{{nerf|Down smash deals less damage (21% → 19%).}}

 

*{{nerf|Up aerial deals 2% less damage (17% → 15%) and has decreased knockback scaling (120 → 110) hindering its KO potential.}}

*{{nerf|Up aerial has a smaller hitbox (190u → 175u).}}

 

*{{buff|[[PK Fire]] deals more damage (2% (fire & pillar) → 7% (fire), 3% (pillar), 16% → 25% (total)).}}  

*{{nerf|[[PK Thunder 2]] deals less damage (35% → 30%) and knockback (50 (base), 100 (scaling) → 40/84).}}

*{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 has a shorter duration (frames 1-28 → 1-18), less [[invincibility]] (frames 1-17 → 1-9), and more landing lag (30 frames → 42).}}

[[File:NESS SSB Air Attacks.PNG|thumb|175px|Ness' aerial attacks.]]

|neutralname=Hook ({{ja|フック|Fukku}}) / Straight ({{ja|ストレート|Sutorēto}}) / Middle Kick ({{ja|ミドルキック|Midoru Kikku}})

|ftiltname=Spinning Kick ({{ja|スピニングキック|Supiningu Kikku}})

|utiltname=Toss ({{ja|トス|Tosu}})

|utiltdmg=7%, 8% (NTSC-J)

|dtiltname=Crouching Kick ({{ja|クラウチングキック|Kurauchingu Kikku}})

|dashname=Hand Stamp ({{ja|ハンドスタンプ|Hando Sutanpu}})

|fsmashname=Batter Up! ({{ja|バットスイング|Batto Suingu}}, ''Bat Swing'')

|fsmashdmg=18%, 20% (NTSC-J)

|fsmashdesc=Home-run swing. Takes out a bat and swings it, making a pinging sound if it connects. Good speed, range, and power. Can also be used as a reflector.

|usmashname=Around the World ({{ja|シャトルループ|Shatoru Rūpu}}, ''Shuttle Loop'')

|usmashdmg=17% (clean), 15% (mid), 13% (late), 19% (NTSC-J clean), 17% (NTSC-J mid), 14% (NTSC-J late),

|usmashdesc=Does an "around the world" yo-yo swing, which acts as a good anti-air move. Strange hitbox, does not hit short characters on ground. Above average speed.

|dsmashname=Walk the Dog ({{ja|ヨーヨーショット|Yōyō Shotto}}, ''Yo-Yo Shot'')

|dsmashdmg=19%, 21% (NTSC-J)

|dsmashdesc=Ness does a "walk the dog" yo-yo swing. Extremely low hitbox, though it has extremely long range and an extremely long duration. Longest horizontal range of all down smashes.

|nairname=Ness Kick ({{ja|ネスキック|Nesu Kikku}})

|fairname=Aerial Hand Stamp ({{ja|空中ハンドスタンプ|Kūchū Hando Sutanpu}}

|bairname=Backward Drop Kick ({{ja|後方ドロップキック|Kōhō Doroppu Kikku}})

|uairname=Jumping Headbutt ({{ja|ジャンピングヘッドバット|Janpingu Heddobatto}})

|uairdmg=15%, 17% (NTSC-J)

|uairdesc=He does a quick and short ranged headbutt above him with good power. Good for juggling. Ness's head is invincible during this attack.

|dairname=Needle Kick ({{ja|ニードルキック|Nīdoru Kikku}})

|grabname=Grab ({{ja|つかみ|Tsukami}})

|fthrowname=PK Throw ({{ja|ＰＫスルー|Pīkei Surū}})

|bthrowname=Reverse PK Throw ({{ja|リバースＰＫスルー|Ribāsu Pīkei Surū}})

|nsdmg=25% maximum, 16% maximum (NTSC-J)

|usdmg=6% (PK Thunder head), 3% (PK Thunder tail), 30% (PK Thunder 2), 35% (NTSC-J PK Thunder 2)

|dsname=Psychic-Magnet

|dspage=PSI Magnet

|dsdmg=0%

|dsdesc=The PSI Magnet is not an attack. Rather, it heals 2.0x damage if an [[energy]] or [[electric]] projectile hits it.

|victory-desc=The final four Sound Stone Melodies from ''[[EarthBound (game)|EarthBound]]''. They also play in the game's credits, ''Smiles and Tears''.

|desc-3=Swings his bat twice to the sides, then poses.

==In [[competitive play]]==

===Most historically significant players===

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*{{Sm|Firo|USA}} - The best Ness player in the United States during the mid-2010s. His best results are 4th at {{Trn|The Empire Smashes Back}} and 5th at {{Trn|SuperBoomed}}, the latter being where he defeated  {{Sm|TR3GTheZ}} and {{Sm|Robert}} and is tied as the highest solo-Ness placement at a major tournament. He has not been seen competing ever since 2017.

*{{Sm|Fray|Canada}} - The current best Ness player in the world. Gained notoriety through his 9th place at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2017}} and online showings during the pandemic such as his 5th place at {{Trn|Quarantined Rapport}} East{{OnlineIcon}}, and then placed 3rd at {{Trn|Crovy Fest}} and 17th at {{Trn|Supernova 2024}}. He is currently ranked 21st on the [[2023 Smash 64 Power Rankings]].

*{{Sm|Nangoku|Japan}} - The best Ness player from Japan and the previous best in the world. He holds some of the best Ness results to this day with regionals such as 5th at {{Trn|Autumn Kanto Tournament}} and 9th at {{Trn|Kansai 2020}} and a major placement of 8th at {{Trn|Apex 2013}}. He has been inactive from tournaments since 2020.

*{{Sm|Raychu|USA}} - One of the best Ness players in the world prior to his death. He was considered the best Ness player during 2019 shown with his placements of 3rd at {{Trn|Shine 2019}} and 7th at {{Trn|Smashtoberfest}}, ultimately being ranked 23rd on the [[2019-2020 Smash 64 Power Rankings]]. Even after 2019, he remained one of the most consistent Ness players, placing 7th at {{Trn|Apex 2022}} and 17th at {{Trn|Supernova 2024}}. He passed away in October of 2024.

*{{Sm|Tokiwa|Japan}} - The second best Ness player in Japan. His 5th place at {{Trn|Kansai 2022}} is the best Ness result seen in the region post-pandemic, beating both {{Sm|Hebiichigo}} and {{Sm|Shizuku}} at the event. He is tied for having the best solo-Ness placement at a major tournament with 5th at {{Trn|Kanto 2017}} and had a streak of nationals during 2017 with 13th at {{Trn|Kansai 2017}} and {{Trn|Japan Smash Cup 2017}}.

Ness used to rank very high at 3rd place on the first ''Smash 64'' tier list, just only below {{SSB|Pikachu}} and {{SSB|Kirby}}. With [[double jump cancelling]], Ness was a dominant force in the ''Smash 64'' metagame, as  his DJC'ed aerials can rack up a huge amount of damage, and can be used to perform deadly [[zero-to-death combo]]s. However, Ness became less effective as the metagame progressed. His short range in his attacks made his DJC combos lose recognition and effectiveness, and Ness' recovery, despite covering a great distance, can be exploitable due to it being predictable. This caused Ness to drop from a top tier 3rd place to a low-mid tier 8th place by the second tier list and dropping again to 9th in the third tier list and by the fourth tier list, to 10th. This is also currently the proportionally largest tier list drop of any character in any ''Smash Bros.'' game. Ness is currently 5th of the Japanese matchups, he is in a higher position due to the fact he is stronger than the international versions.

[[File:Nesslevator.gif|250px|thumb|{{Sm|Nangoku}} performing a double jump land onto the side platform, then quickly attacking {{Sm|Nintendude}}.]]

By double jumping, then immediately canceling the 2nd jump with an aerial when he reaches the height of a platform, Ness can quickly move to platforms.

*On the [[Character selection screen]], Ness's portrait greatly resembles his artwork from ''{{b|EarthBound|game}}''.

*Ness's [[congratulations screen]] is the only one in ''Smash 64'' to feature characters who are otherwise not present anywhere else in the game.

**Additionally, his congratulations screen features the lead singers of the Runaway Five, who appear with their Japanese design from ''EarthBound''. In the Western version of ''EarthBound'', they wore red and green suits.

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