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Ness can also use the electrical ball to hit other opponents, though this is not useful onstage due to the move's lag. However, it can be used to [[gimp]] certain opponents that are recovering a fair distance away from the edge.
Ness can also use the electrical ball to hit other opponents, though this is not useful onstage due to the move's lag. However, it can be used to [[gimp]] certain opponents that are recovering a fair distance away from the edge.


==Hitboxes==
{{technical data}}
{{technical data}}
===PK Thunder===
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Projectile head|24}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=6%
|angle=100
|bk=50
|ks=30
|fkv=0
|r=100
|bn=0
|xpos=?
|ypos=?
|zpos=?
|effect=Electric
|sfx=Shock
|slvl=M
|clang=f
}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Projectile tail|24}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=1
|damage=3%
|angle=100
|bk=50
|ks=30
|fkv=0
|r=100
|bn=0
|xpos=?
|ypos=?
|zpos=?
|effect=Electric
|sfx=Shock
|slvl=M
|clang=f
}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=2
|damage=3%
|angle=100
|bk=50
|ks=30
|fkv=0
|r=100
|bn=0
|xpos=?
|ypos=?
|zpos=?
|effect=Electric
|sfx=Shock
|slvl=M
|clang=f
}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=3
|damage=3%
|angle=100
|bk=50
|ks=30
|fkv=0
|r=100
|bn=0
|xpos=?
|ypos=?
|zpos=?
|effect=Electric
|sfx=Shock
|slvl=M
|clang=f
}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=4
|damage=3%
|angle=100
|bk=50
|ks=30
|fkv=0
|r=100
|bn=0
|xpos=?
|ypos=?
|zpos=?
|effect=Electric
|sfx=Shock
|slvl=M
|clang=f
}}
|}
===PK Thunder 2 (NTSC-J)===
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=35%
|angle=361
|bk=50
|ks=100
|fkv=0
|r=200
|bn=0
|ypos=100
|effect=Electric
|sfx=Shock
|slvl=L
}}
|}
===PK Thunder 2 (NTSC-U/PAL)===
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=30%
|damagebg=nerf
|angle=361
|bk=40
|bkbg=nerf
|ks=84
|ksbg=nerf
|fkv=0
|r=150
|rbg=nerf
|bn=0
|ypos=100
|effect=Electric
|sfx=Shock
|slvl=L
}}
|}
====Summary====
*{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 damage (35% → 30%).}}
*{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 knockback (50 (base), 100 (scaling) → 40/84).}}
*{{nerf|PK Thunder 2 hitbox (200u → 150u).}}
==Timing==
===PK Thunder===
If PK Thunder hits something before its hitboxes end, Ness will immediately go into his ending lag animation which is 45 frames long.
{|class="wikitable"
!Hitboxes
|24-182
|-
!Animation length
|227
|}
{{FrameStripStart}}
|{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=23}}{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=159}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=45}}
|-
|{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=23|e=LagPropS}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=204|s=LagPropE}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
===PK Thunder 2===
{|class="wikitable"
!Hitbox
|1-18
|-
!Invincible
|1-9
|-
!Animation length
|43
|}
{{FrameStripStart}}
|{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=18}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=25}}
|-
|{{FrameStrip|t=Invincible|c=9}}{{FrameStrip|t=Vulnerable|c=34}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
===PK Thunder 2 (NTSC-J)===
{|class="wikitable"
!Hitbox
|1-28
|-
!Invincible
|1-17
|-
!Animation length
|43
|}
{{FrameStripStart}}
|{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=28}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=15}}
|-
|{{FrameStrip|t=Invincible|c=17}}{{FrameStrip|t=Vulnerable|c=26}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
===Landing lag===
{|class="wikitable"
|-
!Animation length
|42
|-
!Animation length (NTSC-J)
|30
|}
{{FrameStripStart}}
|'''NTSC-U/PAL''' {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=42}}
|-
|'''NTSC-J''' {{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=30}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
{{FrameIconLegend|hitbox=y|lag=y|vulnerable=y|invincible=y}}


{{MvSubNavNess|g=SSB}}
{{MvSubNavNess|g=SSB}}

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