Editing Marth (PM)

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|altcostume = [[fireemblemwiki:Sigurd|Sigurd]]'s armor, Hooded Marth (''[[Project+]]'')

'''Marth''' is a playable character in the ''[[Brawl]]'' mod ''[[Project M]]''. He was remade to be nearly identical to his ''Melee'' counterpart in terms of attack hitboxes and animations.  

 

Marth ranks 17th out of 41 on the [[Project M#Tier list|official]] [[tier list]], at the top of the B tier. This is a far drop from his top-tier placements in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', where he ranked 2nd out of 26 and 5th out of 38, respectively. In the ''Project+'' official {{h2|Project+|tier list}}, his position is slightly improved, ranking 11th at the top of the A tier.

Marth has been mostly reverted to his ''Melee'' iteration, with a few buffs, such as a slightly improved recovery, a more reliable hitbox on his up smash, and less lag on his down aerial. He retains his strengths from ''Melee'', such as his disjointed range, fantastic [[spacing]] tools, and great edgeguarding capabilities. However, he still must contend with the same weaknesses, such as his poor horizontal recovery, difficulty landing safely, and lack of a projectile or lingering hitboxes.

 

Compared to ''Melee'', however, Marth is less effective in the metagame due to the large amount of buffs other characters have received to counter the effectiveness of his tools. The [[tournament legal]] stagelist also works against him; while Marth only had some degree of disadvantage in ''Melee'' on {{SSB|Dream Land}}, ''Project M'' introduces similarly large stages such as Delfino Secret that Marth struggles to KO on, while relegating one of his previously best stages, [[Final Destination]], as a counterpick in most rulesets.

Unlike some other high-tier ''Melee'' characters, like {{PM|Jigglypuff}}, Marth overall remains fairly viable in ''Project M'', and is a strong pick for competitive play.

Marth was slightly buffed from ''Melee'' to ''Project M'', receiving a few additional tweaks and fixes to some of his moves to make them more reliable.

 

 

 

His special moves also saw improvements. [[Dancing Blade]]'s hits connect better overall due to the changes to [[stale-move negation]] and [[knockback#Knockback_stacking|knockback stacking]], [[Dolphin Slash]] is now able to grab ledges when facing away and can control its angle with the [[C-Stick]] like ''Brawl'', and [[Counter]] has improved coverage. [[Shield Breaker]], Dancing Blade, and Counter, also all retain their ability to be [[B-reverse]]d/wavebounced from ''Brawl''. 

 

Overall, however, aside from changes regarding mechanics and angle alterations, most of which benefit him, Marth remains relatively unchanged compared to the other top-tier characters in ''Melee'', with the few nerfs he received being largely negligible.

 

*{{buff|The changes to ledge jumps now allowing characters to be actionable sooner benefits Marth, as he now has an additional viable way of getting off the ledge, one of his main weaknesses in ''Melee'', while Marth himself is not particularly hindered by other characters being able to use it against him, due to his relatively high jump and large disjointed hitboxes being able to catch opponents off of ledge easily.}}

**{{buff|The second hit has a longer duration (frame 4-8 → 4-9).}}

**{{nerf|It has slightly more ending lag (FAF 40 → 41).}}

**{{buff|Dash attack can now be cancelled, allowing Marth to [[DACUS]]. This makes up smash a much better approach and followup option, as his DACUS is one of the longest in ''Project M''.}}

**{{change|Tippered down smash now uses the burn sound effect on hit instead of the [[slash]] sound effect, matching his other tippered smash attacks.}}  

*{{buff|The ability to interrupt aerials with [[air dodging]] from ''Brawl'' notably benefits Marth, as he can now perfectly [[waveland]] out of his forward and back aerials when done out of a short hop, improving their spacing potential.}}

**{{buff|It deals 0.09% more damage if both hits connect (13.91% → 14%), due to the changes to [[stale-move negation]].}}

**{{buff|Forward aerial has a slightly altered animation where Marth does not lean his legs forward as much while maintaining the same swing arch and reach as ''Melee'', making his hurtbox less vulnerable in front of him, and relatively increasing the move's already impressive range.}}

**{{buff|Back aerial now has an initial [[auto-cancel]] window from frames 1-5 like in ''Brawl''.}}

*[[Down aerial]]:

**{{buff|Down aerial has less landing lag (32/16 frames → 25/12), noticeably improving its safety and follow-up potential.}}

**{{nerf|Down aerial has a slightly shorter initial auto-cancel window and auto-cancels slightly later (frames 1-5 (initial)/frame 48 → 1-4/49).}}

 

**{{buff| Marth's already impressive standing grab range is positioned slightly lower and farther (y offset: 8.20u/7.81u/7.42u → 9.43u/8.98u/8.54u, z offset: 12.88u/9.76u/7.03u → 14.82u/11.23u/8.09u), slightly improving its horizontal reach, and making its innermost grabbox slightly less prone to being low-profiled by smaller characters.}}

**{{nerf|Dash grab's hitbox placements have been altered, and has lost one of its inner hitboxes (y offset: 7.4214u/7.0308u/6.6402u/6.6402u → 7.6u/7.17u/7.17u, z offset: 14.0616u/9.765u/5.4684u/1.5624u → 10.55u/5.9u/1.69u). This overall reduces its horizontal range, especially behind Marth.}}

**{{nerf|Compared to ''Brawl'', Marth's pivot grab has an altered animation, where Marth reaches higher, more closely resembling his dash grab animation in ''Melee''. The grabboxes are smaller with the grabbox behind him being removed (4u/4u/4u → 3.91u/3.91u), reducing it is horizontal range combined with its new animation, despite the grabboxes being positioned further away from Marth (z offset: -15u/-6.5u → -16u/-8.09u).}}

**{{nerf|The remaining grabboxes on Marth's pivot grab have been repositioned higher (y offset: 5u/6u → 8.54u/8.09u). Combined with its altered animation, this makes it more prone to being low-profiled by smaller characters.}}

*{{change|Marth vocalizes as he throws his opponent for all of his throws, rather than as soon as their animations start.}}

*{{buff|Marth benefits from the changes to grabs no longer negating horizontal momentum against characters with low traction, as it noticeably improves [[forward throw]]'s followup and [[chain grab]]bing potential when [[jump-canceled grab]]bed, combined with his standing grab's slightly longer reach.}}

**{{nerf|Marth retains his edge attack animations from ''Brawl''. As a result, Marth's fast edge attack has a longer animation (54 frames → 55), while his slow edge attack has more startup lag (frame 38 → 44). The different animations also noticeably hinder the moves' coverage in front of and above Marth.}}

**{{buff|Both edge attacks no longer deal set knockback (90 (set)/100 (scaling) → 70 (base)/50).}}

*{{buff|[[Shield Breaker]], [[Dancing Blade]], and [[Counter]] all retain their ability to be [[B-reverse]]d/wavebounced from ''Brawl'', improving their mixup potential and accuracy.}}

**{{change|Shield Breaker uses its ''Brawl'' sounds effects, with Marth additionally only vocalizing when the move is fully charged.}}

*[[Dancing Blade]]:

***{{nerf|Each variant deals less damage (10% → 9% (forward), 6% → 5% (up), 12% → 11% (down)), with their knockback scaling compensated (160 → 176 (forward), 60 → 68 (up), 100 → 107 (down)).}}

***{{nerf|Each variant deals less damage (14% → 13% (forward), 10% → 9% (up), 5% → 3% (down)), with their knockback scaling compensated (120 → 128 (forward), 130 → 141 (up), 130 → 175 (down final hit)).}}

**{{buff|The changes to stale-move negation and [[knockback#Knockback_stacking|knockback stacking]] make Dancing Blade's hits connect more reliably. The changes to the former mechanic also improve Dancing Blade's potential damage output if all sequences connect, despite the third and fourth variants' lower damage.}}

**{{buff|Dolphin Slash can now grab edges at the height of the jump when Marth is facing away from it, improving his recovery potential.}}

**{{buff|Dolphin Slash retains its ability to control its angle with the [[C-Stick]] from ''Brawl'', improving his recovery and mixup potential.}}[https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VEVRiUb4PA8&t=2846s]

**{{nerf|Counter has a higher hitlag multiplier (1× → 1.2×), making it easier to DI.}}

'''v2.5b'''

*{{change|Walk, dash, and run animations adjusted to more closely match ''Melee'''s.}}

*{{change|Sword trails altered to more closely match ''Melee'''s.}}

*{{buff|The tipper hitbox of up smash has been moved up (Z offset: 0u → 6u), now properly covering the entire tip of the sword, making the tipper much easier to land}}

*{{change|Forward and down aerial's animation slightly adjusted to more closely match ''Melee''.}}

*{{change|Dancing Blade has added overlayed color effects like ''Melee''.}}

'''v2.6b'''

*{{change|Standing grab animation adjusted to more closely match ''Melee'''s.}}

*{{change|Pivot grab animation adjusted to better match its range.}}

*{{change|Dancing Blade does not continue by using the c-stick unless set to special.}}

 

 

*{{bugfix|Exploit fixed that altered Marth's vertical mobility during Dolphin Slash ending lag.}}

==Changes from ''PM'' to ''P+''==

Marth received small buffs and fixes in the transition to ''Project+'', although his down aerial and back throw received slightly more landing and ending lag respectively, albeit both still less than in ''Melee''.

===Attributes===

*{{bugfix|Fixed a bug where Marth's [[get-up attack]] while facing up started a frame late.}}

 

 

 

 

**{{buff|Counterattack's intangibility frames were increased to fully cover when the hitbox is active (frames 1-8 → 1-9).}}

| Dragon Killer || {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|14}}/{{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|20}}|| Rotates body counter-clockwise with a strong arc-like one-handed swing from his head to the ground. Very fast start-up, good horizontal and vertical reach, but has noticeable ending lag. The tip can KO at closer distances to the blast lines as early as 75% on lightweights and 90% on heavyweights due its very high base knockback.  

| Justice Sword || {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|8}} (sides), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|15}} (blade), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSBM|18}} (tip) || A quick, direct upward thrust. The move has very weak sourspots next to Marth if used on the ground, so it is not a reliable KO move on grounded enemies next to Marth, but it can act as a surprise KO option on enemies directly above him in the air or on platforms. KOs as early as 80% on lightweights and 105% on heavyweights at the tip of the sword.  

| About Face || 9% (body), 10% (blade), 13% (tip) || Slashes his sword from bottom to top behind him in an inward swipe. This move has the interesting property of turning Marth around when used successfully while airborne.

| [[Counter]] || 7% || Assumes a defensive stance and retaliates against incoming attacks. The damage and knockback of the attack will always be the same, regardless on what attack is being countered.

===Most historically significant players===

 

*{{Sm|Jagz$|USA}} - Currently one of the best players in Florida and one of the best active Marth players. Was ranked 41st on [[PMRank 2022]]. Placed 2nd at {{Trn|Undertow 2023}} with solo Marth.

*{{Sm|Jonsch|Germany}} - One of the best players in Europe.

*{{Sm|Lunchables|USA}} - One of the best Marth players while also playing {{PM|Roy}}, {{PM|Toon Link}} and {{PM|Meta Knight}}. Ranked 3rd on [[PMRank 2023]], and has ranked as high as 2nd on [[PMRank 2016]] primarily using Marth and Roy.

*{{Sm|Rongunshu|Canada}} - Co-mains Marth and {{PM|Lucario}}. Ranked #4 on [[PMRank 2023]] and won {{Trn|Mile High Club}} with solo Marth.

Marth’s light blue costume was replaced by a purple costume, so his default costume is now used for the blue team like in ''Melee''. 3.5 included a set of alternate costumes based off {{s|fireemblem|Sigurd}} from ''{{s|fireemblem|Fire Emblem: Genealogy of the Holy War}}'', which includes recolors for team battle.  

 

|colspan=8|[[File:Marth Palette (PM).png|frame|center|Marth's alternate costumes in ''PM'']]

*The red costume is based on {{s|fireemblem|Eldigan}}, one of Sigurd's closest friends.

*The green costume is based on {{s|fireemblem|Quan}}, Sigurd's other close friend.

*The blue costume is loosely based on either {{s|fireemblem|Seliph}}, Sigurd's son, or {{s|fireemblem|Byron}}, his father.

 

 

 

 

 

*Marth's alternate outfit contains a locket with a picture of {{s|fireemblemwiki|Caeda}}, Marth's significant other in the ''Fire Emblem'' series.

*[https://www.reddit.com/r/SSBPM/comments/mmvpn8/labbing_discord_results_marth/ Labbing Discord Tech Post]