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The [[LumiRank]] ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'' [[tier list]] was published more than one year after the end of the final balance patch, [[List of updates (SSBU)/13.0.1 changelog|patch 13.0.1]]. All versions of the list are as follows. | The [[LumiRank]] ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'' [[tier list]] was published more than one year after the end of the final balance patch, [[List of updates (SSBU)/13.0.1 changelog|patch 13.0.1]]. All versions of the list are as follows. | ||
==First tier list (February | ==First tier list (February 24, 2023)== | ||
{{UltimateTiers/1}} | {{UltimateTiers/1}} | ||
This is the first tier list released by [[LumiRank]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/UltRankSSB/status/1629218378182279168]</ref><ref>[https://blog.start.gg/ultranks-first-official-ssbu-tier-list-4a35bf3dcfc3]</ref> Players were eligible to be a panelist if they were ranked in the Top 101 of six global rankings for the majority of 2022: [[UltRank 2022]], [[OrionRank 2022]], [https://ssbdatarankings.wordpress.com/2023/01/05/echorank-ultimate-2022-final-ranking-and-analysis/ EchoRank 2022], [https://omegarank.com/ ΩRank 2022], [https://omegarank.com/category/2022-full-year/ 1000Rank 2022], and [https://raccoonstats.wordpress.com/category/rankings/raccrank-22-v-3/ RaccRank 2022]. Out of 155 eligible players, 71 players participated as panelists, with panelists from every major ''Ultimate'' region around the world. Panelists were asked to rate characters from 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest and 1 being the lowest. Panelists were also asked to give an ordered list of their Top 5 characters, and after panelist responses were normalized, their Top 5 would be scored from as 10.X (from 10.5 to 10.1). Each character's highest and lowest 3 responses were then removed. To avoid higher or lower participation from different regions from biasing the list, responses were weighted by region according to each region's representation on OrionRank 2022. Finally, tiers were split up by {{s|wikipedia|K-means clustering}}. | This is the first tier list released by [[LumiRank]].<ref>[https://twitter.com/UltRankSSB/status/1629218378182279168]</ref><ref>[https://blog.start.gg/ultranks-first-official-ssbu-tier-list-4a35bf3dcfc3]</ref> Players were eligible to be a panelist if they were ranked in the Top 101 of six global rankings for the majority of 2022: [[UltRank 2022]], [[OrionRank 2022]], [https://ssbdatarankings.wordpress.com/2023/01/05/echorank-ultimate-2022-final-ranking-and-analysis/ EchoRank 2022], [https://omegarank.com/ ΩRank 2022], [https://omegarank.com/category/2022-full-year/ 1000Rank 2022], and [https://raccoonstats.wordpress.com/category/rankings/raccrank-22-v-3/ RaccRank 2022]. Out of 155 eligible players, 71 players participated as panelists, with panelists from every major ''Ultimate'' region around the world. Panelists were asked to rate characters from 1 to 10, with 10 being the highest and 1 being the lowest. Panelists were also asked to give an ordered list of their Top 5 characters, and after panelist responses were normalized, their Top 5 would be scored from as 10.X (from 10.5 to 10.1). Each character's highest and lowest 3 responses were then removed. To avoid higher or lower participation from different regions from biasing the list, responses were weighted by region according to each region's representation on OrionRank 2022. Finally, tiers were split up by {{s|wikipedia|K-means clustering}}. Interestingly, the numerical ordering has been inverted from the tier lists of previous games, as the best characters now have the highest numbers instead of the lowest numbers. | ||
{{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}} was voted as the entire team instead of individually, as were {{SSBU|Pyra}} and {{SSBU|Mythra}}. Miis were ranked, unlike the [[List of SSB4 tier lists#Fourth tier list (December 11, 2017)|last ''SSB4'' tier list]]. Additionally, the following [[Echo Fighter]] pairs were voted together due to their lack of significant differences: {{SSBU|Peach}} and {{SSBU|Daisy}}, {{SSBU|Simon}} and {{SSBU|Richter}}, {{SSBU|Samus}} and {{SSBU|Dark Samus}}, and {{SSBU|Pit}} and {{SSBU|Dark Pit}}. Although {{SSBU|Min Min}} and {{SSBU|Palutena}} appeared to have the same score, they differed past the 3 decimal places shown. | {{SSBU|Pokémon Trainer}} was voted as the entire team instead of individually, as were {{SSBU|Pyra}} and {{SSBU|Mythra}}. Miis were ranked, unlike the [[List of SSB4 tier lists#Fourth tier list (December 11, 2017)|last ''SSB4'' tier list]]. Additionally, the following [[Echo Fighter]] pairs were voted together due to their lack of significant differences: {{SSBU|Peach}} and {{SSBU|Daisy}}, {{SSBU|Simon}} and {{SSBU|Richter}}, {{SSBU|Samus}} and {{SSBU|Dark Samus}}, and {{SSBU|Pit}} and {{SSBU|Dark Pit}}. Although {{SSBU|Min Min}} and {{SSBU|Palutena}} appeared to have the same score, they differed past the 3 decimal places shown. | ||
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{{SSBU|Steve}} was ranked as the #1 character by 41 out of 71 panelists, with multiple other panelists ranking {{SSBU|Sonic}}, {{SSBU|Joker}}, Pyra and Mythra, or {{SSBU|Fox}} as #1. Pyra and Mythra were ranked as the #2 character the most, and was the most agreed upon among panelists, having the lowest standard deviation. {{SSBU|Ganondorf}} was given the lowest score by 54 out of 68 panelists, and {{SSBU|Little Mac}} and Ganondorf had the largest gap between two consecutive characters on the tier list. Pyra and Mythra, Steve, Joker, {{SSBU|Ryu}}, and {{SSBU|Captain Falcon}} had the lowest standard deviations, while {{SSBU|Pikachu}}, {{SSBU|Mii Swordfighter}}, {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}}, {{SSBU|Luigi}}, and {{SSBU|Lucario}} had the greatest standard deviations. | {{SSBU|Steve}} was ranked as the #1 character by 41 out of 71 panelists, with multiple other panelists ranking {{SSBU|Sonic}}, {{SSBU|Joker}}, Pyra and Mythra, or {{SSBU|Fox}} as #1. Pyra and Mythra were ranked as the #2 character the most, and was the most agreed upon among panelists, having the lowest standard deviation. {{SSBU|Ganondorf}} was given the lowest score by 54 out of 68 panelists, and {{SSBU|Little Mac}} and Ganondorf had the largest gap between two consecutive characters on the tier list. Pyra and Mythra, Steve, Joker, {{SSBU|Ryu}}, and {{SSBU|Captain Falcon}} had the lowest standard deviations, while {{SSBU|Pikachu}}, {{SSBU|Mii Swordfighter}}, {{SSBU|Piranha Plant}}, {{SSBU|Luigi}}, and {{SSBU|Lucario}} had the greatest standard deviations. | ||
As listed in the header, this tier list was created in February 2023, over four years after the game launched. The reason for this delay are due to several factors. The first and main reason is that the [[COVID-19 pandemic]] shut down offline tournaments for a long time and forced players to play online, which significantly altered and skewed data, forcing tier list makers to consider the new outcomes that come with online play. | As listed in the header, this tier list was created in February 2023, over four years after the game launched. The reason for this delay are due to several factors. The first and main reason is that the game received frequent character balance changes until version 13.0.1, which was released in December 2021. To avoid making tier lists as frequent as the updates like what happened with ''Smash 4'', the community agreed to wait until a significant amount of time after active development sunsetted to seriously discuss the making of a tier list. Another reason is that the [[COVID-19 pandemic]] shut down offline tournaments for a long time and forced players to play online, which significantly altered and skewed data, forcing tier list makers to consider the new outcomes that come with online play. A third reason is that an "official" tier list maker could not be decided on. Due to [[SmashBoards]] generally falling out of favor as the premier location for ''Smash'' discourse after the release of ''Ultimate'', many alternatives were proposed. Several organizations suggested they be the organizer of the first tier list, while others suggested getting rid of the traditional panel ranking in favor of raw community statistics. Some even questioned if a tier list for ''Ultimate'' was feasible or even necessary given its large roster and it generally being regarded as well-balanced. | ||
Data aggregation organization [[PG Stats]] was the first to announce they would be making a tier list, as they did with the official ''Melee'' tier list starting in 2021, and promised to present what they created at some point in late 2022 to early 2023. However, several controversies and a company-wide exodus from parent company {{Team|Panda}} caused these plans to be canceled. LumiRank then stepped in a few months later and is now considered the official tier list maker for ''Ultimate'' going forward. | Data aggregation organization [[PG Stats]] was the first to announce they would be making a tier list, as they did with the official ''Melee'' tier list starting in 2021, and promised to present what they created at some point in late 2022 to early 2023. However, several controversies and a company-wide exodus from parent company {{Team|Panda}} caused these plans to be canceled. LumiRank then stepped in a few months later and is now considered the official tier list maker for ''Ultimate'' going forward. | ||
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==Second tier list (February 15th, 2024)== | ==Second tier list (February 15th, 2024)== | ||
{{UltimateTiers}} | {{UltimateTiers}} | ||
This is the second tier list released by [[LumiRank]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://luminosity.gg/news/smash-ultimates-2nd-official-tier-list|title=Smash Ultimate's 2nd Official Tier List}}</ref> The methodology remained largely the same from the first. Any player ranked on the [[LumiRank Mid-Year 2023]] or [[LumiRank 2023]] | This is the second tier list released by [[LumiRank]].<ref>{{cite web|url=https://luminosity.gg/news/smash-ultimates-2nd-official-tier-list|title=Smash Ultimate's 2nd Official Tier List}}</ref> The methodology remained largely the same from the first. Any player ranked on the [[LumiRank Mid-Year 2023]] or [[LumiRank 2023]] were eligible to vote, and 62 players ultimately submitted a ballot, although two were tossed out due to scoring less than five characters, while one other was tossed for being a troll ballot. Not every character was scored by every panelist: only {{SSBU|Bayonetta}}, {{SSBU|Fox}}, {{SSBU|Palutena}}, {{SSBU|Peach}}/{{SSBU|Daisy}}, {{SSBU|Pyra}}/{{SSBU|Mythra}}, {{SSBU|R.O.B.}}, {{SSBU|Shulk}}, {{SSBU|Steve}}, and {{SSBU|Wolf}} were scored by every panelist, while {{SSBU|Mii Swordfighter}} was scored by the least (55). | ||
A new tier was introduced (E tier) for this tier list. Despite that, the tiers themselves were not explicitly defined, making this the first list without the normal terminology. | |||
==Tier list chart== | ==Tier list chart== | ||
This table shows the ranks of each character through all of the tier lists, as well as a numbered description of their change in rank each time. "Change" lists how much a character's position changed between the two tier lists it is in between. "Highest" represents a character's highest position, "Lowest" represents their lowest position, and "Difference" lists the difference between the highest and lowest position. "Overall change" represents a character's change between the first tier list and the current tier list. | This table shows the ranks of each character through all of the tier lists, as well as a numbered description of their change in rank each time. "Change" lists how much a character's position changed between the two tier lists it is in between. "Highest" represents a character's highest position, "Lowest" represents their lowest position, and "Difference" lists the difference between the highest and lowest position. "Overall change" represents a character's change between the first tier list and the current tier list. | ||
==See also== | ==See also== | ||
