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The [[Smash Back Room]] '''[[tier list]]''' has changed many times since its inception. Previous versions of the list are as follows. In later tier lists, characters are broadly ranked by their tier, and further ranked by the order in which characters are listed within the tier list. For instance, {{SSBM| | The [[Smash Back Room]] '''[[tier list]]''' has changed many times since its inception. Previous versions of the list are as follows. In later tier lists, characters are broadly ranked by their tier, and further ranked by the order in which characters are listed within the tier list. For instance, {{SSBM|Falco}} is ranked above {{SSBM|Samus}} in the [[#Fourth tier list (July 1, 2003)|fourth ''Melee'' tier list]]. Earlier tier lists use numerical rankings, and characters with the same numerical value are listed alphabetically. [[Smasher:Prog|Prog]] hinted that a new ''Melee'' tier list is going to be released in early 2015<ref>http://ask.fm/askprog/answer/122669278829</ref>, which was actually in the voting process during June 2015, although the "final" draft of the eleventh tier list has no specific release date as of October 2, 2015. | ||
==First tier list (October 8, 2002)== | ==First tier list (October 8, 2002)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/1}} | {{MeleeTiers/1}} | ||
Though this was the first tier list, [[SmashBoards]] was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages". The term "F/F/S" (short for "{{SSBM|Falco}}, {{SSBM|Fox}} and {{SSBM|Sheik}}") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier | Though this was the first tier list, [[SmashBoards]] was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages". The term "F/F/S" (short for "{{SSBM|Falco}}, {{SSBM|Fox}} and {{SSBM|Sheik}}") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier. Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards {{SSBM|Roy}} and {{SSBM|Link}}, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest characters. | ||
Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low- or even middle-tier character and were bothered that it, despite its great [[recovery]] and powerful [[throw]]s, was placed at the bottom of the tier list, where most people believed Bowser or Pichu belonged. | Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low- or even middle-tier character and were bothered that it, despite its great [[recovery]] and powerful [[throw]]s, was placed at the bottom of the tier list, where most people believed Bowser or Pichu belonged. | ||
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==Third tier list (June 23, 2003)== | ==Third tier list (June 23, 2003)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/3}} | {{MeleeTiers/3}} | ||
This tier list was released soon after | This tier list was released soon after [[Smasher:Ken Hoang|Ken Hoang]] won [[Tournament Go|Tournament Go 4]]. Before Ken, {{SSBM|Marth}} strategy largely encompassed [[rolling]] and [[C-stick]] [[smash attack|smashing]] symptomatic of low-level play today, but Ken introduced to the community the uses of [[dash-dancing]], [[chain grab|chain throwing]] and [[aerial attack]]s, all techniques that largely improved Marth's [[metagame]] and moved him to top tier for years to come. Ken's focus on aerial combat also caused significant movement for some characters; {{SSBM|Zelda}}, for instance, fell from 14 to 20. | ||
This is the first tier list that officially ranks characters into tiers. | This is the first tier list that officially ranks characters into tiers. | ||
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{{MeleeTiers/4}} | {{MeleeTiers/4}} | ||
This tier list has an interesting property: had the number of tiers and number of characters in each tier remained the same as the previous list, no characters would have moved from one tier to another. The fourth tier list was released | This tier list has an interesting property: had the number of tiers and number of characters in each tier remained the same as the previous list, no characters would have moved from one tier to another. The fourth tier list was released 7 days after the third one. | ||
==Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)== | ==Fifth tier list (September 29, 2003)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/5}} | {{MeleeTiers/5}} | ||
In this list, {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} jumped up four places. This remains the only official tier list where {{SSBM|Fox}} | In this list, {{SSBM|Captain Falcon}} jumped up four places. This remains the only official tier list where {{SSBM|Fox}} is not in the top 2 of the list. {{SSBM|Ice Climbers}} and {{SSBM|Donkey Kong}} dropped to 18th and 22nd respectively, the lowest they have ever been. | ||
==April Fools' Sixth tier list (March 31, 2004)== | ==April Fools' Sixth tier list (March 31, 2004)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/6AF}} | {{MeleeTiers/6AF}} | ||
This tier list doubled as an April Fools' joke and a lesson to the community to not blindly swallow the Melee Back Room tier list as the truth. Though most people suspected this tier list was a hoax, it | This tier list doubled as an April Fools' joke and a lesson to the community to not blindly swallow the Melee Back Room tier list as the truth. Though most people suspected this tier list was a hoax, it set a precedent to criticizing the tier list that had not existed before. | ||
set a precedent to criticizing the tier list that had not existed before. | |||
To defend this hoax during the two tumultuous days it was the official tier list, Melee Back Room members provided rebuttals to most criticisms of the list: {{SSBM|Marth}} and {{SSBM|Peach}} were too slow to remain in the top tiers; {{SSBM|Link}}, {{SSBM|Roy}}, and {{SSBM|Luigi}} had untapped aerial prowess; and that Mewtwo's throwing game was too effective to keep it in the bottom tiers. Most notably, the Back Room claimed that {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, through its aerial speed and the [[Wall of Pain]], ruled the air to the point of domination. Years later, this then-outrageous claim would become true in the post- | To defend this hoax during the two tumultuous days it was the official tier list, Melee Back Room members provided rebuttals to most criticisms of the list: {{SSBM|Marth}} and {{SSBM|Peach}} were too slow to remain in the top tiers; {{SSBM|Link}}, {{SSBM|Roy}}, and {{SSBM|Luigi}} had untapped aerial prowess; and that Mewtwo's throwing game was too effective to keep it in the bottom tiers. Most notably, the Back Room claimed that {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, through its aerial speed and the [[Wall of Pain]], ruled the air to the point of domination. Years later, this then-outrageous claim would become true in the post-Brawl metagame. | ||
The Melee Back Room forgot to include {{SSBM|Yoshi}} in this tier list; once people realized he was missing (six hours after the list was posted), the MBR put him in at 16th. | The Melee Back Room forgot to include {{SSBM|Yoshi}} in this tier list; once people realized he was missing (six hours after the list was posted), the MBR put him in at 16th. | ||
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{{MeleeTiers/7}} | {{MeleeTiers/7}} | ||
Four significant changes: the Ice Climbers rose from 15th to 12th, Pikachu fell from 14th to 17th, Donkey Kong rose five places from 21st to 16th and Dr. Mario rose to 9th, ranking higher than the character he is a clone of, Mario. | |||
==Eighth tier list (July 8, 2006)== | ==Eighth tier list (July 8, 2006)== | ||
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==Ninth tier list (October 14, 2008)== | ==Ninth tier list (October 14, 2008)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/9}} | {{MeleeTiers/9}} | ||
For the first time since December 2002, the Smash Back Room published each character's numerical scores. This tier list was originally intended to be the final tier list for ''Melee'', with the expectation being that players would move over to ''Brawl'' and result in the ''Melee'' metagame becoming static, similar to the tier lists for the original ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' | For the first time since December 2002, the Smash Back Room published each character's numerical scores. This tier list was originally intended to be the final tier list for ''Melee'', with the expectation being that players would move over to ''Brawl'' and result in the ''Melee'' metagame becoming static, similar to the tier lists for the original ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' However, ''Melee''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s tournament scene remained strong even as ''Brawl''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s tournament scene grew and ''Melee'''s metagame experienced drastic changes (such as Jigglypuff dominating as well as or more than the top-tier characters); as a result, the tier list ultimately did change several times even after this supposed "final" revision. | ||
==Original tenth tier list (September 14, 2010)== | ==Original tenth tier list (September 14, 2010)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/10Beta}} | {{MeleeTiers/10Beta}} | ||
This list was originally publicized as the tenth tier list despite having qualities that made it seem incomplete or rushed in some way. It was heavily criticized for its very large number of ties - it has not only the most ties of any tier list, but the biggest tie, involving the entire Negligible tier. In addition, this list was claimed to have been mostly the work of the single user {{sm|KirbyKaze}}, which was then slightly modified by the Back Room. Likely spurred by the topical [[Master Hand glitch]] | This list was originally publicized as the tenth tier list despite having qualities that made it seem incomplete or rushed in some way. It was heavily criticized for its very large number of ties - it has not only the most ties of any tier list, but the biggest tie, involving the entire Negligible tier. In addition, this list was claimed to have been mostly the work of the single user {{sm|KirbyKaze}}, which was then slightly modified by the Back Room. Likely spurred by the topical [[Master Hand glitch]], the Back Room also included a "Gengar" tier in the list as a joke, where "Master Hand and other glitches" are placed. | ||
Despite this, however, Mewtwo and Jigglypuff have risen significantly from the previous tier lists, with Jigglypuff now in the top tier alongside both [[Star Fox]] characters (marking the first appearance of a [[floaty]] character in the top tier of Melee's metagame since Peach in the fourth tier list) and Mewtwo being a whopping 5 places above its previous best. This is the only tier list to include a tier below the Bottom tier. | |||
==Tenth tier list (December 31, 2010)== | ==Tenth tier list (December 31, 2010)== | ||
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==Eleventh tier list (July 26th, 2013)== | ==Eleventh tier list (July 26th, 2013)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers | {{MeleeTiers}} | ||
This is the eleventh | This is the eleventh Melee tier list, based on votes from various smashers. The biggest rise on the list was {{SSBM|Yoshi}} moving up three places. {{SSBM|Pikachu}} and {{SSBM|Young Link}} both moved up two places. Young Link now ranks higher than {{SSBM|Link}} for the first time, joining {{SSBM|Dr. Mario}} as clones who are ranked higher than their original characters. {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSBM|Ganondorf}}, and {{SSBM|Donkey Kong}} each dropped two places. {{SSBM|Kirby}} is now at the very bottom of the list. | ||
The biggest rise on the list was {{SSBM|Yoshi}} moving up three places. {{SSBM|Pikachu}} and {{SSBM|Young Link}} both moved up two places. Young Link now ranks higher than {{SSBM|Link}} for the first time, joining {{SSBM|Dr. Mario}} as clones who are ranked higher than their original characters. {{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSBM|Ganondorf}}, and {{SSBM|Donkey Kong}} each dropped two places. {{SSBM|Kirby}} is now at the very bottom of the list. | |||
The MBR decided to organize the characters into more general categories instead of rigid tiers. The S tier consists of characters who are generally always tournament viable and can consistently place high in significant tournaments. The A tier consists of semi-viable characters who can place high in very competent hands, but have significant disadvantages that keep them from consistently placing high in significant tournaments. The B tier consists of characters who may have situational use, but are generally not viable for tournament use and will probably never place high when used alone, even in minor tournaments. Lastly, the F tier consists of characters who are never viable in tournament play. | The MBR decided to organize the characters into more general categories instead of rigid tiers. The S tier consists of characters who are generally always tournament viable and can consistently place high in significant tournaments. The A tier consists of semi-viable characters who can place high in very competent hands, but have significant disadvantages that keep them from consistently placing high in significant tournaments. The B tier consists of characters who may have situational use, but are generally not viable for tournament use and will probably never place high when used alone, even in minor tournaments. Lastly, the F tier consists of characters who are never viable in tournament play. | ||
==Twelfth tier list (December 10th, 2015)== | ==Twelfth tier list (December 10th, 2015)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers}} | {{MeleeTiers}} | ||
This is the '''[[tier list|current ''Melee'' tier list]]'''. | |||
This is the | |||
==Tier list chart== | ==Tier list chart== | ||
This table shows the ranks of each character through all of the tier lists, as well as a numbered description of their change in rank each time. "Change" lists how much a character's position changed between the two tier lists it is in between. "Highest" represents a character's highest position, "Lowest" represents their lowest position, and "Difference" lists the difference between the highest and lowest position. "Overall change" represents a character's change between the first tier list and the current tier list. The mode version of the 2nd tier list, the April Fools tier list, and the original 10th tier list are not included in this chart. | This table shows the ranks of each character through all of the tier lists, as well as a numbered description of their change in rank each time. "Change" lists how much a character's position changed between the two tier lists it is in between. "Highest" represents a character's highest position, "Lowest" represents their lowest position, and "Difference" lists the difference between the highest and lowest position. "Overall change" represents a character's change between the first tier list and the current tier list. The mode version of the 2nd tier list, the April Fools tier list, and the original 10th tier list are not included in this chart. | ||
{|class="wikitable sortable" | {|class="wikitable sortable collapsible collapsed" | ||
!Character | !Character | ||
! | !1st tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !2nd tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !3rd tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !4th tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !5th tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !6th tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !7th tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !8th tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !9th tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !10th tier list | ||
! | !Change | ||
! | !11th tier list | ||
! | !Highest | ||
!Lowest | |||
!Difference | |||
!Overall change | |||
! | |||
! | |||
! | |||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM|Fox}}||2 ( | |{{SSBM|Fox}}||2-3 (tie)||0/+1||2||0||2||0||2||-1||3||+1||2||0||2||+1||1||0||1||0||1||0||'''1'''||1||3||2||+1/2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Falco}}||2-3 (tie)||-1/0||3||0||3||-2||5||0||5||+1||4||-1||5||+3||2||-2||4||+2||2||0||'''2'''||2||5||3||0/+1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Sheik}}||1||0||1||0||1||0||1||0||1||0||1||0||1||-2||3||0||3||-1||4||+1||'''3'''||1||4||3||-3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Marth}}||4||-1||5||+1||4||+1||3||+1||2||-1||3||0||3||-1||4||+2||2||-3||5||+1||'''4'''||2||5||3||-1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Jigglypuff}}||17-18 (tie)||'''+7/8'''||10-11 (tie)||0/+1||10||+1||9||-2||11||+3||8||0||8||-2||10||+3/4||6-7 (tie)||+3/4||3||-2||'''5'''||3||17-18||14/15||+14/15 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Peach}}||9||'''+5'''||4||-1||5||+1||4||0||4||-1||5||+1||4||-1||5||0||5||-1||6||0||'''6'''||4||9||5||+3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Captain Falcon}}||15-16 (tie)||+3/4||12-13 (tie)||+1/2||11||0||11||'''+4'''||7||+1||6||0||6||0||6||0/-1||6-7 (tie)||0/-1||7||0||'''7'''||6||15/16||9/10||+8/9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}||11 ( | |{{SSBM|Ice Climbers}}||11-12 (tie)||0/-1/2||12-13 (tie)||-1/0||13||-2||15||-3||18||+3||15||+3||12||'''+5'''||7||-1||8||-1||8||0||'''8'''||7||18||11||+3/4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Dr. Mario}}||10||+3||7||0||7||-1||8||-2||10||-1||11||+2||9||0||9||-1||10||+1||9||0||'''9'''||7||11||4||+1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Pikachu}}||13-14 (tie)||-3/4||17||+1||16||+3||13||-3||16||+2||14||-3||17||-1||18||+2||16||'''+4'''||12||+2||'''10'''||10||18||8||+3/4 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM|Samus}}||6 ( | |{{SSBM|Samus}}||6-8 (tie)||0/-1/2||8||-1||9||+3||6||0||6||-1||7||0||7||-1||8||-1||9||-2||11||0||'''11'''||6||11||5||-3/4/5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Ganondorf}}||11-12 (tie)||0/+1/2||10-11 (tie)||-1/2||12||+2||10||+2||8||-1||9||-1||10||-2||12||+1||11||+1||10||-2||'''12'''||8||12||4||+1/2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Luigi}}||6-8 (tie)||-1/2/3||9||+1||8||'''-4'''||12||0||12||0||12||-1||13||-1||14||+1||12||-2||14||+1||'''13'''||6/7/8||14||8/7/6||-6/7/8 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Mario}}||5||-1||6||0||6||-1||7||-2||9||-1||10||-1||11||0||11||-3||14||+1||13||-1||'''14'''||5||14||9||-9 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Young Link}}||15-16 (tie)||-2/3/4||18-19 (tie)||-1/0||19||0||19||+2||17||-1||18||-2||20||+3||17||0||17||0||17||+2||'''15'''||15/16||20||4/5||-1/2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Link}}||13-14 (tie)||0/-1/2/3||14-16 (tie)||-2/3/4||18||0||18||'''+4'''||14||+1||13||-1||14||+1||13||-2||15||-1||16||0||'''16'''||13||18||5||-2/3 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Donkey Kong}}||19-20 (tie)||0/-1/2||20-21 (tie)||-1/0||21||0||21||-1||22||+1||21||'''+5'''||16||+1||15||+2||13||-2||15||-2||'''17'''||13||22||9||+4/5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Yoshi}}||19-20 (tie)||0/+1/2||18-19 (tie)||'''+4/5'''||14||0||14||+1||13||'''-6'''||19||-2||21||+2||19||-3||22||+1||21||+3||'''18'''||13||22||9||+1/2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Zelda}}||6-8 (tie)||-6/7/8/9/10||14-16 (tie)||-4/5/6||20||'''+4'''||16||-3||19||+2||17||-1||18||-2||20||+1||19||+1||18||-1||'''19'''||6/7/8||20||14/13/12||-10/11/12 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Roy}}||21||+1/0||20-21 (tie)||+3/4||17||-3||20||'''+5'''||15||-1||16||+1||15||-1||16||-2||18||-1||19||-1||'''20'''||15||21||6||+2 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Mewtwo}}||26||+1||25||+1||24||0||24||+1||23||-1||24||-1||25||-1||26||+2||24||'''+4'''||20||-1||'''21'''||20||26||6||+5 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Mr. Game & Watch}}||23||+1/0/-1||22-24 (tie)||0/+1/2||22||0||22||-2||24||+1||23||0||23||+2||21||+1||20||-2||22||0||'''22'''||20||24||4||+1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM|Ness}}||17 ( | |{{SSBM|Ness}}||17-18 (tie)||+1/2/3/4||14-16 (tie)||-1/0/+1||15||-2||17||-3||20||0||20||+1||19||-3||22||+1||21||-2||23||0||'''23'''||14/15||23||8/9||-5/6 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Bowser}}||24-25 (tie)||0/+1/2/3||22-24 (tie)||-2/3/4||26||0||26||0||26||+1||25||+1||24||+1||23||0||23||-1||24||0||'''24'''||22/23||26||4/3||0/+1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Pichu}}||24-25 (tie)||-1/2||26||+1||25||0||25||0||25||-1||26||0||26||+1||25||-1||26||+1/0||25-26 (tie)||+1||'''25'''||24/25||26||1/2||0/-1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSBM| | |{{SSBM|Kirby}}||22||0/-1/2||22-24 (tie)||-1/0/+1||23||0||23||+2||21||-1||22||0||22||-2||24||-1||25||0/-1||25-26 (tie)||-1||'''26'''||20||26||4/5||-4 | ||
|} | |} | ||
==See also== | ==See also== | ||
*[[List of SSB tier lists (NTSC)]] | *[[List of SSB tier lists (NTSC)]] | ||
*[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)]] | *[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)]] | ||
*[[Metagame]] | *[[Metagame]] | ||
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*[http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=294748 Tenth actual ''Melee'' tier list] | *[http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=294748 Tenth actual ''Melee'' tier list] | ||
*[http://smashboards.com/threads/melee-tier-list-voting-results-posted.336113 Eleventh ''Melee'' tier list] | *[http://smashboards.com/threads/melee-tier-list-voting-results-posted.336113 Eleventh ''Melee'' tier list] | ||
[[Category:Tier lists]] | [[Category:Tier lists]] | ||
[[Category:Super Smash Bros. Melee]] | [[Category:Super Smash Bros. Melee]] | ||
==References== | |||
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