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==First tier list (October 8, 2002)== | ==First tier list (October 8, 2002)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/1}} | {{MeleeTiers/1}} | ||
Though this was the first tier list, [[SmashBoards]] was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages". The term "F/F/S" (short for "{{SSBM|Falco}}, {{SSBM|Fox}} and {{SSBM|Sheik}}") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier | Though this was the first tier list, [[SmashBoards]] was rife with discussion about tiers long before the Melee Back Room released its "MBR Tier Averages". The term "F/F/S" (short for "{{SSBM|Falco}}, {{SSBM|Fox}} and {{SSBM|Sheik}}") was popular as a quick reference to Melee's top tier. Members on Smashboards, perhaps in backlash against novice sentiment towards {{SSBM|Roy}} and {{SSBM|Link}}, generally disdained those characters, and generally favored the game's fastest characters. | ||
Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low- or even middle-tier character and were bothered that it, despite its great [[recovery]] and powerful [[throw]]s, was placed at the bottom of the tier list, where most people believed Bowser or Pichu belonged. | Members on Smashboards largely contested this tier list's placement of {{SSBM|Mewtwo}}, which they felt to be too low. Many Smashboarders considered Mewtwo a low- or even middle-tier character and were bothered that it, despite its great [[recovery]] and powerful [[throw]]s, was placed at the bottom of the tier list, where most people believed Bowser or Pichu belonged. | ||
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==Third tier list (June 23, 2003)== | ==Third tier list (June 23, 2003)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/3}} | {{MeleeTiers/3}} | ||
This tier list was released soon after | This tier list was released soon after [[Smasher:Ken Hoang|Ken Hoang]] won [[Tournament Go|Tournament Go 4]]. Before Ken, {{SSBM|Marth}} strategy largely encompassed [[rolling]] and [[C-stick]] [[smash attack|smashing]] symptomatic of low-level play today, but Ken introduced to the community the uses of [[dash-dancing]], [[chain grab|chain throwing]] and [[aerial attack]]s, all techniques that largely improved Marth's [[metagame]] and moved him to top tier for years to come. Ken's focus on aerial combat also caused significant movement for some characters; {{SSBM|Zelda}}, for instance, fell from 6 to 20. | ||
This is the first tier list that officially ranks characters into tiers. | This is the first tier list that officially ranks characters into tiers. | ||
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==Ninth tier list (October 14, 2008)== | ==Ninth tier list (October 14, 2008)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/9}} | {{MeleeTiers/9}} | ||
For the first time since December 2002, the Smash Back Room published each character's numerical scores. This tier list was originally intended to be the final tier list for ''Melee'', with the expectation being that players would move over to ''Brawl'' and result in the ''Melee'' metagame becoming static, similar to the tier lists for the original ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' (which ironically eventually ended up happening for ''Brawl'' instead). However, ''Melee'' | For the first time since December 2002, the Smash Back Room published each character's numerical scores. This tier list was originally intended to be the final tier list for ''Melee'', with the expectation being that players would move over to ''Brawl'' and result in the ''Melee'' metagame becoming static, similar to the tier lists for the original ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'' (which ironically eventually ended up happening for ''Brawl'' instead). However, ''Melee''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s tournament scene remained strong even as ''Brawl''<nowiki>'</nowiki>s tournament scene grew and ''Melee'''s metagame experienced drastic changes (such as Jigglypuff dominating as well as or more than the top-tier characters); as a result, the tier list ultimately did change several times even after this supposed "final" revision. | ||
==Original tenth tier list (September 14, 2010)== | ==Original tenth tier list (September 14, 2010)== | ||
{{MeleeTiers/10Beta}} | {{MeleeTiers/10Beta}} | ||
This list was originally publicized as the tenth tier list despite having qualities that made it seem incomplete or rushed in some way. It was heavily criticized for its very large number of | This list was originally publicized as the tenth tier list despite having qualities that made it seem incomplete or rushed in some way. It was heavily criticized for its very large number of tiers - it has not only the most tiers of any tier list, but the biggest tier, involving the entire Negligible tier. In addition, this list was claimed to have been mostly the work of the single user {{sm|KirbyKaze}}, which was then slightly modified by the Back Room. Likely spurred by the topical [[Master Hand glitch]] (which was discovered between the creation of the ninth tier list and this one), the Back Room also included a "Gengar" tier in the list below the Negligible tier as a joke, where "Master Hand and other glitches" were placed. | ||
In this list, Mewtwo and Jigglypuff have risen significantly from the previous tier lists, with Jigglypuff now in the top tier alongside both [[Star Fox]] characters (marking the first appearance of a [[floaty]] character in the top tier of Melee's metagame since Peach in the fourth tier list) and Mewtwo being a whopping 5 places above its previous best. This is the only tier list to include a tier below the Bottom tier. | In this list, Mewtwo and Jigglypuff have risen significantly from the previous tier lists, with Jigglypuff now in the top tier alongside both [[Star Fox]] characters (marking the first appearance of a [[floaty]] character in the top tier of Melee's metagame since Peach in the fourth tier list) and Mewtwo being a whopping 5 places above its previous best. This is the only tier list to include a tier below the Bottom tier. | ||
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This is the first tier list to use sub-tiers (B+/B-, C+/C-). The clustering algorithm that split up the tiers produced good results with both six tiers or eight tiers. The extra two splits would have been where B and C tier are split. The only other difference with eight tiers would have been that the split for F tier would have moved to above Ness and Zelda. The creators believed the six tier version to be a better representation, but decided to split the B and C tiers in order to show that they encompassed a greater range of viability than the other tiers. The voters were additionally told to assume the Ice Climbers could wobble, although wobbling is frequently banned at tournaments. | This is the first tier list to use sub-tiers (B+/B-, C+/C-). The clustering algorithm that split up the tiers produced good results with both six tiers or eight tiers. The extra two splits would have been where B and C tier are split. The only other difference with eight tiers would have been that the split for F tier would have moved to above Ness and Zelda. The creators believed the six tier version to be a better representation, but decided to split the B and C tiers in order to show that they encompassed a greater range of viability than the other tiers. The voters were additionally told to assume the Ice Climbers could wobble, although wobbling is frequently banned at tournaments. | ||
Jigglypuff rose into the top 3 for the first time since the tenth tier list. Similarly, Captain Falcon and Yoshi both rose 2 spots due to advancements in their metagames as well as efforts from players such as {{Sm|Wizzrobe}} and {{Sm|aMSa}}. Conversely, both Falco and Dr. Mario fell two spots, the former due to the rise of Jigglypuff and Marth, and the latter due to a stagnant metagame. In the lower tiers, Pichu rose 2 spots and is no longer a bottom 3 character, while Zelda dropped 2 spots into the bottom 3. For the first time since the fifth tier list (not counting the April Fools sixth tier list), Bowser fell back to the bottom of the list. | Jigglypuff rose into the top 3 for the first time since the tenth tier list due to {{Sm|Hungrybox}}'s dominance. Similarly, Captain Falcon and Yoshi both rose 2 spots due to advancements in their metagames as well as efforts from players such as {{Sm|Wizzrobe}} and {{Sm|aMSa}}. Conversely, both Falco and Dr. Mario fell two spots, the former due to the rise of Jigglypuff and Marth, and the latter due to a stagnant metagame. In the lower tiers, Pichu rose 2 spots and is no longer a bottom 3 character, while Zelda dropped 2 spots into the bottom 3. For the first time since the fifth tier list (not counting the April Fools sixth tier list), Bowser fell back to the bottom of the list. | ||
PG Stats also released a [https://www.pgstats.com/articles/over-1-000-melee-community-members-rank-the-characters 2021 Melee Community Tier List], compiled from 1,077 survey responses from members of the Super Smash Bros. Melee competitive community | PG Stats also released a [https://www.pgstats.com/articles/over-1-000-melee-community-members-rank-the-characters 2021 Melee Community Tier List], compiled from 1,077 survey responses from members of the Super Smash Bros. Melee competitive community. | ||
==Tier list chart== | ==Tier list chart== | ||
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==See also== | ==See also== | ||
*[[List of SSB tier lists (NTSC)]] | *[[List of SSB tier lists (NTSC)]] | ||
*[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)]] | |||
*[[List of SSBM tier lists (PAL)]] | *[[List of SSBM tier lists (PAL)]] | ||
*[[List of | *[[List of SSBM tier lists (Brazil)]] | ||
*[[List of SSB4 tier lists | *[[List of SSB4 tier lists (NTSC)]] | ||
*[[Metagame]] | *[[Metagame]] | ||