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The tiers in this list were split into groups: Top (S); High (A, B); Middle (C, D, E); Low (F, G), and Bottom (H, I, J). | The tiers in this list were split into groups: Top (S); High (A, B); Middle (C, D, E); Low (F, G), and Bottom (H, I, J). | ||
Many members of the ''Smash 4'' community thought that this tier list was created too early, as version [[ | Many members of the ''Smash 4'' community thought that this tier list was created too early, as version [[List_of_updates_(SSB4-Wii_U)#1.1.4|1.1.4]] was only two days from release, which would add [[Bayonetta_(SSB4)|Bayonetta]] and [[Corrin_(SSB4)|Corrin]] as playable characters, as well as likely contain a variety of [[List_of_updates_(SSB4-Wii_U)|balance changes]]; {{sm|ZeRo}}, considered the world's best ''Smash 4'' player at the time, notably abstained from voting due to this. After the release of 1.1.4, two further balance patches were also released, leading to further dispute over the legitimacy of the tier list. | ||
==Second tier list (August | ==Second tier list (August 22, 2016)== | ||
{{SSB4Tiers/2}} | {{SSB4Tiers/2}} | ||
This is the second tier list released by the Smash 4 Back Room.<ref>[http://smashboards.com/threads/4br-smash-for-wii-u-tier-list-v2-0.440779/]</ref> This list sees drastic shifts as a result of the three balance patches and two new characters that released between the first list and this one. {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}'s consistently high placings and popularity around the world have led to him securing the top spot--this is the fastest in ''Smash'' history that a top character, in this case {{SSB4|Sheik}}, has been replaced | This is the second tier list released by the Smash 4 Back Room.<ref>[http://smashboards.com/threads/4br-smash-for-wii-u-tier-list-v2-0.440779/]</ref> This list sees drastic shifts as a result of the three balance patches and two new characters that released between the first list and this one. {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}'s consistently high placings and popularity around the world have led to him securing the top spot--this is the fastest in ''Smash'' history that a top character, in this case {{SSB4|Sheik}}, has been replaced. The most outstanding improvement is {{SSB4|Mewtwo}}'s unprecedented 27-spot rise thanks to its buffed speed, strength, and [[hitbox]]es, leading to high tournament placings thanks to players such as {{Sm|Abadango}}. {{SSB4|Marth}} also saw a great jump, courtesy of buffs to his speed and hitboxes as well as the work of mains such as {{Sm|Leo}}, {{Sm|Mr.E}}, and {{Sm|Pugwest}}. The character with the biggest drop is {{SSB4|Roy}}, who, despite being technically buffed from ''Melee'' and receiving some slight lag reductions in [[1.1.4]], has had very limited tournament representation due to his glaring flaws: limited approach options, laggy attacks, high vulnerability to combos, and poor recovery. {{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}} also saw a noticeable drop due to {{Sm|Tweek}} switching to {{SSB4|Cloud}} and therefore having almost no high-level tournament representation. {{SSB4|Jigglypuff}} is now dead last due to its almost nonexistent representation, attributed to its abysmal survivability, range, and combo ability. | ||
As with the first tier list, [https://smashboards.com/threads/4br-tier-list-v2-0-followup.441975/ a follow-up article was released]. | As with the first tier list, [https://smashboards.com/threads/4br-tier-list-v2-0-followup.441975/ a follow-up article was released]. | ||
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==Third tier list (March 1, 2017)== | ==Third tier list (March 1, 2017)== | ||
{{SSB4Tiers | {{SSB4Tiers}} | ||
This is the third tier list released by the Backroom.<ref>[https://smashboards.com/threads/4br-smash-for-wii-u-tier-list-v3.445995/]</ref> | This is the third tier list released by the Backroom.<ref>[https://smashboards.com/threads/4br-smash-for-wii-u-tier-list-v3.445995/]</ref> | ||
As with the previous lists, the tiers in this list were split into groups: Top (S & A), High (B), Mid (C & D), and Low (E & F). Unlike other tier lists, there is no "Bottom" group. | As with the previous lists, the tiers in this list were split into groups: Top (S & A), High (B), Mid (C & D), and Low (E & F). Unlike other tier lists, there is no "Bottom" group. | ||
The distribution of top tiers changed drastically in the transition. {{SSB4|Bayonetta}} rose 10 places to claim the top spot over {{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}, the second time in a row that the top character has been replaced and causing her own growth over the game's lifespan to reflect Diddy's (as both characters gained a reputation for being "overpowered", were eventually nerfed and ranked in lower high tier, and claimed the top spot on the following tier list). However, the S tier shrunk to only include four characters - Bayonetta, Diddy, {{SSB4|Cloud}} and {{SSB4|Sheik}}. Due to their below-average playerbase and dearth in results compared to other top tiers, {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}} notably fell from S to A tier for the first time. However, {{SSB4|Marth}}'s results continued to improve drastically, causing him to rise into the top tiers at 10th place, finally continuing the trend that he set in ''Melee'' and ''Brawl'', and giving him the highest cumulative tier rise over all three tier lists. | |||
Many character placements are similar to how they were in the second tier list, with numerous characters remaining adjacent to each other in the same order. However, results for many lower-ranked characters (especially in the low and bottom tiers) have improved drastically, causing a reduction in the number of tier groups and the abolishment of the "Bottom" ranking. The greatest improvement was {{SSB4|Lucina}} by 18 places, placing her in high tier and showing almost the same degree of improvement as her template {{SSB4|Marth}}. {{SSB4|Bowser}} and {{SSB4|Charizard}} also saw significant improvement, with {{sm|Nairo}} using Bowser to cause some major upsets and Charizard's results gradually but notably outpacing those for other bottom-tiers, causing super-heavyweight characters in general to be more evenly distributed across the lower half of the tier list. Many other low-tier characters rose in the rankings as well, with some (such as {{SSB4|Link}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}} and {{SSB4|Duck Hunt}}) ascending to mid tier. | Many character placements are similar to how they were in the second tier list, with numerous characters remaining adjacent to each other in the same order. However, results for many lower-ranked characters (especially in the low and bottom tiers) have improved drastically, causing a reduction in the number of tier groups and the abolishment of the "Bottom" ranking. The greatest improvement was {{SSB4|Lucina}} by 18 places, placing her in high tier and showing almost the same degree of improvement as her template {{SSB4|Marth}}. {{SSB4|Bowser}} and {{SSB4|Charizard}} also saw significant improvement, with {{sm|Nairo}} using Bowser to cause some major upsets and Charizard's results gradually but notably outpacing those for other bottom-tiers, causing super-heavyweight characters in general to be more evenly distributed across the lower half of the tier list. Many other low-tier characters rose in the rankings as well, with some (such as {{SSB4|Link}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}} and {{SSB4|Duck Hunt}}) ascending to mid tier. | ||
Tier drops were not as notable as rises, with the most drastic being {{SSB4|Ness}} by 8 places. This is mainly due to | Tier drops were not as notable as rises, with the most drastic being {{SSB4|Ness}} by 8 places. This is mainly due to many Ness players had rarely enter any tournaments in such a long time span (More specifically, after [[EVO 2016]] to [[2GGT: ZeRo Saga]]). Despite Ness being able to slowly gain results on Winter 2016 and 2017, such as {{Sm|FOW}}'s 17th placement in [[2GGT: ZeRo Saga]] and {{Sm|S1}}'s 5th placement in [[B.E.A.S.T 7]], his current overall results are stagnant. From this, his placement drop from high tier into mid tier. | ||
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==Tier list chart== | ==Tier list chart== | ||
This table shows the ranks of each character through all of the tier lists, as well as a numbered description of their change in rank each time. "Change" lists how much a character's position changed between the two tier lists it is in between. "Highest" represents a character's highest position, "Lowest" represents their lowest position, and "Difference" lists the difference between the highest and lowest position. "Overall change" represents a character's change between the first tier list and the current tier list. | This table shows the ranks of each character through all of the tier lists, as well as a numbered description of their change in rank each time. "Change" lists how much a character's position changed between the two tier lists it is in between. "Highest" represents a character's highest position, "Lowest" represents their lowest position, and "Difference" lists the difference between the highest and lowest position. "Overall change" represents a character's change between the first tier list and the current tier list. | ||
{|class="wikitable sortable" | {|class="wikitable sortable collapsible collapsed" | ||
!Character | !Character | ||
!data-sort-type="number"|1st tier list | !data-sort-type="number"|1st tier list | ||
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!data-sort-type="number"|2nd tier list | !data-sort-type="number"|2nd tier list | ||
!data-sort-type="number"|Change | !data-sort-type="number"|Change | ||
!data-sort-type="number"|3rd | !data-sort-type="number"|3rd (current) tier list | ||
!data-sort-type="number"|Highest | !data-sort-type="number"|Highest | ||
!data-sort-type="number"|Lowest | !data-sort-type="number"|Lowest | ||
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!data-sort-type="number"|Overall change | !data-sort-type="number"|Overall change | ||
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|{{SSB4|Bayonetta}}||N/A||N/A||11||+10 | |{{SSB4|Bayonetta}}||N/A||N/A||11||+10||'''1'''||1||11||10||'''+10''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Diddy Kong}}||9||+8||1||-1||'''2'''||1||9||8||'''+7''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Cloud}}||12||+10||2||-1||'''3'''||2||12||10||'''+9''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4|Sheik}}||1||-2||3||-1 | |{{SSB4|Sheik}}||1||-2||3||-1||'''4'''||1||4||3||'''-3''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Sonic}}||6||±0||6||+1||'''5'''||5||6||1||'''-1''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Mario}}||8||+3||5||-1||'''6'''||5||8||3||'''+2''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4|Fox}}||7||±0||7||±0 | |{{SSB4|Fox}}||7||±0||7||±0||'''7'''||7||7||0||'''±0''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}||3||-1||4||-4||'''8'''||3||8||5||'''-5''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Mewtwo}}||37||'''+27'''||10||+1||'''9'''||9||37||28||'''+28''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Marth}}||41||'''+22'''||19||+9||'''10'''||10||41||31||'''+31''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}||2||-6||8||-3||'''11'''||2||11||9||'''-9''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4|Ryu}}||4||-5||9||-3 | |{{SSB4|Ryu}}||4||-5||9||-3||'''12'''||4||12||8||'''-8''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4|Corrin}}||N/A||N/A||18||+5 | |{{SSB4|Corrin}}||N/A||N/A||18||+5||'''13'''||13||18||5||'''+5''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Meta Knight}}||10||-3||13||-1||'''14'''||10||14||4||'''-4''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4|Pikachu}}||5||-7||12||-3 | |{{SSB4|Pikachu}}||5||-7||12||-3||'''15'''||5||15||10||'''-10''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Mega Man}}||28||+13||15||-1||'''16'''||15||28||13||'''+12''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Villager}}||11||-3||14||-3||'''17'''||11||17||6||'''-6''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Lucina}}||47||+11||36||+18||'''18'''||18||47||29||'''+29''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Lucario}}||23||+1||22||+3||'''19'''||19||23||4||'''+4''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Toon Link}}||22||+5||17||-3||'''20'''||17||22||5||'''+2''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Peach}}||19||-7||26||+5||'''21'''||19||26||7||'''-2''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Greninja}}||25||+4||21||-1||'''22'''||21||25||4||'''+3''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Captain Falcon}}||14||-6||20||-3||'''23'''||14||23||9||'''-9''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Ness}}||13||-3||16||-8||'''24'''||13||24||11||'''-11''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Bowser}}||30||-2||32||+7||'''25'''||25||32||7||'''+5''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Luigi}}||16||-13||29||+3||'''26'''||16||29||13||'''-10''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Olimar}}||24||-6||30||+3||'''27'''||24||30||6||'''-3''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Donkey Kong}}||27||+2||25||-3||'''28'''||25||28||3||'''+2''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Yoshi}}|||15||-8||23||-6||'''29'''||15||29||14||'''-14''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Pit}}||18||-6||24||-6 (,7*)||'''30 (,31*)'''||18||30 (,31*)||12 (,13*)||'''-12 (,13*)''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Dark Pit}}||17||-10||27||-3 (,4*)||'''30 (,31*)'''||17||27||13 (,14*)||'''-13 (,14*)''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Lucas}}||36||+3||33||+1||'''32'''||32||36||4||'''+4''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|R.O.B}}||20||-8||28||-5||'''33'''||20||33||13||'''-13''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Robin}}||31||±0||31||-3||'''34'''||31||34||3||'''-3''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Ike}}||26||-9||35||±0||'''35'''||26||35||9||'''-9''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Wario}}||21||-13||34||-2||'''36'''||21||36||15||'''-15''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Duck Hunt}}||43 (,44*)||+1 (,+2*)||42||+5||'''37'''||37||43 (,44*)||6 (,7*)||'''+6 (,7*)''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Shulk}}||40||-4||44||+6||'''38'''||38||44||6||'''+2''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Link}}||42||-1||43||+4||'''39'''||39||43||4||'''+3''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Mr. Game & Watch}}||35||-2||37||-3||'''40'''||35||40||5||'''-5''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Samus}}||51||+6||45||+4||'''41'''||41||51||10||'''+10''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Palutena}}||50||+10||40||-2||'''42'''||40||50||10||'''+8''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Little Mac}}||43 (,44*)||+4 (,+5*)||39||-4||'''43'''||39||43 (,44*)||4 (,5*)||'''±0 (,+1*)''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Roy}}||32||-18||50||+6||'''44'''||32||50||18||'''-12''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Charizard}}||49||-2||51||+6||'''45'''||45||51||6||'''+4''' | ||
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|{{SSB4|Pac-Man}}||29||-9||38||- | |{{SSB4|Pac-Man}}||29||-9||38||-8||'''46'''||29||46||17||'''-17''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Kirby}}||33||-8||41||-6||'''47'''||33||47||14||'''-14''' | ||
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|{{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}}||34||-12 (,-13*)||46 (,47*)||- | |{{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}}||34||-12 (,-13*)||46 (,47*)||-2 (,1*)||'''48'''||34||48||14||'''-14''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}}||39||-7 (,-8*)||46 (,47*)||-3 (,2*)||'''49'''||39||49||10||'''-10''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Falco}}||38||-11||49||-1||'''50'''||38||50||12||'''-12''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Dr. Mario}}||45||-3||48||-3||'''51'''||45||51||6||'''-6''' | ||
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|{{SSB4|King Dedede}}||46||-6||52 | |{{SSB4|King Dedede}}||46||-6||52||±0||'''52'''||46||52||6||'''-6''' | ||
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|{{SSB4|Ganondorf}}||54||-2||56||+ | |{{SSB4|Ganondorf}}||54||-2||56||+3||'''53'''||53||56||3||'''+1''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Mii Gunner}}||52||-1||53||-1||'''54'''||52||54||2||'''-2''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Zelda}}||56||+1||55||±0||'''55'''||55||56||1||'''+1''' | ||
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|{{SSB4|Mii Brawler}}||48||-6||54||- | |{{SSB4|Mii Brawler}}||48||-6||54||-2||'''56'''||48||56||8||'''-8''' | ||
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|{{SSB4|Mii Swordfighter}}||53||-4||57|| | |{{SSB4|Mii Swordfighter}}||53||-4||57||±0||'''57'''||53||57||4||'''-4''' | ||
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|{{SSB4| | |{{SSB4|Jigglypuff}}||55||-3||58||±0||'''58'''||55||58||3||'''-3''' | ||
|} | |} | ||
''*'' = tie | ''*'' = tie | ||
==See also== | ==See also== | ||
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*[[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)]] | *[[List of SSBM tier lists (NTSC)]] | ||
*[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)]] | *[[List of SSBB tier lists (NTSC)]] | ||
*[[Metagame]] | *[[Metagame]] | ||