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Overall, up aerial is considered to be Kirby's least useful aerial due to its extremely poor speed and low utility, being incapable of KOing and having limited combo potential. As a result, Kirby is almost always better off using one of his other aerials, making up aerial rare to be seen in competitive play, though it occasionally sees use on [[platform]]s for shield pressure. The Kirby main Alpha(CL) from Chile was well known for his use with this move.
Overall, up aerial is considered to be Kirby's least useful aerial due to its extremely poor speed and low utility, being incapable of KOing and having limited combo potential. As a result, Kirby is almost always better off using one of his other aerials, making up aerial rare to be seen in competitive play, though it occasionally sees use on [[platform]]s for shield pressure. The Kirby main Alpha(CL) from Chile was well known for his use with this move.


In the Japanese version, the move is slightly better due to its clean hit dealing 12% damage and its mid hit dealing 9% damage although since the move has set knockback, this does not have a significant impact, besides making the move safer on shield. The move also had a bigger hitbox, making it harder to intercept.
In the Japanese version, the move is slightly better due to its clean hit dealing 12% damage and its mid hit dealing 9% damage although since the move has set knockback, this does not have a significant impact, besides making the move safer on shield.
 
{{technical data|<br>NTSC-J hitbox tables. Landing hit may not be correct}}


==Hitboxes==
==Hitboxes==
===NTSC-J===
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early*|19}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early*|19}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=16%
|angle=361
|bk=10
|ks=100
|fkv=100
|r=150
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|effect=Normal
|slvl=M
|sfx=Punch
}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Clean|19}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|id=0
|damage=12%
|damage=12%
|angle=361
|bk=10
|ks=100
|fkv=100
|r=150
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|effect=Normal
|slvl=M
|sfx=Punch
}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Mid|19}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=9%
|angle=361
|bk=10
|ks=100
|fkv=100
|r=150
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|effect=Normal
|slvl=M
|sfx=Punch
}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Late|19}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=6%
|angle=361
|bk=10
|ks=100
|fkv=100
|r=150
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|effect=Normal
|slvl=M
|sfx=Punch
}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Landing|19}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=3%
|angle=361
|bk=0
|ks=100
|fkv=80
|r=130
|bn=0
|effect=Normal
|slvl=M
|sfx=Punch
}}
|}
===NTSC-U/PAL===
{{SSB64HitboxTableHeader}}
{{HitboxTableTitle|Early*|19}}
{{SSB64HitboxTableRow
|id=0
|damage=12%
|damagebg=nerf
|angle=361
|angle=361
|bk=10
|bk=10
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|fkv=100
|fkv=100
|r=105
|r=105
|rbg=nerf
|bn=5
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|ypos=60
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|id=0
|id=0
|damage=10%
|damage=10%
|damagebg=nerf
|angle=361
|angle=361
|bk=10
|bk=10
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|fkv=100
|fkv=100
|r=105
|r=105
|rbg=nerf
|bn=5
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|ypos=60
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|id=0
|id=0
|damage=8%
|damage=8%
|damagebg=nerf
|angle=361
|angle=361
|bk=10
|bk=10
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|fkv=100
|fkv=100
|r=105
|r=105
|rbg=nerf
|bn=5
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|ypos=60
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|fkv=100
|fkv=100
|r=105
|r=105
|rbg=nerf
|bn=5
|bn=5
|ypos=60
|ypos=60
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}}
}}
|}
|}
====Summary====
*{{nerf|Early*/clean/mid hit damage (16%/12%/9% → 12%/10%/8%).}}
**{{change|The early hit's lower damage does not affect gameplay.*}}
*{{nerf|Hitbox size (150u → 105u).}}


==Timing==
==Timing==
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<nowiki>*</nowiki> Due to what is presumably a programming error, the 10% hitbox is listed to start on frame 8 even though the hitboxes do not activate until frame 10. Because of this, the script immediately skips to the 10% hitbox and so the early 12% hit never occurs. It's likely that the early hit was meant to be active from frames 10-17 but due to a timing error (with a frame timer being used instead of a wait timer), it never comes out. Even stranger, the same error exists for the move in ''Melee'' where it became his neutral aerial, suggesting the code was copied and the error was never caught despite the altered hitbox properties/durations.


{{FrameStripStart}}
{{FrameStripStart}}
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|20
|20
|-
|-
!Z-cancelled animation length
!L-cancelled animation length
|4
|4
|}
|}
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|Normal&nbsp;{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=17}}
|Normal&nbsp;{{FrameStrip|t=Hitbox|c=3}}{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=17}}
|-
|-
|Z-cancelled&nbsp;{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=4}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=16}}
|L-cancelled&nbsp;{{FrameStrip|t=Lag|c=4}}{{FrameStrip|t=Blank|c=16}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}
{{FrameStripEnd}}


{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|autocancel=y}}
{{FrameIconLegend|lag=y|hitbox=y|hitboxchange=y|autocancel=y}}
==Trivia==
* Due to what is presumably a programming error, the 10% hitbox is listed to start on frame 8 even though the hitboxes do not activate until frame 10. Because of this, the script immediately skips to the 10% hitbox and so the early 12% hit never occurs. It's likely that the early hit was meant to be active from frames 10-17 but due to a timing error (with a frame timer being used instead of a wait timer), it never comes out. Even stranger, the same error exists for the move in ''Melee'' where it became his neutral aerial, suggesting the code was copied and the error was never caught despite the altered hitbox properties/durations.
* Additionally, the move's hitboxes remain active for the move's entire animation (after they activate) because there is no flag to remove the hitboxes. According to CPU data, the hitboxes were planned to only be active until frame 37 but due to this error, they remain active until the animation ends (on frame 80). The same error can be found with {{mvsub|Link|SSBM|neutral aerial|poss=y}} in ''Melee''.


{{MvSubNavKirby|g=SSB}}
{{MvSubNavKirby|g=SSB}}

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