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==Overview== | ==Overview== | ||
King K. Rool's [[down throw]] (known in-game as ''Piledriver'') is a particularly notorious throw, for the fact it has a [[bury]] effect. While the bury itself is quite weak, it is very exploitable for King K. Rool players due to the 50/50s it enables. As a result, this move is a cornerstone of King K. Rool's [[metagame]] and usually how he gets [[KO]]s. | King K. Rool's [[down throw]] (known in-game as ''Piledriver'') is a particularly notorious throw, for the fact it has a [[bury]] effect. While the bury itself is quite weak, it is very exploitable for King K. Rool players due to the 50/50s it enables. As a result, this move is a cornerstone of King K. Rool's [[metagame]] and usually how he gets [[KO]]s. | ||
===Frame Advantage=== | ===Frame Advantage=== | ||
Unlike the usual buries in ''Ultimate'', King K. Rool's down throw uses a specific equation to devise the base time for an opponent being buried. This equation goes as follows; '''60 + (0.75×Damage before throw)'''. This equation completely erases the opponent's parameters as well as knockback from the result. As a result of this information, the frame advantage can be sorted into a table, against a TAS [[mash]]ing bot. | Unlike the usual buries in ''Ultimate'', King K. Rool's down throw uses a specific equation to devise the base time for an opponent being buried. This equation goes as follows; '''60 + (0.75×Damage before throw)'''. This equation completely erases the opponent's parameters as well as knockback from the result. As a result of this information, the frame advantage can be sorted into a table, against a TAS [[mash]]ing bot. | ||
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===Confirming Up Smash=== | ===Confirming Up Smash=== | ||
Due to the low frame advantage in King K. Rool's Down Throw, most players go for [[../Up smash|up smash]] out of it. This is because in-context, human mashing tends to make it roughly neutral, and the 12 frames of lag when an opponent is unburied tends to get them hit by it. This is a kill setup from around 100%. For some characters, King K. Rool has to dash before using up smash to hit them | Due to the low frame advantage in King K. Rool's Down Throw, most players go for [[../Up smash|up smash]] out of it. This is because in-context, human mashing tends to make it roughly neutral, and the 12 frames of lag when an opponent is unburied tends to get them hit by it. This is a kill setup from around 100%. For some characters, King K. Rool has to dash before using up smash to hit them<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1J2Jn8kUlf6Ua8qpub1k270Cn5PIkjqymgypNDV46H3o/edit?usp=sharing</ref>. One notable example is {{SSBU|Joker}}, due to his small hurtbox. To alleviate this, K. Rool players tend to do a quarter-circle up input to buffer dash and up smash in sequence. Regardless of this, due to this factor, the consistency of this 50/50 varies by character. | ||
Opponents that attempt to avoid this by not mashing tend to get hit by devastating punishes should the K. Rool player react correctly. One would be his [[../Forward smash|forward smash]], capable of KOing as early as 50% at the edge. Players also tend to use [[../Neutral attack|neutral attack]] to store [[knockback]], then go for a regrab. This allows King K. Rool to "game" the 50/50 situation and usually confirm the KO as well, as well as other attacks such as forward tilt and dash attack. It is also possible for K. Rool to store his [[../Down aerial|down aerial]]'s [[meteor smash]] inside of a bury, and down throw is no exception to this | Opponents that attempt to avoid this by not mashing tend to get hit by devastating punishes should the K. Rool player react correctly. One would be his [[../Forward smash|forward smash]], capable of KOing as early as 50% at the edge. Players also tend to use [[../Neutral attack|neutral attack]] to store [[knockback]], then go for a regrab. This allows King K. Rool to "game" the 50/50 situation and usually confirm the KO as well, as well as other attacks such as forward tilt and dash attack. It is also possible for K. Rool to store his [[../Down aerial|down aerial]]'s [[meteor smash]] inside of a bury, and down throw is no exception to this<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1D_yM8UhNDiQXFlyTx-fHM_uFjZ5hN9sffAZ3wYUlrRg/edit?usp=sharing</ref>. Out of this, King K. Rool can confirm his up smash, working as an even earlier kill setup from around 75%. | ||
==="True" Kill Confirms=== | ==="True" Kill Confirms=== | ||
Should the player want to forgo the aforementioned 50/50, however, the player can go for a various "true" confirms instead. [[../Forward tilt|Forward tilt]], [[../Up tilt|up tilt]] and [[../Dash attack|dash attack]] are common followups to achieve this. These followups can technically still be mashed out of until around 130%, but remain strong options due to their kill power, and the lack of human opponents who can escape moves like up tilt entirely. | Should the player want to forgo the aforementioned 50/50, however, the player can go for a various "true" confirms instead. [[../Forward tilt|Forward tilt]], [[../Up tilt|up tilt]] and [[../Dash attack|dash attack]] are common followups to achieve this. These followups can technically still be mashed out of until around 130%, but remain strong options due to their kill power, and the lack of human opponents who can escape moves like up tilt entirely. | ||
Forward tilt is a controversial (due to being frame 12) albeit often used followup, for its kill power. However, the kill power exclusively comes from whether it sweetspots opponents. This varies by matchup | Forward tilt is a controversial (due to being frame 12) albeit often used followup, for its kill power. However, the kill power exclusively comes from whether it sweetspots opponents. This varies by matchup<ref>https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Cb5bhVZr9hG96IoWyt5aMWRcHJ1Jc2E4dnWsucdex8Y/edit?usp=sharing</ref>, but can pay off greatly if the opponent cannot mash out of it. Many players angle forward tilt up in matchups where it connects, with the aim of catching opponents as they mash out, effectively making the move a [[true combo]] at some percents. | ||
Up tilt is considered to be the most consistent option out of down throw, due to it being frame 5 and having a high vertical hitbox. This allows it to almost always connect on opponents at around 130%, although TAS mashing will just barely get them out of the sweetspot's range. Due to the consistency, this is occasionally used as a mixup at lower [[percentage]]s to build up damage. | Up tilt is considered to be the most consistent option out of down throw, due to it being frame 5 and having a high vertical hitbox. This allows it to almost always connect on opponents at around 130%, although TAS mashing will just barely get them out of the sweetspot's range. Due to the consistency, this is occasionally used as a mixup at lower [[percentage]]s to build up damage. | ||
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==Throw Data== | ==Throw Data== | ||
The move buries the opponent upside down. The bury duration is determined by the formula <code>60 + 0.75p</code>, where '''p''' is the target's percent before damage from the throw. As such, its duration is not affected by stock difference or [[rage]]. Bury Tech Situation Storage does not affect this move due to [[ASDI]] not working on throws | The move buries the opponent upside down. The bury duration is determined by the formula <code>60 + 0.75p</code>, where '''p''' is the target's percent before damage from the throw. As such, its duration is not affected by stock difference or [[rage]]. Bury Tech Situation Storage does not affect this move due to [[ASDI]] not working on throws<ref>https://twitter.com/PlagueVonKarma/status/1224697652392157185</ref>. | ||
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*[[R.O.B. (SSBU)/Down throw]] | *[[R.O.B. (SSBU)/Down throw]] | ||
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