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:''This article is about Ivysaur's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''. For other uses, see [[Ivysaur]]. Also, for information about Ivysaur in regards to Pokémon Trainer, see [[Pokémon Trainer (SSBU)]], [[Squirtle (SSBU)]], and [[Charizard (SSBU)]].'' | :''This article is about Ivysaur's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. Ultimate''. For other uses, see [[Ivysaur]]. Also, for information about Ivysaur in regards to Pokémon Trainer, see [[Pokémon Trainer (SSBU)]], [[Squirtle (SSBU)]], and [[Charizard (SSBU)]].'' | ||
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However, Ivysaur did receive a few notable nerfs. Ivysaur's [[weight]] has been decreased, which combined with the removal of [[momentum canceling]] hinders its survivability. Although [[forward tilt]] connects much more reliably due to the weakening of SDI, it has noticeably more startup, while it retains high ending lag and a lack of KO power. Some of Ivysaur's KO options were toned down as well, such as [[dash attack]], [[forward smash]], [[forward aerial]], and its notorious up aerial and [[up smash]], with the latter no longer being the strongest in the game. Most importantly, however, Bullet Seed has slower startup with no intangibility, and racks up a significantly lower amount of damage due to its shortened duration, greatly reducing its utility despite the new finisher. As a result, Ivysaur is more reliant on racking up damage with its various buffed moves to KO effectively, which is exacerbated by all its aerials except neutral and down aerial launching at upward angles that are ineffective for edgeguarding, often compelling the player to switch to Charizard and utilize its greater KO potential once opponents are at high percents. | However, Ivysaur did receive a few notable nerfs. Ivysaur's [[weight]] has been decreased, which combined with the removal of [[momentum canceling]] hinders its survivability. Although [[forward tilt]] connects much more reliably due to the weakening of SDI, it has noticeably more startup, while it retains high ending lag and a lack of KO power. Some of Ivysaur's KO options were toned down as well, such as [[dash attack]], [[forward smash]], [[forward aerial]], and its notorious up aerial and [[up smash]], with the latter no longer being the strongest in the game. Most importantly, however, Bullet Seed has slower startup with no intangibility, and racks up a significantly lower amount of damage due to its shortened duration, greatly reducing its utility despite the new finisher. As a result, Ivysaur is more reliant on racking up damage with its various buffed moves to KO effectively, which is exacerbated by all its aerials except neutral and down aerial launching at upward angles that are ineffective for edgeguarding, often compelling the player to switch to Charizard and utilize its greater KO potential once opponents are at high percents. | ||
All in all, Ivysaur has become a drastically better character since its introduction in ''Brawl'', especially relative to the rest of the cast. While it has been retooled to fit more in line as the zoner the Pokémon Trainer's party, and it has received nerfs in game updates, Ivysaur is now considered to be the most useful Pokémon of the three, with traits like decent weight, disjointed attacks, a conventional projectile, and combos and setups into its most powerful moves, allowing Ivysaur to fill in the gaps its partners lack, namely Squirtle's lack of power at the cost of attack speed, Charizard's slow moveset in detriment of power, and both Pokemon's melee range in exchange for slower | All in all, Ivysaur has become a drastically better character since its introduction in ''Brawl'', especially relative to the rest of the cast. While it has been retooled to fit more in line as the zoner the Pokémon Trainer's party, and it has received nerfs in game updates, Ivysaur is now considered to be the most useful Pokémon of the three, with traits like decent weight, disjointed attacks, a conventional projectile, and combos and setups into its most powerful moves, allowing Ivysaur to fill in the gaps its partners lack, namely Squirtle's lack of power at the cost of attack speed, Charizard's slow moveset in detriment of power, and both Pokemon's melee range in exchange for slower movement speed. | ||
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=={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: The Future Champion== | =={{SSBU|Classic Mode}}: The Future Champion== | ||
[[File:SSBU Congratulations Pokémon Trainer.png|thumb|Pokémon Trainer's | [[File:SSBU Congratulations Pokémon Trainer.png|thumb|Pokémon Trainer's congratulations screen.]] | ||
Pokémon Trainer's route refers to the player's goal of becoming the {{s|bulbapedia|Pokémon Champion}} in the ''Pokémon'' games. Like in {{SSBU|Pikachu}}'s route, the opponents are all Pokémon and all rounds are on ''Pokémon'' stages. Each round will start with the Pokémon chosen on the character select screen regardless of which one was active at the end of the previous round. | Pokémon Trainer's route refers to the player's goal of becoming the {{s|bulbapedia|Pokémon Champion}} in the ''Pokémon'' games. Like in {{SSBU|Pikachu}}'s route, the opponents are all Pokémon and all rounds are on ''Pokémon'' stages. Each round will start with the Pokémon chosen on the character select screen regardless of which one was active at the end of the previous round. | ||