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:''This article is about Ivysaur's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl''. For other uses, see [[Ivysaur]]. Also, for information about Ivysaur in regards to Pokémon Trainer, see [[Pokémon Trainer (SSBB)]], [[Squirtle (SSBB)]], and [[Charizard (SSBB)]].'' | |||
{{Infobox Character | {{Infobox Character | ||
|name = Ivysaur | |name = Ivysaur | ||
|image = [[File:Ivysaur SSBB. | |image = [[File:Ivysaur SSBB.png|200px]] | ||
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|ssbgame1 = SSBU | |ssbgame1 = SSBU | ||
|availability = [[Starter character|Starter]] | |availability = [[Starter character|Starter]] | ||
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'''Ivysaur''' ({{ja|フシギソウ|Fushigisō}}, ''Fushigisou'') | {{cquote|''A seed Pokémon that excels at attacks that cover it from above.''|cite=''Brawl'' manual description}} | ||
'''Ivysaur''' ({{ja|フシギソウ|Fushigisō}}, ''Fushigisou'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]'' in a sense; it is one of three Pokémon that are played through {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}}, the other two being {{SSBB|Squirtle}} and {{SSBB|Charizard}}. Ivysaur originated from the original ''Pokémon'' game for Game Boy as the first evolved form of [[Bulbapedia:Bulbasaur|Bulbasaur]], one of the initial Pokémon the player can start out with at the beginning of the adventure. When Ivysaur moves, it sheds very small leaves, similar to {{SSBB|Pit}}'s feathers shedding when he jumps. | |||
==Attributes== | ==Attributes== | ||
Ivysaur is perhaps the most difficult Pokémon to play out of the three. It cannot overpower its foes with deadly force like Charizard can, nor can it overwhelm foes with a high rate of attack like the nimble Squirtle. Furthermore, Ivysaur's major flaws prevent it from applying the same amount of pressure in a matchup as Pokémon Trainer's other Pokémon. | Ivysaur is perhaps the most difficult Pokémon to play out of the three. It cannot overpower its foes with deadly force like Charizard can, nor can it overwhelm foes with a high rate of attack like the nimble Squirtle. Furthermore, Ivysaur's major flaws prevent it from applying the same amount of pressure in a matchup as Pokémon Trainer's other Pokémon. | ||
KOing is one of Ivysaur's big problems. Ivysaur's two most KO-capable smashes are powerful but slow. Its forward smash deals high knockback, but has rather high startup and ending lag, while its up smash, despite being the strongest up smash in the game, suffers from high startup lag and a difficult-to-land hitbox that doesn't cover much horizontal distance. Ivysaur's forward aerial, its other vertical finisher, only begins to KO at around 130%. A sweetspotted [[Vine Whip]] can make for a superb surprise KO, but its diagonal trajectory makes it difficult to land, and leaves it [[helpless]] and vulnerable to punishment in midair. Ivysaur can pop off a dash attack for a quick and rather powerful headbutt KO, but the dashing animation makes the attack highly predictable and is easily blocked by shielding. Getting KOs is worsened by the Pokémon Trainer stamina trait, should Ivysaur get tired, decreasing the knockback on all of its attacks. | KOing is one of Ivysaur's big problems. Ivysaur's two most KO-capable smashes are powerful but slow. Its forward smash deals high knockback, but has rather high startup and ending lag, while its up smash, despite being the strongest up smash in the game, suffers from high startup lag and a difficult-to-land hitbox that doesn't cover much horizontal distance. Ivysaur's forward aerial, its other vertical finisher, only begins to KO at around 130%. A sweetspotted [[Vine Whip]] can make for a superb surprise KO, but its diagonal trajectory makes it difficult to land, and leaves it [[helpless]] and vulnerable to punishment in midair. Ivysaur can pop off a dash attack for a quick and rather powerful headbutt KO, but the dashing animation makes the attack highly predictable and is easily blocked by shielding. Getting KOs is worsened by the Pokémon Trainer stamina trait, should Ivysaur get tired, decreasing the knockback on all of its attacks. | ||
Ivysaur's special moves are generally mediocre. [[Bullet Seed]] has the potential to deal upwards of 30% to an enemy, but to be knocked into the seeds, the opponent must be hit by a tiny hitbox on Ivysaur's sides at the start of the move, making it difficult to set up. The seeds are also easily [[SDI]]'ed out of, and the high ending lag leaves Ivysaur vulnerable to punishment if the move misses. [[Razor Leaf]] is Ivysaur's only ranged projectile, but its unpredictable flight path, low knockback, high startup and ending lag, and slow speed render it ineffective for purposes such as [[camping]] and harassing. | Ivysaur's special moves are generally mediocre. [[Bullet Seed]] has the potential to deal upwards of 30% to an enemy, but to be knocked into the seeds, the opponent must be hit by a tiny hitbox on Ivysaur's sides at the start of the move, making it difficult to set up. The seeds are also easily [[SDI]]'ed out of, and the high ending lag leaves Ivysaur vulnerable to punishment if the move misses. [[Razor Leaf]] is Ivysaur's only ranged projectile, but its unpredictable flight path, low knockback, high startup and ending lag, and slow speed render it ineffective for purposes such as [[camping]] and harassing. | ||
Ivysaur is burdened with its weakness to fire-based knockback. While Squirtle is the only character in the game to do water-based knockback (discounting Mario with his [[F.L.U.D.D.]]), there are many more characters than just Charizard who utilize fire-based knockback in their more powerful moves ({{SSBB|R.O.B.}}, {{SSBB|Ike}}, {{SSBB|Luigi}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, {{SSBB|Mario}}, {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}, {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}}, etc.), and have an easier time KO'ing Ivysaur as a result (one of the most notorious examples of this is Luigi with his [[Fire Jump Punch]], who can KO Ivysaur at as low as 40% | Ivysaur is burdened with its weakness to fire-based knockback. While Squirtle is the only character in the game to do water-based knockback (discounting Mario with his [[F.L.U.D.D.]]), there are many more characters than just Charizard who utilize fire-based knockback in their more powerful moves ({{SSBB|R.O.B.}}, {{SSBB|Ike}}, {{SSBB|Luigi}}, {{SSBB|Snake}}, {{SSBB|Mario}}, {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}}, {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}}, etc.), and have an easier time KO'ing Ivysaur as a result (one of the most notorious examples of this is Luigi with his [[Fire Jump Punch]], who can KO Ivysaur at as low as 40%.) It also has quite a long rolling dodge animation, making it vulnerable to punishment by an opponent. | ||
Ivysaur's worst weaknesses, though, are its atrocious air game and recovery. Ivysaur has a tough time using aerials against opponents offensively, and is frequently at risk to being pushed to the edge while airborne. Its back aerial deals extremely low damage and poor knockback, and its neutral aerial has very short range and can easily be SDI'ed out of. His up and down aerial have small vertical hitboxes; combined with the fact that using these moves midair causes a change in Ivysaur's momentum, these moves are very difficult to land. While his up aerial delivers powerful vertical knockback, his down aerial is an extremely weak [[meteor smash]] that doesn't deal meaningful knockback until very high percents, making it generally ineffective as an edgeguarding tool. Ivysaur's best aerial, his forward aerial, only covers the area directly in front of it, leaving it with few meaningful options while in the air. Its poor aerials, combined with its very slow air speed, severely cripple its aerial game. Furthermore, Ivysaur's recovery is considered among the worst in ''Brawl''. While its midair jump is decent, Ivysaur relies on its [[tether recovery]], [[Vine Whip]] to return to the stage and this move can easily be [[edgehog]]ged by opponents simply grabbing the ledge. This leaves Ivysaur with perhaps the shortest recovery in the game, and completely devastates its ability to recover safely from offstage, often dying to quick [[gimp]]s; A launch offstage is usually enough to nearly guarantee a successful edgeguard on the Pokémon. | Ivysaur's worst weaknesses, though, are its atrocious air game and recovery. Ivysaur has a tough time using aerials against opponents offensively, and is frequently at risk to being pushed to the edge while airborne. Its back aerial deals extremely low damage and poor knockback, and its neutral aerial has very short range and can easily be SDI'ed out of. His up and down aerial have small vertical hitboxes; combined with the fact that using these moves midair causes a change in Ivysaur's momentum, these moves are very difficult to land. While his up aerial delivers powerful vertical knockback, his down aerial is an extremely weak [[meteor smash]] that doesn't deal meaningful knockback until very high percents, making it generally ineffective as an edgeguarding tool. Ivysaur's best aerial, his forward aerial, only covers the area directly in front of it, leaving it with few meaningful options while in the air. Its poor aerials, combined with its very slow air speed, severely cripple its aerial game. Furthermore, Ivysaur's recovery is considered among the worst in ''Brawl''. While its midair jump is decent, Ivysaur relies on its [[tether recovery]], [[Vine Whip]] to return to the stage and this move can easily be [[edgehog]]ged by opponents simply grabbing the ledge. This leaves Ivysaur with perhaps the shortest recovery in the game, and completely devastates its ability to recover safely from offstage, often dying to quick [[gimp]]s; A launch offstage is usually enough to nearly guarantee a successful edgeguard on the Pokémon. | ||
It does have a good grab game, however; Ivysaur's vines give it one of the best [[pivot grab]]s along with {{SSBB|Yoshi}}, and its running grab sports decent range as well (the standing grab, however, has surprisingly low range and a laggy "miss" animation). Once having grabbed, Ivysaur can use either a down or forward throw to maintain stage control. | It does have a good grab game, however; Ivysaur's vines give it one of the best [[pivot grab]]s along with {{SSBB|Yoshi}}, and its running grab sports decent range as well (the standing grab, however, has surprisingly low range and a laggy "miss" animation). Once having grabbed, Ivysaur can use either a down or forward throw to maintain stage control. | ||
In summary, Ivysaur's difficulties KO'ing opponents, poor air game, laggy attacks, short reach, and atrocious recovery leave it as the clear runt of the litter among the three Generation I starter Pokémon. Competitive players argue that if Ivysaur was a standalone fighter, due to its lack of prominent strengths and debilitating flaws, it would be a contender for the worst character in the game, competing with bottom-tier characters such as | In summary, Ivysaur's difficulties KO'ing opponents, poor air game, laggy attacks, short reach, and atrocious recovery leave it as the clear runt of the litter among the three Generation I starter Pokémon. Competitive players argue that if Ivysaur was a standalone fighter, due to its lack of prominent strengths and debilitating flaws, it would be a contender for the worst character in the game, competing with bottom-tier characters such as {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}}, {{SSBB|Zelda}}, and {{SSBB|Ganondorf}}. | ||
==Moveset== | ==Moveset== | ||
{{MovesetTable | {{MovesetTable | ||
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|fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|16}} | |fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|16}} | ||
|fsmashdesc=Ivysaur plants its vines on the ground and launches its body forward. Can be angled. | |fsmashdesc=Ivysaur plants its vines on the ground and launches its body forward. Can be angled. | ||
|usmashname= | |usmashname= | ||
|usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|17}} | |usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSBB|17}} | ||
|usmashdesc=Ivysaur launches a burst of spores from its bulb. It is the strongest up smash in terms of knockback and has decent range. | |usmashdesc=Ivysaur launches a burst of spores from its bulb. It is the strongest up smash in terms of knockback and has decent range. | ||
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|dsdesc=The {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} calls Ivysaur back by throwing a Poké Ball and then sends out {{SSBB|Charizard}}. | |dsdesc=The {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} calls Ivysaur back by throwing a Poké Ball and then sends out {{SSBB|Charizard}}. | ||
|fsname=Triple Finish | |fsname=Triple Finish | ||
|fsdmg=1% ( | |fsdmg=1% (Solarbeam) | ||
|fsdesc=The {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} sends out both {{SSBB|Charizard}} and {{SSBB|Squirtle}} and all three Pokémon perform a combination attack. | |fsdesc=The {{SSBB|Pokémon Trainer}} sends out both {{SSBB|Charizard}} and {{SSBB|Squirtle}} and all three Pokémon perform a combination attack. | ||
}} | }} | ||
===[[On-screen appearance]]=== | ===[[On-screen appearance]]=== | ||
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|pitch-us=Group chant | |pitch-us=Group chant | ||
|pitch-jp=Group chant}} | |pitch-jp=Group chant}} | ||
===[[Wii Remote selection sound]]=== | |||
{{SelectSound|char=Pokémon Trainer|desc=The Trainer releases a Poké Ball and says "Go for it!".}} | |||
===[[Victory pose]]s=== | ===[[Victory pose]]s=== | ||
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|char=Ivysaur}} | |char=Ivysaur}} | ||
==In | ==In [[competitive play]]== | ||
=== | ===Matchups=== | ||
{{SSBBMatchupTable|pokemontrainer=yes|ivysaur=yes}} | |||
== | ==Role in [[The Subspace Emissary]]== | ||
{{main|Pokémon Trainer (SSBB)#Role in The Subspace Emissary|l1=Pokémon Trainer}} | |||
While in the ruins, {{SSBB|Lucas}} and Pokémon Trainer discover Ivysaur in [[trophy]] form at the end of a torch-lit hallway. Pokémon Trainer then easily captures it, adding it to his team. Since Ivysaur is not seen again in a cutscene, it is the only character that is not seen outside of its trophy form during cutscenes in ''The Subspace Emissary'' (not counting the credits). | |||
== | ==In [[Event Matches]]== | ||
''Note: Ivysaur is only featured in one event that does not include the Pokémon Trainer.'' | ''Note: Ivysaur is only featured in one event that does not include the Pokémon Trainer.'' | ||
===Solo Events=== | |||
*'''[[Event 8: Go! Triple Finish!]]''': The player controls Pikachu, who must defeat {{SSBB|Squirtle}}, Ivysaur, and {{SSBB|Charizard}} on [[Pokémon Stadium]]. | *'''[[Event 8: Go! Triple Finish!]]''': The player controls Pikachu, who must defeat {{SSBB|Squirtle}}, Ivysaur, and {{SSBB|Charizard}} on [[Pokémon Stadium]]. | ||
=== | ==Trophy== | ||
Ivysaur's trophy is obtained by clearing {{SSBB|Classic Mode}} with the Pokémon Trainer and must deliver the final hit to {{SSBB|Master Hand}} with Ivysaur. | |||
===Description=== | |||
''A Seed Pokémon that is the evolved form of Bulbasaur. It has a flower bulb on its back, the weight of which has made it develop strong legs and hips. If the blossom gets too big, the Pokémon can't stand on two legs alone. At a certain level, it evolves into Venusaur. When this happens, the bulb absorbs nutrients and blossoms into a large-petaled flower.'' | |||
{{Trophy games|console1=GB|game1={{iw|bulbapedia|Pokémon Red/Blue}}|console2=GBA|game2={{iw|bulbapedia|Pokémon FireRed/LeafGreen}}}} | |||
<center> | <center> | ||
<gallery> | <gallery> | ||
Ivysaur - Brawl Trophy.png|Classic | |||
</gallery> | </gallery> | ||
</center> | </center> | ||
==[[Alternate costume (SSBB)#Pokémon Trainer|Alternate costumes]]== | ==[[Alternate costume (SSBB)#Pokémon Trainer|Alternate costumes]]== | ||
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|{{Head|Ivysaur|g=SSBB|s=25px|cl=White}} | |{{Head|Ivysaur|g=SSBB|s=25px|cl=White}} | ||
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==Trivia== | ==Trivia== | ||
*Unlike other characters, when Ivysaur crouches repetitively, the animation doesn't completely finish; the bud on its back will stand up straight. | *Unlike other characters, when Ivysaur crouches repetitively, the animation doesn't completely finish; the bud on its back will stand up straight. | ||
*If characters try to grab Ivysaur, they will be grabbing its bud even when grabbing in front of it. | *If characters try to grab Ivysaur, they will be grabbing its bud even when grabbing in front of it. | ||
*Ivysaur is one of the only characters who never uses any of | *Ivysaur is one of the only characters who never uses any of its frontal limbs (or any of its limbs) for any attack (including grabs), the other being Yoshi (though Yoshi still uses items with his hands). | ||
* | *It is never explained why Ivysaur is a trophy in the SSE, nor why it is in the Ruins in the first place. | ||
*According to the Pokédex, Ivysaur is supposed to weigh a mere 28.7 pounds. Despite this, Ivysaur is one of the heavier characters in ''Brawl'' with a weight value of 100, which is as heavy as {{SSBB|Lucario}}, a Pokémon that is supposed to weigh more than four times as much as Ivysaur. | |||
*According to the Pokédex, Ivysaur is supposed to weigh a mere 28.7 pounds | *Unlike Charizard and Squirtle, none of Ivysaur's special moves are HMs from the original ''Pokémon'' games. | ||
*Unlike Charizard and Squirtle, none of Ivysaur's special moves are HMs | |||
==External links== | ==External links== | ||
*[ | *[http://www.smashbros.com/wii/en_us/characters/pokemon_trainer.html Pokémon Trainer's page at ''Smash Bros DOJO!!''] | ||
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