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| {{disambig2|Ike's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''|the character in other contexts|Ike}} | | {{disambig2|Ike's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''|the character in other contexts|Ike}} |
| {{Infobox Character | | {{Infobox Character |
| |name = Ike | | |name = Ike |
| |image = [[File:Ike SSB4.png|250px]] | | |image = [[Image:Ike SSB4.png|250px|Ike]] |
| |game = SSB4 | | |game = SSB4 |
| |ssbgame1 = SSBB | | |ssbgame1 = SSBB |
| |ssbgame2 = SSBU
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| |availability = [[Starter character|Starter]] | | |availability = [[Starter character|Starter]] |
| |tier = E
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| |ranking = 39
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| }} | | }} |
| '''Ike''' ({{ja|アイク|Aiku}}, ''Ike'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. His return to the series was announced in a [[List of Director's Room Miiverse posts|Director's Room Miiverse post]] on May 23rd, 2014, which coincided with the ninth anniversary of the North American release of ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones}}''. | | '''Ike''' ({{ja|アイク|Aiku}}, ''Ike'') returns as a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. He was announced on May 23rd, 2014, in a [[List of Director's Room Miiverse posts|Director's Room Miiverse post]], which was the same day that ''Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones'' was released in North America back in 2005. |
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| Jason Adkins and Michihiko Hagi reprise their roles as Ike's voice actors in the English and Japanese versions, respectively, albeit via recycled voice clips from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''.
| | Ike is once again voiced by Michihiko Hagi in the Japanese version, and by Jason Adkins in non-Japanese versions, using the same voice clips from ''Brawl''. |
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| Ike is ranked 39th out of 54 on the [[tier list]], placing him near the top of the E tier. This is a moderate drop from his placement in ''Brawl'', where he was ranked 23rd out of 38. In addition to largely retaining his renowned power and range, Ike's overall mobility has noticeably improved, thanks to his faster [[dash]]ing and [[air speed]]s, and higher [[double jump]]. His frame data has also fairly improved, with the most obvious improvements being his tilts and aerials. He also benefits from the changes to gameplay mechanics: [[rage]] supplements his power; the changes to [[hitstun canceling]] have made his up and down throws into very useful combo starters; and the updated edge mechanics supplement his [[recovery]].
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| However, Ike has received some nerfs, and he also retains his flaws from ''Brawl''. His [[jab cancel]], which was perhaps his best damage-racking option in the previous game, is now extremely situational due to his [[neutral attack]]’s higher overall lag. His high [[weight]] renders his overall mobility as below-average at best in spite of its improvements, making him vulnerable to rushdowns and combos. His lack of any [[projectile]] also leaves him susceptible to [[camp]]ing. Ike also has very few sufficiently fast moves (with [[jab]] and [[back aerial]] being some of his only moves that come out faster than frame 10), as well as high ending lag in many attacks. In return for Ike’s attacks having better frame data overall, most of them have significantly decreased knockback, slightly lower damage output, and shorter range. His already large hurtbox is slightly taller. Finally, Ike’s recovery is still predictable and linear, making it vulnerable to attacks when ascending.
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| While Ike has attained greater degrees of success prior to [[1.1.6]], thanks to the likes of {{Sm|Ryo}}, {{Sm|SM}}, {{Sm|San}}, and {{Sm|Waldo}}, his playerbase's success has stagnated afterwards.
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| ==Attributes== | | ==Attributes== |
| Ike is a [[Weight|heavyweight]], being tied with {{SSB4|Wario}} as the eighth heaviest character in ''SSB4''. Unsurprisingly, he has below-average [[walk]]ing speed and [[air acceleration]]; slightly below-average [[dash]]ing speed; above-average [[falling speed]], [[air speed]] and [[gravity]]; and a low [[jump]] and [[double jump]]. | | Ike is no longer one of the slowest characters in the game, although much of his playstyle remains unchanged: a heavyweight with slow, but incredibly powerful attacks. He has been buffed in areas to compliment his aforementioned playstyle, with him having much better mobility than before in his ground and air speeds, as well as his jumps being improved. In addition, some of his attacks have reduced start-up and ending lag but deal less damage to compensate, improving some of his moves such as his [[forward tilt]] and aerials, giving him new combo potential while toning down some of the overwhelming power he possessed in the previous game. His smash attacks, however, have been virtually unchanged: they are still some of the strongest smash attacks in the game and punishable if whiffed or used without consideration. Due to this, Ike still mainly relies on reads in order to KO his opponents with his smash attacks. |
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| Ike's good [[approach]] is a noticeable divergence from the heavyweight archetype, though it is a trait shared with his fellow heavyweight swordsmen {{SSB4|Shulk}} and {{SSB4|Cloud}}. His sword, {{s|fireemblemwiki|Ragnell}}, grants him a very long and disjointed range that is surpassed only by Shulk's Monado and Cloud's Buster Sword. Neutral, forward and back aerials are good approach options: in addition to their ability to [[Auto-canceling|auto-cancel]] with a [[short hop]], the former has low landing lag, whereas the latter two are safe on shield thanks to their high [[shieldstun]]. Forward aerial, in particular, boasts a good damage output, high knockback growth, and large range in front of Ike. Aside from being his most reliable approach option because of these traits, it also makes him a surprisingly difficult character to [[Punishment|punish]] when it is used properly. In addition, his aerials' speed and ranges make him capable at [[Pressure|pressuring]] opponents.
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| Ike's [[combo]] game consists of numerous moves that are able to flow consistently with each other up to medium percentages. His down tilt, [[Short hop fast fall L-cancel#Short hop fast fall|SHFF]]'d neutral aerial, up throw and down throw all launch opponents at favorable angles, allowing him to follow up with his aerials and thus perform short, yet impressively damaging combos. Up throw is particularly notable, as its low knockback growth enables it to combo into forward or up aerials even at high percentages, which provides Ike with a few invaluable KO set-ups. Although not as consistent as his aforementioned moves, up tilt, forward aerial and back throw also have combo potential: up tilt is a useful anti-air attack that can also be used for [[juggle]]s; forward aerial can combo into itself up to three times at medium percentages when auto-canceled; and back throw can [[Tech-chasing|tech-chase]] into dash attack at low to medium percentages.
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| All of Ike's smash attacks are among the strongest of their respective kinds; his clean tipped forward smash, in particular, is notably the seventh strongest forward smash in the game. Forward and up smashes both have long ranges, which also grants them utility against both grounded and aerial opponents. Up smash, in particular, covers a wide, overhead arc around Ike; when coupled with its long duration, it is a deadly option while at the edge and for punishing [[roll]]s. Although Ike's smash attacks suffer from extreme amounts of start-up and ending lag, he is not reliant on them to KO.
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| In addition to their aforementioned approach potentials, Ike's forward and back aerials boast impressive power, making them safe KOing options while near the edge or especially while edge-guarding. On a related note, Ike also has an effective edge-guarding game: in addition to forward and back aerials, down aerial's tip is an impressively damaging [[meteor smash]], while [[Eruption]] is a [[charge]]able move that boasts a large hitbox regardless of its charge, and devastating power even when it is only partially charged. Furthermore, Ike's excellent endurance enables him to use [[rage]] effectively, which boosts his already high power.
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| However, Ike has a number of flaws. His size, weight and falling speed leave him vulnerable to combos and rushdown-oriented characters, which is further compounded by his lack of options to quickly and reliably break out of them. As he is a melee-oriented character, Ike lacks a projectile, putting him at a disadvantage against [[camp]]ing tactics. Ike's weak [[out of shield]] potential further compounds his susceptibility to pressure: his below-average grab range and very low [[traction]] hinder his otherwise great grab game, while he lacks options to immediately retaliate because the overwhelming majority of his grounded moves have moderate start-up lag. By extension, the lag issues within Ike's moveset hinder his overall approach: it renders his grounded approach as comparatively poor and overall predictable, whereas his aerial approach requires proper spacing and timing in order to be effective.
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| Ike's recovery is also problematic. [[Aether]] and [[Quick Draw]] are highly predictable because they function strictly as vertical and strictly horizontal recovery options, respectively. In addition to rendering Ike susceptible to [[semi-spike]]s, both of these moves are further compounded by specific faults. Quick Draw must be charged in order to cover more distance, and unless it hits an opponent, it renders Ike [[helpless]] and thus cannot be used in tandem with Aether. In comparison, Aether's horizontal distance is almost nonexistent even with directional input, which can lead to an invariable [[self-destruct]] if it is used too far from the edge.
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| Ike gains some benefits from his [[Character customization|custom moves]]. Both Tempest and Furious Eruption improve his already good edge-guarding potential, yet possess noticeable traits. Tempest charges faster and, like [[Cape]], stalls Ike's descent when used in the air and can [[gimp]] recoveries. In comparison, Furious Eruption is noticeably stronger than Eruption, has more vertical range and launches opponents vertically, which makes it a very potent KOing option on stages with low ceilings. Close Combat grants transcendent priority during its dash, which allows it to ignore projectiles and shields, making it even better for recovering.
| | Additionally, while Ike's range was decreased, his is still among the best in the game, with only a few characters like {{SSB4|Shulk}} outclassing him in this aspect. This means he can still effectively space out opponents with his far reaching moves like forward tilt and forward air, perhaps even better than before because of the significant buffs to his attack speed. |
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| Aether Drive functions as a diagonal recovery option unlike Aether and Quick Draw, but covers less vertical distance. Aether Wave is executed faster, making it harder to gimp. It is also an excellent edge-guarding option, as it slings an energy wave upon landing. However, it covers slightly less vertical distance, has little trapping potential, and cannot meteor smash. Paralyzing Counter functions almost identically to [[Disable]]: it allows Ike to [[stun]] the opponent instead of counterattacking, but deals minuscule damage as a trade-off. Lastly, Smash Counter functions oppositely: its much higher damage multiplier enables it to [[one-hit KO]] many strong moves, although its lag is significant enough that many moves with low ending lag will allow the opponent to block the counterattack.
| | Ike's combo game has also greatly improved, with his down tilt, neutral air, down, and up throws being excellent combo starters, as they combo into his aerials and tilts. With these combos at Ike's disposal, he can easily rack damage on his opponent and lead into a KO if his opponent is not careful. |
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| Overall, Ike's optimal playstyle is largely the same as it was in ''Brawl'': he is still effective at spacing and punishing, and must utilize his useful combo game to deal damage and set up KOs. Like {{SSB4|Luigi}}, Ike's weaknesses are exploitable, but circumventing them with careful play can result in him being a formidable character, as shown by players such as {{Sm|Ryo}}.
| | While his specials were nerfed, except for [[Counter]], they still have their uses. [[Eruption]], despite losing its [[super armor]] frames when uncharged, is still effective for edge-guarding and can put Ike's opponent in a tough spot due to its flames covering more vertical distance the longer Ike charges it. [[Quick Draw]] is now stronger, has faster start-up, less landing lag and is not only a recovery move, but a faster alternative to running and can quickly catch up to Ike's opponents if they DI away. [[Aether]] is Ike's main recovery move. Aether is a mainly vertical, multi-hitting move that can clip through stages to deal extra damage on Ike's opponents. It can also spike opponents that are stuck in it throughout the duration of this move. Aether retains its super armor frames, although it has less than before. Counter allows Ike to attack his opponents back if they hit him throughout the duration of it. Depending on how strong the hit, Ike will attack back with 1.2x the damage and can KO the opponent if the opponent's attack is powerful enough. Ike can still get [[grab]]bed during the Counter and can be punished if the opponent reads Ike and successfully baits it. |
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| ==Changes from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''==
| | Ike is one of the more potent edge-guarders in the game, with Eruption and his forward aerial being good options against predictable recoveries and the introduction of edge-stealing allows him to effectively use his fast and strong back aerial to score early KOs. The additional landing lag for air dodging allows Ike to threaten and punish bad decisions with his strong attacks. As a heavy character, he also benefits from the [[rage]] mechanic, increasing his already strong knockback even further and allowing him to survive many attacks with proper DI even at high percentages. |
| Ike had received a mix of buffs and nerfs from ''Brawl'' to ''SSB4''. Ike's mobility has improved: he has noticeably faster [[dash]]ing and [[air speed]]s, as well as a higher [[double jump]], the latter of which also improved his [[neutral game]] and recovery. His overall frame data is also fairly better, with his forward aerial in particular now being a very useful approach option thanks to its range, lower start-up lag, and ability to auto-cancel with a short hop. By extension, his forward, back, up and down aerials also have significantly reduced landing lag, and no longer possess [[transcendent priority]], aiding in Ike's approach by allowing him to cancel out [[projectile]]s. Lastly, Ike benefits from the changes to gameplay mechanics. The changes to hitstun canceling significantly improve his combo game; the removal of [[edge-hogging]] improves [[Aether]] and [[Quick Draw]]'s recovery potentials; and [[rage]] boosts Ike's already high power, while his heavier weight makes him a very effective user of it. | |
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| However, Ike has also received some nerfs. To compensate for the general improvements to his frame data, his renowned power has been somewhat toned down via decreases to his damage output and the knockback of the majority of his moveset. Ike's overall range has also been decreased, making it slightly more difficult for him to space out his opponents. Ike's [[jab cancel]], which was an essential aspect of his playstyle in ''Brawl'', is now extremely situational because of his neutral attack's higher start-up and ending lag.
| | Despite Ike's increased speed, he still is heavily outmatched by the game's faster characters, such as {{SSB4|Sonic}} and {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}. While this is not only a very common problem among heavyweights, Ike's problems with speedy characters is further compounded by his small number of fast attacks and virtual lack of good [[out of shield]] options. If Ike does not play safer and fight these opponents with caution, they can easily deal quick and easy damage on him, leading to an early KO. Additionally Ike's recovery, while providing decent distance, is very predictable and easily gimped. Moves that send him at a semi spike angle are particularly dangerous, as he has almost no diagonal recovery. |
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| Aside from [[Counter]], his other special moves have been nerfed in particular ways. [[Eruption]] has been the most noticeably affected, as it now deals less damage, has less knockback, and only grants super [[armor]] when it is fully charged. Lastly, Ike's already large hurtbox is slightly larger, and he is slightly heavier. When coupled with the changes to hitstun canceling, these changes collectively make him more susceptible to combos than in ''Brawl''.
| | With [[Character customization|custom moves]] on, Ike does gain some benefits. Furious Eruption and Tempest improve his already good edge-guarding ability. Furious Eruption is stronger, has more vertical distance and launches foes upwards, making it very good on stages with low ceilings. Tempest charges faster and generates a windbox that pushes opponents far and is able to [[gimp]] recoveries. Tempest also stalls Ike in the air which can aid Ike's recovery if used correctly. Close Combat has [[Priority]] allowing it to ignore projectiles and shields which helps Ike when recovering. Aether Drive grants him another horizontal recovery at the the cost of vertical distance. Paralyzing Counter allows Ike stun the opponent allowing for a follow-up attack, at the cost of his counter being significantly weaker. |
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| Overall, Ike has been re-balanced with his weaknesses becoming less severe at the cost of his previous strengths being noticeably toned down. Ike is faster both in terms of mobility and frame data and has a better recovery in exchange for less range and power (especially when relative to the cast). While he gained a few new useful tools (most of which due to the changes to the game's mechanics), he also lost one of his most vital tools in the form of his jab. His representation in competitive play: despite initially being minimal, it has expanded over time thanks to the numerous buffs he received from game updates, while his still relatively small playerbase has managed to achieve average results at regional and even national tournaments.
| | ==Changes from ''Brawl''== |
| | Ike was notably buffed overall as of update [[1.1.1]] in ''SSB4''. Although Ike retains his raw power, most of his attacks have been weakened. To further compound this, his attacks now have shorter range. He also lost his effective jab cancel and thus, an effective way to rack up damage. However, these nerfs are largely mitigated by the significant improvements to his combo game and recovery options, lessened lag (start-up, ending and landing) to most of his attacks, and his successful adaptation to the general gameplay changes brought about by ''SSB4''. Ike's tournament representation was originally lackluster, although his many buffs through patches have gradually improved his representation and results, as can be seen with [[The Big House 5]] and [[MLG 2015]] with three Ike players placing in the Top 25 in the former. |
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| ===Aesthetics=== | | ===Aesthetics=== |
| *{{change|Ike's design is now based on his appearance as a {{s|fireemblemwiki|Hero}} in ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn}}''.}} | | *{{change|Rather than using his design from ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance}}'' as was the case in ''Brawl'', his design is now based on his appearance in ''Path of Radiance'''s sequel, ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Radiant Dawn}}''.}} His eyes are also smaller and more stern. |
| *{{change|Ike has received three new [[alternate costume]]s, which are based on his father {{s|fireemblemwiki|Greil}}, the [[Black Knight]], and [[Chrom]], respectively.}}
| | *{{change|Moves that involve the use of flames ([[Eruption]] and [[Great Aether]]) have changed to be a blue color, which match his Japanese title as the "Hero of the Blue Flames" as well as his empowerment by the goddess Yune during the climax of ''Radiant Dawn''.}} |
| *{{change|Ike's eye color is now slightly subdued. {{s|fireemblemwiki|Ragnell}}'s pommel and the upper portion of its grip are also now darker. These changes are unique to ''SSB4''.}}
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| *{{change|Ike is slightly more expressive.}}
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| *{{change|Ike's boots' sound clips are higher pitched.}}
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| *{{change|Ragnell's blade is now satin sheen gold, instead of metallic gold. Additionally, the base of its blade is now very slightly wider, similarly to its tip, and has a very small circular gem embedded in it. Lastly, its grip, cross-guard and pommel are now slightly larger. Altogether, these changes make Ragnell appear more in line with its appearances in ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance}}'' and ''Radiant Dawn''.}}
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| *{{change|Ragnell's flames are now sky blue, instead of orange. This makes them appear virtually identical to the fiery aura that Ike emits upon being blessed by {{s|fireemblemwiki|Yune}} during the final battle against {{s|fireemblemwiki|Ashera}} in ''Radiant Dawn''. Its swings' sound clips are also higher pitched.}}
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| *{{change|Up and side [[taunt]]s have updated sound effects.}} | |
| *{{change|Ike's previously unused damage yells from ''Brawl''{{'}}s [[Sound Test]] are now heard when taking high knockback.}}
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| ===Attributes=== | | ===Attributes=== |
| *{{nerf|Ike is taller, making his hurtbox slightly larger.}}
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| *{{nerf|Ike [[walk]]s slower (0.88 → 0.869).}}
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| *{{buff|Ike [[dash]]es faster (1.371 → 1.5).}}
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| *{{buff|Ike's [[air speed]] is noticeably higher (0.9212 → 1.08), going from the 22nd fastest out of 39 characters to the 21st highest out of 58.}}
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| *{{buff|Ike is [[weight|heavier]] (105 → 107).}} | | *{{buff|Ike is [[weight|heavier]] (105 → 107).}} |
| *{{buff|Ike's [[double jump]] is higher (height multiplier: 0.88x → 1.037x).}} | | *{{nerf|Ike [[Walking|walks]] slower (0.88 → 0.869).}} |
| *{{change|Ike's [[gravity]] is higher (0.0837 → 0.092).}} | | *{{buff|Ike [[dashing|dashes]] faster (1.371 → 1.5).}} |
| *{{buff|[[Roll]]s have less ending lag (FAF 34 (front)/ 38 (back) → 33 (both)).}} | | *{{buff|Ike's [[air speed]] was increased (0.9212 → 1.08).}} |
| *{{nerf|Rolls have a slightly shorter duration (frames 4-19 → 4-18).}}
| | *{{buff|Ike's [[double jump]] has greater vertical height.}} |
| *{{buff|Air dodge has less startup (frame 4 → 3) and ending lag (FAF 40 → 34).}} | | *{{nerf|Ike's [[Jumping|jumpsquat]] is 1 frame slower (6 frames → 7).}} |
| *{{nerf|Spot dodge has more startup lag with a shorter duration (frames 2-20 → 3-18) and it has increased ending lag (FAF 26 → 28).}} | | *{{nerf|The majority of Ike's attacks have less [[reach]] because of reduced hitbox sizes and altered placements.}} |
| *{{buff|Ike's item throw is stronger (1 → 1.023333).}}
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| *{{change|The changes to [[hitstun canceling]] and [[Directional Influence]] both help and hinder Ike. They significantly improve his combo potential out of specific moves, but make him more susceptible to combos and preventing him from making use of [[momentum canceling]], hindering his endurance.}} | |
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| ===Ground attacks=== | | ===Ground attacks=== |
| *[[Neutral attack]]: | | *{{buff|[[Neutral attack]] transitions into its later hits faster.}} |
| **{{nerf|Neutral attack deals less damage (4% (hit 1)/5% (hit 2)/7% (hit 3) → 3% (hits 1-2)/5% (hit 3)) and the final hit's knockback was not compensated, hindering its damage racking and KO potential.}}
| | *{{nerf|Neutral attack deals 5% less damage (16% → 11%) and hits 1 and 2 have increased cooldown ([[interruptibility]] frame 17 → 24 (hit 1), interruptibility frame 20 → 28 (hit 2)), the latter of which takes away his effective [[jab cancel]]. Hit 1 has slightly slower start-up (frame 3 → 4), and hit 3 has lost all of its KOing potential.}} |
| **{{nerf|All three hits have more ending lag (FAF 17 (hit 1)/20 (hit 2)/38 (hit 3) → 24/28/39), hindering their safety as well as the first two hits' [[jab cancel]]ing potential.}}
| | *{{buff|[[Dash attack]] deals 6% more damage (8% → 14%), has reduced start-up (frame 18 → 15) and increased knockback growth (70 → 78). The attack has a new 9% late hitbox, which lasts 3 extra frames with strength that still overtakes the previous dash attack's knockback (70 base/70 growth → 60/100).}} |
| **{{nerf|The first hit has more startup lag (frame 3 → 4).}}
| | *{{buff|[[Forward tilt]] has reduced start-up (frame 17 → 13) with significantly less [[cooldown]] (interruptibility frame 56 → 42).}} |
| **{{nerf|The first hit resets itself later when held (frame 15 → 20).}}
| | *{{nerf|Forward tilt deals 2.5% less damage (15% → 12.5%) and decreased knockback (38 base/100 growth → 30/97).}} |
| **{{buff|The first hit transitions into the second hit earlier (frame 12 → 11).}}
| | *{{buff|[[Up tilt]] deals 2% more damage (12% → 14%), has reduced start-up (frame 13 → 11) and slightly less cooldown (interruptibility fram 50 → 48).}} |
| **{{buff|The first hit has an altered animation where Ike now moves forward more. This gives it more range despite it now having a static hitbox.}}
| | *{{nerf|Up tilt has decreased base knockback (70 → 50), KOing 20% later. The weak hit also has reduced active frames (14 frames → 8).}} |
| ***{{nerf|However, the hitbox does not extend as far inside of Ike, giving it less range inside of him.}}
| | *{{buff|[[Down tilt]] has significantly reduced start-up (frame 16 → 7) with drastically less cooldown (interruptibility frame 55 → 29). All hitboxes have a consistent 80° trajectory, which grants Ike reliable follow-ups at low to medium percents.}} |
| **{{change|The first hit now has one extended hitbox instead of three separate hitboxes giving it consistent set knockback (50/40/30 → 50).}}
| | *{{nerf|Down tilt deals 6% less damage (14% → 8%) and can no longer [[meteor smash]].}} |
| ***{{buff|This gives the move more hitstun at far ranges, improving its jab canceling potential (although this is offset by the move's higher ending lag).}}
| | *{{buff|[[Forward smash]] has an additional active frame, increasing its reliability against aerial opponents.}} |
| ***{{nerf|However, this also hinders its ability to lead into the second hit at far ranges, especially since it launches opponents at a lower angle compared to the previous far hitbox (70° → 65°).}}
| | *{{nerf|Forward smash is weaker (50 base/100 growth → 40/90), going from the second strongest forward smash in ''Brawl'' to the fifth strongest forward smash in ''SSB4''. It also has increased cooldown (interruptibility frame 80 → 84).}} |
| **{{nerf|The second hit transitions into the third hit later (frame 8 → 12).}}
| | *{{buff|[[Down smash]] deals 1% more damage (13%/17% → 14%/18%) with increased base knockback (30 → 40). It also sends opponents at a more horizontal angle.}} |
| **{{nerf|The second hit transitions into the first hit later when held later (frame 13 → 18).}}
| | *{{nerf|The late hit of down smash's second swing has reduced active frames (9 frames → 3).}} |
| **{{nerf|The second hit has a new animation where Ike does not kick as far forward and the move now uses smaller static hitboxes (5u/5u/5u → 3.5u/3.5u/4.5u). This gives the move less range.}}
| | *{{buff|[[Up smash]] has more knockback growth (85 → 86).}} |
| ***{{buff|However, the move now has two far hitboxes which are positioned at different heights, giving the move more vertical range.}}
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| **{{buff|The second hit's further hitboxes deal less knockback (50/40 (set), 80/100 (scaling) → (40/25)/80), improving the move's ability to lead into the third hit.}}
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| ***{{change|The second hit's higher hitbox also launches opponents at a higher angle (65° → 80°).}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, when combined with the move's higher ending lag, this significantly hinders its jab canceling potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|The second hit's nearest hitbox has higher set knockback (30 → 50) and it launches opponents at a higher angle (20° → 65°), hindering its ability to lead into the third hit.}}
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| ***{{buff|However, this also improves its jab canceling potential (although this is offset by the move's higher ending lag).}}
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| **{{buff|The third hit has less startup lag (frame 10 → 5).}}
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| **{{nerf|The third hit has a shorter duration (frames 10-14 → 5-8).}}
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| **{{buff|The third hit's nearest hitboxes are larger (3u/2.5u → 4u/3.3u).}}
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| **{{nerf|The third hits furthest hitbox has been moved closer to Ike (y offset: 13 → 12) while the nearest hitbox has been moved further away from him (y offset: 0 → 1), reducing its range.}}
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| *[[Forward tilt]]:
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| **{{buff|Forward tilt has less startup (frame 17 → 13) and ending lag (FAF 56 → 44).}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward tilt has a shorter duration (frames 17-19 → 13-14).}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward tilt deals less damage (15% (blade)/14% (upper body) → 12.5%) and knockback (38 (base), 100 (scaling) → 30/97), significantly hindering its KO potential.}}
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| ***{{buff|However, it does deal more damage than the previous lower body hitbox (12% → 12.5%), although its knockback is still lower.}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward tilt now consists of one extended hitbox instead of four normal hitboxes. This hitbox is the same size as the previous upper body hitbox and it also does not extend as far horizontally (particularly for the angled variants), giving it less range, especially the down angled version.}}
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| ***{{nerf|The move also does not cover Ike's lower body, giving it less range below him, especially the up angled version.}}
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| **{{change|Forward tilt's hitbox is now static, rather than being attached to Ike's sword. This gives it more consistent horizontal range but removes its ability to hit opponents far into the Z-axis.}}
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| **{{buff|Up tilt has less startup lag (frame 13 → 11) with its total duration subsequently reduced (FAF 50 → 48).}}
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| **{{buff|The clean hit deals more damage, especially behind Ike (9% (behind)/12% (sword) → 14%).}}
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| **{{change|Up tilt now uses one extended hitbox rather than four normal hitboxes.}}
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| ***{{nerf|This new hitbox does not extend as far behind the sword (y offset: -2 → y stretch: 1) and the late hit also does not extend as far away from the sword (y offset: 13 → 12), giving up tilt less range in all directions overall.}}
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| **{{nerf|Up tilt has a shorter duration (frames 13-15 (clean)/16-28 (late) → 11-13/14-21).}}
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| **{{nerf|Up tilt has lower base knockback (70 → 50). This hinders the clean hit's KO potential on tournament legal stages (excluding the previous sourspot) as well as noticeably hindering the late hit's KO potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|Up tilt now launches opponents at a consistent angle (85°/88°/92°/95° → 95° (clean)/85° (late), making it easier to DI as well as hindering its KO potential at the middle of the sword.}}
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| **{{nerf|The clean hit has a smaller hitbox (6u → 5u).}}
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| *[[Down tilt]]:
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| **{{buff|Down tilt has drastically lower startup (frame 16 → 7) and ending lag (FAF 55 → 29).}}
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| **{{nerf|Down tilt deals much less damage (14% → 8%) and knockback (55 (base), 100 (scaling) → 70/70), greatly hindering its KO potential.}}
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| **{{change|Down tilt now consistently launches opponents upwards (270° (tip)/361° (hilt) → 80° (all)), no longer being a [[meteor smash]].}}
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| ***{{buff|When combined with its much faster speed, lower power and the changes to hitstun canceling and DI, these changes greatly improve its combo potential at lower percents.}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, these changes also significantly hinder its edgeguarding and spacing potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down tilt has smaller hitboxes (4u/4u/4u/4u → 3.8u/3.8u/3.8u/3.8u) and the furthest hitboxes have been moved closer to Ike (y offset: 10/16 → 9/13), reducing its range.}}
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| *[[Dash attack]]:
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| **{{buff|Dash attack has less startup lag (frame 18 → 15).}}
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| **{{buff|Dash attack deals more damage (8% (far)/7% (near) → 14%/11%) and has increased knockback scaling (70 → 78), greatly improving its KO potential despite its less favorable launch angle (361° (far)/80° (back) → 52°).}}
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| **{{buff|Dash attack now has a late hitbox from frames 17-19 which deals 9%, more knockback (70 (base), 70 (scaling) → 60/100) and launches opponents at a 45° angle. This extends dash attack's duration (frames 18-19 → 15-16/17-19).}}
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| **{{nerf|Dash attack has more ending lag (FAF 51 → 53).}}
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| **{{nerf|Dash attack covers less distance.}}
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| **{{nerf|Dash attack has smaller hitboxes (7u/5u/5u → 6u/4u). When combined with its shorter distance, this reduces dash attack's range despite its longer duration as well as the far hitbox being moved further away from Ike (z offset: 17 → 17.5).}}
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| **{{nerf|The near hit now uses one extended hitbox which does not extend as far behind Ike (z offset: -2 → 2.5), giving dash attack less range behind Ike.}}
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| *[[Forward smash]]:
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| **{{buff|Forward smash has a longer duration (frames 31-32 (clean)/33-34 (late) → 31-32/33-35).}}
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| **{{buff|Forward smash has a new animation where Ike does a larger sword swing. This gives it slightly more range.}}
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| **{{buff|The late hit's far hitbox deals more damage (17% → 19%).}}
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| **{{buff|The late hit's hilt hitbox is larger (5u → 5.3u).}}
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| **{{change|The late hit's middle hitbox has been moved further away from Ike (y offset: 6.5 → 7).}}
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| **{{change|The late hit's far hitbox launches opponents at a lower angle (60° → 57°).}}
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| **{{change|The late hit's far hitbox is positioned lower (z offset: -5 → -4).}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward smash has more ending lag (FAF 80 → 84).}}
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| **{{nerf|The early hit deals less damage (22% → 19%) and knockback (50 (base), 100 (scaling) → 40/90), considerably hindering its KO potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|The early hit has smaller hitboxes (6u/5u → 4u/3u).}}
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| **{{nerf|The late hit deals less knockback (45/50 (base), 100 (scaling) → 40/86), hindering its KO potential, even for the far hit despite its higher damage.}}
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| **{{nerf|The late hit's back hitbox has been removed and the hilt hitbox has been moved further away from Ike (y offset: 0 → 2), giving it much less range behind Ike.}}
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| **{{nerf|The late hit's far hitbox is smaller (6u → 5.5u) although it has been moved further away from Ike to retain its horizontal range (y offset: 10.5 → 11).}}
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| *[[Up smash]]:
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| **{{buff|Up smash's clean hit has slightly increased knockback scaling (85 → 86), slightly improving its KO potential.}}
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| **{{buff|The clean hit's hitboxes have swapped priority, making the hitboxes with higher launch angles easier to land.}}
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| **{{buff|The late hit now uses one extended hitbox which extends further inside of Ike (z offset: 2 → z stretch: 6), giving it more range in front of Ike.}}
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| **{{change|Up smash no longer has [[transcendent priority]].}}
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| **{{nerf|Up smash has more ending lag (FAF 67 → 71).}}
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| **{{nerf|The clean hit's far hitboxes have been moved closer to Ike (y offset: 12/8 → 11/7.5) and the move has a new animation where Ike does not swing his sword as far horizontally, reducing its range.}}
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| **{{nerf|The late hit deals much less damage (19% → 10%), greatly hindering its KO potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|The removal of [[DACUS]] slightly hinders up smash's approach potential.}}
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| *[[Down smash]]:
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| **{{buff|Down smash's first and clean second hits deal more damage (13% (hit 1)/16% (hit 2 clean) → 14%/17%) and have higher base knockback (30 → 40).}}
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| **{{change|Down smash no longer has transcendent priority.}}
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| **{{change|The first and clean second hit launch opponents at a lower, consistent angle (65°/70°/75°/82° → 48°).}}
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| ***{{buff|This improves their KO potential near the horizontal blastzone.}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, this also hinders their KO potential from centre stage and especially when near the vertical blastzone, particularly when landing the hilt.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash has more ending lag (FAF 70 → 71).}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash has a new animation where Ike does not swing his sword as far in either direction. This gives it less range despite the first and clean second hit's hitboxes being moved further away from Ike (y offset: 12/-12 → 15/-15).}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash does not extend as far inside of Ike (y offset: 0 → y stretch: 4), giving it less range inside of Ike.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down smash has a shorter duration (frames 13-16 (hit 1)/32-35 (hit 2 clean)/36-44 (hit 2 late) → 13-15/32-33/34-36).}}
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| **{{nerf|The first and clean second hit have smaller hitboxes (5u (hit 1)/6u (clean hit 2) → 4.2u (both)).}}
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| **{{nerf|The late second hit launches opponents at a lower, consistent angle (65°/70°/75°/82° → 61°) which overall hinders its KO potential, particularly when landing the hilt.}}
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| ===Aerial attacks=== | | ===Aerial attacks=== |
| *{{buff|All aerials no longer have transcendent priority, allowing them to cancel out projectiles.}} | | *{{buff|Every aerial attack has lost its [[transcendent]] priority, which allows Ike to cancel out non transcendent projectiles.}} |
| *{{buff|All aerials except for neutral aerial have less landing lag (21 frames → 18 (forward), 21 frames → 19 (back), 18 frames → 15 (up), 28 frames → 23 (down)).}} | | *{{buff|Forward, back, up, and down aerials have reduced landing lag (22 frames → 18 (forward), 22 frames → 19 (back), 19 frames → 16 (up), 29 frames → 23 (back)).}} |
| *{{nerf|All aerials except for down aerial have shorter initial [[auto-cancel]] windows (frames 1-7 → 1-5 (neutral), frames 1-4 (forward/back) → 1 (forward)/1-2 (back), frames 1-8 → 1-5 (up)).}}
| | *{{buff|Neutral aerial has reduced start-up (frame 15 → 12) and less cooldown in the air (interruptibility frame 76 → 60). This allows Ike to successfully recover if a player accidentally presses the attack button while being pushed off-stage.}} |
| *[[Neutral aerial]]:
| | *{{nerf|Neutral aerial has a sourspot at the end that deals 6% damage. It also has 1 frame of extra landing lag (13 frames → 14).}} |
| **{{buff|Neutral aerial has less startup (frame 15 → 12) and ending lag (FAF 75 → 60).}}
| | *{{change|Forward aerial has a new animation with increased range above Ike, but decreased range below him.}} |
| **{{buff|Neutral aerial has a shorter animation (74 frames → 71), decreasing the amount of time Ike cannot grab ledges after performing the move.}}
| | *{{buff|Forward aerial has significantly reduced start-up (frame 18 → 12), less cooldown in the air (interruptibility frame 60 → 55) and can now [[auto-cancel]] from a short hop.}} |
| ***{{change|This new animation gives the move slightly more range above and behind Ike but gives it less range in front of him.}}
| | *{{nerf|Forward aerial deals 1% less damage (13% → 12%) although its base knockback has been compensated (20 → 30).}} |
| **{{buff|Neutral aerial auto-cancels earlier (frame 67 → 64).}}
| | *{{buff|Up aerial has reduced start-up (frame 15 → 13).}} |
| **{{buff|Neutral aerial deals more damage (9% → 10%) and it launches opponents at a higher angle (70° → 80°), improving its KO potential.}}
| | *{{nerf|Up aerial deals 3% less damage (14% → 11%), which notably reduces its KOing potential. Its knockback was not compensated enough (40 base/100 growth → 55/94), though it still remains one of the strongest up aerials in ''SSB4''.}} |
| ***{{buff|The move's higher launch angle combined with the changes to hitstun canceling and DI significantly improves the move's combo potential despite its higher landing lag.}}
| | *{{nerf|Down aerial deals 1% less damage (16% → 15%) with reduced based knockback (40 → 30), has a non-meteor sourspot, and has lost its lingering hitbox.}} |
| **{{nerf|Neutral aerial has a shorter duration (frames 15-32 → 12-21 (clean)/22-27 (late)) and the move has received a new late hit which deals less damage (9% → 7%).}}
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| ***{{buff|The new late hit however improves the move's combo potential at higher percents.}}
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| **{{nerf|Neutral aerial has more landing lag (12 frames → 14).}}
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| **{{nerf|The nearest hitbox has been removed.}}
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| *[[Forward aerial]]:
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| **{{buff|Forward aerial has less startup lag with a longer duration (frames 18-21 → 12-16).}}
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| ***{{buff|Additionally, the move's hitboxes now start directly above Ike, giving it more vertical range.}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, its total duration was not fully compensated (FAF 60 → 56), giving it more ending lag.}}
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| **{{buff|Forward aerial auto-cancels earlier (frame 45 → 38), allowing it to do so in a short hop.}}
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| **{{buff|Forward aerial has more base knockback (20 → 30), improving its KO potential.}}
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| **{{buff|Forward aerial has larger hitboxes (4.5u/4.5u/4u/4u → 5u/5u/5u) which have more favorable positions along the sword (y offset: 10/7/4/0 → 12/7.5/3).}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, the nearest hitbox has been removed, giving the move less range inside of Ike.}}
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| **{{change|Forward aerial only makes a medium slam sound effect when it connects instead of a strong slam.}}
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| **{{change|Forward aerial has a modified animation: the sword swing is smoother and carries more momentum at the end, instead of the slash abruptly stopping near Ike's feet.}}
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| ***{{nerf|The new animation means Ike does not swing his sword as far. This gives the move less horizontal and downwards range despite its improved hitboxes.}}
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| ***{{buff|However, this new animation is shorter (59 frames → 55), decreasing the amount of time Ike cannot grab ledges after performing the move.}}
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| *[[Up aerial]]:
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| **{{buff|Up aerial has less startup lag (frame 15 → 13).}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, its total duration was unchanged, giving it more ending lag.}}
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| **{{buff|Up aerial auto-cancels earlier (frame 53 → 51).}}
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| **{{nerf|Up aerial deals less damage (14% → 11%), without full compensation on its knockback (40 (base), 100 (scaling) → 55/94), hindering its KO potential.}}
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| *[[Down aerial]]:
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| **{{buff|Down aerial has larger hitboxes (5.2u/5.2u/5.2u → 6.0u/5.5u/6.3u).}}
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| **{{change|Down aerial's hitboxes have been moved slightly to the right (z offset: 0 → 1).}}
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| **{{change|The upper hitbox now launches opponents horizontally (270° → 50°), no longer being a meteor smash. This hinders its edgeguarding potential but improves its KO potential on stage.}}
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| **{{nerf|Down aerial no longer has a late hit, greatly reducing its duration (frames 16-17 (clean)/18-30 (late) → 16-17).}}
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| **{{nerf|Down aerial deals less damage (16% → 15%) and knockback (40 (base), 100 (scaling) → (30/20)/(100/90)) hindering its KO potential, especially the lower hitboxes.}}
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| **{{nerf|The highest and lowest hitboxes have been moved closer to Ike (y offset: 3/-7 → 2/-6). This gives the move slightly less range above Ike although it does have marginally more range below him due to the lower hitbox's larger size.}}
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| **{{buff|The removal of [[Meteor smash#Meteor canceling|meteor canceling]] improves down aerial's reliability.}}
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| ===Throws/other attacks=== | | ===Throws/other attacks=== |
| *[[Grab]]s:
| | *{{nerf|Ike's grabs have increased cooldown (30 frames → 32 (standing), 40 frames → 41 (dash), 36 frames → 39 (pivot)).}} |
| **{{nerf|All grabs have more ending lag (FAF 30 (standing)/40 (dash)/36 (pivot) → 33/41/39).}}
| | *{{buff|Dash grab comes out 2 frames faster.}} |
| **{{buff|Dash grab has less startup lag (frame 12 → 10).}}
| | *{{nerf|Pivot grab comes out 2 frames slower.}} |
| **{{nerf|Pivot grab has more startup lag (frame 9 → 11).}}
| | *{{buff|All throws deal 1% more damage (6% → 7%).}} |
| **{{nerf|All grabs have smaller grabboxes (4.3u/3.5u → 3.1u (standing/pivot)/2.5u (dash)).}}
| | *{{change|Forward throw has increased knockback.}} |
| **{{buff|All grabs extend further inside of Ike (z offset: 5 (standing/dash)/-5 (pivot) → 4/-4).}}
| | *{{nerf|Back throw has increased knockback, which no longer allows Ike to follow up with a dash attack.}} |
| **{{nerf|Standing grab does not extend as far away from Ike (z offset: 10 → 9.4) which along with its smaller grabbox, reduces its range.}}
| | *{{buff|Up throw has reduced cooldown, making it an effective combo starter.}} |
| **{{buff|Dash and Pivot grab extend further away from Ike (z offset: 10 (dash)/-14 (pivot) → z stretch: 11.2/-15.4), giving the latter slightly more horizontal range despite its smaller grabbox.}}
| | *{{buff|The removal of hitstun cancelling increases down throw and up throw's follow-up capabilities from zero to medium percents.}} |
| ***{{nerf|However, this does not fully compensate for dash grab's smaller grabbox, giving it less range overall.}}
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| *{{buff|All throws deal more damage on their hitboxes (2% (hit)/6% (total) → 3%/7%) and their knockback was not compensated.}} | |
| **{{nerf|However, this also gives these hitboxes a additional frame of hitlag, making the throws slower to execute and easier to DI.}}
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| *[[Forward throw]]:
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| **{{buff|Forward throw deals more knockback (50 (base), 50 (scaling) → 55/75), improving its ability to set up edgeguards and tech chases at lower percents.}}
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| **{{nerf|Forward throw has more ending lag (FAF 24 → 34). When combined with its higher knockback, this hinders its followup potential.}}
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| *[[Back throw]]:
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| **{{buff|Back throw deals more knockback (50 (base), 50 (scaling) → 55/75), improving its ability to set up edgeguards and tech chases at lower percents.}}
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| **{{buff|The hitbox has a longer duration (frame 20 → 20-21).}}
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| **{{nerf|Ike releases opponents from back throw later (frame 21 → 22) and it has more ending lag (FAF 33 → 38). When combined with its higher knockback, this hinders its followup potential.}}
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| *[[Up throw]]:
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| **{{buff|Ike releases opponents from up throw later (frame 27 → 28) and it has less ending lag (FAF 55 → 43) When combined with the changes to hitstun canceling and DI, these changes significantly improve its combo potential.}}
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| **{{buff|The hitbox has a longer duration (frame 26 → 26-27).}}
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| **{{nerf|Up throw launches opponents at a slightly lower angle (90° → 87°).}}
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| *[[Down throw]]:
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| **{{buff|The changes to hitstun canceling and DI significantly improve down throw's combo potential, especially at lower percents.}}
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| **{{change|The hitbox has been moved closer to Ike (x offset: -7 → -5).}}
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| ===Special moves=== | | ===Special moves=== |
| *[[Eruption]]: | | *{{buff|An uncharged [[Eruption]] deals 1% more damage (9% → 10%). Ike is also able to release a fully charged Eruption without taking any recoil damage and Eruption reaches the fully charged stage faster.}} |
| **{{buff|Eruption reaches its charged stages faster. Ike is also now able to use fully charged Eruption without receiving [[recoil damage]]. These changes improve its reliability.}}
| | *{{nerf|The first eight stages of Eruption deal much less damage and a fully charged one deals 2% less damage (37% → 35%) at the bottom. Eruption deals significantly less knockback overall, resulting in it no longer scoring [[one-hit KO]]s and now KOing around 50%-100%. An uncharged Eruption has also lost its [[super armor]] frames.}} |
| **{{nerf|Uncharged Eruption has lost its super [[armor]], hindering its safety. It also has decreased base knockback (60 → 40) hindering its KO potential despite its higher damage.}}
| | *{{buff|[[Quick Draw]] has less start-up and landing lag, increased knockback (50 base/88 growth → 70/88), covers more distance and no longer leaves Ike in a [[helpless]] state for a short amount of time when it hits an opponent.}} |
| **{{nerf|Eruption's second through eighth charged stages deal less damage and knockback, removing its ability to [[one-hit KO]].}}
| | *{{nerf|Quick Draw deals 3% less damage (9%/16% → 6%/13%) and its ending lag without hitting anyone is significantly increased, no longer allowing Ike to follow up with an attack immediately after dashing.}} |
| **{{nerf|Fully charged Eruption's base deals 2% less damage (37% → 35%). Fully charged Eruption's base, mid and top also have decreased knockback (30 (base), 80 (scaling) → 20/70), slightly hindering their KO potentials.}}
| | *{{buff|[[Counter]] comes out faster.}} |
| **{{buff|Eruption has updated visual effects. Ragnell's blade now shines briefly when it reaches its non-recoil fully charged stage.}}
| | *{{nerf|[[Aether]] deals 5% less damage (25% → 20%) and has less super armor frames (frames 18-38 → 18-21). It can now only meteor smash at the start of the descent and can no longer grab edges from behind.}} |
| **{{change|Eruption has updated sound effects. Ike now uses his fully charged Eruption voice clip from ''Brawl'' during a partially charged Eruption, and stays silent during a fully charged Eruption.}}
| | *{{change|Aether no longer sends Ike forwards without player input. In ''Brawl'', it would send him a short distance forwards.}} |
| **{{buff|The 19% damage increase to shields and the increase to shieldstun significantly improve fully charged Eruption's shield pressuring potential.}}
| | *{{change|Counter has new sound effects.}} |
| *[[Quick Draw]]:
| | *{{nerf|[[Great Aether]] deals 18% less damage (78% → 60%).}} |
| **{{buff|Quick Draw has a shorter startup animation (17 frames → 15).}}
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| **{{buff|Charging Quick Draw increases Ike's speed more, especially in the air (0.06 (grounded)/0.04 (aerial) → 0.07 (both)), increasing its distance when charged.}}
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| **{{change|Ike retains more momentum when Quick Draw ends on the ground (0.25x → 0.38x).}}
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| **{{nerf|Ike retains less momentum when Quick Draw ends in the air (0.5x → 0.42x).}}
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| **{{nerf|The dash has more ending lag (14 frames → 27).}}
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| **{{buff|The attack has less ending lag (FAF 59 → 45).}}
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| ***{{buff|When used in the air, this notably allows Ike to now cancel the move before he becomes [[helpless]], improving its recovery potential.}}
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| **{{buff|Ike decelerates more when landing the attack (0.5 (grounded)/0.3 (aerial) → 0.8/0.4), making it safer.}}
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| **{{change|The attack's hitbox is now static, rather than being attached to Ike's sword. This gives it more consistent horizontal range but removes its ability to hit opponents far into the Z-axis.}}
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| **{{nerf|The attack deals less damage (9% (uncharged)/16% (fully charged) → 6%/13%), with only an increase to its base knockback (50 → 70), hindering its KO potential.}}
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| **{{nerf|The attack now has one smaller extended hitbox (5u/5u/5u/5u → 3.5u) which does not extend as far as the previous hitboxes, reducing its range.}}
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| ***{{nerf|This also means that the attack now has a consistent launch angle, keeping the lowest launch angle from the previous furthest hitbox (60°/65°/70°/75° → 60°). This hinders its KO potential when landed at close range.}}
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| **{{nerf|Ike cannot grab ledges out of the attack as soon (frame 8 → 13).}}
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| *[[Aether]]:
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| **{{nerf|Aether's loop hits deal 1% less damage (2% → 1%), which decreases its overall damage output by 7% (27% → 20%). However, its last hit's knockback was compensated (50 (base), 60 (scaling) → 70/80). Due to its descending hitbox's angle being altered (80°/270°/270° → 70°/270°/60°), Aether can now only meteor smash during its beginning frames.}}
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| **{{buff|Aether's loop hits' angles have been altered (85°/60°/270° → [[Autolink angle|366°]]). This makes them connect together better.}}
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| **{{nerf|Aether has less super armor frames (frames 18-38 → 18-21) and no longer allows Ike to grab edges from behind, hindering its safety and recovery potential.}}
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| **{{buff|The weakening of [[Smash directional influence|SDI]] makes Aether significantly more difficult to escape from.}}
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| **{{nerf|Aether is no longer [[unblockable]].}}
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| **{{change|Aether no longer moves Ike forward without directional input.}}
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| **{{bugfix|The double Ragnell glitch has been removed.}}
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| *[[Counter]]:
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| **{{change|Counter has updated sound effects. Additionally, the activation and triggering sound effects when using the move are now in sync with the animation.}}
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| **{{buff|Counter has less startup lag with a longer duration (frames 11-33 → 9-35).}}
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| **{{buff|Counter has more [[invincibility]] (frames 11-16 → 9-16).}}
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| **{{buff|Both the counter and the attack have slightly less ending lag (FAF 60 (counter)/37 (attack) → 59/36).}}
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| **{{buff|The attack deals more knockback (50 (base), 62 (scaling) → 48/100), significantly improving its KO potential.}}
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| **{{buff|The attack uses one larger extended hitbox (6u/6u/6u/7u → 9u).}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, this hitbox does not extend as far as the previous hitboxes, giving less horizontal range.}}
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| **{{change|The attack's hitbox is now static, rather than being attached to Ike's sword. This gives it more consistent horizontal range but removes its ability to hit opponents far into the Z-axis, as well as hindering its vertical range.}}
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| **{{nerf|The attack has more startup lag with a shorter duration (frames 4-7 → 5-6).}}
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| **{{nerf|The attack has less invincibility (frames 1-6 → 1-5).}}
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| **{{nerf|The attack is now capped at 50% damage.}}
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| *[[Great Aether]]:
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| **{{change|Great Aether has updated sound effects.}}
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| **{{nerf|Most of Great Aether's multi hits (3% → 2%), the falling hit (5% → 4%) and the final hit (12% → 10%) all deal less damage, significantly reducing the move's maximum damage output (78% → 60%).}}
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| **{{nerf|The nearest trap hitbox is smaller (17u → 15u) and the closest and furthest sword trap hitboxes have been removed, reducing Great Aether's range during its startup.}}
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| **{{buff|The multi hits now use one larger extended hitbox (8u/8u/8u → 10u) with much more horizontal range.}}
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| ***{{nerf|However, they are now static, giving them less vertical range.}}
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| **{{buff|The multi hits now have set knockback (50 (base), 0 (set), 100 (scaling) → 35/100) making them connect more reliably against bystanders.}}
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| **{{buff|The falling hit has gained a new hitbox further away from Ike, giving it more range.}}
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| **{{buff|The final hit has higher base knockback (60 → 100), improving its KO potential, even when considering the rest of the move's lower damage output.}}
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| **{{buff|The final hit's hitboxes are positioned further away from Ike (z offset: 13/28/40 → 18/36/50), improving its range.}}
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| **{{nerf|The final hit's furthest hitbox is smaller (20u → 18u).}}
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| ==Update history== | | ==Update history== |
| Ike has been buffed significantly via game updates. Update [[1.0.4]] made neutral attack and forward tilt safer; re-purposed down tilt into a useful combo starter; decreased forward aerial's start-up and ending lag, but also decreased the move’s hitbox duration, and slightly improved back aerial's KO potential. Update [[1.0.6]] noticeably increased [[Counter]]'s knockback growth to the point that it is much more rewarding when successful. | | Ike has been considerably buffed via game updates. The most notable game update is 1.0.8, which gave some of his ground attacks and aerial attacks reduced lag, and in some cases, more power. This has lead to many players such as [[ZeRo]] to say he is either the best mid-tier character or the worst high-tier character; together with {{SSB4|Roy}}, Ike has some of the best tournament results out of the sword-wielding characters in ''Smash''. The increased [[shieldstun]] in update [[1.1.1]] also helps Ike's sluggish attacks by making them safer on shield, though this comes at the slight price of his [[out of shield]] options becoming slightly more situational. |
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| Ike's most notable buffs were brought about by update [[1.0.8]]. It made neutral attack and forward aerial more reliable; improved dash attack to the point of making it safer and granting it KO potential; and decreased the lag of several attacks. The changes to shield mechanics brought about updates [[1.1.0]] and [[1.1.1]] both help and hinder Ike: they make his most powerful attacks safer on shield, yet they also slightly hinder his [[out of shield]] options because of his poor [[traction]]. | |
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| Lastly, update [[1.1.4]] made sourspotted forward smash safer; noticeably improved neutral aerial's combo potential; improved forward aerial's KO and spacing potential; and increased [[Eruption]]'s duration.
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| '''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} [[1.0.4]]'''
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| '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.0.6]]'''
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| *{{bugfix|Fixed a glitch where Aether Drive behaved erratically when used in slow motion.}}
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| *{{buff|[[Counter]]'s knockback scaling increased (74 → 100), significantly improving its KO potential.}}
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| '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.0.8]]'''
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| {{UpdateList/1.0.8|char=Ike}}
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| '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.0]]''' | | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} 1.0.4''' |
| *{{buff|Up aerial deals more knockback (40 (base)/100 (scaling) → 55/94).}} | | *{{buff|Neutral attack hit 3 hits one frame earlier|frame 9|8. This makes all three hits for his neutral attack connect more reliably.}} |
| *{{change|Down throw's collateral hitbox has been moved forwards (x offset: -7 → -5).}} | | *{{buff|Forward tilt's ending lag decreased.}} |
| | *{{buff|Down tilt deals 1% more damage|7%|8%.}} |
| | *{{buff|Down tilt's ending lag slightly decreased.}} |
| | *{{buff|Down tilt now knocks the opponent vertically instead of horizontally, allowing for additional follow-ups.}} |
| | *{{nerf|Down tilt's range slightly decreased.}} |
| | *{{buff|Down smash's horizontal knockback increased.}} |
| | *{{buff|Forward aerial's animation is much faster overall.}} |
| | *{{buff|Forward aerial's hitboxes sizes increased by about 10%.}} |
| | *{{buff|Down aerial's hitbox size increased.}} |
| | *{{buff|Back aerial deals 1% more damage|13%|14%.}} |
| | *{{change|Some of [[Great Aether]]'s hitboxes are now 24% further away from Ike.}} |
| | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} 1.0.6''' |
| | *{{bugfix|Aether Drive now behaves normally when in slow motion.}} |
| | *{{buff|[[Counter]] is stronger.}} |
| | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} 1.0.8''' |
| | *{{buff|Neutral attack improved. It now transitions faster and the third hit now hits above Ike, matching its animation.}} |
| | *{{buff|Forward tilt's start-up decreased|15 frames|12-13.}} |
| | *{{change|Forward tilt has now only one hitbox instead of three: 14% → 12.5% (sweetspot), 12% → 12.5% (sourspot).}} |
| | *{{buff|Up tilt's hitbox lasts longer and its vertical reach increased.}} |
| | *{{buff|Dash attack deals more damage: 10% → 14% (sweetspot), 7% → 11% (sourspot) and 5% → 9%. Its knockback has been increased and it sends opponents at a more horizontal angle, making it another reliable KOing option. It also has less start-up (18 frames → 14-15) and the sweetspot has more reach.}} |
| | *{{buff|Neutral aerial's landing lag decreased|18 frames|15.}} |
| | *{{buff|Up aerial's landing lag decreased|19 frames|16.}} |
| | *{{buff|Forward aerial's hitbox placements have been improved. It hits better above and below Ike and has 2 less frames of start-up.}} |
| | *{{buff|Forward aerial's landing lag decreased|20 frames|19.}} |
| | *{{buff|Down aerial's landing lag decreased|27 frames|24.}} |
| | *{{buff|All variations of [[Quick Draw]] have less start-up|19 frames|16.}} |
| | *{{change|The suction properties of [[Aether]] were tweaked in some way.}} |
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| '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.1]]''' | | ''' {{GameIcon|ssb4}} 1.1.0''' |
| *{{buff|Tempest improved. Uncharged Tempest deals 4% more damage|1%|5%; its hitbox durations increased by 2 frames; and it ends 4 frames faster. Additionally, charged and fully charged Tempest's initial windbox durations increased by 2 frames, and are adjusted slightly backward. Lastly, its later frames' durations increased by 3 frames, and it ends 4 and 2 frames faster, respectively.}} | | *{{nerf|Up aerial's knockback growth decreased|100|94.}} |
| *{{buff|Furious Eruption improved. Its sweetspot and fully charged sourspot's hitbox sizes increased (7u (uncharged sweetspot)/8u (charged sweetspot)/10u (fully charged sweetspot)/15u (fully charged sourspot) → 8.5u/10u/12.5u/16u) and have been adjusted upward. Its other hitboxes' durations increased (12 frames (uncharged second)/16 frames (charged second)/16 frames (fully charged second) → 15/19/19).}} | | *{{buff|Up aerial's base knockback increased|40|55.}} |
| *{{nerf|Furious Eruption's first hit's duration decreased (12 frames (uncharged)/16 frames (fully charged) → 10/14).}}
| | *{{change|Down throw's collateral hitbox moved forward|-7.0u|-5.0u.}} |
| *{{change|Smash Counter's knockback altered (48 (base)/100 (scaling) → 90/70).}} | |
| *{{change|Third victory pose's animation has slightly changed. Ragnell's blade now glows briefly at the end of the animation.}}
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| '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.4]]''' | | '''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} 1.1.1''' |
| {{UpdateList|ver=1.1.4|char=Ike}} | | *{{nerf|Smash Counter's knockback growth decreased|100|70.}} |
| | *{{buff|Smash Counter's base knockback increased|48|90.}} |
| | *{{buff|Uncharged Tempest deals 4% more damage|1%|5%. Its hitboxes also last 2 more frames and the move ends 4 frames faster.}} |
| | *{{buff|Charged and fully charged Tempest's initial windboxes last 2 frames longer and are adjusted slightly backward; later ones last 3 frames longer and the move ends 4 and 2 frames sooner, respectively.}} |
| | *{{buff|Furious Eruption's sweetspot size increased: 7.0u → 8.5u (uncharged), 8.0u → 10.0u (charged), 10u → 12.5u (fully charged). It has also been adjusted upward. Its other hitboxes' durations have been adjusted: 12 frames → 10 (uncharged first), 12 frames → 15 (uncharged second), 16 frames → 14 (charged first), 16 frames → 19 (charged second), 16 frames → 19 (fully charged second).}} |
| | *{{nerf|Fully charged Furious Eruption's first hitbox frame duration decreased|16 frames|14.}} |
| | *{{buff|Fully charged Furious Eruption's sourspot size increased|15u|16u. It has also been adjusted upward.}} |
| | *{{change|Ike's third victory animation has been slightly changed.}} |
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| ==Moveset== | | ==Moveset== |
| ''For a gallery of Ike's hitboxes, see [[/Hitboxes|here]].''
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| {{MovesetTable | | {{MovesetTable |
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| |neutral2dmg=3% | | |neutral2dmg=3% |
| |neutral3dmg=5% | | |neutral3dmg=5% |
| |neutraldesc=A jab, followed by a front kick, followed by a kneeling downward slash. Due to it hitting on frame 4, it has the lowest amount of start-up lag out of Ike's entire moveset. When coupled with its respectable overall damage output, moderate knockback and its last hit's impressive range, it is very useful for damage racking and spacing. Unlike in ''Brawl'', it is significantly less effective at [[jab cancel]]ing into itself. Despite this, it's first hit can still be jab canceled quite reliably into down tilt because of the latter's minimal start-up lag. | | |neutraldesc=A jab followed by forward kick followed by an overhead slash. It has moderate knockback, but is unable to KO at reasonable percents. Ike's fastest attack, as it starts at frame 4, with the forward kick and overhead slash providing a surprising amount of range. A decent out of shield option. |
| |ftiltname= | | |ftiltname= |
| |ftiltdmg=12.5% | | |ftiltdmg=12.5% |
| |ftiltdesc=A lunging outward slash. It can be angled and has a respectable damage output, high knockback growth, and impressive range for a tilt attack. It KOs middleweights at 121%/110% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of {{SSB4|Final Destination}}. However, its moderate start-up and ending lag make it punishable. | | |ftiltdesc=Ike leans forward and swings Ragnell horizontally with impressive range, making it a good spacing tool. Moderately slow start-up and cool down but deals good knockback and is a viable KO option. Can be angled. |
| |utiltname= | | |utiltname= |
| |utiltdmg=14% (clean), 10% (late) | | |utiltdmg=14% (clean), 10% (late) |
| |utiltdesc=Hops to thrust Ragnell upward while holding it parallel to the ground. It has an impressive damage output for a tilt attack, as its clean hitbox KOs middleweights at 112%/104% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') from anywhere on Final Destination. It can also hit grounded opponents, while its good vertical range and fairly long duration make it useful for juggling, or as an anti-air attack. However, its moderate start-up and ending lag make it punishable. | | |utiltdesc=Ike holds Ragnell parallel to the ground and quickly performs an upward punch in a bunny hop motion. Although it has moderate cooldown, it has good vertical range, decent speed, numerous active frames and is a very powerful KOing option move for a tilt, as it usually KOs around 100%. |
| |dtiltname= | | |dtiltname= |
| |dtiltdmg=8% | | |dtiltdmg=8% |
| |dtiltdesc=A kneeling inward slash. Due to it hitting on frame 7, it is Ike's fastest tilt attack. It also has average base knockback and knockback growth; fairly average ending lag; good range; and launches at 80°. Altogether, these traits make it a useful combo starter into [[reverse aerial rush]]ed back aerial at low percentages, and neutral and forward aerials at low to medium percentages. However, its average damage output and knockback making it unreliable for combos at high percentages, or KOing at reasonable percentages. | | |dtiltdesc=A slash across the ground. At frame 7, it is Ike's second fastest ground attack with good range and decent cooldown. One of Ike's best combo starters with its 80° trajectory. Moderate knockback scaling hurts its combo ability above medium percents, but will never realistically KO either. Good for [[edge-guarding]] as it can hit opponents on the ledge. |
| |dashname= | | |dashname= |
| |dashdmg=14% (clean tip), 11% (clean blade), 9% (late) | | |dashdmg=14% (clean tip), 11% (clean blade), 9% (late) |
| |dashdesc=A lunging, two-handed upward slash. Its clean tip hitbox is tied with {{SSB4|Link}} and {{SSB4|Ganondorf}}'s clean dash attacks as the most damaging in the game. When coupled with its impressive range and its clean hitboxes' [[Priority#Moves that cannot rebound|anti-rebounding priority]], it is potent at punishing and KOing. Its clean hitbox KOs middleweights at 118%/105% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. It is also a useful follow-up from back throw at low to medium percentages. However, it hits on frame 15 and has 32 frames of ending lag, which make it one of the slowest dash attacks in the game. | | |dashdesc=Ike swings Ragnell upwards after charging forwards. One of the slower dash attacks in the game due to it coming out on frame 15, but it has very impressive range and deals high knockback capable of KOing around 110% when sweetspotted. It can be used to efficiently punish missed techs from a back throw or to cover poor landings, though it has a considerable amount of cooldown. |
| |fsmashname= | | |fsmashname= |
| |fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|19}} (early), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|22}} (clean blade), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|19}} (clean tip) | | |fsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|19}} (early), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|22}} (clean blade), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|17}} (clean tip) |
| |fsmashdesc=A lunging, two-handed downward slash. Thanks to its clean blade hitbox's outstanding damage output, it is the seventh strongest forward smash in the game. As a result, its clean blade hitbox KOs middleweights at 64%/55% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. Its early and clean tip's hitboxes are also very strong, but KO noticeably later because of their slightly lower damage outputs. However, it hits on frame 31 and has 48 frames of ending lag, making it one of the slowest smash attacks as well. As such, it is best suited for punishing. | | |fsmashdesc=Ike slowly heaves Ragnell over his head before striking with a heavy downwards slash. It is the fifth strongest forward smash in ''SSB4'', while it was previously the second strongest in ''Brawl''. By far one of the slowest forward smashes in the game in both start-up and cooldown. While under the [[rage]] mechanic, it can KO nearly as its early as its ''Brawl'' version. It has extremely high base knockback, making it almost guaranteed to score a KO if it lands. Although it works best when telegraphing the opponent, the move itself is easily telegraphed too, making it easy to dodge or punish after blocking it. |
| |usmashname= | | |usmashname= |
| |usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|17}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (late) | | |usmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|17}} (clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|10}} (late) |
| |usmashdesc=An overhead arcing slash. Its clean hitbox's impressive damage output makes it strong enough to KO middleweights at 95%/88% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') from anywhere on Final Destination. Due to Ike swinging Ragnell on a 180° arc, it is also reliable at punishing airborne or rolling opponents. However, it hits on frame 25 and has 39 frames of ending lag, making it is one of the slowest smash attacks in the game too. As such, it is best suited for punishing. | | |usmashdesc=Ike holds Ragnell on his left hand before swinging it 180° over himself. Hits on both sides with very high knockback but slow start-up and cool down (though not as drastic as his forward smash). A reliable KOing option against aerial or rolling opponent, but extremely punishable after being blocked or whiffed. Better at punishing rolls than his down smash because of its much larger range. Has [[Priority#Transcendent_priority|transcendent priority]]. |
| |dsmashname= | | |dsmashname= |
| |dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14}} (hit 1), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|17}} (hit 2), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8}} (hit 2 late) | | |dsmashdmg={{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|14}} (hit 1), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|17}} (hit 2 clean), {{ChargedSmashDmgSSB4|8}} (hit 2 late) |
| |dsmashdesc=A kneeling, two-handed outward slash in front of himself and then behind himself. Due to it hitting on frame 13, it has the lowest amount of start-up lag out Ike's smash attacks. Both of its hitboxes have very high knockback growth, but also have distinct properties: its first hit deals consistent damage, whereas its second hit consists of a clean hitbox and a late hitbox. As a result, its first hit is consistent at KOing, whereas its second hit KOs is capable of KOing earlier and has a slightly longer duration. Its first hit KOs middleweights at 105%/95% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. Conversely, its clean second hit KOs middleweights at 83%/74% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. However, its noticeable start-up lag and 34 frames of ending lag make it punishable, and thus best suited for punishing. In addition, its second hit's late hitbox and short range make it inconsistent at KOing and ineffective at punishing rolls, respectively. | | |dsmashdesc=Ike does downward slash in front of himself and then behind himself. The first hit has powerful horizontal knockback, while the second hit deals more damage and knockback. Decent for hitting rolling opponents, though his up smash is better suited for this. Ike's fastest smash attack in start-up, although somewhat lacking compared to his other smashes in knockback if the front hit connects. The short range on the back swing also makes it hard to hit rolling opponents and suffers from punishable cooldown like his other smashes. A good KOing option near the edge. Has transcendent priority. |
| |nairname= | | |nairname= |
| |nairdmg=10% (clean), 7% (late) | | |nairdmg=9% (clean), 6% (late) |
| |nairdesc=A semi-circular slash in front of himself. It has a long duration and impressive range, which make its clean hitbox a reliable and safe spacing option. Its clean hitbox also has low base knockback; very high knockback growth; low landing lag; and launches at 80°. Altogether, these traits make it a reliable combo starter when [[SHFF]]'d. Its clean hitbox can combo into neutral attack, tilts and a grab at 0%-10%; and into itself, forward, and up aerials at low to medium percentages. In addition to its spacing and combo potential, its clean hitbox can function as a safe, yet capable KOing option near the upper [[blast line]]. Its clean hitbox KOs middleweights at 112%/102% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the upper blast line of Final Destination. However, its moderate start-up lag and high aerial ending lag make it punishable outside of a SHFF. | | |nairdesc=Starting from above and in-front, Ike swings Ragnell in an arcing motion around his body which ends behind him. Large amount of active frames and low landing lag makes this one of Ike's better spacing options despite its lower range. Its wide arc that covers almost 360 degrees, 70 degree knockback trajectory, low base knockback and low landing makes it great for combos into grabs, tilts and aerials depending on percent. Has moderate start-up at 12 frames with very high cool down in the air. |
| |fairname= | | |fairname= |
| |fairdmg=13% | | |fairdmg=12% |
| |fairdesc=A two-handed downward slash. It covers the entirety of Ike's foreside, making it capable of hitting above and below himself. It has moderate start-up and landing lag, although this can be mitigated by auto-canceling with a non-fast falling short hop. By extension, its respectable damage output and very high knockback growth make it both Ike's most viable approach option and a viable KOing option. It KOs middleweights at 112%/101% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. | | |fairdesc=An overhead swing downwards that covers the entirety of Ike's front. Capable of hitting above and below, it has decently fast start-up for its high power. Has moderate landing lag but is capable of auto cancelling in a non fast fall short hop. |
| |bairname= | | |bairname= |
| |bairdmg=14% | | |bairdmg=14% |
| |bairdesc=Quickly turns around to perform an outward slash. Due to it hitting on frame 7, it is Ike's fastest aerial. When coupled with its impressive damage output; very high knockback growth; long range; and ability to auto-cancel with a short hop, it is one of Ike's most viable KOing options. These traits also make it a useful approach option via reverse aerial rush. It KOs middleweights at 103%/93% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. However, it has 45 frames of ending lag, which is the highest amount of ending lag out of his aerials. It also has very minimal vertical range. | | |bairdesc=Ike swings Ragnell horizontally behind him with incredible speed. This is Ike's fastest aerial at frame 7 and performs greatly with [[RAR]] due to its high KO potential. Impressive range but has a narrow hitbox with little active frames and has very long aerial cooldown. Has moderate landing lag at 19 frames, although it can be auto-cancelled from a short hop. |
| |uairname= | | |uairname= |
| |uairdmg=11% | | |uairdmg=11% |
| |uairdesc=A circular overhead slash. It has the longest duration out of his aerials, as well as good horizontal range for an up aerial. When coupled with its decent damage output and high knockback growth, it is a useful juggling option and anti-air attack, as well as a viable KOing option. It KOs middleweights at 97%/84% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the upper blast line of Final Destination. However, it has moderate start-up and ending lag, as well as minimal vertical range. | | |uairdesc=Ike swings Ragnell in a helicopter motion above his head. Lots of active frames with good horizontal coverage, but a narrow vertical hitbox. High KOing potential, especially while under the rage mechanic because of its high base knockback. The hitbox starts behind Ike. |
| |dairname= | | |dairname= |
| |dairdmg=15% | | |dairdmg=15% |
| |dairdesc=A two-handed downward slash between his legs. It is Ike's most damaging aerial and has very high knockback growth, which make it very powerful even against grounded opponents. It KOs middleweights at 108%/99% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while they are on-stage and near the edge of Final Destination. It also has impressive range below him, while Ragnell's tip is a powerful [[meteor smash]] during the initial portion of the swing. However, it hits on frame 16 and has 23 frames of landing lag, which are the highest amounts of respective lag out of his aerials. It also has the shortest duration out of his aerials. | | |dairdesc=Ike performs a downward slash between his legs. Ike's slowest aerial in regards to start-up, due to only having two active frames. It has limited horizontal range, but impressive range below Ike. A very powerful [[meteor smash]] when hit with Ragnell's blade during the initial downward swing. Moderately high cooldown and moderately high landing lag. |
| |grabname= | | |grabname= |
| |grabdesc=Reaches out with his free hand. Ike's overall grab range is below-average; his standing grab, in particular, is tied with {{SSB4|Ryu}}'s for the eighth shortest ranged in the game. | | |grabdesc=An average grab. |
| |pummelname= | | |pummelname= |
| |pummeldmg=3% | | |pummeldmg=3% |
| |pummeldesc=A headbutt. Moderately slow, but one of the most damaging pummels in the game. | | |pummeldesc=Headbutts opponent. Despite its somewhat slow speed, it is one of the best pummels in the game due to its damage output. |
| |fthrowname= | | |fthrowname= |
| |fthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) | | |fthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) |
| |fthrowdesc=A front kick. It is a [[semi-spike]], which makes it a reliable edge-guard set-up at high percentages. However, its high ending lag makes it very unreliable for [[tech-chasing]]. | | |fthrowdesc=Ike front kicks his opponent forward. It provides virtually no follow-ups unless a foe is thrown off-stage. |
| |bthrowname= | | |bthrowname= |
| |bthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) | | |bthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) |
| |bthrowdesc=A spinning back kick. It is a semi-spike like forward throw, which also makes it a reliable edge-guard set-up at high percentages. Due to having much less ending lag compared to forward throw, it is reliable for tech-chasing, most notably into dash attack at low to medium percentages. | | |bthrowdesc=Shoves the target behind him and reverse roundhouse kicks. At medium percents, if an opponent does not tech, the throw can combo into a dash attack. Launches the opponent at a semi-spike angle, making it reliable for an edge-guard at high percents. |
| |uthrowname= | | |uthrowname= |
| |uthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) | | |uthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) |
| |uthrowdesc=Plunges Ragnell into the ground and then [[Wikipedia:Professional wrestling attacks#Double axe handle|double axe handles]] the opponent upward. It has average base knockback and knockback growth, and launches at 87°. These traits make it a reliable combo starter into [[Aether]] at low percentages; into forward, reverse aerial rushed back, and up aerials at low to medium percentages; and into neutral aerial at low to high percentages. However, its Aether combo is virtually unusable against lightweights and/or [[floaty]] characters. | | |uthrowdesc=Ike shoves Ragnell into the ground and performs an upward double axe handle to launch the opponent into the air. Has moderate base knockback with low scaling at a 87° trajectory. Has good combo potential and can set up into aerials, most notably forward aerial until high percents due to its large vertical hitbox and KOing potential. |
| |dthrowname= | | |dthrowname= |
| |dthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) | | |dthrowdmg=3% (hit 1), 4% (throw) |
| |dthrowdesc=A one-handed [[Wikipedia:Professional wrestling throws#Body slam|body slam]] followed by a [[Wikipedia:Professional wrestling attacks#Knee drop|knee drop]]. It has average base knockback, very high knockback growth, and launches at 80°. These traits make it a reliable combo starter into neutral, forward, reverse aerial rushed back, and up aerials at low to medium percentages. It can also combo into Aether, albeit only at 0%-15%. Despite having the highest knockback growth out of his throws, it is virtually unusable for KOing because of its throw hitbox's low damage output. In addition, its Aether combo is virtually unusable against lightweights and/or floaty characters. | | |dthrowdesc=Ike throws the target to the ground and performs a double foot stomp onto them. Has moderate base knockback at an 80° trajectory with very high scaling. Possesses decent combo potential at low percents and while its high scaling makes it Ike's strongest throw, it will not realistically start to KO up until 160% while under the rage mechanic. |
| |floorfname= | | |floorfname= |
| |floorfdmg=7% | | |floorfdmg=7% |
| |floorfdesc=Swings Ragnell around himself. | | |floorfdesc=Ike does a rising, spinning slash. |
| |floorbname= | | |floorbname= |
| |floorbdmg=7% | | |floorbdmg=7% |
| |floorbdesc=Swings Ragnell around himself. | | |floorbdesc=Ike swings Ragnell around his body. |
| |floortname= | | |floortname= |
| |floortdmg=5% | | |floortdmg=5% |
| |floortdesc=Swings Ragnell around himself. | | |floortdesc=Ike does circular swing while getting up. |
| |edgename= | | |edgename= |
| |edgedmg=8% | | |edgedmg=8% |
| |edgedesc=Performs an outward slash while climbing up. | | |edgedesc= |
| |nsdefname=Eruption | | |nsdefname=Eruption |
| |nsdefdmg=10% (uncharged), 35% (fully charged base), 28% (fully charged mid), 26% (fully charged top) | | |nsdefdmg=10% (uncharged), 35%/28%/26% (fully charged bottom/middle/top) |
| |nsdefdesc=Lifts Ragnell in front of himself in a two-handed reverse grip before plunging it into the ground to generate an explosion. It has [[transcendent priority]] and is [[charge]]able, during which it becomes engulfed in [[flame]]s that become more prominent the longer it is charged. When uncharged, it has fairly long range below Ike until fully charged, and the tip of Ragnell's blade can meteor smash aerial opponents. However, it also has impressive vertical range, which increases as it charges, and thus makes it useful for edge-guarding. When fully charged, it grants super [[armor]] on frames 234-238, but deals 10% [[recoil damage]]. When uncharged, it KOs middleweights at 152%/143% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') from anywhere on Final Destination. Conversely, its fully charged base KOs middleweights at 46%/38% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. | | |nsdefdesc=Ike charges Ragnell before thrusting it in the ground, creating a pillar of blue fire. If fully charged, Ike receives 10% recoil damage. The uncharged tip of the blade can meteor smash. High vertical range which increases as the move charges. Uncharged has a longer downward reach untill fully charged. At fully charged the move gives super armor frames upon release. Good for edge-guarding. Has trascendent priority. When fully charged, it can KO as low as 45%. |
| |nsc1name=Tempest | | |nsc1name=Tempest |
| |nsc1dmg=5% (uncharged), 14% (fully charged) | | |nsc1dmg=5% (uncharged), 8% (ground fully charged), 14% (air fully charged) |
| |nsc1desc=Generates a vortex of wind, instead of an explosion. The vortex can [[gimp]] recoveries, thanks to it [[push]]ing opponents away. It also stalls his descent, similarly to [[Cape]]. It also charges faster and does not deal recoil damage, but lacks KO potential because of its much lower damage output. | | |nsc1desc=Instead of fire, Ike generates a vortex of air around him, generating a windbox that pushes enemies away. Stalls if used in the air which can help recover if used correctly. Excellent for edge-guarding. Tempest also charges faster than the other variations of Eruption. |
| |nsc2name=Furious Eruption | | |nsc2name=Furious Eruption |
| |nsc2dmg=7% (uncharged), 32% (fully charged base), 25% (fully charged top) | | |nsc2dmg=7% (uncharged), 27%/20% (ground fully charged bottom/top), 32%/25% (air fully charged bottom/top) |
| |nsc2desc=The explosion's vertical range is larger, especially when charged. It also has a slightly longer duration and, like Eruption, has transcendent priority. When fully charged, it KOs middleweights at 29% from anywhere on Final Destination in {{for3ds}}. However, it lacks KO potential when uncharged. In addition, it deals 10% recoil damage when charged halfway, and 15% recoil damage when fully charged. | | |nsc2desc=The vertical hitbox of the pillar of fire is larger, especially when charged, but Ike takes 10% recoil damage when charged halfway, and 15% recoil damage when it's fully charged. The move stays out a few frames longer than standard Eruption. Fully charged, the move kills earlier than standard Eruption and knocks them up, vertically with great power. Has transcendent priority. When fully charged, it can KO as low as 30%. |
| |ssdefname=Quick Draw | | |ssdefname=Quick Draw |
| |ssdefdmg=6% (uncharged), 13% (fully charged) | | |ssdefdmg=6% uncharged, 13% charged |
| |ssdefdesc=Kneels on one knee and readies himself to charge forward. If Ike make contact with an opponent, he will perform a lunging, outward slash. It takes ≈88 frames (≈1.46 seconds) to [[charge]], and its charge can be held indefinitely. When fully charged, the slash is strong enough to KO middleweights at 123%/114% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of Final Destination. However, failing to hit an opponent results in high ending lag and, if used in midair, Ike being rendered [[helpless]]. Has high momentum when charged in mid-air. | | |ssdefdesc=Ike charges himself and then rushes forward upon releasing the charge. If Ike comes into contact with another fighter, he slashes in a similar way to that of the forward tilt. The charge can be held indefinitely. If Ike does not hit, the move has long ending lag. Failing to hit while in midair causes Ike to become [[helpless]]. |
| |ssc1name=Close Combat | | |ssc1name=Close Combat |
| |ssc1dmg=4% (uncharged, fully charged near), 7% (fully charged clean far), 3% (fully charged late far) | | |ssc1dmg= 4% uncharged and fully charged, 7% fully charged (far) |
| |ssc1desc=A shoulder tackle. It charges slightly faster, pierces opponents, and its dash has transcendent priority, which make it better for recovery. However, it lacks KO potential because of its lower damage output. It also renders Ike helpless while in the air, even if he hits an opponent. | | |ssc1desc=Ike performs a shoulder tackle that dashes through opponents rather than slashing the first object he comes in contact with. Deals less damage and opponents are launched upwards. During the dash, Ike is given transcendent priority. Better for recovery than the default version. |
| |ssc2name=Unyielding Blade | | |ssc2name=Unyielding Blade |
| |ssc2dmg=7% (uncharged), 19% (fully charged) | | |ssc2dmg= 7% uncharged, 19% fully charged |
| |ssc2desc=Deals more damage, to the point that when fully charged, it KOs middleweights at 93% while near the edge of Final Destination in the ''3DS'' version. It also grants super armor for the duration of its charge and lunge. However, it is much slower and has less range, which make it virtually unusable for recovery. | | |ssc2desc=Deals more damage and Ike has super armor for the duration of the charge and the lunge, but both its range and the speed are decreased. |
| |usdefname=Aether | | |usdefname=Aether |
| |usdefdmg=6% (hit 1 clean), 4% (hit 1 late), 2% (hit 2), 1% (hits 3-5), 3% (descent), 6% (landing) | | |usdefdmg=6% (hit 1 clean), 4% (hit 1 late), 1% (hit 2), 3% (descent), 6% (landing) |
| |usdefdesc=Performs the [[fireemblemwiki:Sol (skill)|Sol]] portion of {{s|fireemblemwiki|Aether}}. It covers a respectable amount of vertical distance, but covers almost no horizontal distance. It grants super armor on frames 18-21, while all but its first hitbox have transcendent priority, a trait that also applies to its custom variations. Although it is primarily used for recovering, it can also function as a useful damage racking option when all of its hitboxes connect. The start of its descending hitbox is also able to [[spike]] aerial opponents. | | |usdefdesc=Ike throws Ragnell upward, launching nearby fighters in the air. Ragnell spins in place, dealing several hits and trapping foes. Then Ike jumps up and grabs Ragnell, followed by a downward slash. Ike has [[super armor]] at the start of the move. It offers poor horizontal recovery, but respectable vertical distance and can spike foes if used correctly. All hitboxes except the initial one have trascendent priority, along with its custom specials. |
| |usc1name=Aether Drive | | |usc1name=Aether Drive |
| |usc1dmg=9% (hit 1 clean), 6% (hit 1 late), 1% (hit 2-5), 5% (descent), 9% (landing) | | |usc1dmg=9% (hit 1 clean), 6% (hit 1 late), 1% (hit 2), 5% (descent), 9% (landing) |
| |usc1desc=Ragnell is thrown diagonally and much farther outward. This allows it to cover much more horizontal distance, but less vertical distance. It also deals more damage. | | |usc1desc=Ike can throw Ragnell much farther out, but not as high. It offers much greater horizontal recovery at the cost of some vertical recovery. |
| |usc2name=Aether Wave | | |usc2name=Aether Wave |
| |usc2dmg=6% (hit 1 clean), 4% (hit 1 late), 1% (hit 2), 3% (descent), 10% (landing), 8% (energy wave near), 6% (energy wave mid), 4% (energy wave far) | | |usc2dmg=6% (hit 1 clean), 4% (hit 1 late), 1% (hit 2), 3% (descent), 10%/8%/6%/4% (landing) |
| |usc2desc=Ragnell is thrown much faster and [[fireemblemwiki:Range|emits an energy wave]] upon landing. However, it deals less damage, which is further compounded by its overall faster animation having almost no trapping potential. Despite the in-game description claiming the move is weaker, the energy wave allows it deal at least the same damage most of the time or is able to deal even more damage than the default Aether. It is based on Ragnell's ability in ''Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance'' and ''Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn'' to attack at a longer range by firing an energy wave. | | |usc2desc=Ike releases a shockwave when he slams Ragnell into the ground, but the entire attack deals less damage overall. The entire attack animation is also significantly sped up, which results in little trapping potential. |
| |dsdefname=Counter | | |dsdefname=Counter |
| |dsdefdmg=1.2× (minimum 10%) | | |dsdefdmg=1.2x damage of countered attacks, 10% minimum |
| |dsdefdesc=[[fireemblemwiki:Counter|Parries]] and then [[counterattack]]s against any incoming attacks with a reverse gripped downward slash. Due to having a duration of 26 frames, it is the second longest-lasting counterattack, being surpassed only by [[Double Team]] and [[Vision]]. It also has the lowest amount of ending lag out of every counterattack. Due to it coming out on frame 9, however, it has the second highest amount of start-up lag out of every counterattack, being surpassed only by [[Toad]] and {{SSB4|Palutena}}'s [[Counter (Palutena)|Counter]]. | | |dsdefdesc=Ike holds up Ragnell in a reverse gripped parry position. If Ike is hit shortly after the move begins, he strikes back. Start-up: Frame 9. Duration: 26 frames. |
| |dsc1name=Paralyzing Counter | | |dsc1name=Paralyzing Counter |
| |dsc1dmg=1% | | |dsc1dmg=1% (base) |
| |dsc1desc=The counterattack [[stun]]s the opponent, similarly to [[Disable]]. Like Disable, the stun's duration is longer the more damaged the opponent is. Due to not being a true counterattack, it deals minuscule damage. It also comes out on frame 11 and has a duration of 13 frames. | | |dsc1desc=Ike's counter stuns the opponent, allowing for a follow-up attack. The stun duration is longer the higher the opponent's damage percent. However, it has a narrower hit window. Start-up: frame 11. Duration: 13 frames. |
| |dsc2name=Smash Counter | | |dsc2name=Smash Counter |
| |dsc2dmg=1.5× (minimum 15%) | | |dsc2dmg=9% (base) Roughly 1.5x damage of countered attacks, 15% minimum |
| |dsc2desc=The counterattack has a larger hitbox and a much higher damage multiplier. However, Ike counterattacks after a delay, instead of instantly. As a result, opponents can easily avoid it, especially if it is used in the air. As a result, it is best used against moves that have considerable ending lag. It also comes out on frame 11 and has a duration of 27 frames. | | |dsc2desc=When the Counter is triggered, Ike will perform a counterattack after a delay rather than instantly, but the attack deals more damage and knockback and produces a larger hitbox. Due to the delay of this move, opponents can easily avoid it, especially if used in the air, so it is best used against moves that have a lot of endlag. Start-up: frame 11. Duration: 27 frames. |
| |fsname=Great Aether | | |fsname=Great Aether |
| |fsdmg=5% (hit 1), 10% (hit 2), 2% (hits 3-15), 5% (hit 16), 4% (hit 17), 10% (hit 18) | | |fsdmg=5% (hit 1), 2% (hits 2-14), 5% (hit 15), 4% (hit 16), 10% (hit 17) |
| |fsdesc=Performs an upward slash while Ragnell's blade is engulfed in flames. If any opponents are hit, they are launched upward and Ike throws Ragnell into the air along with them. He then leaps upward, catches Ragnell while its blade is still aflame, and unleashes a devastating series of slashes alongside a thrust, a wheel kick and a roundhouse kick. Ike then concludes the attack with a descending, two-handed slash that slams the opponent to the ground and creates a massive explosion upon impact. The explosion launches the opponent and any bystanders toward the upper blast line. It is one of the strongest [[Final Smash]]es in the game, as it will KO middleweights at 19% from anywhere on Final Destination in the ''3DS'' version. However, it is possible for its second hit to miss if Ike is slightly far away from the opponent. | | |fsdesc=Ike performs a fiery upward slash with Ragnell. If he catches anyone, Ike throws Ragnell into the air along with the opponent, jumps after them, catches Ragnell, and unleashes a devastating combo of slashes and kicks before driving them down to the ground. The impact creates a massive explosion which launches the victims and any bystanders towards the upper blast line. |
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| ===Stats===
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| {{Attributes
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| |cast = 58
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| |weight = 107
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| |rweight = 8-9
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| |dash = 1.5
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| |rdash = 25-41
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| |run = 1.5
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| |rrun = 38
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| |walk = 0.869
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| |rwalk = 50
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| |trac = 0.044
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| |rtrac = 53-54
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| |airfric = 0.009
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| |rairfric = 33-36
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| |air = 1.08
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| |rair = 21-23
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| |baseaccel = 0.01
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| |rbaseaccel = 10-54
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| |addaccel = 0.04
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| |raddaccel = 46-53
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| |gravity = 0.092
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| |rgravity = 22-25
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| |fall = 1.65
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| |rfall = 17-21
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| |ff = 2.64
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| |rff = 18-22
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| |jumpsquat = 7
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| |rjumpsquat = 52-57
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| |jumpheight = 29.9
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| |rjumpheight = 48
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| |shorthop = 16
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| |rshorthop = 36-37
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| |djump = 31
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| |rdjump = 40-41
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| ===[[Announcer]] call=== | | ===[[List of taunts (SSB4)|Taunts]]=== |
| {{audio|Needs announcer calls from other languages.}}
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| <gallery> | | <gallery> |
| Ike English Announcer SSB4-SSBU.wav|English/Japanese/Chinese
| | IkeUpTauntWiiU.jpg| |
| | IkeSideTauntWiiU.jpg| |
| | IkeDownTauntWiiU.jpg| |
| </gallery> | | </gallery> |
| | *'''Up Taunt''': Charges up Ragnell with wind blowing through his cape, grunting loudly. |
| | *'''Side Taunt''': Holds out Ragnell to his side and says "Prepare yourself!" (覚悟しろ。, Get prepared.) |
| | *'''Down Taunt''': Slams Ragnell into the ground with a "Hmph", before removing it. Wind also blows through his cape. |
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| ===[[On-screen appearance]]=== | | ===[[List of idle poses (SSB4)|Idle Poses]]=== |
| {{appearance
| | *Taps Ragnell on his shoulder. |
| |desc=Warps onto the stage using [[fireemblemwiki:Warp (staff)|warp magic]] and grunts while briefly performing an inward slash.
| | *Rubs the edge of Ragnell. |
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| ===[[Taunt]]s=== | | ===[[List of crowd cheers (SSB4)|Cheer]]=== |
| {{Taunt/SSB4
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| |desc-up=Holds Ragnell with both hands in front of himself while growling loudly as wind blows through his cape.
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| |desc-side=Rears back and then holds Ragnell to his side while saying "Prepare yourself!" In the Japanese version, he says {{ja|覚悟しろ。|Kakugo shiro.}} (''Get prepared.'')
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| |desc-down=Plunges Ragnell into the ground, then folds his arms while saying "Hmph!" as wind blows through his cape, then removes Ragnell from the ground.}}
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| ===[[Idle pose]]s=== | | ===[[On-screen appearance|On-Screen Appearance]]=== |
| {{Idle
| | Warps onto the stage using warp magic with a grunt and slashes Ragnell for a brief moment. |
| |desc-1=Taps Ragnell's blade on his shoulder.
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| |desc-2=Rubs the edge of Ragnell's blade.
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| |image-1=IkeIdlePose1WiiU.jpg
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| |image-2=IkeIdlePose2WiiU.jpg}}
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| ===[[Crowd cheer]]=== | | ===[[Victory theme|Victory Fanfare]]=== |
| {{Crowd | | This victory theme is a small orchestral cover from the title theme of the first ''Fire Emblem'' game, which has since become the main theme of the series. It is shared with {{SSB4|Marth}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}, and {{SSB4|Roy}}. |
| |char=Ike | | <gallery> |
| |game=SSB4 | | FireEmblemTheme.ogg |
| |desc-us=We like Ike! | | </gallery> |
| |desc-jp=Ai-ku!
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| |pitch-us=Group chant
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| |pitch-jp=Male}}
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| ===[[Victory pose]]s=== | | ===[[List of victory poses (SSB4)|Victory Poses]]=== |
| {{Victory/SSB4
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| |victory-theme=FireEmblemTheme.ogg
| | File:IkePose1WiiU.png |
| |victory-desc=An orchestral excerpt of the title theme from ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light}}'', which has since become the main theme of the ''Fire Emblem'' series.
| | File:IkePose2WiiU.png |
| |desc-1=Plunges Ragnell into the ground and then folds his arms while saying "You'll get no sympathy from me." ({{ja|手加減してやるほど、俺は甘くは無い|Tekagen shite yaru hodo, ore wa amaku wanai.}}, ''I'm not so naive to hold back on you.'')
| | File:IkePose3WiiU.png |
| |desc-2=Swings Ragnell twice, then casually holds it by resting its blade on his shoulder while saying "I fight for my friends." ({{ja|守るべきものの為、戦うだけだ|Mamorubekimono no tame, tatakau dakeda.}}, ''I fight for what I must protect.'')
| | </gallery> |
| |desc-3=Uses [[Aether]] and lands while looking down at his sword.
| | *Forcefully plants Ragnell into the ground, then folds his arms, saying "You'll get no sympathy from me." |
| |char=Ike}}
| | *Slashes Ragnell twice and puts it on his shoulder, saying "I fight for my friends." |
| | *Performs [[Aether]] while facing the screen. |
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| ==In [[competitive play]]== | | ==In [[Competitive play|Competitive Play]]== |
| ===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]=== | | ===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]=== |
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| ===Most historically significant players===
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| ''See also: [[:Category:Ike players (SSB4)]]''
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| *{{Sm|Ryo|USA}} - The best Ike player of all-time and the only Ike player ever ranked globally, most recently ranking 77th on the [[PGR 100]]. He is the only Ike player to top 8 a major, placing 7th at {{Trn|MLG World Finals 2015}}. Although he later began playing {{SSB4|Corrin}} and {{SSB4|Roy}} alongside Ike, he still managed to have some strong solo-Ike results, most notably 25th at both {{Trn|2GGC: Fire Emblem Saga}} and {{Trn|GENESIS 5}}.
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| *{{Sm|San|USA}} - One of the best Ike players of all-time with results on-par with Ryo's, including placing 9th at {{Trn|Get On My Level 2016}}, 17th at {{Trn|The Big House 5}}, and 33rd at {{Trn|Pound 2016}}, {{Trn|The Big House 6}}, and {{Trn|2GGC: Fire Emblem Saga}}, playing only Ike in all five events. However, he traveled less frequently than Ryo and as such was never ranked on the [[PGR]].
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| ===Tier placement and history===
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| Upon ''SSB4''{{'}}s release, players noted both Ike's buffed mobility and nerfed power, with some arguing that the mobility changes were more important in the faster-paced meta, while others believed the nerfs would be more detrimental in the long run. Eventually, the general consensus agreed that his improved mobility did not properly compensate for his unaddressed flaws and loss of some options from ''Brawl''. However, game updates (most notably [[1.0.8]]) would significantly improve Ike; he gained consistent and strong throw combos, improved hitboxes on many moves, and his lack of a midrange option was alleviated by giving his dash attack KO potential. As such, he began achieving respectable results from dedicated players such as {{Sm|Rango}}, {{Sm|Ryo}}, {{Sm|Ryuga}}, {{Sm|San}}, and {{Sm|Waldo}}. As such, he was ranked 26th on the first [[tier list]], a fairly noticeable improvement from his tier placement in ''Brawl''.
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| Although game updates considerably improved Ike's perception and were pivotal for his success, Ike has since achieved lower and more average placings at tournaments despite his playerbase continuing to advance his metagame. This is due to the improved results of other characters who benefitted more from the balance changes (such as {{SSB4|Bowser}}, {{SSB4|Marth}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}) and the inclusion of [[Downloadable content|DLC]] characters (notably {{SSB4|Corrin}}, {{SSB4|Mewtwo}} and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}), who would eventually start to surpass Ike in regard to overall representation and results. In addition, some of his best players, such as Ryuga and Rango, dropped Ike in favor of Corrin and {{SSB4|Cloud}}, respectively. These in turn saw him drop to 35th on the second tier list, and retained this 35th ranking third tier list.
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| Ike's perception became rather mixed: some players claimed that his standing was accurate, or should be slightly higher because of his improving placings; evidence stems from Ryo and San, who have earned solid results while taking sets off top players as of 2017, the latter even achieving 4th place at [[Get On My Level 2017]]. However, others claimed he should be ranked lower because of his glaring issues alongside overall mediocre representation and results, citing that he also lacks the growing success of characters ranked below him (such as {{SSB4|Duck Hunt}}, {{SSB4|Link}}, {{SSB4|Samus}}, and {{SSB4|Shulk}}), and putting him among the standing he initially had in ''Brawl''. As a result, Ike continued to drop even further, ranking 39th on the fourth and final tier list, a far cry from his initial placement. To this day, Ike's true tier standing is still greatly up for debate as some smashers like {{Sm|ZeRo}}, {{Sm|ESAM}}, and {{Sm|Raito}} claim that Ike should be ranked lower (the latter claiming that Ike is among the bottom 5 characters in the game) while other smashers like {{Sm|Dabuz}} believe that Ike should be ranked slightly higher due to his strong throw combos and fantastic ledgetraps.
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| ==In Solo Modes==
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| ===[[All-Star Mode]]===
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| In All-Star Mode, Ike is fought in Stage 6 in the 3DS version or Stage 2 in the Wii U version alongside {{SSB4|Roy}}, {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}, {{SSB4|Lucas}}, {{SSB4|Olimar}}, {{SSB4|Lucario}}, {{SSB4|Toon Link}}, {{SSB4|Villager}}, and {{SSB4|Bowser Jr.}}
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| ==={{GameIcon|SSB4-U}}[[Event Match]]es=== | | ===Notable Players=== |
| ====Solo Events====
| | *{{Sm|Akhous|France}} |
| * '''[[All-Star Battle: Brawl]]''': Ike is one of the opponents fought in this event. All of the opponents debuted in ''Brawl''.
| | *{{Sm|San|USA}} |
| * '''[[The Ultimate Swordsman]]''': Ike must defeat {{SSB4|Link}}, {{SSB4|Marth}}, {{SSB4|Meta Knight}}, {{SSB4|Toon Link}}, male {{SSB4|Robin}}, female Robin, and {{SSB4|Shulk}}. All of the opponents wield swords. | | *{{Sm|SM|USA}} |
| ====Co-op Events====
| | *{{Sm|Ryo|USA}} |
| * '''[[Mirror Magic]]''': Ike and {{SSB4|Lucina}} must defeat {{SSB4|Ganondorf}}, a [[Giant (disambiguation)|giant]] [[Metal Box|metal]] dark Ike, and a giant metal dark Lucina. | | *{{Sm|Ryuga|USA}} |
| * '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster. | |
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| ===[[Congratulations screen]]s===
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| <center>
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| ====3DS====
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| <gallery>
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| SSB4-3DS Congratulations Classic Ike.png|Classic Mode
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| SSB4-3DS Congratulations All-Star Ike.png|All-Star Mode
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| </gallery>
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| ====Wii U====
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| <gallery>
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| SSB4-Wii U Congratulations Classic Ike.png|Classic Mode
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| SSB4-Wii U Congratulations All-Star Ike.png|All-Star Mode
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| </gallery>
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| </center>
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| ==[[Trophies]]==
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| Ike's default trophy is obtained by clearing Classic Mode as Ike. His alternate trophy is obtained by clearing All-Star Mode as Ike in the 3DS version or purchasing it in the Trophy Shop for 1000G in the Wii U version. The Great Aether trophy is obtained only in the Wii U version by clearing All-Star Mode as Ike.
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| {{Trophy/Fighter
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| |name=Ike
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| |image-3ds=IkeTrophy3DS.png
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| |image-wiiu=IkeTrophyWiiU.png
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| |mode=Classic
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| |desc-ntsc=One of the main characters from the Fire Emblem series. Having fought in the {{iw|fireemblemwiki|Mad King's War}}, restored the fallen nation of {{iw|fireemblemwiki|Crimea}}, and taken on the {{iw|fireemblemwiki|Begnion}} Empire, Ike is rightly called a hero. He has the strength to back the title—one good swing of his blade can launch the heaviest of foes.
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| |desc-pal=One of the main characters from the Fire Emblem series. Having fought in the Mad King's War, played a huge part in restoring the fallen nation of Crimea, and taken on the Begnion Empire, Ike is rightly called a hero. And he has the strength to go with that title. One good swing of his blade can launch even the heaviest of fighters.
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| |gamelist-ntsc={{Trophy games|console1=GCN|game1=Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance|release1=10/2005|console2=Wii|game2=Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn|release2=11/2007}}
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| |gamelist-pal={{Trophy games|console1=GCN|game1=Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance|release1=11/2005|console2=Wii|game2=Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn|release2=03/2008}}
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| |name=Ike (Alt.)
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| |image-3ds=IkeAltTrophy3DS.png
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| |desc-ntsc=Ike's side smash is a powerful two-handed sword strike. It's one of the best launch attacks in the entire game, though it will leave you wide open when you use it. For Eruption, one of his specials, you stab the ground and unleash a pillar of fire. Charging for too long will hurt Ike, so be careful!
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| |desc-pal=Ike's side smash is a powerful two-handed sword strike. It's one of the best launch attacks in the entire game, so even though it leaves you open, it's a real winner. For Eruption, one of his specials, you stab the ground and unleash a pillar of fire that hits anyone nearby. If you charge it too long, though, you'll hurt yourself, so be careful!
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| |gamelist-ntsc={{Trophy games|console1=GCN|game1=Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance|release1=10/2005|console2=Wii|game2=Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn|release2=11/2007}}
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| |gamelist-pal={{Trophy games|console1=GCN|game1=Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance|release1=11/2005|console2=Wii|game2=Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn|release2=03/2008}}
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| |image=GreatAetherTrophyWiiU.png | |
| |desc-ntsc=Ike's Aether up special is combined with a relentless barrage of sword blows in this powerful Final Smash. He knocks targets into the air with an upward swing, and then they're stuck there as he strikes over and over. Finally, he slams them down to the ground and launches them. Just make sure that first strike hits!
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| |desc-pal=Ike's Aether up special is combined with a relentless barrage of sword blows in this powerful Final Smash. He knocks his target into the air with an upward swing, and then they're stuck there as he strikes again and again. Finally, he slams them down to the ground and launches them. Just make sure that first strike hits!
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| ==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Ike|Alternate costumes]]== | | ==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Ike|Alternate costumes]]== |
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| | ==Trophies== |
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| | :'''Ike''' |
| | ::{{flag|ntsc}} ''One of the main characters from the Fire Emblem series. Having fought in the Mad King's War, restored the fallen nation of Crimea, and taken on the Begnion Empire, Ike is rightly called a hero. He has the strength to back the title—one good swing of his blade can launch the heaviest of foes.'' |
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| | ::{{flag|pal}} ''One of the main characters from the Fire Emblem series. Having fought in the Mad King's War, played a huge part in restoring the fallen nation of Crimea, and taken on the Begnion Emprire, Ike is rightly called a hero. And he has the strength to go with that title. One good swing of his blade can launch even the heaviest of fighters.'' |
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| | {{Trophy games|console1=GCN|game1=Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (10/2005)|console2=Wii|game2=Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (11/2007)}} |
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| | :'''Ike (Alt.)''' |
| | ::{{flag|ntsc}} ''Ike's side smash is a powerful two-handed sword strike. It's one of the best launch attacks in the entire game, though it will leave you wide open when you use it. For Eruption, one of his specials, you stab the ground and unleash a pillar of fire. Charging for too long will hurt Ike, so be careful!'' |
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| | ::{{flag|pal}} ''Ike's side smash is a powerful two-handed sword strike. It's one of the best launch attacks in the entire game, so even though it leaves you open, it's a real winner. For Eruption, one of his specials, you stab the ground and unleash a pillar of fire that hits anyone nearby. If you charge it too long, though, you'll hurt yourself, so be careful!'' |
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| | {{Trophy games|console1=GCN|game1=Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance (10/2005)|console2=Wii|game2=Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn (11/2007)}} |
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| | :'''Great Aether''' |
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| | ::{{flag|ntsc}} ''Ike's Aether up special is combined with a relentless barrage of sword blows in this powerful Final Smash. He knocks targets into the air with an upward swing, and then they're stuck there as he strikes over and over. Finally, he slams them down to the ground and launches them. Just make sure that first strike hits!'' |
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| | ::{{flag|pal}} ''Ike's Aether up special is combined with a relentless barrage of sword blows in this powerful Final Smash. He knocks his target into the air with an upward swing, and then they're stuck there as he strikes again and again. Finally, he slams them down to the ground and launches them. Just make sure that first strike hits!'' |
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| | <gallery> |
| | IkeTrophy3DS.png|Classic (3DS) |
| | IkeAllStarTrophy3DS.png|Alt. (3DS) |
| | IkeTrophyWiiU.png|Classic (Wii U) |
| | IkeAltTrophyWiiU.png|Alt. (Wii U) |
| | GreatAetherTrophyWiiU.png|[[Great Aether]] |
| | </gallery> |
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| | ==In [[Event Match]]es== |
| | ===Solo Events=== |
| | * '''[[All-Star Battle: Brawl]]''': Ike is one of the opponents fought in this event. All opponents debut in ''Brawl'', and reappear in ''Smash 4''. |
| | * '''[[The Ultimate Swordsman]]''': Ike must defeat the other swordfighters, {{SSB4|Link}}, {{SSB4|Marth}}, {{SSB4|Meta Knight}}, {{SSB4|Toon Link}}, both male and female {{SSB4|Robin}}s, and {{SSB4|Shulk}} in [[8-Player Smash]]. |
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| | ===Co-op Events=== |
| | * '''[[Mirror Magic]]''': Ike and {{SSB4|Lucina}} must defeat {{SSB4|Ganondorf}}, who is aided by Giant Metal Dark Ike and Lucina. |
| | * '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster. |
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| ==Gallery== | | ==Gallery== |
| <gallery> | | <gallery> |
| SSB4_-_Ike_Reveal.jpg|The Pic of the Day revealing Ike's return to the series. | | SSB4_-_Ike_Reveal.jpg|Ike as revealed in the pic of the day. |
| Ike amiibo.png|Ike's [[amiibo]]. | | Ike amiibo.png|Ike's [[amiibo]]. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-4.jpg|Using [[Aether]] on {{SSB4|Zero Suit Samus}}. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-4.jpg|[[Aether]]. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-7.jpg|Using [[Counter]] against {{SSB4|Little Mac}}'s [[Straight Lunge]]. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-7.jpg|Using [[Counter]] against {{SSB4|Little Mac}}'s [[Straight Lunge]]. |
| SSB4_-_Ike_Reveal 2.jpg|Alongside a taunting {{SSB4|Villager}}. | | SSB4_-_Ike_Reveal 2.jpg|Ike with a female {{SSB4|Villager}}. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-1.jpg|One of Ike's [[idle pose]]s. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-1.jpg|An [[Idle pose|idle]] Ike, wielding Ragnell. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-2.jpg|Using his dash attack against {{SSB4|Samus}}' dash attack. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-2.jpg|Ike battling {{SSB4|Samus}}. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-3.jpg|A close-up of Ike in {{forwiiu}}. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-3.jpg|Close-up. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-5.jpg|Alongside {{SSB4|Marth}}. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-5.jpg|Alongside fellow {{Uv|Fire Emblem}} representative {{SSB4|Marth}}. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-6.jpg|Ike's other idle pose. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-6.jpg|Another idle pose. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-8.jpg|Using his down smash. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-8.jpg|Aboard the [[Halberd]]. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-9.jpg|Using his up smash on Samus and {{SSB4|Sheik}} in {{for3ds}}. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-9.jpg|In the 3DS version, launching Samus and {{SSB4|Sheik}}. |
| SSB4_Ike_Screen-10.jpg|Ike being attacked by the [[fish]] on [[Balloon Fight]]. | | SSB4_Ike_Screen-10.jpg|On the [[Balloon Fight]] stage, attacked by the [[fish]]. |
| SSB4 Ike Rocket Belt.jpg|Using a [[Rocket Belt]]. | | SSB4 Ike Rocket Belt.jpg|Ike using a [[Rocket Belt]] on the [[Find Mii]] stage. |
| SSB4 Eruption.jpg|Using [[Eruption]] on {{SSB4|Mario}} in a [[Unused content (SSB4)#Aesthetics|pre-release picture]]. | | SSB4 Eruption.jpg|Ike using [[Eruption]] at {{SSB4|Mario}}. Oddly, the flames are red, in which in the final game they are blue. |
| SSB4 - Robin Screen-4.jpg|Ike fighting {{SSB4|Robin}}. | | SSB4 - Robin Screen-4.jpg|Ike with a male {{SSB4|Robin}}. |
| Double Team Strike SSB4.jpg|Ike being hit by {{SSB4|Lucario}}'s [[Double Team]]
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| </gallery> | | </gallery> |
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| ==Trivia== | | == Trivia == |
| *{{s|fireemblemwiki|Ragnell}}'s flames [[Unused content (SSB4)#Aesthetics|initially retained their orange coloration from ''Super Smash Bros. Brawl'']], but were later recolored as sky blue for the final release of ''Super Smash Bros. 4''. | | *Ike is the only character representing the ''Fire Emblem'' universe in all ''Super Smash Bros.'' games that does not have an up smash that is a quick upwards stab, nor a neutral aerial that can hit twice. He is also the only ''Fire Emblem'' fighter to use an arm and leg to attack (in his neutral combo), excluding {{SSB4|Marth}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}, and {{SSB4|Roy}}'s pummels. |
| *During Ike's victory pose in which he swings Ragnell twice, his Japanese quote is significantly longer than his English quote. As a result, there is a moment of silence before his name is announced in non-Japanese versions.
| | *Prior to the release of the game, Ike's [[Eruption]] flames were their ''Brawl'' colour of orange before being changed to blue flames upon release, in order to fit his ingame title from his origin game, "Hero of Blue Flames". |
| *As of ''[[Super Smash Bros. Ultimate]]'', ''SSB4'' is the only game in which Ike's ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn}}'' design appears as his default costume.
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| *Ike is supposed to have a 6-frame jumpsquat according to his parameters. Due to a float precision error involving the original animation's length, however, it ends up being 7 instead.
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| *Ike and {{SSB4|Olimar}} are the only characters in ''SSB4'' whose names start with vowels.
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| *One of the pictures in the official ''Super Smash Bros.'' Facebook page and Nintendo of Europe's official Twitter account is Ike fighting {{SSB4|Samus}} on [[Pyrosphere]] [https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/577182622843031552] with a description "What do you fight for?", referencing Ike's famous "I fight for my friends" victory line.
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| **The line is referenced again in Ike's [https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/520997527207030784 entry] on NoE's Twitter, having a description "[[For Fun]]? [[For Glory]]? No. For Friends." | |
| **The line is referenced once again in Alph's [https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/597461297073098753 entry] on the same Twitter, stating "[[Pikmin (species)|His friends]] fight for him."
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| *Ike’s render for this game bears a resemblance to the pose seen in [https://cdn.fireemblemwiki.org/1/18/FERD_Zelgius.png official artwork] for {{s|fireemblemwiki|Zelgius}}, Ike’s rival in his home games.
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