Editing Ike (SSB4)

{{disambig2|Ike's appearance in ''Super Smash Bros. 4''|the character in other contexts|Ike}}

{{Infobox Character

|image = [[File:Ike SSB4.png|250px]]

|game = SSB4

|availability = [[Starter character|Starter]]

|tier = E

}}

'''Ike''' ({{ja|アイク|Aiku}}, ''Ike'') is a playable character in ''[[Super Smash Bros. 4]]''. His return to the series was announced in a [[List of Director's Room Miiverse posts|Director's Room Miiverse post]] on May 23rd, 2014, which coincided with the ninth anniversary of the North American release of ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones}}''.

Jason Adkins and Michihiko Hagi reprise their roles as Ike's voice actors in the English and Japanese versions, respectively, albeit via recycled voice clips from ''[[Super Smash Bros. Brawl]]''.

However, Ike has received some nerfs, and he also retains his flaws from ''Brawl''. His [[jab cancel]], which was perhaps his best damage-racking option in the previous game, is now extremely situational due to his [[neutral attack]]’s higher overall lag. His high [[weight]] renders his overall mobility as below-average at best in spite of its improvements, making him vulnerable to rushdowns and combos. His lack of any [[projectile]] also leaves him susceptible to [[camp]]ing. Ike also has very few sufficiently fast moves (with [[jab]] and [[back aerial]] being some of his only moves that come out faster than frame 10), as well as high ending lag in many attacks. In return for Ike’s attacks having better frame data overall, most of them have significantly decreased knockback, slightly lower damage output, and shorter range. His already large hurtbox is slightly taller. Finally, Ike’s recovery is still predictable and linear, making it vulnerable to attacks when ascending.

==Attributes==

Aside from [[Counter]], his other special moves have been nerfed in particular ways. [[Eruption]] has been the most noticeably affected, as it now deals less damage, has less knockback, and only grants super [[armor]] when it is fully charged. Lastly, Ike's already large hurtbox is slightly larger, and he is slightly heavier. When coupled with the changes to hitstun canceling, these changes collectively make him more susceptible to combos than in ''Brawl''.

===Aesthetics===

***{{buff|This gives the move more hitstun at far ranges, improving its jab canceling potential (although this is offset by the move's higher ending lag).}}

***{{nerf|However, this also hinders its ability to lead into the second hit at far ranges, especially since it launches opponents at a lower angle compared to the previous far hitbox (70° → 65°).}}

**{{nerf|The second hit transitions into the first hit later when held later (frame 13 → 18).}}

**{{nerf|The second hit has a new animation where Ike does not kick as far forward and the move now uses smaller static hitboxes (5u/5u/5u → 3.5u/3.5u/4.5u). This gives the move less range.}}

**{{nerf|Forward tilt deals less damage (15% (blade)/14% (upper body) → 12.5%) and knockback (38 (base), 100 (scaling) → 30/97), significantly hindering its KO potential.}}

***{{buff|However, it does deal more damage than the previous lower body hitbox (12% → 12.5%), although its knockback is still lower.}}

***{{nerf|The move also does not cover Ike's lower body, giving it less range below him, especially the up angled version.}}

**{{change|Forward tilt's hitbox is now static, rather than being attached to Ike's sword. This gives it more consistent horizontal range but removes its ability to hit opponents far into the Z-axis.}}

*[[Up tilt]]:

**{{buff|Up tilt has less startup lag (frame 13 → 11) with its total duration subsequently reduced (FAF 50 → 48).}}

**{{change|Up tilt now uses one extended hitbox rather than four normal hitboxes.}}

***{{nerf|This new hitbox does not extend as far behind the sword (y offset: -2 → y stretch: 1) and the late hit also does not extend as far away from the sword (y offset: 13 → 12), giving up tilt less range in all directions overall.}}

**{{nerf|The clean hit has a smaller hitbox (6u → 5u).}}

*[[Down tilt]]:

***{{buff|When combined with its much faster speed, lower power and the changes to hitstun canceling and DI, these changes greatly improve its combo potential at lower percents.}}

***{{nerf|However, these changes also significantly hinder its edgeguarding and spacing potential.}}

*[[Dash attack]]:

**{{buff|Dash attack has less startup lag (frame 18 → 15).}}

**{{buff|Dash attack now has a late hitbox from frames 17-19 which deals 9%, more knockback (70 (base), 70 (scaling) → 60/100) and launches opponents at a 45° angle. This extends dash attack's duration (frames 18-19 → 15-16/17-19).}}

**{{nerf|Dash attack has more ending lag (FAF 51 → 53).}}

**{{change|The late hit's far hitbox is positioned lower (z offset: -5 → -4).}}

**{{nerf|Forward smash has more ending lag (FAF 80 → 84).}}

**{{nerf|The early hit has smaller hitboxes (6u/5u → 4u/3u).}}

**{{nerf|The late hit's back hitbox has been removed and the hilt hitbox has been moved further away from Ike (y offset: 0 → 2), giving it much less range behind Ike.}}

**{{nerf|The late hit's far hitbox is smaller (6u → 5.5u) although it has been moved further away from Ike to retain its horizontal range (y offset: 10.5 → 11).}}

**{{buff|The clean hit's hitboxes have swapped priority, making the hitboxes with higher launch angles easier to land.}}

**{{buff|The late hit now uses one extended hitbox which extends further inside of Ike (z offset: 2 → z stretch: 6), giving it more range in front of Ike.}}

**{{nerf|Up smash has more ending lag (FAF 67 → 71).}}

**{{nerf|The clean hit's far hitboxes have been moved closer to Ike (y offset: 12/8 → 11/7.5) and the move has a new animation where Ike does not swing his sword as far horizontally, reducing its range.}}

**{{nerf|The removal of [[DACUS]] slightly hinders up smash's approach potential.}}

*[[Down smash]]:

**{{change|The first and clean second hit launch opponents at a lower, consistent angle (65°/70°/75°/82° → 48°).}}

***{{buff|This improves their KO potential near the horizontal blastzone.}}

**{{nerf|Down smash has a new animation where Ike does not swing his sword as far in either direction. This gives it less range despite the first and clean second hit's hitboxes being moved further away from Ike (y offset: 12/-12 → 15/-15).}}

**{{nerf|Down smash does not extend as far inside of Ike (y offset: 0 → y stretch: 4), giving it less range inside of Ike.}}

**{{nerf|The first and clean second hit have smaller hitboxes (5u (hit 1)/6u (clean hit 2) → 4.2u (both)).}}

**{{nerf|The late second hit launches opponents at a lower, consistent angle (65°/70°/75°/82° → 61°) which overall hinders its KO potential, particularly when landing the hilt.}}

**{{nerf|Neutral aerial has a shorter duration (frames 15-32 → 12-21 (clean)/22-27 (late)) and the move has received a new late hit which deals less damage (9% → 7%).}}

***{{buff|The new late hit however improves the move's combo potential at higher percents.}}

**{{nerf|The nearest hitbox has been removed.}}

*[[Forward aerial]]:

***{{nerf|However, the nearest hitbox has been removed, giving the move less range inside of Ike.}}

**{{change|Forward aerial only makes a medium slam sound effect when it connects instead of a strong slam.}}

***{{buff|However, this new animation is shorter (59 frames → 55), decreasing the amount of time Ike cannot grab ledges after performing the move.}}

*[[Up aerial]]:

**{{change|The upper hitbox now launches opponents horizontally (270° → 50°), no longer being a meteor smash. This hinders its edgeguarding potential but improves its KO potential on stage.}}

**{{nerf|Down aerial no longer has a late hit, greatly reducing its duration (frames 16-17 (clean)/18-30 (late) → 16-17).}}

**{{nerf|The highest and lowest hitboxes have been moved closer to Ike (y offset: 3/-7 → 2/-6). This gives the move slightly less range above Ike although it does have marginally more range below him due to the lower hitbox's larger size.}}

**{{buff|The removal of [[Meteor smash#Meteor canceling|meteor canceling]] improves down aerial's reliability.}}

**{{buff|Ike decelerates more when landing the attack (0.5 (grounded)/0.3 (aerial) → 0.8/0.4), making it safer.}}

**{{change|The attack's hitbox is now static, rather than being attached to Ike's sword. This gives it more consistent horizontal range but removes its ability to hit opponents far into the Z-axis.}}

**{{nerf|The attack now has one smaller extended hitbox (5u/5u/5u/5u → 3.5u) which does not extend as far as the previous hitboxes, reducing its range.}}

***{{nerf|This also means that the attack now has a consistent launch angle, keeping the lowest launch angle from the previous furthest hitbox (60°/65°/70°/75° → 60°). This hinders its KO potential when landed at close range.}}

**{{nerf|Aether has less super armor frames (frames 18-38 → 18-21) and no longer allows Ike to grab edges from behind, hindering its safety and recovery potential.}}

**{{buff|The weakening of [[Smash directional influence|SDI]] makes Aether significantly more difficult to escape from.}}

**{{change|Aether no longer moves Ike forward without directional input.}}

**{{bugfix|The double Ragnell glitch has been removed.}}

**{{buff|Counter has more [[invincibility]] (frames 11-16 → 9-16).}}

**{{buff|Both the counter and the attack have slightly less ending lag (FAF 60 (counter)/37 (attack) → 59/36).}}

**{{buff|The attack uses one larger extended hitbox (6u/6u/6u/7u → 9u).}}

***{{nerf|However, this hitbox does not extend as far as the previous hitboxes, giving less horizontal range.}}

|neutraldesc=A jab, followed by a front kick, followed by a kneeling downward slash. Due to it hitting on frame 4, it has the lowest amount of start-up lag out of Ike's entire moveset. When coupled with its respectable overall damage output, moderate knockback and its last hit's impressive range, it is very useful for damage racking and spacing. Unlike in ''Brawl'', it is significantly less effective at [[jab cancel]]ing into itself. Despite this, it's first hit can still be jab canceled quite reliably into down tilt because of the latter's minimal start-up lag.

|ftiltname= 

|ftiltdesc=A lunging outward slash. It can be angled and has a respectable damage output, high knockback growth, and impressive range for a tilt attack. It KOs middleweights at 121%/110% (''3DS''/''Wii U'') while near the edge of {{SSB4|Final Destination}}. However, its moderate start-up and ending lag make it punishable.

|utiltname= 

|nsc2name=Furious Eruption

|nsc2dmg=7% (uncharged), 32% (fully charged base), 25% (fully charged top)

|ssdefname=Quick Draw

|ssdefdmg=6% (uncharged), 13% (fully charged)

|dsc1name=Paralyzing Counter

|dsc1dmg=1%

|dsc2name=Smash Counter

|dsc2desc=The counterattack has a larger hitbox and a much higher damage multiplier. However, Ike counterattacks after a delay, instead of instantly. As a result, opponents can easily avoid it, especially if it is used in the air. As a result, it is best used against moves that have considerable ending lag. It also comes out on frame 11 and has a duration of 27 frames.

|fsname=Great Aether

|fsdesc=Performs an upward slash while Ragnell's blade is engulfed in flames. If any opponents are hit, they are launched upward and Ike throws Ragnell into the air along with them. He then leaps upward, catches Ragnell while its blade is still aflame, and unleashes a devastating series of slashes alongside a thrust, a wheel kick and a roundhouse kick. Ike then concludes the attack with a descending, two-handed slash that slams the opponent to the ground and creates a massive explosion upon impact. The explosion launches the opponent and any bystanders toward the upper blast line. It is one of the strongest [[Final Smash]]es in the game, as it will KO middleweights at 19% from anywhere on Final Destination in the ''3DS'' version. However, it is possible for its second hit to miss if Ike is slightly far away from the opponent.

}}

===[[On-screen appearance]]===

===[[Idle pose]]s===

{{Idle

|desc-2=Rubs the edge of Ragnell's blade.

|image-1=IkeIdlePose1WiiU.jpg

|victory-theme=FireEmblemTheme.ogg

|victory-desc=An orchestral excerpt of the title theme from ''{{s|fireemblemwiki|Fire Emblem: Shadow Dragon and the Blade of Light}}'', which has since become the main theme of the ''Fire Emblem'' series.

|desc-3=Uses [[Aether]] and lands while looking down at his sword.

|char=Ike}}

===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]===

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===Tier placement and history===

Upon ''SSB4''{{'}}s release, players noted both Ike's buffed mobility and nerfed power, with some arguing that the mobility changes were more important in the faster-paced meta, while others believed the nerfs would be more detrimental in the long run. Eventually, the general consensus agreed that his improved mobility did not properly compensate for his unaddressed flaws and loss of some options from ''Brawl''. However, game updates (most notably [[1.0.8]]) would significantly improve Ike; he gained consistent and strong throw combos, improved hitboxes on many moves, and his lack of a midrange option was alleviated by giving his dash attack KO potential. As such, he began achieving respectable results from dedicated players such as {{Sm|Rango}}, {{Sm|Ryo}}, {{Sm|Ryuga}}, {{Sm|San}}, and {{Sm|Waldo}}. As such, he was ranked 26th on the first [[tier list]], a fairly noticeable improvement from his tier placement in ''Brawl''.

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==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Ike|Alternate costumes]]==

**The line is referenced again in Ike's [https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/520997527207030784 entry] on NoE's Twitter, having a description "[[For Fun]]? [[For Glory]]? No. For Friends."

**The line is referenced once again in Alph's [https://twitter.com/NintendoEurope/status/597461297073098753 entry] on the same Twitter, stating "[[Pikmin (species)|His friends]] fight for him."

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