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Overall, Greninja is a quick-footed yet somewhat unorthodox combo-oriented fighter, balancing respectable combo ability with stronger yet more punishable KO potential and Weight. True to its name, mastering Greninja requires the art of deception through mastering its unique special moves along with knowledge of its unusual combo and KO setups, while minimizing openings due to the ending lag of its attacks and sluggish grab game. While Greninja's learning curve only gives it an average amount of representation, players such as {{Sm|iStudying}} have spearheaded its metagame and shown Greninja's strengths in competitive play.
Overall, Greninja is a quick-footed yet somewhat unorthodox combo-oriented fighter, balancing respectable combo ability with stronger yet more punishable KO potential and Weight. True to its name, mastering Greninja requires the art of deception through mastering its unique special moves along with knowledge of its unusual combo and KO setups, while minimizing openings due to the ending lag of its attacks and sluggish grab game. While Greninja's learning curve only gives it an average amount of representation, players such as {{Sm|iStudying}} have spearheaded its metagame and shown Greninja's strengths in competitive play.


==Update history==
*{{buff|Forward smash's knockback scaling was increased (99 → 101).}}
Greninja has received a mix of buffs and nerfs from game updates.  Update [[1.0.4]] notably nerfed Greninja by lowering the knockback on a handful of its moves, and removing the Shadow Sneak glitch that allowed it to cancel the landing lag of its aerials. The most significantly nerfed move, however, was its up smash; initially one of the best anti-airs and smash attacks in the game, by virtue of its huge range and fast interpretability allowing it to more easily beat out aerials and juggle opponents while even comboing into Greninja's own aerials, its ending lag and hitbox sizes were significantly increased and decreased respectively, so it is much harder for Greninja to take full advantage of the move. Greninja's hurtbox size at the top of its head was also increased in 1.0.4, making it easier to hit and rendering its once-decent [[crouch]] nearly useless. However, these nerfs were slightly compensated for as Shadow Sneak was buffed to a degree. Like 1.0.4, [[List of updates (SSB4-3DS)#1.0.5|1.0.5]] removed another exploitable glitch, the running Shadow Sneak glitch.
*{{buff|Sweetspotted up smash's second hit's knockback scaling was increased (103 104).}}
 
*{{buff|Down smash's knockback scaling was increased (90 92).}}
However, Greninja has also seen some improvements in later updates. [[1.0.8]] noticeably improved its forward tilt's utility for spacing. Update [[1.1.0]] gave Greninja a mix of buffs and nerfs, though the former was more prevalent than the latter. While its down throw's damage output was decreased and Water Shuriken no longer stalls Greninja in the air after a jump, its down throw's ending lag was reduced, while Water Shuriken's startup was decreased, allowing it to camp more effectively. In addition to its ending lag, down throw's damage decrease indirectly improved its combo potential; one notable combo is into forward aerial for a potential KO at high percentages, although it is nevertheless dependent on DI. Update [[1.1.1]] only changed Greninja's Shadow Dash custom, decreasing its ending lag.
*{{buff|All variations of Shadow Sneak have had their knockback scaling increased (102 104 (front Shadow Sneak/Shadow Strike), 101 103 (back Shadow Sneak/Shadow Strike), 90 → 92 (front/back Shadow Dash)).}}
 
The changes to the shield mechanics brought about by updates 1.1.0 and 1.1.1 were overall beneficial for Greninja: although its poor [[out of shield]] game was further weakened, several of its attacks have increased hitlag multipliers (such as the last hits of its jab, back aerial, up aerial and fully charged Water Shuriken, as well as its forward and down aerials) and are therefore safer on shield; particularly, forward aerial has become a much more useful move thanks to its safety on shield while providing relatively lenient spacing, and its neutral aerial also benefits due to its average damage and low landing lag.
 
Update [[1.1.3]] slightly buffed the knockback to Greninja's smash attacks and all variations of Shadow Sneak, which helps compensate for 1.0.4's weakening of its KO potential. Lastly, update [[1.1.5]] decreased dash attack's and standing grab's startup lag, and its forward and back aerials' landing lag. It also considerably improved Hydro Pump's reliability by tweaking its angle to avoid it from "headbonking".
 
Despite popular perception of being heavily nerfed, Greninja fares about the same as he did at launch.
 
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} [[1.0.4]]'''
{{UpdateList/1.0.4|char=Greninja}}
 
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4-3ds}} 1.0.5'''
*{{nerf|Fixed a glitch where Greninja could dash before using Shadow Sneak. This hinders its approach and mindgame potential.}}
 
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.0.8]]'''
*{{buff|Forward tilt has much less ending lag (FAF 42 33), greatly improving its spacing potential.}}
*{{buff|Forward tilt deals more damage (6.5% → 7.3%). The foot hitbox’s knockback scaling was not fully compensated (112 110), improving its KO potential.}}
*{{nerf|Forward tilt’s leg and body hitboxes deal less knockback 20 (base), 112 (scaling) 30/90 (leg)/40/70 (body), hindering their KO potential.}}
**{{buff|However, their higher base knockback along with the move’s lower ending lag greatly improves their safety on hit, with the move no longer being punishable on hit at lower percents.}}
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.0]]'''
*{{nerf|Down throw deals 1% less damage|6%|5%.}}
*{{buff|Down throw has decreased ending lag (FAF 50 43), and altered knockback (65 base/50 growth → 53 base/75 scaling). Alongside the decreased damage, this grants it combo potential especially at low-mid percents.}}
*{{buff|Water Shuriken's startup lag decreased (frame 25 → 20).}}
*{{bugfix|Fixed a glitch where Water Shuriken stalled Greninja in midair after a jump.}}
**{{nerf|This worsens its recovery potential.}}
 
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.1]]'''
*{{buff|Shadow Dash's ending lag decreased.}}
*{{change|Second [[victory pose]] slightly changed.}}
 
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.3]]'''
{{UpdateList/1.1.3|char=Greninja}}
 
'''{{GameIcon|ssb4}} [[1.1.5]]'''
{{UpdateList/1.1.5|char=Greninja}}


==Moveset==
==Moveset==
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However, updates [[1.1.3]] and [[1.1.5]] gave Greninja noteworthy buffs, with an increase to its KO power and combo options, as well as reduced landing lag on some of its aerial moves. With these buffs, Greninja began to see higher representation and some players began to realize its potential once again, largely due to the work of {{Sm|DarkAura}}, {{Sm|Eddy}}, {{Sm|Oisiitofu}}, {{Sm|Some}}, {{Sm|Venia}}, and most notably {{Sm|iStudying}}, who achieved 2nd place at [[B.E.A.S.T 6]]. These results allowed it to rise to 21st on the second tier list.
However, updates [[1.1.3]] and [[1.1.5]] gave Greninja noteworthy buffs, with an increase to its KO power and combo options, as well as reduced landing lag on some of its aerial moves. With these buffs, Greninja began to see higher representation and some players began to realize its potential once again, largely due to the work of {{Sm|DarkAura}}, {{Sm|Eddy}}, {{Sm|Oisiitofu}}, {{Sm|Some}}, {{Sm|Venia}}, and most notably {{Sm|iStudying}}, who achieved 2nd place at [[B.E.A.S.T 6]]. These results allowed it to rise to 21st on the second tier list.


Despite its slightly rare results, Greninja was ranked 22nd on the third tier list, and is seen to be a viable option in tournaments, while also being backed by excellent tournament representation. After Some placed 9th at [[Frostbite 2017]], however, Greninja's results dropped once again. Greninja was once again thought to not be as great as initially perceived, especially after [[2GGC: Greninja Saga]] saw it placing rather inconsistently (this is largely attributed to the Greninja players eliminating themselves during the top 48 part of the bracket). Despite an explosion of Greninja results appearing recently in tournaments, voting for its tier placement was already done, resulting in Greninja being ranked at 26th on the fourth and final tier list, its lowest placement so far. Regardless, it was generally agreed that this burst of good tournament results could cause Greninja's placement to rise on a future tier list, but this ultimately didn’t happen.
Despite its slightly rare results, Greninja was ranked 22nd on the third tier list, and is seen to be a viable option in tournaments, while also being backed by excellent tournament representation. After Some placed 9th at [[Frostbite 2017]], however, Greninja's results dropped once again. Greninja was once again thought to not be as great as initially, esecially after [[2GGC: Greninja Saga]] saw it placing rather inconsistently (this is largely attributed to the Greninja players eliminating themselves during the top 48 part of the bracket). Despite an explosion of Greninja's results appearing recently in tournaments, voting for its tier placement was already done, resulting on Greninja being ranked at 26th on the fourth and final tier list, its lowest placement so far. Regardless, it was generally agreed that this burst of good tournament results could cause Greninja's placement on a future tier list, although this ultimately didn’t happen.


===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]===
===[[Official Custom Moveset Project]]===
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*{{Sm|Stroder|USA}} - One of the best Greninja players in the United States. Placed 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: West Side Saga}}, 17th at {{Trn|2GGT: Mexico Saga}}, 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: SCR Saga}}, and 33rd at both {{Trn|EVO 2016}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Nairo}}, {{Sm|Elegant}}, and {{Sm|falln}}. Formerly ranked in Area 51 on the [[Panda Global Rankings v4]].
*{{Sm|Stroder|USA}} - One of the best Greninja players in the United States. Placed 13th at {{Trn|2GGC: West Side Saga}}, 17th at {{Trn|2GGT: Mexico Saga}}, 25th at {{Trn|2GGC: SCR Saga}}, and 33rd at both {{Trn|EVO 2016}} and {{Trn|2GG: Hyrule Saga}} with wins over players such as {{Sm|Nairo}}, {{Sm|Elegant}}, and {{Sm|falln}}. Formerly ranked in Area 51 on the [[Panda Global Rankings v4]].


==In Solo Modes==
==[[List of Super Smash Bros. 4 character trailers#Charizard and Greninja|Reveal trailer]]==
===[[All-Star Mode]]===
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In All-Star Mode, Greninja is fought in Stage 7 in the 3DS version or Stage 1 in the Wii U version alongside {{SSB4|Wii Fit Trainer}}, {{SSB4|Rosalina & Luma}}, {{SSB4|Dark Pit}}, {{SSB4|Lucina}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}}, {{SSB4|Corrin}}, and {{SSB4|Bayonetta}}.
 
==={{GameIcon|SSB4-U}}[[Event Match]]es===
====Solo Events====
* '''[[Fire-Type Frenzy]]''': As {{SSB4|Charizard}}, the player must defeat Greninja, {{SSB4|Pikachu}} and {{SSB4|Lucario}}.
* '''[[New Challengers 2]]''': Greninja is one of the seven opponents fought in this event alongside {{SSB4|Palutena}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}}, {{SSB4|Dark Pit}}, {{SSB4|Mega Man}}, and {{SSB4|Pac-Man}}.
* '''{{b|Pokémon Battle|SSB4}}''': Greninja must defeat Pikachu, Charizard, and Lucario.
====Co-op Events====
* '''[[Pokémon Multi Battle!]]''': Greninja is one of the player's Pokémon to use, as well as being one of the opponents.
* '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster.
 
===[[Congratulations screen]]s===
<center>
====3DS====
<gallery>
SSB4-3DS Congratulations Classic Greninja.png|Classic Mode
SSB4-3DS Congratulations All-Star Greninja.png|All-Star Mode
</gallery>
====Wii U====
<gallery>
SSB4-Wii U Congratulations Classic Greninja.png|Classic Mode
SSB4-Wii U Congratulations All-Star Greninja.png|All-Star Mode
</gallery>
</center>


==[[Trophies]]==
==[[Trophies]]==
Greninja's default trophy is obtained by clearing Classic Mode as Greninja. Its alternate trophy is obtained by clearing All-Star Mode as Greninja in the 3DS version or purchasing it in the Trophy Shop for 1000G in the Wii U version. The Secret Ninja Attack trophy is obtained only in the Wii U version by clearing All-Star Mode as Greninja.
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==In [[Event Match]]es==
===Solo Events===
* '''[[Fire-Type Frenzy]]''': As {{SSB4|Charizard}}, the player must defeat Greninja, {{SSB4|Pikachu}} and {{SSB4|Lucario}}.
* '''[[New Challengers 2]]''': Greninja is one of the seven opponents fought in this event alongside {{SSB4|Palutena}}, {{SSB4|Robin}}, {{SSB4|Shulk}}, {{SSB4|Dark Pit}}, {{SSB4|Mega Man}}, and {{SSB4|Pac-Man}}.
* '''{{b|Pokémon Battle|SSB4}}''': Greninja must defeat Pikachu, Charizard, and Lucario.
===Co-op Events===
* '''[[Pokémon Multi Battle!]]''': Greninja is one of the player's Pokémon to use, as well as being one of the opponents.
* '''[[The Ultimate Battle]]''': Two players select a character and must defeat the entire roster.


==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Greninja|Alternate costumes]]==
==[[Alternate costume (SSB4)#Greninja|Alternate costumes]]==
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|{{Head|Greninja|g=SSB4|s=50px|cl=Purple}}
|{{Head|Greninja|g=SSB4|s=50px|cl=Purple}}
|}
|}
==[[List of Super Smash Bros. 4 character trailers#Charizard and Greninja|Reveal trailer]]==
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==Gallery==
==Gallery==
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**Interestingly, the event Greninja is always male, which suggests that the ''SSB4'' Greninja is as well. Despite this, it is not listed under a specific gender per Nintendo and its affiliates' stance on, for the most part, using gender-neutral pronouns for all Pokémon, regardless of a species' appearance/gender ratio or lack thereof.
**Interestingly, the event Greninja is always male, which suggests that the ''SSB4'' Greninja is as well. Despite this, it is not listed under a specific gender per Nintendo and its affiliates' stance on, for the most part, using gender-neutral pronouns for all Pokémon, regardless of a species' appearance/gender ratio or lack thereof.
**Prior to the release of ''Pokémon Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'', {{iw|bulbapedia|Water Shuriken|move}} was also one of Greninja's signature moves. However, {{iw|bulbapedia|Accelgor|Pokémon}} later gained access to Water Shuriken in ''Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'', albeit via {{s|bulbapedia|Move Reminder}}.
**Prior to the release of ''Pokémon Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'', {{iw|bulbapedia|Water Shuriken|move}} was also one of Greninja's signature moves. However, {{iw|bulbapedia|Accelgor|Pokémon}} later gained access to Water Shuriken in ''Omega Ruby'' and ''Alpha Sapphire'', albeit via {{s|bulbapedia|Move Reminder}}.
*Greninja knows six official Pokémon {{s|bulbapedia|move}}s, all of which it can legally learn in the ''Pokémon'' {{s|bulbapedia|core series}}. In addition to Water Shuriken, {{iw|bulbapedia|Shadow Sneak|move}}, {{iw|bulbapedia|Hydro Pump|move}}, and {{iw|bulbapedia|Substitute|move}}, it uses {{iw|bulbapedia|Mat Block|move}} to initiate [[Secret Ninja Attack]], and {{iw|bulbapedia|Double Team|move}} during one of its [[victory pose]]s.
*Greninja knows six official Pokémon {{s|bulbapedia|move}}s, all of which it can legally learn in the ''Pokémon'' {{s|bulbapedia|core series}}. In addition to Water Shuriken, {{iw|bulbapedia|Shadow Sneak|move}}, {{iw|bulbapedia|Hydro Pump|move}}, and {{iw|bulbapedia|Substitute|move}}, it uses {{iw|bulbapedia|Mat Block|move}}to initiate [[Secret Ninja Attack]], and {{iw|bulbapedia|Double Team|move}} during one of its [[victory pose]]s.
*Greninja's color palette of its official artwork and in-game appearance are slightly different. For its in-game appearance, its body and legs are a slightly darker shade of blue, while its webbings, face, and chest are cream instead of beige.
*Greninja's color palette of its official artwork and in-game appearance are slightly different. For its in-game appearance, its body and legs are a slightly darker shade of blue, while its webbings, face, and chest are cream instead of beige.
*Greninja and {{SSB4|Lucario}} are the only Pokémon to not have a custom move that share a name with an actual Pokémon move.
*Greninja and {{SSB4|Lucario}} are the only Pokémon to not have a custom move that share a name with an actual Pokémon move.

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