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These are charts showing the [[KO]] percentages of every [[forward smash]] as well as the base [[knockback]] and knockback scaling values of the strongest [[hitbox]] (or in the case of multi-hit smashes, the values of the final hit when all hits connect) for every character in the ''[[Super Smash Bros. (series)|Super Smash Bros. series]]''. The forward smashes are given a general rank in power in comparison to other forward smashes based on the knockback produced by their strongest hitbox at critical percentage. | |||
These are charts showing the | |||
==Chart (SSB)== | ==Chart (SSB)== | ||
KO percentages are estimated by the knockback on {{SSB|Mario}} in the center of | Note that in ''[[Super Smash Bros.]]'', knockback values cannot be obtained, so instead the KO percentage is shown. KO percentages are estimated by the knockback on {{SSB|Mario}} in the center of [[Dream Land]]. | ||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Character || Strongest Hitbox damage || Strongest Hitbox KO percentage | |||
! Character | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | |Mario || 17% || 100% | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |Kirby || 17% || 80% | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Link || 20% || 90% | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | |Pikachu || 18% || 95% | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Donkey Kong || 20% || 84% | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | |Yoshi || 18% || 92% | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Samus || 18% || 100% | |||
|- | |- | ||
|Fox || 17% || 98% | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | |Ness || 18% || 95% | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |Jigglypuff || 16% || 100% | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |Luigi || 15% || 105% | ||
|- | |- | ||
|Captain Falcon || 18% || 95% | |||
|} | |} | ||
=== | ==Chart (SSBM)== | ||
The following chart lists damages, KO percentages, and knockback values for the forward smashes in ''Melee''. This chart is by courtesy of [[User:Mr. Anon|Mr. Anon]] with the generous help of [[User:Omega Tyrant|Omega Tyrant]]. The author has chosen to include ''Melee'' knockback units, though these units are known be somewhat unreliable. | |||
{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Character || Uncharged Other Hitbox damage|| Uncharged Strongest Hitbox damage || Fully Charged Other Hitbox damage || Fully Charged Strongest Hitbox damage|| Uncharged Other Hitboxes KO% || Uncharged Strongest Hitbox KO% || Fully Charged Other Hitboxes KO% || Fully Charged Strongest Hitbox KO% || Uncharged Base Knockback || Fully Charged Base Knockback || Uncharged Knockback Scaling || Fully Charged Knockback Scaling | |||
! Character | |||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Mario || 11% || 18% || 17% || 24% || 190% || 120% || 145% || 75% || 35 || 45 || 0.77 || 0.94 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Dr. Mario || NA || 19% || NA || 25% || NA || 100% || NA || 70% || 40 || 51 || 0.78 || 1.1 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Luigi || NA || 13% || NA || 17% || NA || 120% || NA || 88% || 33 || 40 || 0.77 || 0.98 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Bowser || NA || 24% || NA || 32% || NA || 70% || NA || 35% || 49 || 68 || 1.21 || 1.28 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Peach (Frying Pan) || NA ||17% || NA || 23% || NA || 210% || NA || 130% || 39 || 45 || 0.44 || 0.57 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Peach (Golf club) || 13% ||17% || 17% || 22% || 290% || 165% || 220% || 135% || 50 || 54 || 0.36 || 0.48 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Peach (Tennis Racket) || NA || 12& || NA || 16% || NA || 350% || NA || 265% || 48 || 49 || 0.18 || 0.24 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Yoshi || NA || 16% || NA || 21% || NA || 130% || NA || 88% || 36 || 44 || 0.64 || 0.83 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Donkey Kong || NA || 20% || NA || 27% || NA || 107% || NA || 67% || 35 || 48 || 0.79 || 1.04 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Captain Falcon || NA || 20% || NA || 27% || NA || 95% || NA || 57% || 38 || 52 || 0.82 || 1.10 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Ganondorf || NA || 22% || NA || 30% || NA || 105% || NA || 64% || 45 || 59 || 0.76 || 1.01 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|17|| | | Falco || 14% || 17% || 16% || 23% || 160% || 120% || 105% || 78% || 41 || 50 || 0.65 || 0.86 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Fox || 12% || 15% || 16% || 20% || 200% || 135% || 155% || 103% || 24 || 32 || 0.68 || 0.88 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Ness || 18% || 24% || 24% || 32% || 160% || 110% || 110% || 75% || 48 || 59 || 0.95 || 1.00 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Popo || NA || 14% || NA || 19% || NA || 123% || NA || 85% || 40 || 48 || 0.64 || 0.84 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Ice Climbers || NA || 26% || NA || 36% || NA || 111% || NA || 69% || 49 || 62 || 0.64 || 0.84 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Kirby || 13% || 15% || 17% || 20% || 177% || 140% || 132% || 99% || 30 || 38 || 0.63 || 0.80 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Samus || NA || 14% || NA || 19% || NA || 130% || NA || 92% || 34 || 41 || 0.64 || 0.84 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Zelda || 14% || 16% || 19% || 22% || 112% || 109% || 88% || 85% || 45 || 52 || 0.61 || 0.77 | ||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| Sheik || 10% || 15% || 13% || 19% || 252% || 246% || 197% || 192% || 37 || 39 || 0.32 || 0.40 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Link (first hit) || 13% || 14% || 17%|| 19% || 188% || 169% || 141% || 121% || 31 || 37 || 0.52 || 0.67 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Link (second hit) || NA || 18% || NA || 18% || NA || 116% || NA || 116% || 38 || 38 || 0.77 || 0.77 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Young Link (first hit) || NA || 10% || NA || 13% || NA || Cannot KO || NA || Cannot KO || 23 || 23 || 0.00 || 0.00 | ||
|- | |||
| Young Link (second hit) || 9% || 12% || 9% || 12% || 172% || 130% || 172% || 130% || 35 || 35 || 0.64 | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Pichu || 6% || 14% || 9% || 20% || 123% || 112% || 90% || 82% || 71 || 75 || 0.43 || 0.54 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Pikachu || 18% || 21% || 24% || 28% || 137% || 99% || 94% || 63% || 38 || 51 || 0.81 || 1.06 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Jigglypuff || 13% || 17% || 17% || 23% || 166% || 103% || 123% || 68% || 30 || 41 || 0.85 || 1.13 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Mewtwo || 12% || 20% || 16% || 27% || 212% || 141% || 157% || 94% || 31 || 0.78 || 44 || 1.03 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Mr. Game & Watch || 6% || 18% || 8% || 24% || 300% || 113% || 230% || 78% || 47 || 0.76 || 0.99 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Marth || 14% || 20% || 19% || 27% || 171% || 96% || 122% || 59% || 63 || 73 || 0.59 || 0.87 | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | | Roy || 12% || 20% || 16% || 27% || 266% || 105% || 200% || 67% || 62 || 71 || 0.54 || 0.72 | ||
|- | |- | ||
|} | |} | ||
== | ==Chart (SSBB)== | ||
The Uncharged Other Hitboxes section shows the KO percentages of the other hitboxes of the forward smash while uncharged. Note that if a forward smash contains only one hitbox, this section will read NA. Uncharged Strongest Hitbox shows the KO percentage of the strongest hitbox of the forward smash while uncharged. The Fully Charged Other Hitboxes section shows the KO percentages of the other hitboxes of the forward smash while fully charged. The Fully Charged Strongest Hitboxes section shows the KO percentage of the strongest hitbox of the forward smash while fully charged. Uncharged Base Knockback shows the base knockback value for the strongest hitbox of the forward smash while uncharged, and Fully Charged Base Knockback shows this value for when the forward smash is fully charged. Uncharged Knockback Scaling shows the knockback scaling value of the strongest hitbox of the forward smash while uncharged, and Fully Charged Knockback Scaling shows this value for when the forward smash is fully charged. | |||
Note that base knockback is the knockback produce by the hitbox at 0%, while knockback scaling is the knockback increase per percentage for the hitbox. | |||
It should also be noted that if Lucario is behind by two [[stock]]s, his forward smash can KO even sooner than King Dedede's, though this chart doesn't factor in the stock modifier. Also note that only the primary hitbox is affected by charging in Zero Suit Samus' forward smash, even the sweetspot is not affected. So the main hitbox is the hitbox used in the strongest hitbox sections. | |||
=====Legend===== | =====Legend===== | ||
* | *General | ||
** | **'''bold''' = Indicates the KO percentage of the strongest hitbox in the forward smash. | ||
** | **/ = Indicates a different hitbox of the forward smash. | ||
**MH = Indicates that the character's forward smash consists of two or more hits. Link's forward smash isn't considered in this category because each of his two slashes have KO power and unless the opponent is at extremely low damage percentages, it's impossible to land both hits consecutively in the same smash. | |||
**w = [[sourspot]] | |||
** | **s = [[sweet spot]] | ||
**a = All hits of a multi-hit smash land. | |||
**u = Indicates forward smash is aimed up. Not listed unless it results in a difference of power. | |||
** | |||
** | |||
** | |||
= | |||
*Lucario | *Lucario | ||
**0% = Lucario's damage at 0% | **0% = Lucario's damage at 0% | ||
** | **91% = Lucario's damage at 91% | ||
** | **182% = Lucario's damage at 182% | ||
*Olimar | *Olimar | ||
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*Ice Climbers | *Ice Climbers | ||
**B = both Climbers land their smash | **B = both Climbers land their smash | ||
**S = only Popo lands his forward smash | |||
*Link | *Link | ||
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{| class="wikitable sortable" | {| class="wikitable sortable" | ||
|- | |- | ||
! Rank | ! Rank || Character || Uncharged Other Hitboxes || Uncharged Strongest Hitbox || Fully Charged Other Hitboxes || Fully Charged Strongest Hitbox || Uncharged Base Knockback || Fully Charged Base Knockback || Uncharged Knockback Scaling || Fully Charged Knockback Scaling | ||
| | |||
| | |||
|- | |- | ||
| | |1. || {{SSBB|King Dedede}} || 157% w || '''56%''' s || 106% w || '''25%''' s || '''3698''' || '''4989''' || '''55.76''' || '''76.42''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |2. || {{SSBB|Ike}} || 96% w || '''58%''' || 59% w || '''28%''' || '''3510''' || '''4719''' || '''57.17''' || '''78.21''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |3. || {{SSBB|Snake}} || NA || '''65%''' || NA || '''33%''' || '''4361''' || '''5086''' || '''34.30''' || '''46.93''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |4. || {{SSBB|Lucario}} 182% || 97% w || '''81%''' || 58% w || '''44%''' || '''2615''' || '''3780''' || '''54.06''' || '''73.98''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |5. || {{SSBB|Donkey Kong}} || 97% w / 89% || '''83%''' s || 59% w / 52% || '''47%''' s || '''2646''' || '''3683''' || '''51.49''' || '''70.37''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |6.(MH) || {{SSBB|Bowser}} || 121% w / 94% || '''84%''' a || 74% w / 57% || '''40%''' a || '''2946''' || '''4479''' || '''48.25''' || '''66.07''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |7. || {{SSBB|Ganondorf}} || 98% || '''85%''' s || 56% || '''46%''' s || '''2743''' || '''3933''' || '''51.42''' || '''70.48''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |8. || {{SSBB|Marth}} || 151% w || '''86%''' s || 103% w || '''50%''' s || '''3680''' || '''4315''' || '''35.00''' || '''47.72''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |9.(MH) || {{SSBB|Charizard}} || 95% || '''90%''' a || 57% || '''50%''' a || '''2880''' || '''3804''' || '''44.31''' || '''60.24''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |10. || {{SSBB|Luigi}} || 108% || '''92%''' u || 71% || '''57%''' u || '''2286''' || '''3057''' || '''54.58''' || '''73.95''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |11. || {{SSBB|Mr. Game & Watch}} || NA || '''102%''' || NA || '''63%''' || '''2996''' || '''3795''' || '''46.65''' || '''63.52''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |12. || {{SSBB|Ness}} || 146% w / 115% || '''102%''' s || 95% w / 69% || '''59%''' s || '''2938''' || '''3827''' || '''38.41''' || '''52.64''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |13. || {{SSBB|Lucas}} || NA || '''105%''' || NA || '''68%''' || '''2842''' || '''3505''' || '''37.18''' || '''48.20''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |14. || {{SSBB|Kirby}} || 154% w / 147% wu / 114% || '''112%''' u || 106% w / 102% wu / 74% || '''72%''' u || '''2523''' || '''3170''' || '''42.82''' || '''58.13''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |15. || {{SSBB|Mario}} || 131% / 121% / 120% s || '''112%''' su || 88% / 80% u / 77% s || '''71%''' su || '''2136''' || '''2870''' || '''42.84''' || '''58.34''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |16. || {{SSBB|Olimar}} P || 160% w / 128% || '''112%''' s || 110% w / 84% || '''70%''' s || '''2049''' || '''2824''' || '''45.22''' || '''61.58''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |17. || {{SSBB|Link}} 2nd || 141% || '''113%''' s || 93% || '''69%''' s || '''2317''' || '''3219''' || '''47.15''' || '''64.37''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |18. || Lucario 91% || 141% w || '''122%''' || 92% w || '''76%''' || '''2101''' || '''2786''' || '''42.23''' || '''57.42''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |19.(MH) || {{SSBB|Toon Link}} || 129% || '''116%''' a || 87% || '''72%''' a || '''2557''' || '''3368''' || '''37.78''' || '''50.97''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |20. || {{SSBB|Ivysaur}} || NA || '''119%''' || NA || '''77%''' || '''1930''' || '''2571''' || '''42.39''' || '''57.54''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |21. || {{SSBB|Captain Falcon}} || 125% || '''121%''' u || 80% || '''75%''' u || '''2072''' || '''2924''' || '''44.53''' || '''60.79''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |22. || {{SSBB|Jigglypuff}} || 209% w || '''121%''' || 147% w || '''79%''' || '''1660''' || '''2327''' || '''44.10''' || '''59.87''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |23. || {{SSBB|Wario}} || NA || '''124%''' || NA || '''78%''' || '''2180''' || '''2878''' || '''38.50''' || '''52.49''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |24.(MH) || {{SSBB|Zelda}} || 128% || '''124%''' a || 87% || '''82%''' a || '''2188''' || '''2782''' || '''37.43''' || '''50.48''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |25. || {{SSBB|Pikachu}} || 224% w / 141% || '''125%''' s || 157% w / 94% || '''78%''' s || '''3208''' || '''3809''' || '''31.43''' || '''42.91''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |26. || {{SSBB|Peach}} T || 235% || '''118%''' s || 167% || '''79%''' s || '''2354''' || '''2787''' || '''35.65''' || '''48.08''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |27. || {{SSBB|Falco}} || 229% w || '''126%''' || 165% w || '''84%''' || '''2359''' || '''2861''' || '''35.57''' || '''48.20''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |28.(MH) || {{SSBB|Pit}} || 135% || '''128%''' a || 92% || '''82%''' a || '''2309''' || '''2941''' || '''35.91''' || '''48.31''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |29. || {{SSBB|Ice Climbers}} || 162% wB / 145% B / 139% wS || '''128%''' S || 109% wB / 94% B / 96% wS || '''87%''' S || '''2086''' || '''2539''' || '''37.43''' || '''50.49''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |30. || {{SSBB|Sonic}} || NA || '''129%''' || NA || '''87%''' || '''2082''' || '''2571''' || '''37.28''' || '''50.40''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |31. || {{SSBB|Yoshi}} || NA || '''130%''' || NA || '''86%''' || '''1839''' || '''2435''' || '''39.39''' || '''53.47''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |32. || {{SSBB|Meta Knight}} || NA || '''130%''' || NA || '''87%''' || '''2029''' || '''2523''' || '''37.66''' || '''50.91''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |33. || {{SSBB|Samus}} || 147% || '''136%''' u || 101% || '''91%''' u || '''1783''' || '''2282''' || '''38.03''' || '''51.43''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |34. || {{SSBB|Squirtle}} || NA || '''138%''' || NA || '''93%''' || '''1718''' || '''2218''' || '''38.04''' || '''51.43''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |35. || {{SSBB|R.O.B.}} || 163% w / 151% || '''139%''' s || 114% w / 103% || '''94%''' s || '''1993''' || '''2467''' || '''36.13''' || '''48.86''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |36. || Link 1st || 149% w || '''138%''' || 101% w || '''92%''' || '''1900''' || '''2414''' || '''36.38''' || '''49.30''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |37. || {{SSBB|Fox}} || 179% w || '''142%''' || 126% w || '''95%''' || '''1490''' || '''2038''' || '''38.81''' || '''52.58''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |38. || Olimar R || 236% w / 180% || '''142''' s || 172% w / 127% || '''95%''' s || '''1490''' || '''2038''' || '''38.81''' || '''52.58''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
|39|| Olimar | |39. || Olimar B || 330% w / 196% || '''142''' s || 250% w / 139% || '''95%''' s || '''1490''' || '''2038''' || '''38.81''' || '''52.58''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |40.(MH) || {{SSBB|Diddy Kong}} || 148% || '''143''' a || 102% || '''95%''' a || '''2416''' || '''2955''' || '''32.08''' || '''43.27''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |41. || Peach P || NA || '''150%''' || NA || '''99%''' || '''1972''' || '''2526''' || '''32.37''' || '''44.08''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |42. || Peach G || NA || '''154%''' || NA || '''104%''' || '''2462''' || '''2861''' || '''28.30''' || '''38.84''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |43.(MH) || {{SSBB|Wolf}} || 165% || '''160%''' a || 117% || '''110%''' a || '''2056''' || '''2506''' || '''30.18''' || '''40.32''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |44.(MH) || {{SSBB|Sheik}} || 166% || '''161%''' a || 119% || '''112%''' a || '''2573''' || '''2904''' || '''26.08''' || '''34.69''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |45. || {{SSBB|Zero Suit Samus}} || 263% w / 187% / 155% s || '''176%''' || NA || '''127%''' || '''1780''' || '''2050''' || '''28.57''' || '''38.04''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |46. || Lucario 0% || 205% w || '''179%''' || 146% w || '''127%''' || '''1687''' || '''1988''' || '''29.15''' || '''39.11''' | ||
|- | |- | ||
| | |47. || Olimar W || 628% w / 389% || '''287%''' s || 505% w / 295% || '''211%''' s || '''983''' || '''1153''' || '''20.86''' || '''27.75''' | ||
| | |||
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|} | |} | ||
*All data is from research carried out by SmashWiki user [[User:Omega Tyrant/Contributions#Forward_smash_chart|Omega Tyrant]]. | |||
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==See | ==See Also== | ||
*[[ | *[[Side smash]] | ||
*[[Up smash | *[[Up smash chart]] | ||
*[[Down smash | *[[Down smash chart]] | ||
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