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Actually, it would all probably depend on his size in the last Metroid game before the next Smash Bros. game, or his size in the next one after, as he could always be added as an advertising character. Anyways, he really wasn't much bigger than Samus in the original Metroid, and in the melee opening he is maybe a head taller. Make him about the same size as Charizard, and you shouldn't really have a problem. As for moveset, up+B: he could do that fly up, then land thing he did in SSE. Over+B: Fly across the screen like he does in SSE. B: Fire breath or plasma or whatever. Down+B: Tail swipe like in the Metroid games and SSE. Final Smash: Omega Ridley OR he calls in a Space Pirate platoon to wipe out everybody. | Actually, it would all probably depend on his size in the last Metroid game before the next Smash Bros. game, or his size in the next one after, as he could always be added as an advertising character. Anyways, he really wasn't much bigger than Samus in the original Metroid, and in the melee opening he is maybe a head taller. Make him about the same size as Charizard, and you shouldn't really have a problem. As for moveset, up+B: he could do that fly up, then land thing he did in SSE. Over+B: Fly across the screen like he does in SSE. B: Fire breath or plasma or whatever. Down+B: Tail swipe like in the Metroid games and SSE. Final Smash: Omega Ridley OR he calls in a Space Pirate platoon to wipe out everybody. {{unsigned|98.92.63.146}} | ||
Size doesn't matter much he could be '''VERY''' slow on ground but be faster in the air, like Jiggly. He doesn't have to be a heavy guy, just takes up some space. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 01:21, January 26, 2010 (UTC) | Size doesn't matter much he could be '''VERY''' slow on ground but be faster in the air, like Jiggly. He doesn't have to be a heavy guy, just takes up some space. [[Special:Contributions/98.117.158.220|98.117.158.220]] 01:21, January 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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:As a note, Ridly could be about 1.5 times as tall as Bowser, the same height as in Metroid for the NES. His normal walk, of course, would be '''very''' slow. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 18:52, July 25, 2010 (UTC) | :As a note, Ridly could be about 1.5 times as tall as Bowser, the same height as in Metroid for the NES. His normal walk, of course, would be '''very''' slow. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 18:52, July 25, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Have YOU played it? It was King Boo in a costume. Bowser's actual size is smaller. | ::Have YOU played it? It was King Boo in a costume. Bowser's actual size is smaller. {{unsigned|Megatron1}} | ||
:::Master Hand wasn't intended to be played as. Any character can be played as through hacks.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 06:14, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | :::Master Hand wasn't intended to be played as. Any character can be played as through hacks.--<span style="font-family:Forte">[[User:Megatron1|<span style="color:maroon">Mega</span>]][[User talk:Megatron1|<span style="color:silver">Tron1</span>]][[User:Megatron1/Laughology|<span style="color:blue">XD</span>]]</span>[[File:Decepticon.png|20px|:p]] 06:14, July 26, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:::First of all, no, it wasn't Boo in a costume, it was Boo posessing an undead Bowser. Second of all, that was a comment I made months ago. I could have been blocked back then, yet still validly run for adminship now | :::First of all, no, it wasn't Boo in a costume, it was Boo posessing an undead Bowser. Second of all, that was a comment I made months ago. I could have been blocked back then, yet still validly run for adminship now. <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:28, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
== Lost to King Dedede == | == Lost to King Dedede == | ||
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:How? <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:26, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | :How? <choose><option><span style="color:red;">[[User:Mr. Anon|Mr.]]</span> <span style="color:green;">[[User talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</span> <span style="color:blue;">[[Special:Contributions/Mr. Anon|teh awsome]]</span></option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Anon]]</option><option>[[User:Mr. Anon|Sir]] [[User Talk:Mr. Anon|Anon]] [[Special: Contributions/Mr. Anon| the great]]</option></choose> 04:26, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:Your reasons for Ridley being excluded from the playable cast are poor and highly unlikely. Whenever you read something, you have to considered the source. Unless what you read was about something Sakurai said that's from a reliable source, chances are it's not true. As for King Dedede being the reason that's Ridley is not playable is quite ridiculous. Firstly, three characters is far from over representing a series. Secondly, the main reason Dedede was supposedly not playable in the first two games was due to time and/or memory constraints. Since Dedede was supposed to be planned since the first game, King Dedede was likely one of the first newcomers planned, which reduces the likelihood of the situation you presented where the developers had only enough time to only choose between Dedede and Ridley. The likely reason Ridley is not playable is because the developers felt he would be more suitable as a SSE boss, not because King Dedede is playable. As for you saying if Ridley was playable that Meta Knight would be dominated by him is just stupid speculation. There is no way to know how good a nonplayable character would have been and saying Ridley would have made Meta Knight not a great character is just ridiculous. Considering how good Meta Knight is, Ridley would either have to be a god tier character, which would just cause even more problems than Meta Knight has had, or the theoretical playable Ridley would have to have a matchup around 75:25 or better against Meta Knight while having a reasonable matchup against the majority of the remaining characters, which would be nearly impossible to do. For Ridley to dominate Meta Knight, the former would almost always have to be the case, which would cause people to not want him to be playable. Now then, if Ridley was god tier and dominated Meta Knight, do you think Meta Knight would still be the character that people complained about being too good? Simply no, Ridley would be the one attracting the complaints of being too good and be the one that people would call to be banned. After such a theoretical ban on Ridley, then Meta Knight could attract the attention he has now. As such, saying Ridley should be playable since he would "dominate" Meta Knight is a very poor reason as if such was true, Meta Knight wouldn't be the character you would be complaining about being too good (barring the near impossibility that Ridley somehow hard countered Meta Knight while keeping a reasonable matchup against the majority of the remaining cast). Also, you saying Sheik was the reason Young Link wasn't in Brawl is just plain ridiculous (um, do you know who Toon Link is?). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:29, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | :Your reasons for Ridley being excluded from the playable cast are poor and highly unlikely. Whenever you read something, you have to considered the source. Unless what you read was about something Sakurai said that's from a reliable source, chances are it's not true. As for King Dedede being the reason that's Ridley is not playable is quite ridiculous. Firstly, three characters is far from over representing a series. Secondly, the main reason Dedede was supposedly not playable in the first two games was due to time and/or memory constraints. Since Dedede was supposed to be planned since the first game, King Dedede was likely one of the first newcomers planned, which reduces the likelihood of the situation you presented where the developers had only enough time to only choose between Dedede and Ridley. The likely reason Ridley is not playable is because the developers felt he would be more suitable as a SSE boss, not because King Dedede is playable. As for you saying if Ridley was playable that Meta Knight would be dominated by him is just stupid speculation. There is no way to know how good a nonplayable character would have been and saying Ridley would have made Meta Knight not a great character is just ridiculous. Considering how good Meta Knight is, Ridley would either have to be a god tier character, which would just cause even more problems than Meta Knight has had, or the theoretical playable Ridley would have to have a matchup around 75:25 or better against Meta Knight while having a reasonable matchup against the majority of the remaining characters, which would be nearly impossible to do. For Ridley to dominate Meta Knight, the former would almost always have to be the case, which would cause people to not want him to be playable. Now then, if Ridley was god tier and dominated Meta Knight, do you think Meta Knight would still be the character that people complained about being too good? Simply no, Ridley would be the one attracting the complaints of being too good and be the one that people would call to be banned. After such a theoretical ban on Ridley, then Meta Knight could attract the attention he has now. As such, saying Ridley should be playable since he would "dominate" Meta Knight is a very poor reason as if such was true, Meta Knight wouldn't be the character you would be complaining about being too good (barring the near impossibility that Ridley somehow hard countered Meta Knight while keeping a reasonable matchup against the majority of the remaining cast). Also, you saying Sheik was the reason Young Link wasn't in Brawl is just plain ridiculous (um, do you know who Toon Link is?). <span style="font-family:Edwardian Script ITC; font-size:12pt">[[User:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Omega</span>]] [[User talk:Omega Tyrant|<span style="color:forestgreen">Tyrant</span>]]</span> [[Image: TyranitarMS.png|25px ]] 04:29, July 28, 2010 (UTC) | ||